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826.1 | More Love.... | BSS::VANFLEET | | Mon Aug 15 1988 14:39 | 9 |
| How about:
Love is the opening door,
Love is what we came here for,
No one could offer you more,
Do you know what I mean?
Have your eyes really seen?
Nanci
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826.2 | Okay... | MOSAIC::R_BROWN | | Mon Aug 15 1988 15:06 | 17 |
|
Love is crazy, love is blue
Love is hazy, but it's true
The things that Love drives us to do
Can shake this world's core through and through
Let great minds reach into the sky
Let worlds pass on, eons go by
One thing won't change, by God Above!
Some people will die in the name of Love!
-By Robert Brown III
July, 1976
________________________________________________
Maybe a little immature, but what the heck: I was only 18!
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826.3 | In His Image | PNEUMA::SHEPARD | | Mon Aug 15 1988 15:28 | 10 |
| Nancy & Cindy:
Love is what we are within
Beyond the pain of superflous attarctions
Love is the voice of the One
Speaking Heart to heart
and moving us to pass it on.
Ray Shepard
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826.4 | | WITNES::DONAHUE | | Mon Aug 15 1988 16:24 | 8 |
| How about SWEET LOVE by Anita Baker.
Sweet Love .....
Hear me calling out your name .....
Susan
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826.5 | short and to the point | TFH::TIRONE | | Mon Aug 15 1988 16:37 | 7 |
| This may or may not fit into how youngster think today but i have
always felt that it has said more on life and love than any song.
" COME GROW OLD WITH ME.THE BEST IS YET TO BE ."
by ?
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826.6 | "Love" defined | FEISTY::RAMSAY | | Mon Aug 15 1988 17:01 | 6 |
| "Love" defined by M. Scott Peck, M.D.: The will to extend one's
self for the purpose of nuturing one's own or another's spiritual
growth. (from The Road Less Traveled, p. 81)
This definition is especially apropos to DEJAVU!
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826.7 | a feeling this strong | LEDS::BATES | | Mon Aug 15 1988 17:07 | 20 |
|
I've often felt that love eluded description, that to define love
was somehow to limit it, in much the same way that naming God is
ultimately impossible...
Then I recently heard Tracy Chapman's song "For You", which says
There're no words to say
No words to convey
The feeling inside I have for you
Deep in my heart
Safe from the guards
Of intellect and reason
Leaving me at a loss
For words to express my feelings
Deep in my heart
...gloria
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826.8 | The greatest love | NRADM::BERNIER | REAPING THE HARVEST | Mon Aug 15 1988 17:30 | 6 |
|
"No greater love hath a man than to lay down his life for his friends."
- Jesus, the Son of God.
Gil
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826.9 | You might as well make it Love... | BSS::VANFLEET | | Mon Aug 15 1988 18:45 | 25 |
| Cindy,
This is fun!!!!
This one's a bit sappy, but here goes....
Don't go thinkin' that you don't leave a trace.
Your print's in the sand and your vibe's in space.
As long as you're leavin' something to the race
You might as well make it Love.
You might as well make it Love.
So...make it a song, make it a smile
Make it make someone's day.
Make it worthwhile.
Make it a laugh, make it a prayer,
Make it on the up and up,
Shine like a buttercup,
Might as well make it Love,
You might as well make it love.
(The singing group at my church sang this one last Wednesday
and I've been humming it ever since.)
Nanci
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826.10 | "found in Old Saint Paul's ..." | CHGV04::ORZECH | Alvin Orzechowski @ACI | Mon Aug 15 1988 19:41 | 7 |
| ..Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of
all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as
the grass.
from "Desiderata" by Max Ehrmann
Alvin
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826.11 | What Paul had to say... | USAT05::KASPER | Life is like a beanstalk, isn't it... | Mon Aug 15 1988 22:13 | 30 |
| I'm not one to quote the bible much, but I heard this quoted in the movie
'The Mission' (great movie) and it fits, so...
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love,
I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers,
and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith,
so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give
away all I have, and deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I
gain nothing.
Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; it is
not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not
irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in
the right. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all
things, endures all things.
Love never ends; as for prohecies, they will pass away; as for
tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For
our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy imperfect; but when the
perfect comes the imperfect will pass away. When I was a child, I
spoke as a child, I thought as a child, I reasoned like a child;
when I became a man, I gave up my childish ways. For now we see in
a mirror dimley, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I
shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood. So
faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these
is love.
I Corinthians 13
Terry
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826.12 | And from John... | DIXIE1::EHRHARDT | Caminante, no hay camino... | Mon Aug 15 1988 23:29 | 18 |
| re:.-1
I was just now typing that in, Terry (only King Jame's style).
My terminal failed! Guess that means you really wanted to hear
something else... Ditto on Bible quoting but sometimes it says it
just right.
"He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."
"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear"
I John 4 (KJV)
"Charity never faileth"
- A KJV reiteration of a segment of .-1
Saludos.
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826.13 | LOVE IS THE LAW, LOVE UNDER WILL | USACSB::OPERATOR_CB | | Tue Aug 16 1988 03:34 | 20 |
|
No other Law but love I know,
By naught but love may I be known,
And all that liveth is my own,
From me they come, to me they go.
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"Blessed are they who have the gift of making friends,
for it is one of God's best gifts, it involves many
things but above all, The power of going out of one's
self, and appreciating whatever is noble and loving
in another."
-Thomas Hughes-
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Craig
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826.14 | Beginning | LEZAH::BOBBITT | invictus maneo | Tue Aug 16 1988 10:02 | 18 |
| Beginning
Smile for me
Sweet echo in my heart
Giver of joy
Bring me back to myself.
Reflection of truth
Give me your hand
Show me your heart.
Hearth of love's warmth
Who makes my time
So much more well spent
Smile for me
And slay my sorrows
With the light in your tender eyes
jody bobbitt - 9/21/83
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826.15 | ? | FRSBEE::HIGGINS | What am I doing? | Tue Aug 16 1988 12:16 | 4 |
| Love is a four letter word.
Mark
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826.16 | | MEMIT1::SLAVIN | | Tue Aug 16 1988 13:42 | 11 |
| From a song heard at a wedding:
Give yourself to love
If love is what you're after.
Open up yourself to
The tears and laughter.
And just give yourself to love,
Give yourself to love.
Love,
Lois
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826.17 | | MEMIT1::SLAVIN | | Tue Aug 16 1988 13:43 | 7 |
| And from Whitney Houston....
Learning to love yourself is the greatest love of all....
Love and Light,
Lois
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826.18 | Love... | ATSE::FLAHERTY | Just imagine it. | Tue Aug 16 1988 14:05 | 12 |
| Love is the burning point of life, and since all life is
sorrowful, so is love. The stronger the love, the more the
pain.
Joseph Campbell
The Power of Myth
Only through love do we grow,
Ro
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826.19 | My Amateurish Three | TUNER::VINDICI | It's the Journey, Not the Destination | Tue Aug 16 1988 14:24 | 63 |
| From deep within the feeling lies,
A smile to my lips,
A tear to my eye.
How long ago, if ever,
Did I feel this way?
Pure contentment.
Ecstasy.
Respect and total trust.
Love evolving ever deeper.
*********
The tide is turning;
The sun is burning;
And we bask in the harmony
Of energy,
As if flow and glows
And lights up the world.
The grains of sand
Kissed by ocean's spray,
Have a love affair
With the sunlit day.
The spirit is soaring
As temperatures rise;
The two become one
in the joining of eyes,
Melding of body, of soul
and of mind,
A natural high of the
ultimate kind.
*********
Something special's happening
Between us two, my love.
The closeness grows each passing day
Lifting us above
Life's trials and tribulations,
That pain of past may heal;
Perspective's soothing secret,
To us it does reveal.
The feeling swiftly deepens,
Awesomely it stuns;
One thinks it can't go deeper,
Yet deeper it becomes.
Who are you and who am I
To connect thus magically?
Past souls who once upon a time
Embraced eternally?
The joy you've added to my life
In words cannot be told;
It can only be experienced
Raw metal turned to gold.
******
Helaine
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826.20 | My Favorite Classic | TUNER::VINDICI | It's the Journey, Not the Destination | Tue Aug 16 1988 14:31 | 17 |
| Some say love it is a river that drowns the tender weed;
Some say love it is a razor that leaves your soul to bleed;
Some say love it is a hunger, an endless aching need;
I say love it is a flower, and you its only seed.
It's the heart that fears the breaking that never learns to dance;
It's the dream afraid of waking that never takes the chance;
It's the one who won't be taken who cannot seem to give;
And the sould afraid of dying that never learns to live.
When the night has been too lonely and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong;
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed that with the sun's love in the spring becomes the
rose.
Helaine
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826.21 | That mindless, mindful rock and roll starship... | GLDOA::WETHERINGTON | | Tue Aug 16 1988 16:02 | 18 |
| Thank you for making my day with those last two, Helaine.
Here's one.
*************************************************************
Oh, I've been so many places, I've seen so much
I know that love is the answer.
It keeps holding this world together
Ain't nothin' better
Nothin's better
And all the answers to our prayers
Are just the same everywhere
Nothing ever breaks up a heart
Love's a game
Ain't it a shame, now?
Jefferson Starship, "Miracles"
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826.22 | More words on love | LEDS::BATES | | Tue Aug 16 1988 16:35 | 16 |
|
Earlier, I asked a newly popular singer-songwriter to help me to
define love. Then I remembered something I wrote a year or so ago
in another notesfile -
Beyond the word LOVE there is this:
The knowledge of connection
The soul's awareness of itself extended
The union of the spirit in the flesh
The promise of creation manifest
The joyous voyage to the infinite.
Gloria Bates
May 1987
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826.23 | | GENRAL::DANIEL | still here | Tue Aug 16 1988 17:10 | 7 |
| Oooooooooooooh .14, you wrote that yourself!?! wow...thanks!
"Love is the flowers...
You gotta let it
You gotta let it grow."
(John Lennon, "Mind Games")
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826.24 | And around and around..... | CLUE::PAINTER | Feelin' happy..... | Tue Aug 16 1988 17:55 | 4 |
|
Love makes the world go around.
Cindy
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826.25 | A little love from the theatre | 26925::WITHERS | We're anarchon-syndicalist commune | Tue Aug 16 1988 18:51 | 14 |
| From the Broadway musical _Pippin_ (S. S., 1972(3?)) ...
[Song: "LOVE SONG"]
...
They say the whole is greator
then the sum of the parts its made of..
Well, if it's true of anything
it's true of love.
...
(just adding my two lines)
- George
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826.26 | | SNOC01::MYNOTT | | Tue Aug 16 1988 20:27 | 14 |
| Neil Diamond
(I cannot remember the correct words, so somebody please correct
me).
from Play Me
You are the sun, I am the moon, play me,
and the whole song has always made me feel gooey!!
...dale
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826.27 | Works for me | DIXIE1::EHRHARDT | Caminante, no hay camino... | Wed Aug 17 1988 03:05 | 31 |
| (.-1) I think it's:
"You are the sun, I am the moon,
You are the song, I am the tune,
play me."
or vice-versa. But you wanna talk gooey, here's a cut of a song
that does it for me:
I want--in your open hands--to seek my way
and that you feel like a woman only with me,
Today I want you,
today I want you!
I want to quench on your lips the thirst of my soul
and discover love together each morning.
Today I want you,
today I want you!
[original segment (for meter and rhyme) - M. Gallardo]
Quiero en tus manos abiertas buscar mi camino
y que te sientas mujer solamente conmigo,
�Hoy tengo ganas de t�,
hoy tengo ganas de t�!
Quiero apagar en tus labios la sed de mi alma
y descubrir el amor juntos cada ma�ana,
�Hoy tengo ganas de t�,
hoy tengo ganas de t�!
jge
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826.28 | A favorite of mine - brings a happy tear..... | SCOPE::PAINTER | Feelin' happy..... | Wed Aug 17 1988 11:50 | 22 |
|
The Wedding Song (There Is Love)
He is now to be among you at the calling of your hearts,
Rest assured this troubador is acting on His part.
The union of your spirits here has caused Him to remain,
For whenever two or more of you are gathered in His name
There is Love, there is Love.
Well a man shall leave his mother and a woman leave her home
They shall travel on to where the two shall be as one.
As it was in the beginning is now and 'til the end,
Woman draws her life from man and gives it back again
And there is Love, there is Love.
Well, then what's to be the reason for becoming man and wife?
Is it love that brings you here, or love that brings you life?
For if loving is the answer, then who's the giving for?
Do you believe in something that you've never seen before?
Oh there's love, oh there's love.
Sung by Paul (of Peter, Paul and Mary)
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826.29 | moved by moderator | VITAL::KEEFE | Bill Keefe - 223-1837 - MLO21-4 | Wed Aug 17 1988 12:13 | 46 |
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Note 830.0 Perhaps Love.... No replies
UBOHUB::HOOD_S 41 lines 17-AUG-1988 09:15
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A favourite I have on record sung by an unusual combination of
Placido Domingo and John Denver:
"Perhaps Love"
Perhaps love is like a resting place,
A shelter from the storm,
It invites you to come closer,
It wants to show you more,
And even if you lose yourself and don't know what to do,
The memory of love will see you through.
Oh like a blind man who can see or sawdust strong as steel,
Or some way of looking, or some way to feel,
And some say love is holding on and some say that is wrong,
And some say love is everything, and some say they don't know....
Perhaps love is like the ocean,
Full of conflict, full of pain,
Like a fire when it's cold outside,
An umbrella when it rains,
If I could live forever, and all my dreams come true,
My memories of love will be of you.
And on the other side of the record is "Annies Song" which
I'm sure no-one needs the words to, but hopefully we have
all had someone in our lives we could have sung it to.
"The mountains may crumble into the sea, but there will
still be you and me" Led Zep.
Sandy.
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826.30 | moved by moderator | VITAL::KEEFE | Bill Keefe - 223-1837 - MLO21-4 | Wed Aug 17 1988 12:14 | 29 |
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Note 831.0 Love by Louis No replies
UBOHUB::HOOD_S 24 lines 17-AUG-1988 09:29
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Sorry - just remembered a beautiful song:
"What a Wonderful World" - Louis Armstrong
I see trees of green,
Clouds of white,
Bright blessed day,
The dark sacred night,
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
I hear babies cry,
I watch them grow,
They'll learn much more,
Than I'll ever know,
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
The colours of the rainbow so pretty in the sky,
The smiles on all the faces of people passing by,
I see friends shaking hands saying "How do you do"
They're really saying "I love you"
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826.31 | To get love you must first give it. | COMET::LAFOREST | | Wed Aug 17 1988 15:49 | 8 |
| The one beautiful thing about love is that it is impossible to give
away. If you give your love it always comes back to you, multiplied
a thousand time over!
Also, love, like respect, can never be demanded. It must be EARNED.
Ray
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826.32 | more Love | ARCHER::CANCRO | | Wed Aug 17 1988 21:01 | 9 |
|
2 lines from an otherwise dull song, that always struck me--
"All your love can't be mine...
What is mine - I will find."
Kim
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826.33 | Love is Nature's psychotherapy. | ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI | Our common crisis | Thu Aug 18 1988 09:53 | 2 |
|
Joe Jas
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826.34 | Lyrics | SCOPE::PAINTER | Feelin' happy..... | Thu Aug 18 1988 12:29 | 28 |
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Whenever I Call You Friend
Whenever I call you friend, I begin to think I understand
Anywhere at all, you and I have always been, forever and ever.
I see myself within your eyes and that's all I need to show you why
Everything I do always brings me home to you, forever and ever.
Now I know my life is giving me more than memories
Day by day, we can see
In every moment there's a reason to carry on.
Sweet love showing us a heavenly light.
I've never seen such a beautiful sight.
Sweet love growing on us every night.
I know forever we'll keep doing it right.
Whenever I call you friend I believe I've come to understand
Anywhere at all you and I were meant to be, forever and ever.
I think about the times to come knowing I will be the lucky one.
If ever our love will last, I always want to call you friend.
[Refrain]
Sweet Love, shining in my life.
Sweet Love, a bright star in my life.
- Sung by Kenny Loggins and Melissa Manchester
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826.35 | oops | USAT05::KASPER | Life is like a beanstalk, isn't it... | Thu Aug 18 1988 14:14 | 8 |
| re: .34
> Sung by Kenny Loggins and Melissa Manchester
Kenny Loggins and Stevie Nicks. Don't want to upset her Dejavu
fans.
Terry
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826.36 | � oops | SCOPE::PAINTER | Feelin' happy..... | Thu Aug 18 1988 16:22 | 13 |
| (RE.-1 Kasper)
Terry,
We're both half right. Melissa Manchester sings it with Kenny Loggins
on her 'Greatest Hits' album (which is a much different rendition
then the popular version on the Kenny Loggins album).
I _thought_ it was Stevie Nicks singing with him on the popular
version, however I looked for her name and it wasn't there. Thanks
for the clarification.
Cindy
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826.37 | ...ultimate love | BIGALO::SULLIVAN_SUZ | | Fri Aug 19 1988 16:02 | 25 |
| "Footprints"
One night a man had a dream. He dreamed he was walking along the
beach with the Lord. Across the sky flashed scenes from his life.
For each scene, he noticed two sets of footprints in the sand;
one belonged to him, and the other to the Lord.
When the last scene of his life flashed before him, he looked back
at the footprints in the sand. He noticed that many times along
the path of his life there was only one set of footprints. He also
noticed that it happened at the very lowest and saddest times of
his life.
This really bothered him and he questioned the Lord about it. "Lord,
you said that once I decided to follow you, you'd walk with me all
the way. But I have noticed that during the most troublesom times
in my life, there is only one set of footprints. I don't understand
why when I needed you most you would leave me."
The Lord replied, "My precious, precious child, I love you and I
would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering,
when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried
you."
Suz
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826.38 | it made *MY* day | PHILEM::MATTHEWS | i mite b blonde but i'm not stupid | Fri Aug 19 1988 16:29 | 7 |
| thanks for posting that...
thats always been my favorite!!!
wendy o'
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826.39 | Lots of Loves | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Fri Aug 19 1988 18:25 | 11 |
|
Hi Wendy!
Time for some skiing this year? Still have the 4WD and it's going
great.
As for this note......I LOVE skiing!
*<(8*)||
Cindy
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826.40 | A Midsummer Night's Dream inspired the title ... | PARROT::BAHN | The 1st 2000 lifetimes are toughest! | Sat Aug 20 1988 14:28 | 74 |
| About two or three years ago, the following poem came into my
mind. I didn't compose it in the sense that I've done with most
of my poems over the years ... no fretting over words, no concern
over meaning and I seldom write stuff that rhymes.
Since it's definitely about LOVE, I wanted to share it here.
The Stuff that Dreams are Made From
Reading a book in a friendly tree;
Sailing away on a misty sea;
Remembering things that have yet to be ...
The stuff that dreams are made from.
Following a road to the very end;
Watching the river go 'round a bend;
Falling in love with a long-lost friend ...
The stuff that dreams are made from.
Nothing to lose and nothing to gain;
Thoughts filled with joy; thoughts filled with pain;
Even so, thoughts that are never in vain ...
Of the stuff that dreams are made from.
Listening to things that no one hears;
Putting aside a million fears;
Being in love for a hundred years ...
The stuff that dreams are made from.
Friends far off in another place;
No more need to be face to face;
Slipping the bonds of time and space ...
For the stuff that dreams are made from.
Innocent children on a shiny morn;
Love, like an old shoe, comfortably worn;
Written in stardust before we were born ...
The stuff that dreams are made from.
Three kinds of Love the Greeks did say,
Eros, Philios, and Agape';
I like it better the English way ...
The stuff that dreams are made from.
Tomorrow -- as clear as a crystal lake;
A sleeping giant about to wake,
But push at the Future and it may break ...
The stuff that dreams are made from.
A mystery unfolding, but who knows when;
A brief flash of insight now and then?
What happened once must happen again ...
The stuff that dreams are made from.
Visiting a wise man across the sea;
Puts your mind at peace over what shall be.
For now, the knowledge is enough for me ...
The stuff that dreams are made from.
Three days after and three days before ...
Days can be years in ancient lore;
Nothing but love must open the door
To the stuff that dreams are made from.
Hearing this poem and wondering why;
Letting it flow until it runs dry;
A hopeless romantic, at least till I die ...
The stuff that dreams are made from.
With love,
Terry
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826.41 | Highly recommended reading! | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Tue Aug 30 1988 19:17 | 59 |
|
"Challenge Of The Heart - Love, Sex and Intimacy in Changing Times",
edited by John Welwood.
This work is a collection of essays.
Table Of Contents
-----------------
I. EROTIC LOVE: THE PUZZLE AND THE PROMISE
1. Enchantment and Discernment - Jos� Ortega y Gasset
2. Love Is Not A Feeling - M.Scott Peck
3. Stirring the Oatmeal - Robert Johnson
4. Divine Madness - Alan Watts
5. "Love" as an Addiction - Stanton Peele
6. Falling in Love - Francesco Alberoni
7. Love Evolving - Vladimir Solovyov
8. The Stream of Desire - D.H. Lawrence
9. Love and Grasping - Ch�gyam Trungpa
10. On Love: Conditional and Unconditional - John Welwood
II. WHAT DO MEN AND WOMEN REALLY WANT?
11. The Man/Woman Game - Theodore and Betty Roszak
12. Projecting Our Other Half - John Sanford
13. Cosmic Masculine and Feminine - sukie Colegrave
14. What Men Really Want - Robert Bly and Keith Thompson
15. On Being a Man - D.H. Lawrence
16. The Neglected Child Within - Robert Stein
17. Fears Of Intimacy - Lillian Rubin
18. Feminine Genius - Ariel Ruth Hoebel
19. The Alchemy of Man and Woman - Elanor Bertine
20. Woman and Solitude - Anne Morrow Lindbergh
III. MARRIAGE AS A PATH
21. Marriage Is Dead, Long Live Marriage! - Adolf Guggenb�hl-Craig
22. Marriage and the Living Cosmos - D.H. Lawrence
23. Poetry and Marriage: The Use of Old Forms - Wendell Berry
24. Coupling/Uncoupling - Robert Stein
25. Marriage as Transformative Work - J.G. Bennett
26. On Intimacy and Death - Elizabeth K. Bugental
IV. SEXUALITY: THE MEETING OF TWO WORLDS
27. Sex as Work - Lionel Lewis and Dennis Brissett
28. Sex as Contemplative Activity - Alan Watts
29. Magnetic Attraction - Julius Evola
30. Passion and Transformation - Bernd Jager
V. LARGER VISIONS OF RELATIONSHIP
31. The Sacred Dimension - Suzanne Lilar
32. Conscious Love - A.R. Orage
33. Coming to Meet: Advice from the I Ching - Carol Anthony
34. Renunciation and Daring - Ch�gyam Trungpa
35. Dancing on the Razor's Edge - John Welwood
36. Learning To Love - Ranier Maria Rilke
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826.42 | Lovely Lyric | SUPER::REGNELL | Smile!--Payback is a MOTHER! | Wed Aug 31 1988 11:27 | 42 |
| For me, love grows and changes, and flows, spanning
time and space.
Melinda
==================================================
Blue Bonnet Spring
Gulf Coast Highway,
he worked the rails...
he worked the rice fields with their cold dark wells...
he worked the oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico,
the only thing he ever owned
was this old house here by the road.
And when he dies he says he'll catch some blackbird's
wing and fly away to heaven
come some sweet blue bonnet spring.
She walked in Springtime,
when he was home...
their days were sweet, their nights were long...
seasons change, the jobs come, the flowers fade...
this old house seemed so alone
when the work took him away.
And when she dies she says she'll catch some blackbird's
wing and fly away to heaven
come some sweet blue bonnet spring.
Highway 90,
the jobs are gone.
They tend their garden, they set the sun.
This is the only place on earth blue bonnets grow...
once a year they come and go
at this old house here by the road.
And when they die they say they'll catch some
blackbird's wing and they will fly away to heaven
come some seet blue bonnet spring....
And when they die they say they'll catch some
blackbird's wing and fly away together
come some seet blue bonnet spring.
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826.43 | Let me count the ways. | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Thu Sep 01 1988 21:38 | 55 |
|
Why Do I Love You?
I love you,
Not only for what you are,
But for what I am
When I am with you.
I love you
Not only for what
You have made of yourself,
But for what
You are making of me.
I love you
For ignoring the possibilities
Of the fool in me
And for laying firm hold
Of the possibilities for good.
Why do I love you?
I love you
For closing your eyes
To the discords -
And for adding to the music in me
By worshipful listening.
I love you because you
Are helping me to make
Of the lumber of my life
Not a tavern
But a temple;
And out of the words
Of my every day
Not a reproach
But a song.
I love you
Because you have done
More than any creed
To make me happy.
You have done it
Without a word,
Without a touch,
Without a sign.
You have done it
Just by being yourself
After all
Perhaps that is what
Love means.
- Roy Croft
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826.44 | Sleep well, my love. | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Thu Sep 01 1988 21:57 | 26 |
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Goodnight - For Husbands and Wives....and SO's too! (;^)
This day is almost done. When the night and morning meet it will
be only an unalterable memory. So let no unkind word; no careless,
doubting thought; no guilty secret; no neglected duty; no wisp of
jealous fog becloud its passing. For we belong to each other -
to have and to hold - and we are determined not to lose the keen
sense of mutual appreciation which God has given us. To have is
passive, and was consumated on our wedding day, but to hold is active
and can never be quite finished so long as we both shall live.
Now, as we put our arms around each other, in sincere and affectionate
token of our deep and abiding love, we would lay aside all disturbing
thoughts, all misunderstandings, all unworthiness. If things have
gone awry let neither of us lift an accusing finger nor become
entangled in the rationalizations of self-defense. Who is to blame
is not important; only how shall we set the situation right. And
so, serving and being served, loving and being loved, blessing and
being blessed, we shall make a happy, peaceful home, where hearts
shall never drop their leaves, but where we and our children shall
learn to face life joyfully, fearlessly, triumphantly, so near as
God shall give us grace.
Goodnight, beloved.
- F. Alexander Magoun
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826.45 | Togetherness | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Thu Sep 01 1988 22:04 | 29 |
|
Fulfillment
Lo, I have opened unto you
the gates of my being.
And like a tide, you have flowed
into me.
The innermost recesses of my spirit
are full of you
And all channels of my soul
are grown sweet with your presense.
For you have brought me peace;
The peace of great tranquil waters,
And the quiet of the summer sea.
Your hands are filled with peace as
The noon-tide is filled with light;
About your head is bound the eternal
Quiet of the stars, and in your heart
dwells the calm miracle of twilight.
I am utterly content.
In all my being is no ripple of unreast
For I have opened unto you the
Wide gates of my being
And like a tide, you have flowed into me.
- Author Unknown
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826.46 | Home is where the heart is. | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Thu Sep 01 1988 22:10 | 21 |
| Home Is Where There's One To Love Us
Home's not merely four square walls,
Though with pictures hung and guilded;
Home is where Affection calls,
Filled with shrines the Heart hath builded!
Home! - go watch the faithful dove,
Sailing 'neath the heaven above us;
Home is where there's one to love!
Home is where there's one to love us!
Home's not merely roof and room -
It needs something to endear it;
Home is where the heart can bloom,
Where there's some kind of lip to cheer it!
What is home with none to meet,
None to welcome, none to greet us?
Home is sweet - and only sweet -
Where there's one we love to meet us!
- Charles Swain
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826.47 | More from # 36 | USAT05::KASPER | You'll see it when you believe it. | Thu Sep 01 1988 23:17 | 9 |
| re :.41 (Cindy)
> 36. Learning To Love - Ranier Maria Rilke
If you haven't read anything else by this guy, a short one I
think you'll like is _Letters To A Young Poet_. Very touching
and very inspiring.
Terry
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826.48 | Merci! | CLUE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Fri Sep 02 1988 12:18 | 4 |
|
Thanks Terry, will check it out.
Cindy
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826.49 | loves both sides at the same time | PNO::KELLOGG | | Fri Sep 02 1988 13:46 | 68 |
| A short but oh so sweet and painful Irish poem.
hope it hits home. I think of this poem now every time I
get impatient with my little ones.
r.k.
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Note 111.0 A BEAUTIFUL IRISH POEM 1 reply
FNYFS::AUNGIER "Rene El Gringo sin casa, Irish Rebe" 55 lines 30-DEC-1986 04:44
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Ta ana amhas orm a dain seo a cur anseo
I am very happy to include this poem here.
Ta an dain seo ag caint ar paiste. Bionn fearg orainn
nuair a deanann paiste rudai cosuil le briseadh rudai
sa teach ach ni bionn siad linn rofhada agus mar sin
de chaithimid beith pasainte.
This poem talks about children. We sometimes get annoyed
when children do things like breaking something in the
house but children are not with us for long as the poem says
and because of that we have to be a little patient with them
SUBH MILIS
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Bhi subh milis ar bhascrann an dorais
ach mhuch me an ciorrai ionam a d'eirigh
mar smaoinigh ar a la a bheis an bascrann glan
agus an laimh beag ar eirigh.
I will translate it literally first as it is more beautiful
the way we Irish express ourselves in Irish than in English.
There was jam on the handle of the door
but I quenched the anger that arose within me
when I thought of the day that the handle will be clean
and the little hand missing.
It means that a child dirtied the handle of a door with
jam and the parent felt angry but said nothing, instead the
parent thinks of how quickly the child will grow up and leave
the home and the handle of the door will be clean with no children
around.
It is a sad and happy poem. Sad because the parent can feel
the loneliness that will arise in the home when the child is
grown up. Happy because the child brings joy and happiness to
the home and give a good feeling in the home.
I cannot remember more off by hard but there are very many such
poems which are rich, sad, happy, and give joy to me anyway
at the beauty of the Irish language and all that is Irish.
Slan agus beannacht.
Go n-eiri an bothair leat agus feachimid sibh an blian seo chugainn
Rene Aungier
(An Gaelach ag obair sa Franc, Nil morainn sheans agam mo chuid
Geilge a chleactha anseo ach ta me ag leabh anois mar ni maith
liom mo chuid Geilge a chailte)
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826.50 | some song | DPDMAI::SWENSON | | Fri Sep 02 1988 15:10 | 7 |
| Love is a rose and you dare not pick it
Only grows when it's on the vine
Hands full of thorns and you know you've missed it
Lose your love when you say the word "MINE"
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826.51 | | SCOMAN::RUDMAN | Amateur Hour goes on and on... | Fri Sep 02 1988 17:42 | 6 |
| Love is a series of Darlings and Dearies,
Of Honeys and Sweeties and sugared entreaties,
Of moonings and swoonings and cooings and billings;
All tempered, of, course, by occasional killings.
Don
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826.52 | HAHAHAHAHAHA | BSS::BLAZEK | Dancing with My Self | Fri Sep 02 1988 18:11 | 6 |
| Don, did you write that?
Hilarious! =8*)
Carla
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826.53 | No, merely typed it. | SCOMAN::RUDMAN | Amateur Hour goes on and on... | Wed Sep 07 1988 14:25 | 1 |
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826.54 | The little steps that count the most. | CLUE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Thu Sep 08 1988 17:46 | 22 |
|
A Footpath To Peace
To be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to
work and to play and to look up at the stars,
To be satisfied with your possessions but not contented with yourself
until you have made the best of them,
To despise nothing in the world except falseness and meanness and
to fear nothing except cowardice,
To be governed by your admirations rather than by your disgusts,
To covet nothing that is your neighbor's except his kindness of
heart and gentleness of manners,
To think seldom of your enemies and often of your friends...
These are the little guideposts on the footpath to peace.
- Henry van Dyke
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826.55 | Saw in another conference | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Mon Sep 12 1988 20:12 | 8 |
|
"Love is not primarily a relationship to a specific person; it is
an attitude, an ordination of character which determines the
relatedness of the person to the whole world as a whole, not toward
one object of love."
Eric Fromm (1900-1980)
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826.56 | There's a time... | BSS::VANFLEET | 6 Impossible Things Before Breakfast | Tue Sep 13 1988 14:06 | 30 |
| This song doesn't mention love much directly but I
think that's what it's really about.
There's a Time
There's a time to be coming home again
There's a time to be knowing when to leave the past behind.
There's a time, I believe it.
There's a time to be holding out your hand
There's a time to be understanding love is what we are.
There's a time, I believe the time is now.
There has always been a time for reaching out to each other.
In darkness we have never been free.
But one light can be shared with another
And soon the world will see, we will see, let us see.
There's a time to be giving up the lies
There's a time to be realizing how we can be free.
There's a time, I believe it.
There's a time to be letting go of fear
There's a time to be in the here and now of who we are.
There's a time I believe the time is now.
I can't tell you who wrote it as my copy of the music cuts off
the composer's name. From what I understand this is the _only_
song this person has ever written. By the way, the music is
just as beautiful as the words.
Nanci
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826.57 | Krishnamurti,about love... | OSLLAV::SVEINN | Across the bridge where angels dwell... | Thu Sep 29 1988 08:19 | 35 |
| from J.Krishnamurti's "The Network of thought"
(Talks in Saanen 1981 19th July)
What is love? This is a very complex question;all of us feel we love
something or other,abstract love,love of a nation,love of a person,love
of god,love of gardening,love of over-eating.We have abused the word love so
greatly that we have to find out basically what love is.
Love is not an idea.Love of god is an idea,love of a symbol is still an idea.
When you go to the church and kneel down and pray,you are really worshipping,
or praying to,something which thought has created.So,see what is happening,
thought has created it - actually this is a fact - and you worship that which
thought has created;which means you are worshipping,in a very subtle way,
yourself.This may seem a sacrilegious statement,but it is a fact.That is what
is happening throughout the world.Thought creates the symbol with all the
attributes of that symbol,romantic or logical and sane;having created it
you love it,you become totally intolerant of any other thing.
All the gurus,all the priests,all the religous structures, are based on that.
See the tragedy of it.Thought creates the flag,the symbol of a particular
country,then you fight for it,you kill for it,you kill each other for it;
your nation will destroy the earth in competition with another nation,and so
the flag becomes a symbol of your love.We have lived for millions of years
in that way and we are still extraordinarily destructive,violent,brutal,cynical
human beeings.
When we say we love another,in that love there is desire,the pleasurable
projections of the various activities of thought.One has to find out
whether love is desire,whether love is pleasure,whether in love there is
fear;for where there is fear there must be hatred,jealousy,anxiety,
possesiveness,domination.There is beauty in relationship and the whole cosmos
is a movement in relationship.Cosmos is order and when one has order in
oneself one has order in one's relationships and therefore the possibility
of order in our society.If one enquires into the nature of relationship one
finds it is absolutely necessary to have order,and out of that order comes
love.
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826.58 | Can we handle the real thing? | ATLAST::LACKEY | Make haste slowly. | Wed Oct 05 1988 16:36 | 70 |
| Hi folks!
Just a few ideas on Love inspired by this note and some of the responses
to the Group Work note (870)...
...Speaking of which, I am off to Hawaii for my honeymoon (or is it
moneyhoon? :'O... will be back 10/17. I look forward to massive reading
when I get back.
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Love is the single most pervasive of several energies which permeate and
make up the Universe as we know it. Love is not an activity, though it
can be expressed in activity. It cannot be measured. The closest we
can come to measuring Love is to measure the size and extent of the
activity or the form which It embodies.
The *only* activity in which Love takes form is *Service*. It takes
form in service which is offered freely, unconditionally, and with no
expectations. Maintaining expectations, especially reciprocity, is the
fastest way to remove the energy of Love from the service. The service
may still have some positive effect, but the real *substance* is gone.
Love, though it takes only one form, has many characteristics. Through
the service, it can appear patient, kind, often firm, and sometimes even
cold. It can take on virtually any characteristic depending on what is
required for the greatest service.
Love can be wielded with great power by those with "purity of purpose".
It is the greatest strength available to the human race, yet the human
race is for the most part unaware of it. The vast majority of people
have not even experienced real Love except for possibly a moment here
and there when a kindness is performed spontaneously, nothing is
accepted in return, and a strong sense of well being results. Many
people are reaching a point in their development where the genuine
energy of Love is becoming available, but most do not yet know how to
use it.
Love, as most people experience it in their daily lives, is really the
emotional (astral) energy of the solar plexus centre. *Real* Love is
channeled through the heart centre. Many aspirants on the Path who have
some knowledge of the centres intellectually know this, yet continue out
of habit to associate the lower energies of the solar plexus with those
of the heart. The only real problem with this is that if we think,
inaccurately, that we are using energy from the heart, then there is
nothing to inspire us to reach up from the solar plexus into the heart.
The majority of people stumble into the heart centre quite by "accident"
as a natural outcome of growth through the ages, along with dharma and
whatever amount of karma may be required for the final little push.
An example, in this day and age, of pure heart energy and genuine Love
is Mother Theresa. What does she do? She serves; that's all. If each
person in this country spent a couple of hours each week in selfless
service to others, the collective consciousness of the nation would be
immediately enlightened. How many people do we know who serve
selflessly, with no concern for themselves? Christ, generally
considered in this country to be the embodiment of Love, never said,
"Follow me, let's go work on our spiritual growth." He urged us to
heal the sick and feed the poor. One of the most significant problems
with "new age" aspirants is "spiritual selfishness".
We have the knowledge, we have the means, but what are we doing?
Aspirants, in this country in particular, have replaced the "going for
the (material) gusto" with, "going for the (spiritual) gusto". What
is so spiritual about selfishness? When we are aspiring to move up
from the lower centres to the solar plexus, then experiencing the
energies of that centre is "spiritual", but when we have exhausted
those energies (which many of us have), it is time to move on.
Jeff
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826.59 | Where's the line??? | USAT05::KASPER | You'll see it when you believe it. | Wed Oct 05 1988 18:11 | 30 |
| re: .-1
I agree. For the most we are unaware of what *real* love can be and
can do. I understand, as others do, what you said. I have some
trouble with putting 'service' into action. This means everything
from risking one's life for another to helping the guy next door
hang some sheet-rock. There is a need to develop and love ourselves
first or we can't provide the kind of service you mention. When, and
how much, do we sacrifice for someone else and how do we learn to know
to separate what is okay to sacrifice and what isn't. I can't believe
that we are all supposed to give up everything to whoever comes calling.
Like the folks that ask for donations at busy intersections, telephone
solicitations, requests for donations (time and $$$) in the mail. Do I
open my house to as many homeless folks that I can pack in. Do I get my
paycheck in quarters so I have something to give all those folks (who
mean well and are just trying to do their part to serve) at the door and
at the intersections on the way home? When is it okay to say, "Sorry,
not today"???
This comes from alot of frustration on my part from helping others.
I always find myself offering my time to others, leaving little time
for myself. When I do help, I usually feel good about it afterwards
but I feel like I'm not attending to the things that really need my
attention - and it *gets* to me.
I could go on for a while. This is a hot topic for me and I wish I
knew (better than I do now) when it's okay to put myself first without
feeling selfish about it.
Terry
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826.60 | $.02 | NATASH::BUTCHART | | Thu Oct 06 1988 14:47 | 73 |
| Re: .59
Terry, you may feel frustrated, but you aren't alone in it. I've
suffered continually from the very same things you mention. I have
always equated loving with serving. But I have lately run up against
situations that have caused me to question it, particularly in the
realm of *personal* love/service to another. What happens when my
well has just run dry, when I have nothing left to give? I mean,
I could get my paycheck in quarters and give it all away too, but
what of after it's gone? Am I then to be considered "un-loving"
because I must show empty pockets to those in need?
What I can say about the connection between love and service on
a personal level is this: love for another makes service a joy
instead of drudgery. On a night when I had a class, I scampered
home to cook a dinner for my husband first. He, in turn, even though
he's a real lark (early to bed early to rise), waited up for me so
I wouldn't come home and feel alone (after a class which is often
upsetting). We are each of us moved by the other's gestures. I
stood at my good friend's side and endured her curses and my
helplessness to ease her pain as she gave birth to her daughter.
She, in turn, has listened to me at times when I needed it most,
and when I just wanted to rail at someone, not take any advice.
But must a person feel this way about *everyone* on the planet?
Must one feel like a spiritual slug if one *doesn't* feel this way
about everyone? Is it, perhaps, enough that a person can find the
power within themselves to express this specially numinous kind of
service for just one, maybe two people in his/her life? I feel that
Mother Theresa is as specialized a genius as any athlete, artist, or
inventor. A beautiful example but I just don't have the stuff
(this time around, anyway) to be her. I am only me, with my small
circle of people who I am capable of expressing personal love and
service to.
Service and love, considered extra-personally, is another matter.
Is service to another necessarily fulfilling that person's expressed
wish? I may have to turn away a solicitor for an environmental
charity, but I carpool, conserve, avoid toxic products, recycle.
I am *still serving others, even if I could not fulfill a specific
personal request for a specific kind of service.* The solicitor
and I are serving a common goal, born of love for our planet, each
in our own way, and I refuse to feel invalidated because our ways
diverge.
How many of us, I wonder, perform what are actually loving services
for others that we have never considered in that light? How many
of us, if we have realized it, devalue the service we perform because
others don't value it, or because it just comes so naturally that we
never think of it as sacred? I submit that we are all already a lot
more loving and service-oriented than we give ourselves credit for,
and that we learn to look at ourselves with fresh eyes, rather than
automatically assuming that we have some kind of spiritual blight
that only severe penance can cure.
If you slow down while driving in the neighborhood where you know
children play; if you turn off your tap water when not actually
rinsing something; if you lunge the extra step to shove open the
door for a heavily laden person; if you make silly faces that cause
the baby in the restaurant to stop screaming; if you offer to run
any of your office's social functions; if you carpool to work; if
you donate blood; if you vote; if you keep the sidewalk in front
of your home shovelled and salted; if you teach your children good
manners; if you've ever stopped to help a person with a flat; if
you notify the police if you see something suspicious going on in
a home not your own; if you bring your pens back to work; if you
charge your personal phone calls made on company time to your home
number -- hey, I could go on and on, but by this time you can probably
think of your own examples. My point is, this kind of love cum service
is probably already part of your everyday life. If you do any of
these things you are serving others, whether you know it or not,
and are thereby expressing a kind of love.
Marcia
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826.61 | On Loving Thyself - An attempt at an explanation. | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Thu Oct 06 1988 18:15 | 85 |
|
I agree with what Jeff writes at one level, and yet also feel that
this is the major paradox that, if not understood, makes people
feel even more guilty - that they _should_ be doing more and by
doing more they will feel far better.
Well...it doesn't really work that way.
As was written in "Mister God, This Is Anna", Anna says that the
people who do good works time after time so that they become more
loving have it backwards. She says that the trick is to *be* like
Mister God and then you can't help but be good, kind and loving.
So what is it to *be* like Mister God? Well, first you have to
know yourself - good parts, not-so-good parts and all...and then
love yourself - good parts, not-so-good parts and all. Typically
this happens in childhood where, if you come from a relatively happy
home, you have a good sense of Self. You may have *done* bad things
but *you* weren't bad. Despite everything, you knew you were loved.
Big difference. From "Bradshaw On: The Family", Bradshaw estimates
that approx. 95% of all families are dysfunctional to some degree.
So that leaves about 5% of the population who have a healthy,
complete sense of Self, affirmed by the parents and family they grew
up around, and knew even that if their world was crashing in around
them, that they were loved for who they were. In other words, not
many people are this complete.
If you were in the other 95%, chances are that you have gaps inside
of you - gaps that are filled by all sorts of addictions trying
to fill yourself with what you, by all rights, should have received
as a child - a healthy sense of Self...and a solid sense that you
are Loved.
When you don't feel you are loved for who you are, then you have
no love to give. You can go through the motions of giving, but
it isn't giving from the Love because you don't have it...through
no fault of your own. I guess I'm speaking from experience here
because this is what happened to me. It hurt to love and I felt
bankrupt most of the time. And drained, very drained.
It's a long story, but through someone who came along and listened
to me for the first time and accepted me anyway, I came to realize
my own personal connection to the Divine source of Love back in
May 1987. I still cannot explain the feeling of that moment when it
all came together for me. It was a moment of Grace - nothing less.
Now it is possible for me to freely give, because it isn't love, but
Love that is behind my actions. It is the Source which never goes
away. With Love, all is possible. This is the Love that I believe
Jeff was talking about in his note. Yes, Service is the way, however
to get to that level of giving freely, you must first love yourself.
There's no other way to get there.
Now, even though I went through my experience, I still have days
where I have to focus in on myself to rekindle my own energy...I also
have to be loved by my friends more actively than just believing that
God loves me and getting by on my own. Even Anne Lindbergh speaks of
this need for solitude from the demands of service - the time to
be alone, and this is especially true of women since they are more
typically in service roles than men (though this is changing). So
to be a bit selfish in this regard - there's nothing wrong with this
whatsoever. More than anything else, life requires balance.
Marcia - in "The Different Drum", Peck writes that the more one
truly Loves, the less one truly 'likes'. When you are familiar
with the parts of yourself that you need to work on, you can more
readily identify them in other people...but if you love that part
of you anyway, then you are able to love the other person despite
their own area they need to work on. You may not "like" them, but
you are able to Love them anyway.
The greatest commandments are "Love The Lord Thy God....", and "Love
Thy Neighbor AS Thyself." This doesn't say love thy neighbor _more_
than or _instead_ of, but _as_ THYSELF. You can only love yourself
by knowing, accepting and loving all of you.
In the experience of community, we didn't all necessarily _like_
each other at the end of the weekend, but we loved each other enough
to be able to step over those more irritating things to go forth
as a community where we were all accepted for who we were anyway.
Kind of like DEJAVU.
Hope this helps somewhat. It falls far short of what I'm trying
to convey however.
Cindy
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826.62 | More thoughts on Service | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wonders never cease. | Fri Oct 07 1988 13:19 | 20 |
|
May have written this here earlier.....
Read very recently what Mother Teresa said to someone who came up
to her after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize and asked her what
they could do to advance the cause of world peace. Her reply was
"Go home and love your family."
Service can be this simple and straightforward. If everyone on
Earth truly understood and actually loved their family in the way
that is written about in many religious texts and other places, we
would achieve world peace in short order, because to love your
immediate family is the same as loving the entire family of humanity
.....after you love yourself first. It is this first step that is
the most difficult.
There is no 'us vs. them'. There is only 'us'. The other 5(?)
billion people on the planet are our neighbors.
Cindy
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826.63 | Self-love... | ATSE::FLAHERTY | Just imagine it. | Fri Oct 07 1988 15:55 | 18 |
| I agree with Cindy .61 and .62. The most difficult lesson I've
had to learn is that no matter how much you love someone, if that
person doesn't love himself/herself they can't accept or return
love. They feel undeserving and unworthy of being loved. If they
have low selfesteem they begin to batter on your selfesteem. They
figure you must not be much of a person if you could love them.
Finally, through talking to the other person's therapist I had to
face the fact that there was really nothing I could do and there
wasn't much hope of the person changing at this point. The
problems stemmed from childhood (being the child of an alcoholic)
and until he could let go of the anger/guilt/shame/whatever and love
himself, he would just continue to drive people away from him.
Perhaps attending Adult Children of Alcoholics meetings or such
would help him or continued therapy, in the meantime you can only
love someone who doesn't love himself from a distance...
Ro
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826.64 | one is the only number | USAT05::KASPER | You'll see it when you believe it. | Fri Oct 07 1988 17:51 | 20 |
| Re: .60 (Marcia)
Thanks for your reply. I think alot of us do those 'little' things
every day and that's good, real good. But, I just seem to frequently
overbook myself at the times I need me-time the most. Must be some
subconscious reason (or maybe ego reason) I do that. Just need to
keep working on it.
re: .62 (Cindy)
> There is no 'us vs. them'. There is only 'us'. The other 5(?)
> billion people on the planet are our neighbors.
Right! How would a tree get along if the leaves fought amoungst
themselves??? (recognize that line Bill, it's from the book you
told me about...) However, cosmically speaking, rather than neighbors,
we *are* them and they *are* us...
Terry
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826.65 | Love and Light | SCOPE::PAINTER | My dogma got run over by my karma. | Fri Oct 07 1988 21:48 | 240 |
|
This is also in note 558.0 originally posted by Bill Keefe, however
it fits in rather well here with the comments about Love toward the
end.
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The following was taken from one of Bob Monroe's early "Explorer
sessions". It relates to the current discussions as well as the coming
changes. This is a full transcript of one of the Explorer tapes
from the Monroe Institute.
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"MESSAGES"
Blessed are they who seek me. In seeking me, their long period of
forgetfulness is coming to an end. They are awakening to who they truly
are - a living part of me, manifesting life and radiating love.
There is much to do. There is much to learn. There is much strength
to be gathered. Be aware that all is life. All life is one. You are one
within one and you must feel the constant presence of the one who is.
Feel with my feeling. Know with my knowing. Bless all creatures with
the love we have shared from the beginning.
You have forgotten to look for me, much less to gaze upon my
countenance, oh, ye of little faith. There are countless numbers who
live in the expectancy of my coming. In truth, I never left.
Let him who has ears to hear, let him hear, now.
You seek me amidst your blindness. You look upon me without
recognition, You touch my hand and know not whom you have touched.
You proclaim my name and my teachings as it suits you and the
occasion.
You were taught years ago to search the scripture and learn of me.
You were also told that in the reading of the scriptures you must go
deep. In the depths you will find your draft of fishes.
Awaken, behold the reality of my being that is among you.
I am the earthquake, wind, and fire.
I am the still small voice piercing the thunderous tumult.
I am the peace beyond all understanding.
I am the light that guides all men to the Father.
I am the love that overcometh all things.
I am the light that illumines the minds of men. I am the the
sustenance of man's soul.
I am your life and you are my own.
I am the very breath you breathe.
We are one in the Father.
Do not despair, I will never leave thee nor forsake the, nor can
you truly forsake me, for we are one.
Let the old way be gone. It must die and its ashes be blown to the
four corners of the earth. The new is emerging but you must change your
perspective. Do not look for me in the form of a man. The time is not
yet. But look for me in the life that speaks to you in your everyday
activities. You have looked amiss.
I have no limitations and am not bound by physical dimensions.
I defy logic and am beyond your conceptual imaginings.
I live and move and have my being in all there is. You have sought
me amiss.
My countenance is seen within each face of my Father's creation.
Look upon your brother and see my face.
Bend over a still pool. Do not be deceived. The image that you see
reflected is my own.
Do you not see the truth now?
Fear is an acid that erodes the total man.
Fear deters growth of all kinds.
Fear reduces the giant man into a pygmy.
Fear clouds reason and darkens the soul.
Fear has no power to protect itself, but invites the enemy, one's
own perverse thoughts.
Fear is a parasite, it grows stronger feeding upon the energy of
its host.
Fear engenders fear and becomes the cause of many illnesses.
Fear is of this world, but has no place in the higher reality.
Fear thoughts are not to be trusted for they are already
distortions of the truth.
Live in the realization of us, the light. We dispel all darkness,
even the shadowy places. Man does not walk alone. His self made fear
convinces him that he is a solitary creature. This is true only if he
wills it so. You suffer unnecessarily for we surround you and uphold
you. Listen, your instructions are ever present only awaiting your
receptivity. Fear clogs the channels. Fear is a form of self
preoccupation and limits you to your lower self.
We speak through the higher octave, the more refined network where
data is more easily transmitted. Only the strong will survive and you
are being prepared. Call upon us believing.
Do you not understand why the word believing was and is used in
connection with prayer? To believe emits a strong type of vibration
that literally rearranges the atoms in the thought universe, converting
it to greater forms of energy that is directed toward and becomes its
own fulfillment.
Believing is an emotion, an energy, a trusting and an acceptance.
Ask and ye shall receive, believing. Seek and ye shall find, expecting.
Knock and it shall be opened unto you.
Believe, expect, and act upon your belief. Give thanks in all
things.
Look for us amid your joys and your pains, your fears and your
triumphs. We are where you are, where life is, for we are one with all
things, with all there is and you are one with us.
Believing is the key. It will open your consciousness to the
realization of our presence. Together, we can overcome all fear.
Speak oft with thy Lord. This means nothing more than a moment by
moment awareness of my presence within you.
Take my hand, my strength is yours.
Take my thoughts and let them become your thoughts. My love will be
your love bringing purity to your mission, for my understanding and my
compassion will be channeled though you as we prepare the way.
I have led you before, but now I say, recognize me and become a
child of the living God.
Man has been blind long enough. The new day is upon you. The scales
will fall from your eyes.
You will recognize me more and more as you move through your days
beholding those about you with new vision and understanding as to who
they truly are as well as the mission of mine they are trying to
accomplish to the best of their abilities.
Once you begin to perceive me as the real essence of life within
those whom you encounter along the way, you will then understand the
emergence of the new heaven and the new earth. It is upon you, awaken.
Ye who truly seek me shall surely find me. Go in peace.
Learn of me. Take within your hand a leaf, a stone, a drop of
water, and know that nothing exists that does not contain me.
Have you not known that I am eternal life and therefor recognize
neither the past, present, nor future? Only the now, that is. Live in
the now, with me.
You must live daily in a state of receptivity, your awareness
sharpened that you may hear my voice.
Listen for me and then listen to me, for I am there. My light rests
upon you, reflect it to your fellow man in my behalf.
Perceive me in the sea of moments through which you move through
all the days. Listen for my voice upon the winds of time and you will
know I am ever with you and there is nothing to fear.
Blessed are they who seek me for they have found me.
Lo, I stand in the midst of you.
I am the very center of your being. You have only to grow quiet and
listen to know that I am here.
Your physical senses find difficulty in placing me. Your mind
demands scientific answers. If the soul itself cannot be located nor
xrayed then its existence is not only questioned but in many cases
rejected. You must surely understand the even greater difficulty one
would face if he tried to explain my presence with him.
Do not doubt the light that is within you. I and the light are one.
From this light you will be shown the way.
Your involvement with me cannot be fruitious if it is only an
intellectual acceptance. Strong emotional impulses must be generated
within you motivated by your own deep felt desire to communicate with
me. This emotional welling fort will bring about your inner sense of
recognition of my presence. Then you can accept me as a living part of
you.
Learn then to sustain your awareness of me in the joy of your
discovery. In your joy will come a total knowing, a knowing and
interflow of peace and confidence that will sustain you all the days of
your life.
Love. What's in a word, especially love? The very word is tired. It
is not the word we are interested in but what it represents.
Very few in your world know what the word love means or have ever
experienced this condition. Some have had glimpses, which in truth
would affect the quality of their emotion you now call love, but you
have not even begun to know the true essence of love.
The difference between man's understanding of love and the
knowledge of the true essence of God like energy expressing itself, in
full, is comparable with a candle and the sun.
Some of you have had moments of exquisite agony as you have tapped
the stream wherein flows this God energy expression. Once you have
known this ecstasy you seek always to duplicate it.
Do not be fooled, you do not love in the true sense. You are merely
fond of, for this is the emotion that is commonly accepted as being the
basis of love affairs as well as the ingredient that holds families and
societies together.
Man has stopped to soon. He has convinced himself that what he
calls love is sufficient. He is a child, ignorant of the greater
consciousness.
In simplest form, man must not only love as he understands love,
but learn to intensify it a million fold, thereby moving into the
knowledge of God energy expressing itself as pure, divine love/light.
Is it not true that as a result of your own infrequent surges of
this love energy, reveal no more than a split second, you react
inwardly in a profound ecstasy, moved to such a degree that it defies
expression?
Man says there are different kinds of love. I say there is only one
love. This divine love energy cannot be profaned.
You ask why man has missed his mark and failed so miserably in not
only his understanding but in his use of this condition of being in the
love state.
So far in man's evolution he has grown complacent with what he
feels is a workable solution in developing part of his nature, to love
as a balance for all his negative characteristics.
At least man has made a step in the right direction, but he is a
mere babe at the crawling stage in his capacity to truly love. The babe
who crawls does not know what it is to walk, much less to run or to
fly.
Man does not know his potential to love. Until man opens himself to
the absolute sweeping power of dynamic God energy, compassionate,
health giving, understanding and tolerant in every way, he will remain
in his illusion that he is a practitioner of the thing he calls love.
This God energy expressing itself is the very essence of the new
heaven and the new earth, and one's eligibility is based upon his
perception of, use of, and attunement to this rarefied energy.
The glimpses you may have had are only reminders, for you know
already it is a matter of raising your consciousness and learning to
sustain that state. If you will hold longer and longer periods in this
glorified state, you will find you little self melting away and a sense
of true sonship coming upon you.
You can only express love in its truest sense by becoming love. The
old pattern must be broken. You must die to your lesser self that you
may reach out and accept your true identity as a living expression of
the love of God.
Prepare yourselves to move away from the old and become the new,
the new love.
I stand in the light, as you stand in the light. But you do not
know of your light. I am here to show you that your light and my light
are one and the same. Once you recognize this divine light to be a part
of all that is, will you then begin to understand your own relationship
to life, to your creator, and thereby to your own sonship eternal.
I neither slumber nor sleep and you must learn that your soul
neither slumbers nor sleeps. Once you realize this, you are aware of
your spiritual vitality and wakefulness to your higher consciousness.
In so knowing you will understand that I am truly closer than your
hands and feet. In this knowing, in this knowledge, we are one.
Live in truth. Be truth. Live in beauty. Become an artist in
living.
Live in me and let me express you.
I reside in all space and no space, all time and no time.
Once you turn and become a part of my reality, all power is
restored unto you. This is the power that makes you one with all
things. This is the power that will set you free.
My children, abide in me.
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826.66 | The line is constantly moving. | ATLAST::LACKEY | Make haste slowly. | Tue Oct 18 1988 17:08 | 56 |
| re: .59
I've been gone for a week, but I would like to reply to Terry since his
was a reply to my previous note.
> -< Where's the line??? >-
> .............................................................When, and
> how much, do we sacrifice for someone else and how do we learn to know
> to separate what is okay to sacrifice and what isn't. I can't believe
> that we are all supposed to give up everything to whoever comes calling.
> ........................................When is it okay to say, "Sorry,
> not today"???
> ...This comes from alot of frustration on my part from helping others.
> I always find myself offering my time to others, leaving little time
> for myself. When I do help, I usually feel good about it afterwards
> but I feel like I'm not attending to the things that really need my
> attention - and it *gets* to me.
If we want service to be a central part of our lives, then we treat it
the same way we treat other integral aspects of our lives. Take
meditation, for instance. More important than the technique which is
used, is the regularity with which it is used; regularity meaning the
setting aside of a certain amount of time on a daily basis and sticking
with it. If we want to play an instrument well we set aside a certain
amount of time on a regular basis and we practice. Similarly, if we
want to become servers we must spend time serving.
Eventually, we will reach a point where we will *choose* *not* to
*ever* put ourselves first. At that time we will have come into our
own, we will know the Christ Light, and Heaven will indeed be
establishing itself on Earth. Until that time we must start with the
first brick and not think that we must always give to everyone and
everything.
The technique for serving is to try to have an attitude of service at
all times, but choose one area in which to concentrate the service. It
doesn't matter what it is. It could be anything from caring for the
elderly to picking up garbage along the road.
We must always serve our families first, and insure that the basics are
covered. What is left over, we begin to offer to others. If we can
inspire our families to serve with us, so much the better. There is no
need for guilt for not giving to everyone who asks for a donation.
Nobody can do everything, but everyone can do something. Simply doing
_something_ regularly is all that is necessary. As service gradually
becomes an innate part of our character we begin to apply it to more and
more of what we do; we become better at it; and more and more we find
that opportunities to serve are available. Discrimination tells us what
to pursue.
When knowledge is channeled through the mind and Love is channeled
through the heart simultaneously, the resulting activity is service, and
the culminating understanding is wisdom.
Jeff
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826.67 | Snatch of Song | CSG001::SDAVIS | | Wed Nov 02 1988 13:15 | 22 |
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There is this little girl
playing on a neighbor's back lawn.
Oriental girl
smuggled from some night to this dawn.
So beautiful and small
so precious to behold
'though nations rise and fall
the truth does not grow old
And I see her as a seed
from two lost refugees
Who later died at sea
but love lived on..
Though our hopes be set adrift
and our faith a faded wreath
And our history seem a myth
only mocking our beliefs
Love lives on.
-Michael Kelly Blanchard
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826.68 | Request | SCOPE::PAINTER | My dogma got run over by my karma. | Thu Nov 03 1988 13:39 | 9 |
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Hi everyone - still in catchup mode. Short request...
Anyone out there have the lyrics to "I Love You Just The Way You
Are", sung by Billy Joel?
Thanks,
Cindy
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826.69 | I can't resist this one -- too spicy | MARKER::KALLIS | Anger's no replacement for reason | Thu Nov 03 1988 13:51 | 7 |
| Re .68 (Cindy):
>Hi everyone - still in catchup mode.
Whatta tomato! :-D
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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826.70 | for Cindy... | VITAL::KEEFE | Bill Keefe - 223-1837 - MLO21-4 | Thu Nov 03 1988 18:02 | 31 |
| Don't go changing to try and please me,
You never let me down before.
Don't imagine you're too familiar,
And I don't see you any more.
I would not leave you in times of trouble,
We never could have come this far,
I took the good times,
I'll take the bad times,
I'll take you just the way you are.
Don't go trying some new fashion,
Don't change the color of your hair.
You always have my unspoken passion,
Although I might not seem to care.
I don't want clever conversation,
I never want to work that hard.
I just want someone that I can talk to,
I want you just the way you are.
I need to know that you will always be,
The same old someone that I knew.
Oh what will it take till you believe in me,
The way that I believe in you.
I said I love you and that's forever,
And this I promise from the heart.
I could not love you any better,
I love you just the way you are.
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826.71 | Oh wouldn't it be loverly! | SCOPE::PAINTER | My dogma got run over by my karma. | Thu Nov 03 1988 18:33 | 6 |
|
Bill - thanks so much!
Steve - (;*) oh no, now I'm getting this wicked attack of
french-fry-itis
Cindy
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826.72 | Yeah, I like it... | BSS::VANFLEET | 6 Impossible Things Before Breakfast | Tue Nov 22 1988 15:15 | 8 |
| Lately I've been trying to define the term love for
myself in terms of our interrelationship with each
other. This definition came up in a class I'm taking:
Love is when I am more concerned with your relationship
to yourself than I am with my relationship to you.
Nanci
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826.73 | | AYOU17::NAYLOR | Drive a Jaguar, fly a Cheetah | Wed Nov 23 1988 03:46 | 16 |
| Not sure I agree with the definition there, Nanci. It may be seen
as love on the part of the concerned party but can also be seen
as downright interference by the other person. I *do* see what you're
getting at, but don't think it defines LOVE.
Now, as an old married man (VERY happily), let me have a go - and
believe me it's tough! Or maybe you already know that?!!!!
Love is : When your heart skips on seeing your partner
Waking your partner up in the morning with a tender
kiss.
Saying you're sorry even when deep down inside you
don't yet feel that way.
An embrace that is remembered for ever.
Brian
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826.74 | Here's one impossible thing. | REGENT::WAGNER | | Wed Nov 23 1988 09:35 | 32 |
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> .72 (Nanci)
"Love is when I am more concerned with your relationship to
yourself than I am with my relationship to you."
Excellent! That's a very good description of love more as a "state
of being", than something that happens to us if the conditions happen
to be just right. If it is anything less than a state of being
love becomes a transient condition continually sought after but rarely
maintained if the conditions that brought it on cannot be maintained.
There is not different types of love, although the word love may
be used inappropriatly at times. There are only degrees or aspects
of love- all culminating in love as a state of being when all aspects
are learned and understood. you are, of course, describing or
explaining what Jesus tried to teach about Love. All the feelings
of love-all the emotions continue when Love is a state of being.
The difference is that in this state, these feelings go on
uninterrupted because now one IS love and not "in" love.
I don't understand this dichotomy. We respect and admire great
masters like Jesus, Buddha, etc. for reaching this state of being
in love and maybe even aspire to it ourselves. But when push comes
to shove, we would rather remain with our elusive, highly transient
beliefs of love. Why is it so difficult to understand that one
need not give up anything except self-centeredness to reach the
state and awareness of all the risen masters.
Ernie
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826.75 | Love | SCOPE::PAINTER | My dogma got run over by my karma. | Wed Nov 23 1988 12:36 | 11 |
|
Yes, Nanci - superb! I needed to read that yesterday and brought
a lot of things together for me.
Ernie - it is difficult because it is something most people have
never experienced firsthand in their lives and therefore haven't
a clue as to what it really is. It is up to those who understand
this to put it into practice and set an example for those who do
not have this conscious love in their lives today.
Cindy
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826.76 | Changes | DNEAST::CHRISTENSENL | | Wed Nov 23 1988 16:22 | 11 |
| Love is as honest as the sunrise
It is as deceitful as the penny
at the bottom of a wishing well.
As one reaches for it; it changes.
As one accepts it; it changes one.
When one is willing to be changed by love,
all things are changed.
Larry
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826.77 | Love-a primer | REGENT::WAGNER | | Tue Nov 29 1988 13:27 | 160 |
| I would like to add some excerpts out of "Story of Attitudes and
Emotions." This is based on Edgar Cayce's readings. Chapter 10 is titled
"Love and Forgiveness."
MY INTENTION IS NOT TO TURN THIS INTO A RELIGIOUS NOTE. But the idea
of love and God (higher self, etc.) are in my mind synonymous and can be used
interchangeably. Notice that through all the aspects of Love runs the thread
of selflessness. This may seem repetitive to many, but from many of the
"interpretations" of love I have read in this and other conferences, perhaps a
refresher course is necessary, especially for those entities who only recently
have reincarnated into this realm and have not yet been able to regain their
understanding of the self's purpose(to love others as the self) in this
physical realm. The following concepts are no different whether interacting
with the self, with friend or mate, or at the level of humanity as a whole.
Ernie
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LOVE IS NOT
Love is not being possessive or jealous.
(Friends, mates or even one's children are not to be regarded as "property")
Love is not "business". It should not be "I'll love you if--"
(Keeping strings attached comes from fear or safety-keeping positions within a
relationship.)
Love is not saying "After all I've done for you!"
( For then one can ask in return "So why did you do it?")
Love is not saying " How could you do this to me?"
(Probably because they deservedly had it coming to them.)
Love is not demanding more than one can freely give.
Love is not feeling superior to any other human being.
Love is not "sitting in judgment."
LOVE IS NOT BEING INTOLERANT OF SELF
LOVE IS NOT CONDEMNING SELF
LOVE IS NOT JUSTIFYING SELF
Justifying self is blaming someone else.
LOVE IS NOT BEING A DOORMAT!
To be sure, patience, long suffering and endurance are in their
respective manners urges that would lead to virtues, but they cease to be a
virtue when the individual entity allows self to merely to be imposed upon,
and to take second place merely because someone else, of a more aggressive
nature, imposes.
LOVE IS NOT BEING PERMISSIVE!
Even Jesus chased the money changers from the temple. In our present
"permissive society" we see many of the fruits of parents who have reared
their children out of fear or "safety-seeking" positions. To allow selfish,
willful children free reign is to bring forth the potential of a destructively
arrogant, indolent, and resentful, self oriented generation. How it will all
come out remains to be seen.
LOVE IS
Love is seeing God(God-force, higher-self) in all that exists.
Love is being a light of love to others.
For flowers will love the entity, as the entity loves the flowers.
Love is giving--completely--with no strings attached, with no need or
expectation of reciprocation. (for love is sufficient unto love-and virtue
should be its only needed reward.)
Love is putting "others first."
Love is allowing others complete freedom to be themselves.
Love is accepting others as they are-not as how we would like them to be.
Love is being respectful of others' thoughts and privacy.(and their time too.)
Love is sharing--"filling the other's cup."
Love is attempting to give what is needed by another individual. (saying or
doing the right thing at the right time and place.)
Love is praying that God's (God-Force,higher self's) will be done through
others-even if it hurts you in the outcome.
Love is accepting the fact that others may hate you for doing (risking) what
you know is right and proper.
Love is being able to stand knowing the truth about yourself and others.
Love is being able to bear whatever you have asked for. (for example, if one
really asks for another's personal opinion about self, or the actuality of a
situation and then cannot stand the answer or ends up hating or resenting the
other for being honest, then better never to have asked.)
Love is being God's Will in the earth. (Being true to self and self's inner
guidance--knowing that one can and should be a channel for the Creative
force.)
LOVE IS BEING OF SERVICE.
They then who begin to pity themselves or wonder what it is all about,
lose the real purpose of Love; that ye may make manifest the love He hath
chosen to give thee.
in every way and manner present self and self's service for service's
sake, and not for self's sake, see?
LOVE IS BEING A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THE CHILDREN OF THE EARTH
LOVE IS BEING ABLE TO STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT FOR WHAT ONE FIRMLY BELIEVES IN
True, one must become selfless, but to have knowledge and withhold
same from others, is not always the best...
Be willing ever, to give account of the reason for faith that lies
within-don't be afraid to speak of same.
LOVE IS BEING HUMBLE
Humbleness does not mean, then degrading nor becoming discouraged when
self has been refused that which according to the principles of self is
debased by those that SHOULD be, are in the position to be, helpful
experiences in the affairs of the entity.
LOVE IS HAVING FAITH AND TRUST
And when you trust in Him (Higher Self) ye are sure--and never need to
be afraid of the material things. For does He not feed the birds in the air?
Does He not give the color to the lily, the incense to the violet?
Love is being able to admit to self and others that you were wrong.(and with
sincerity.)
Love is being sorry enough to never want to be wrong again.
"love is going to someone you've wronged and truly ask forgiveness." (the
readings are very positive toward the need and effectiveness of such aspects
of confession and also of confessional prayer. Truly to be sorry and attempt
to make restitution can even work in the case of prayers for the dead-where
the offended party is beyond telephone, mail, or face-to-face contact. Yet all
are worthwhile approaches-so states the readings.
Also, love is so being that others will find us easy TO forgive!
(One should be able to state honestly and simply, "I was wrong, I'm sorry.
Please forgive me--I'll try to make up for it in what ever way you feel is
agreeable.")
Last though not the least, by any means:
LOVE IS--
PATIENCE--PATIENCE--PATIENCE
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826.78 | Gravity! | DNEAST::CHRISTENSENL | | Thu Dec 01 1988 15:21 | 8 |
| Not to make less re .77
A view, Love is gravity to the soul: it draws us together.
Larry
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826.80 | poem | RATTLE::MACDONALD | | Fri Dec 09 1988 13:14 | 20 |
| I've searched for him all of my life
I've known that he is there,
His face has been in my dreams,
The man has style and flair.
I've kissed his sweet, sweet lips,
And gazed into his soft, brown eyes
I wait for him with anticipation,
When he appears, I'll not be surprised.
For I've "known" him always in my heart,
He is my true love, my destiny,
And when he walks into my life,
Loneliness will cease to be.
Dolores (Dolly) MacDonald
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826.81 | Another definition | HSSWS1::GREG | Malice Aforethought | Sun Dec 18 1988 22:20 | 10 |
|
As long as we're tossing definitions around, I have
a few of my own to add.
Love is when you trust enough to offer your soul
when you care enough to give it if it is needed
But then, what do I know about love?
- Greg
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826.82 | Gurdjieff - about love | OSLLAV::SVEINN | Truth is a pathless land... | Tue Dec 27 1988 03:59 | 21 |
| Gurdjieff once said;
With ordinary love goes hate.I love this.I hate that.
Today I love you,next week,or next hour or next minute,
I hate you.He who can really love can be;he who can be,
can do,he who can do,is.
To know about real love one must forget all about love and
must look for direction.We love because something in ourselves
combines with another's emanations from instinctive center,
emotional center or intellectual center;or it may be from
influences of external form,or from feelings - I love you
because you love me,or because you don't love me;suggestions
of others,sense or superiority,from pity;and for many other reasons;
subjective and egoistic.
We allow ourselves to be influenced.Everything attracts or repels.
There is the love of sex,which is ordinarly known as "love" between
men and women - when this disappears a man and a woman no longer
"love" each other.There is the love of feeling,which evokes the
opposite and makes people suffer.Later,we will talk about conscious
love.
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826.83 | Wang chung | RAVEN1::ROSENBERG | won't get fooled again | Fri Mar 10 1989 01:34 | 8 |
|
True love is the answer to everything.
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826.84 | | CGVAX2::PAINTER | One small step... | Thu Sep 14 1989 17:54 | 159 |
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{From: "Love Is Letting Go Of Fear", by Gerald G. Jampolsky, M.D.}
Author's Note
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We teach what we want to learn, and I want to learn to experience inner
peace.
In 1975, the outside world saw me as a successful psychiatrist who
appeared to have everything he wanted. But my inner world was chaotic,
empty, unhappy and hypocritical. My twenty-year marriage had recently
ended in a painful divorce. I had become a heavy drinker ad had
developed chronic, disabling back pain as a means of handling guilt.
It was at this time that I came across some writings entitled "A Course
In Miracles". The "Course" could be described as a form of spiritual
psychotherapy that is self-taught. I was perhaps more surprised than
anyone when I became involved in a thought system that uses words like
'God' and 'Love'.
I had thought that I would be the last person to be interested in such
writings. I had been extremely judgmental toward people who pursued a
spiritual pathway; I saw them as fearful and I believed they were not
using their intellect properly.
When I first began studying the Course, I had an experience that was
surprising but also very comforting. I hard an inner voice, or possibly
it would be more accurate to say an impression of a voice, which said to
me, "Physician, heal thyself: this is your way home."
I found the Course essential in my struggle for personal transformation.
It helped me to recognize that I really did have a choice of
experiencing peace or conflict, and that this choice is always between
accepting truth or illusion. The underlying truth for all of us is that
the essence of our being is Love.
The Course states that there are only two emotions, love and fear. The
first is our natural inheritance, and the other our mind manufactures.
The Course suggests that we can learn to let go of fear by practicing
forgiveness and seeing everyone, including ourselves, as blameless and
guiltless. By applying the concepts of the Course to both my
professional and personal life, I began to experience periods of peace
that I had never dreamed possible.
I would like to add that I still get depressed and at times feel guilty,
irritable and angry. These moods now last for only brief periods,
whereas they used to last for what seemed an eternity. I used to feel
that I was a victim of the world I saw. When things would go wrong, I
would blame the world or those in it for my misery and feel justified in
my anger. Today, I know I am not a victim of the world I see, and
therefore tend to take responsibility for whatever I perceive and for
the emotions I experience.
We are all teachers of each other. I have written this book because I
believe that in teaching what I want to learn, inner peace, I can become
more consistent in achieving it for myself. This approach is not for
people who want gurus, since it views everyone equally as both a teacher
and a student.
As each of us moves toward a single goal of achieving peace of mind for
ourselves, we can also experience the joining of our minds that results
from the removal of the blocks to our awareness of Love's presence.
Together, therefore, let us demonstrate in our own lives this statement
from A Course in Miracles:
"Teach only Love for that is what you are."
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From the Foreward, by Hugh Prather:
..."To be fully content within this moment is a state of mind so powerful
in its ability to heal and extend peace that it cannot even be hinted at
in words.
Anxiety - the only alternative to trusting what is happening - is a
state of immobilization caused by our focusing on what we believe cannot
be changed: on what is over, or on what has not occurred." ...
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Introduction:
My friend, Hugh Prather, has written, "There must be another way to go
through life besides being pulled through it kicking and screaming.
I believe that there *is* another way of going through life. It
requires our willingness to change our goal.
There is an increasing recognition among people everywhere that we are
destroying ourselves and the world in which we live. We do not seem to
be able to change the world, to change other people, or to change
ourselves. Many of us, myself included, have felt the futility of
trying to rid ourselves of frustration, conflict, pain and illness,
while still holding on to our old belief systems.
Today there is a rapidly expanding search for a better way of going
through life that is producing a new awareness and a change of
consciousness. It is like a spiritual flood that is about to cleanse
the earth. This transformation of consciousness is prompting us to look
inward, and as we explore our inner spaces we recognize the harmony and
at-one-ment that has always been there.
As we look inward, we also become aware of an inner intuitive voice
which provides a reliable source for guidance. When the physical senses
are hushed, and we begin to listen to that inner voice and surrender to
it, we notice that moments of true healing and growth occur. In this
silence, where the conflict of personalities has ceased to interest us,
we can experience the joy of peace in our lives.
Although we want to experience peace, most of us are still seeking
something else that we never find. We are still trying to control and
predict and therefore we feel isolated, disconnected, separate alone,
fragmented, unloved and unlovable. We never seem to get enough of what
we think we want, and our satisfactions are highly transitory.
Even with those people who are close to us we often have love/hate
relationships. These are relationships in which we feel a need to get
something from someone else; when the need is fulfilled, we love them,
and when it is not fulfilled, we hate them.
Many of us are finding that, even after obtaining all the things we
thought we wanted in terms of job, home, family, money, there is still
an emptiness inside. Mother Teresa of Calcutta, India, calls this
phenomenon 'spiritual deprivation'.
Throughout the world there is a growing recognition of the need to feel
fulfillment within, rather than to rely on the external symbols of
success. When we have a desire to 'get' something from another person
or the world and we are not successful, the result is stress expressed
in the form of frustration, depression, perceptions of pain, illness
and death. Most of us seriously want to get rid of the pain, the
illness, and frustrations, but we still want to maintain our old
self-concept. Perhaps that is why we are going in circles, because we
rigidly hold on to our old belief system.
The world we see that seems so insane is the result of a belief system
that is not working. To perceive the world differently, we must be
willing to change our belief system, let the past slip away, expand our
sense of *now*, and dissolve the fear in our minds. This changed
perception leads to the recognition that we are not separate, but have
always been joined.
There are valid pathways that lead to transformation and inner peace.
This small book is written as a primer for those of us who are motivated
towards a life of giving and Love, and away from a life of getting and
fear. In brief, this is a book about self-fulfillment through giving.
The words and drawings present practical applications of the steps for
transformation to everyday situations that all of us face. It is
intended to help us remove the blocks to the awareness of Love's
presence, our true reality, so that we may experience the miracles of
Love in our lives.
As A Course in Miracles suggests, we can have a single goal of peace of
mind and a single function of practicing forgiveness, and our
fulfillment can come from listening to the voice of our inner teacher.
In so doing, we can learn to heal our relationships, experience peace of
mind, and let go of fear.
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826.85 | On Marriage | CGVAX2::PAINTER | One small step... | Fri Sep 15 1989 21:33 | 77 |
| From the Religion Conference: Note 181.397 by Kamran Hakim.
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This is an extract from a tablet from Abdu'l-Baha on marriage:
"The bond that unites hearts most perfectly is loyalty. True lovers, once
united, must show forth the utmost faithfulness one to another. You must
dedicate your knowledge, your talents, your fortunes, your titles, your bodies
and your spirits to God, to Baha'u'llah, and to each other. Let your hearts be
spacious as spacious as the universe of God!
Allow no trace of jealousy to creep between you, for jealousy, like unto poison,
vitiates the very essence of love. Let not the ephemeral incidents of and
accidents of this changeful life cause a rift between you. When differences
present themselves, take counsel together in secret, lest others magnify a
speck into a mountain. Harbour not in your hearts any grievance, but rather
explain its nature to each other with such frankness and understanding that it
will disappear, leaving no remembrance. Choose fellowship and amity and turn
away from jealousy and hypocrisy.
Your thoughts must be lofty, your ideals luminous, your minds spiritual, so
that your souls may become a dawning place for the Sun of Reality. Let your
hearts be like unto two pure mirrors reflecting the stars of the heaven of love
and beauty.
Together make mention of noble aspirations and heavenly concepts. Let there be
no secrets one from the other. Make your home a haven of rest and peace. Be
hospitable, and let the door of your house be open to the faces of friends and
strangers. Welcome every guest with radiant grace and let each feel that it is
his own home.
No mortal can conceive the union and harmony which God has designed for man and
wife. Nourish continually the tree of your union with love and affection, so
that it will remain ever green and verdant through all seasons and bring forth
luscious fruits for the healing of nations.
O beloved of God, may your home be a vision of the paradise of Abha' [i.e. the
most glorious paradise], so that whosoever enters there may feel the essence
of purity and harmony, and cry out from the heart: `Here is the home of love!
Here is the palace of love! Here is the nest of love! Here is the garden of
love!'
Be like two sweet-singing birds perched upon the highest branches of the tree
of life, filling the air with songs of love and rapture.
Lay the foundation of your affection in the very center of your spiritual being
at the very heart of your consciousness, and let it not be shaken by adverse
winds.
And when God gives you sweet and lovely children, consecrate yourselves to their
instruction and guidance, so that they may become imperishable flowers of the
divine rose-garden, nightingales of the ideal paradise, servants of the world
of humanity, and the fruits of the tree of life.
Live in such harmony that others may take your lives for an example and may say
one to another: `Look how they live, like two doves in one nest, in perfect
love, affinity and union. It is as though from all eternity God kneaded the
very essence of their beings for the love of one another!'
Attain the ideal love that God has destined for you, so that you may become
partakers of eternal life forthwith. Quaff deeply from the fountain of truth,
and dwell all the days of your life in a paradise of glory, gathering immortal
flowers from the garden of divine mysteries.
Be to each other as heavenly lovers and divinely bestowed ones dwelling in the
paradise of love. Build your nest on the leafy branches of the tree of love.
Soar into the clear atmosphere of love. Sail upon the shoreless sea of love.
Walk in the eternal rose-garden of love. Bathe in the shining rays of the sun
of love. Be firm and steadfast in the path of love. Perfume your nostrils with
the fragrance from the flowers of love. Attune your ears to the soul-entrancing
melodies of love. Let your aims be as generous as the banquets of love, and
your words as a string of white pearls from the ocean of love. Drink deeply of
the elixir of love, so that you may live continually in the reality of Divine
love."
Abdu'l-Baha -Baha'i Writings-
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826.86 | Response | DNEAST::CHRISTENSENL | Keeper of the Myth | Sat Sep 16 1989 01:26 | 3 |
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Let it be so.
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826.87 | Leo Buscaglia video wanted | STARCH::RAMAKR | Rama Karedla | Thu Oct 05 1989 15:42 | 17 |
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Hello Everyone,
I once heard Leo Buscaglia speak on LOVE sometime back
on channel 2. It was a moving experience !
I have been longing to listen to him again.
I tried local stores for his videos but i guess none are
available.
Could someone lend me a video recording of him if they
possess one ?
I shall be most grateful.
Love to All
rama karedla
( who once thought he understood what LOVE is ,now knows he doesn't)
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