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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

860.0. "How have you changed?" by VITAL::KEEFE (Bill Keefe - 223-1837 - MLO21-4) Thu Sep 15 1988 13:01

    		< or, who do you want to be when you grow up? >
    
    This note was prompted by a digression that started in note 16, the       
    "Who Are You" note. The initial intent is to discuss how or why you think 
     you've changed as a result of reading this notefile.       
                  
            - Bill Keefe (moderator)                               
                  
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860.1moved by moderatorVITAL::KEEFEBill Keefe - 223-1837 - MLO21-4Thu Sep 15 1988 13:0220
CLUE::PAINTER "Wonders never cease."                 16 lines  13-SEP-1988 17:56
                    -< Jeff Who from Whoville...who else? >-
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    Yes, Jeff, I did read through to the end!
    
    One thing that is missing I think is that we've all changed since
    we've started reading and participating here.  Well, at least I
    have.  I'm nowhere _near_ the person I was when I first wrote my
    intro note.  Back then I thought I actually knew something.
    
    Now I'm finding that I know � of 1% of less than nothing.  (;^)
    
    This is growth?!?!?  This is a life!?!?!  Eek!
    
    Anyway, back to the second paragraph - suggestions on how to 
    rectify this?
    
    Cindy
860.2moved by moderatorVITAL::KEEFEBill Keefe - 223-1837 - MLO21-4Thu Sep 15 1988 13:0212
ATLAST::LACKEY "Reciprocity is *not* a divine law."   8 lines  14-SEP-1988 22:42
                         -< That's *Mr.* Who to you! >-
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>   Anyway, back to the second paragraph - suggestions on how to 
>   rectify this?
    
Cindy,

Rectify what?  I'm not sure I understand what you are asking?

Jeff (made it through the rapture without a scratch...)
860.3moved by moderatorVITAL::KEEFEBill Keefe - 223-1837 - MLO21-4Thu Sep 15 1988 13:0312
BSS::VANFLEET "6 Impossible Things Before Breakfast"  8 lines  15-SEP-1988 11:16
                             -< Carried Away.... >-
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Cindy,
    
    How about a Who Are You Now update file.  Or even a Who Do
    You Want To Be...Or a Who Do You Wish You Were....OR...
    
    Help!!! Somebody stop me....
    
    Nanci
860.4I would like to be even more of who/what...I am...WRO8A::WARDFRGoing HOME--as an AdventurerThu Sep 15 1988 13:2114
       Yes, I have changed...and even as a result of my activities in
    DEJAVU.  Not only have I improved my typing skills and made some
    new friends, but now I even have something to do while I am at DEC.
    :-)
    
       Seriously, ceriusly, this has been a very important addition
    to my life...many have contributed to both my understanding of
    the reality (the world I live in) in which I exist at the present
    and to an understanding of myself.  I am still very grateful for
    all the participants who have given whatever piece of themselves
    that they have offered.
    
    Frederick
    
860.5ClarificationCLUE::PAINTERWonders never cease.Thu Sep 15 1988 13:2519
    Yes! ...to .-1.
                                                              
    This note reserved for who we are _now_ as opposed to who we were 
    when we first signed in.
    
    Someone offline asked me if this was the 'New and Improved' me -
    someone who'd been away from me for quite some time and is now back
    in my life again and just getting to know the new me as I am today 
    as opposed to thinking I'm still the person I was yesterday and 
    assuming certain things about me based on past beliefs, attitudes, 
    experiences, etc.  (This has to be the longest sentence I've ever
    written...forgive errors please, my mind/body connection isn't all
    together today.)
    
    So, the New and Improved You - who are You NOW and how are you
    different from your original intro. note?
    
    Cindy
860.6It means to me more than I can say...JACOB::STANLEYI need a miracle every day...Thu Sep 15 1988 14:018
My life has changed dramatically since my association with this file.  I
have hungered for information about life/reality for as long as I can remember.
Just about every aspect of being has been affected in some way or another
from reading, writing and meeting people here.  I will always cherish this
file.  I am grateful to work for DEC where such freedom and a medium of
communication such as this exist.

		Dave
860.7WHY I AM NOT BOUNCING OFF THE WALLSUSACSB::OPERATOR_CBDO WHAT THOU WILTFri Sep 16 1988 06:2328
    
    My life is alot more free than before. I was rather scattered and
    now find it rather easy to focus on whatever it is I am doing at
    any given time. Putting 100% into every task and going for it with
    a LUST!
    
    Notes, and this file in particular, is fantastic for me. I work
    nights, and all by myself (alone) for 4 of the 6 nights. Without
    something to keep my brain active I am sure I would have had it
    with the solitude some time ago. I only wish people wouldn't take
    my sarcastic cynicism, my funny humor, and my repetitive redundancy
    so soberly and seriously at times.
    
    I try to recall past experiances and relate them to others, compare
    emotions, imagin how I would react to experiances, learn new
    concepts, and this file pushes me to...um....uh...REMEMBER(!) 
    things I learned when younger and push me to learn more.
    
    You ALL are fantastic people, all with very valid personal truths.
    	Thank you for sharing them!             
    
       I guess the main thing I have found is that by sharing
    		ones self with others, one finds more
    			of himself to give.                               
    Thanx    ;-)
    
     Craig 
           
860.8Another changlingEUROPE::LUTZThe broken clown ... back on stageFri Sep 16 1988 08:2217
    Ref. .5 (Cindy)
    
    *New* yes, *improved* hopefully - and anyway who's to judge - just
    wondering ;-)
    
    As to change - am fairly new to this conference - apart from that
    I am constantly changing and will let you all know, once I get there,
    wherever *there* is. Meanwhile, I'm simply learning and trying to
    improve my overall knowledge like (probably) most of us.
    
    Have a wonderful weekend everybody and - to the serious DEJAVUERS
    planning to go to the 1-OCT-88 DEJAVU party in Geneva (Switzerland),
    please read my input under that topic.
    
    Esther_feeling_like_clowning_about_for_the_rest_of_the_day (though
    don't remember it being fullmoon, must be another cause then - anybody
    got an explanation? <8^))
860.9friendsUSAT05::KASPERYou&#039;ll see it when you believe it.Fri Sep 16 1988 16:1710
This is one of those things that one finds it hard to put into words.
What I've received from each and every one of you can't really be
described other than to say it's been wonderful and helpful.  We're
all students and all teachers at the same time and this is a great place
to share a bit of ourselves with others, whoever and wherever they are.

One hellavua telecommunity...

Thanks,
Terry
860.10Thanks...You'all Amaze Me!EXIT26::SAARINENSun Sep 18 1988 16:1836
   
    
    
    When I first came to Digital, I came straight out of a New Age                        
    Community in Tennessee which were Total vegetarian-radical-lefist-
    crazy-mystical-Longhaired-Rock-and-Roll-communal-Zenned-out-humanitarian-
    -spiritual-save-the-world-Love-your-brother-and-sisters-good-vibes-
    peace-loving-pacifists.... 
    
    So as I entered the corporate world of DEC, straight out of the middle
    kingdom of Hippiedom, I was at a loss trying to figure out
    how I fit in with the culture at Digital, looking for people who
    might share some of my 60's idealism, with 80's putting into reality
    practicality.
    
    DEJAVU has been a happy home for me, getting to know some wonderful
    people through this Notes File. Being a read only person for quite
    awhile, I started to see that the influences of the spiritual world,
    the occult, spiritual practices and beliefs, and personal experiences
    of the membership had awakened me to the fact that I was not alone
    here in this huge company. People did indeed work for large Computer
    Companies who were in touch with the spiritual. Considering where
    I was comming from, this was a realization of big significance. ;-)
    
    There are no formula's, or set standards, on the spiritual journey.
    I started to see by reading Dejavu, that the world of the spirit
    was even bigger then I had imagined and inhabited places that years
    ago I thought it would never touch.
                 
    Reading Dejavu has made me a much happier person, better informed
    and amazed that the technology of the Notes File can send such
    real positive energy via a terminal screen. 
    
    Thank you all.
    -Arthur
                                
860.12"The Farm"EXIT26::SAARINENMon Sep 19 1988 11:109
    RE: .11
    
    Paul,
    
    Yes Stephen Gaskin, The Farm in Summertown, Tennessee was the community
    I lived in for 4 years before comming to Digital. Had you ever visited
    down there before?
    
    -Arthur
860.13GENRAL::DANIELstill hereFri Sep 23 1988 17:4232
Since I started writing in this file (October marks one year), here is how I 
have changed.

I lost parts of myself.  Then, I gained new parts.

	- I replaced self-doubt with self-confidence.
	- I developed an ego that I could begin transcending.
	- I replaced self-abhorrance with self-love.
	- I developed my mind so that it would not be lost to
	  someone else again.
	- I developed my meditations; used some new techniques
	  (new to me); learned from them.
	- I replaced my silence with my expression.
	- I learned that I can effectively disagree if I 
	  remember a few pointers; one of which is to
	  watch those emotions; if they're too hot, chances
	  are I need to review the issue more closely, within.
	- I learned something about responsibility and gave
	  up the safety (and non-progress) of inaction.
	- I learned the meaning of "Life is a process, not a
	  product."  I'd heard it; I'd agreed with it; but
	  learning it has been an entirely new and wonderful
	  experience that has meant I get to live more in
	  the Present than ever before.
	- I gained weight (Well it couldn't all be good!) and
	  now would like to lose it again and am working on
	  it; have started...sigh!
	- I got more patient and that meant I got to let go
	  of some anxieties.

Love and Light
Meredith (who's been working on this reply for two weeks)
860.14No end in sightORION::HERBERTNothing lasts foreverSat Sep 24 1988 19:1417
    This is a good note -- it's nice reading these things about people.
    
    I haven't been in this file much lately, but I can share what I
    experienced at the time I read it a lot.
    
    I discovered that there were perhaps an infinite number of ways
    to view the Universe and interact with it.  Reading things in
    this file blew the doors off a great many of my limits and blocks 
    from the past.
    
    I began to consider everything...
      question everything...
        and came up with no answers.
    
    And I feel more alive than ever.  The adventure continues...
    
    Jerri
860.15DECWET::MITCHELLThe Cosmic AnchovyThu Sep 29 1988 18:334
    I gained 12 pounds.
    
    
    John M.
860.16Please be more precise!IJSAPL::ELSENAARThey&#039;ll lift you up in their handsFri Sep 30 1988 04:306
RE -1
>    I gained 12 pounds.

Sterling?
:-)
Arie
860.17Not just a node name.POBOX::CROWEI led the pigeons to the flag..Fri Sep 30 1988 15:5213
    This conference and its noters (especially its noters!) have had
    a variety of efects for me.
    
    First is a combination of amazement/awe/thankfulness to the noters
    who send so much concern and care to people though they only be
    node names in `the vast Ethernet of the galaxy'!!
    
    I approach life now with a more openand accepting attitude.  Not
    to mention finding others to accept my own.  I've learned, and that
    is the ultimate challenge.
    
    Tracy_who_used_to_just_be_a_node_name_but_now_feels_like_she's_in_a_
    circle_of_friends