Conference hydra::dejavu

    Today's also my grandfather's 80th birthday.  He was, obviously,
    born 8/8/8, and we like to pretend he was born at 8:00 since the
    actual time of birth is unknown.

    Steve,
    
    I can't believe you 8 the _whooooooole_ thing!
    
    Marion

    Grandmother (Grandee) Edith Jenne Burroughs was born 8/8/88 (1888) 
    but alas did not make it to her centennial.  Passed in her 80's 
    
    
    

    
    RE:-.1
    
    	But did she at least make it to age 88?
    
    
    	GCA/
    
    

I just wanted ...

...to make it to

818.8.

But since numerology makes 818.8 result in a 7, then

I'll come to 818.9,
which equals 26,
which equals 8.

8 life gr8.

    	You're getting punchy in your final days, eh Meredith?
    
    						Carla
    

    The Princess of York was born at 8:18 on 8.8.88
    
    

    RE: 8-8-88
    
    	I heard on the Radio this morning where a local resident went
    out yesterday and bought 88 lottery tickets.   Out of 88 tickets
    he siad he won  8 dollars!   So much  for numerology.
    

    Re lottery:
    
    The Daily Number in the Massachusetts State Lottery for 8/8/88 was:
    
                                  4 5 6 2
    
    Not an 8 in the bunch.
    
    The Rhode Island number, 2719, didn't have any, either.  The tri-state
    (VT, NH, ME) lottery numbers were 327 9074.  No 8s.
    
    The Connecticut numbers were 549 8318.  Well, they had two out of
    seven.
    
    Not good for betting on 8s.
    
    However, the note number _is_ 818.  That's as close as we can get
    so far to ***.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr. 

RE: .13
    
    Ah but notice that the "Digital Root" (repeated sum of digits or
    remainder when divided by 9) for the Mass. Lottery IS 8.  Since
    I live in Mass. that's the only one that counts :-).
    
    					Topher

    Numerology fasinates me. I am curious about my own birth although
    I do not have the time (is it important?). Would like some opions
    on what is lucky. I bought 67 lottery tickets once when it was 20
    million.....got 3 free tickets....not only was it not lucky but
    probably stupid. Any way.....I was born (DON'T TELL A SOUL!).....
    7-7-43...now I thought always that was lucky because of the 7-7-
    and 43 made 7 and even if you took and added it, it made 21 which
    is suppose to be lucky...now if you take 21=3.....is 3 the lucky
    number? Now on my birthday 7-7-77, which if you fiqure at that time
    I was 34 which also made a 7....you would think that was pretty
    good hey? Well that day was the most uneventfull day of my whole
    life. Now we come to 1988. I am not having a good year at all...in
    fact the worst.....but I HAVE won about 4000.00 at Bingo this year
    which has never happened to me.......now is because it is 88 which
    turns into 16 which reduces to 7......I know.......(I'm having a
    nervous breakdown the way I ramble on)......But can someone tell
    me if all these 7's are good or bad.......plus my other question
    is does anyone know of the how many times or how many people this
    happens to? Or does everyone eventually come to a birthday with
    all the same numbers? Thanks.....This file is fun.......sign me
    a 7!

    
    Re.15 (Lemay)
    
    >...don't tell a soul...
    
    Don't worry, your secret is safe with us!  (heh heh....)
                                            
    
    Re.13 (Steve)
    
    Mass Lottery was 4 5 6 2
    
    4+5+6+2 = 17    1+7=8 !!!!!!!!!!
    
    Cindy

    Re .16 (Cindy):
    
    >Mass Lottery was 4 5 6 2
    >
    >4+5+6+2 = 17    1+7=8 !!!!!!!!!!
     
    Yes, but A=B=C=D=EF  E+F=8 means you have one equation with six
    unknowns and another equation with two.  Difficult to reconstruct
    the original number that way....
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    
    Re.17 (Steve K.)
    
    Oh - you wanted to *win*?!?!
    
    Silly me - I didn't think of that.
    
    (;^)
    
    Cindy

    Re .18 (Cindy):
    
    >Oh - you wanted to *win*?!?!
    
    Actually, I didn't bet.  But according to the people running the
    Massachusetts Lottery, there were more bets placed yesterday than
    usual, and they were laced with 8s.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

    RE: .0 (Steve)
    
    I shall have a birthday on 9/9/99.
    
    Look out world!
    
    
    John M.

    	And I just realized today I'll have a birthday on 10/10/10!  
    	Of course I'll be 47, but hopefully will still have a spark 
    	of life left.  ;-)
    
    						   Carla
    

    
    
    re: original note -
    
    It's actually a decade and a month (since I write this on 8/9) until
    the next numerical redundancy...
    
    Gloria
    

    Re .21
    
    For the occasion, I'll split a case of yogurt with you! ;-)
    
    "Limber Louise"

    
    RE. a few back (Steve K.)
    
    'You' - anyone who was interested in winning based on the number
    8.
    
    Perhaps 'y'all who placed a bet based on the date' might have been 
    a better choice??
             
    (;^)
    
    Cindy

    Hey Carla!
    
    My hubby also has a birthday on 10/10/10!
    
    Small world ....
    
    Susan

    RE:  .25
    
    WOW!  That'll be my hubby's too!
    
    
    Marion

    I HAD a birthday (my 0'th, actually) on 5/15/51 -- or if you prefer,
    in some parts of the world 15/5/51.
    
    					Topher

    re: .25, .26
      
        ...same guy, maybe?
    
    Frederick
    :-)
    

    RE:  .28
    
    OK, Susan, I'll mud wrestle you for him!  ;^D
    
    Marion

    Re .27 ( Topher )
    
    I had a birthday then (15/5/51) too ! My -11th  !!!     (8^)
    
    Dave.
    
    P.S. Think I'll skip the mud wrestling...   

    How about Jello wrestling?  It's much more lady-like!
    
    :^D
    
    Susan

    re: .23 (Mary)
    
    	Coupled with a bottle of Mumms, more bone flexibility has 
    	yet to be seen.  8-D
    
    re: .28 (Frederick)
    
    	Actually, I'm doubling (tripling?) as both Marion's and
    	Susan's husband.
    
    						   Carla
    

    what was my lucky number?

    Re .32 (Carla)
     
    Bet we could really make the Old Guy's front-parlor chandeliers
    swing!  (Century schmentury)

    RE:  .31  WITNES::DONAHUE 
    
    >  How about Jello wrestling?
    
    What flavor?
    
    :^)  Marion

    re: -.1
    
        Since we can't participate, can we watch?  :-)  8-)
    
    Frederick
    

    Re:  Flavor
    
    Why, Raspberry, of course!
    
    (Something about the color red ........)
    
    
    Susan
    

why not make it jell-o pudding and go for chocolate...

    I would but ...
    
    The only use for chocolate is consumption!
    
    Yum!  Off to the candy machine.
    
    Susan

    RE:  chocolate
    
    Nope, can't do it.  There is milk, or milk solids or somthing in
    the stuff.  I am a vegan.  Raspberry it is!  Anybody wanting to
    watch is welcome.  Susan and I will let you know about a price for
    tickets  :^D.
    
    Marion   (who is polishing off her string bee-kee-knee) 
    

    RE: .21 carla
    RE: .25 susan & hubby
    RE: .26 marion & hubby
    
       Yes, it's a plot!!!  The libra's of the world have now infiltrated
    DEC and we plan to take over and make all you non-libra's watch
    Laverne & Shirly re-runs (a fate worse than death!!) Just Kidding!
    
        I *knew* I was going to love this conference!!!!  With all you
    Oct. babies and spouse's of Oct. babies how could we go wrong!
    
        I'll be 47 on 10/10/10 also!  
         
    
                                                   scott
                                                   

    re: .42 (Scott)
    
    	I've never known someone with the exact same birth date as mine!
    	What time were you born?
    
    	Yours in Libran splendor,
    
    						   Carla
    

I'm Libra Rising.  Can I be an honorary of this Happy Libra club?

    RE: .43  (Carla)      Have you ever heard of the dreaded CD syndrome?
    The CD stands for "Calculator Dependency" (aka, CDS).  It seems
    that when I last replied I was feeling 1 year older than neccessary!!
        On 10/10/10, I will be 46.  If you're still curious, I was born
    at 3:something O'clock (had trouble finding birth certificate).
    I know very little about astrology and would welcome any tidbits
    of info. Oh yeah, I've never even met a libra woman, much less one
    with the same birthday!
                                                 Librally yours!
                                                                scott
    P.S. hope the scales are tipping your way!!
       
    RE: .44
            Well, I've *weighed* all the pro's & con's and came to the
    conclusion, "THE MORE, THE MERRIER!!!!!"  Do you concur Carla?
    
                                                     Scott
    P.S. pun intended!!                              
    

    RE: .44
    
    > I'm Libra Rising.  Can I be an honorary of this Happy Libra club?
    <
    
    Of course you can.  I'm sure there'll be many a libra rising at
    your mud wrestling match.
    
    John M.

    
    	i'm a libra somethin' or another.
    my b day (25th) always falls on the same day of the month as xmas!!!
    
    	that should qualify me for something!
    
    	whats this note about, now i'm really confused! :^)

    re: .47
        This note is about having fun!  John Mitchell clearly
    (for me---a Libran) indicated one way I would have fun at 
    this jello gathering...by rising to the occasion!
    
    Frederick
    

Thanks for the membership!  

re; mud wrestling

Chocolate pudding wrestling, complete with whipped cream and, for balance, 
cherries on top.

Meredith_feeling_tipsy (hee hee)

               
    Frederick,
    
    Did you have a flashback of the Indian incarnation just then?  
    
    It sure has been a while.  We must get 'Across A Crowded Room'
    going again.
    
    Cindy  (a.k.a. Crystal Goddess over in the UU Conference)

    	Oh drats, another miscalculation.  How could this possibly
    	have happened?  That's it.  I resign myself to being one of
    	the first contenders in the chocolate pudding wrestling, as
    	long as Meredith's in there too.
    
    						   Carla
    

    I'm sitting here munching a bagel with yummy dairy milk chocolate
    for desert and you're talking about chocolate pudding wrestling.
    
    Okay, I'm in if....there is chocolate sauce at the bottom!
    
    ....dale
    

    	Ask and ye shall receive, Dale.  =8*)
    
    					Carla
    

    Can we put chocolate jimmies on the top, too?
    
    Susan
    
    (Hungrier than ever!)

    re: last few
    
         Can I change my name to Chocolate Sauce?
    
    Frederick (who-in-the-interest-of-getting-to-the-bottom-of-things-
    has-volunteered-to-referee-from-the-bottom-of-either-the-jello-
    or-chocolate-arena-vat)
    [This may sound kinkier than I thought!]
    

re: the weird ones

	Why not top it all off with M&M's; they melt in your mouth
	and not in your hand... ;')

	Terry (who-tried-to-stay-out-of-this-one-but-couldn't-any-longer)

      Don't forget the cherry!!!
    
      Nanci-the-Taurus-who-couldn't-resist    

    
    And whipped creme.  Don't forget the whipped creme!
    
    Yum!  
    
    Cindy

    RE: .57
    
    Oh!!!!
    
    
    RE: others
       
    In the interest of equality, Frederick and I shall mud wrestle three
    rounds.  What say, Frederick?
    
    John M.

    RE.-1 (Mitchell)
    
    John,     
    
    Or perhaps substitute the strange combo of food mentioned so far
    in this note for the mud, and you and Frederick could do a sequel 
    to the original "My Dinner With Andre"?
                          
    I'll volunteer to bring the champagne au natural.   
    
    Cindy

    re: -.1
      
       Gee, what a great offer!  :-]
    
       Actually, John, as nice as you are, I still prefer my
    earlier suggestions.  (Don't take it personally...I'm really
    pretty poor at wrestling, I prefer refereeing)  ;-)
    
    Frederick
    

      Re:  John and Frederick's revival of _My Dinner
    with Andre_.  I prefer the idea of pudding wrestling.
    Reminds me of the cosmic blancmange in Monty Python.
    And so much tastier, too!!!
    
    Nanci

I would like to point out in all good-heartedness that in an earlier note, 
whipped cream and cherries were definitely included.  Looks like we've got some 
NUTS, too... hee hee hee!

    	>I resign myself to being one of
    	>the first contenders in the chocolate pudding wrestling, as
    	>long as Meredith's in there too.

:-} Rarareetie, I'll be the one wearing brown. reeree!rere

    	And I'll be the one wearing nothing.  (Heh Heh Heh)
    
    	OK, John M., see you in the pit you Washingtonian you.
    
    					     Carla
    

>John M., see you in the pit you Washingtonian you.

He may be a Washingtonian, but he left his heart in San Francisco.  Maybe we 
should go there and wrestle in rice-a-roni pudding.  A real San Francisco treat.

BTW, sweets are very Libran.  ;-)

    RE: .61
    
    I'd much prefer the wrestling to "My Dinner With Andre."
    
    I *HATED* that movie!!!  Hated, I tell you!
    
    If you have some problem with that, send in a double.  Topher springs
    to mind, as we rarely agree.
    
    John M.

    Don't y'all wonder how far we can take this note?
    
    John M.  ;-)

This note could be brought back to the purpose of Dejavu by agreeing
to wrestle in ectoplasam - a real paranormal event....

First one slimed loses.

Terry

Where do I get tickets for this event??!?!?

I wanna be in da front row!

Jay

    re: .65
       
        Carla, as I seem to remember, that color suits you very well.
      
        Maybe everyone can match your colors?  And, um, what pit will
    you be seen in?  
    
    Frederick (who-loves-the-quiver-in-pudding, too!)
    

    Well, if we're going to be wrestling in ectoplasm instead of jello
    or pudding, I want Bill Murray as my tag team partner!
    
    I'm ready for the mainevent!  :^)
    
    (Amazing how far we WILL take this on a Friday!)
    
    Susan

    S.D. PINION
    Professional Mud/Pudding/Ectoplasm Wrestling Photographer
    Reasonable Rates!!  "Have Zoom Will Travel" (no event too strange)

    
    Oooo!!! Pictures!!!  This could go on our _Permenant
      Records_!
    
    <;^)> Nanci

       RE: .74    -< Future Blackmail??? >-
             *Blackmail*??? ME???   Now, Nanci you know that wouldn't
    be good for my Karma!!!
              

    P.S. I know the basics, but what does this <;^)> mean?
     
                                                            scott ;-)

    I guess I need to get in on this too. I'm pure Libra. Sometimes
    I even amaze myself when I get something done. (10-6-55)

    re: .71
    
    	Memories of a past life, Frederick?  ;-)
    
    						Carla
    

    Re: .75
    
    It's a winking leer ala W.C. Fields, of course.
    
    Nanci

    re: .78
    
         I don't know how fatal it is, but bumping into you, whether
    in a vat filled with jello or pudding or maybe even in some other
    lifetime, is always a most sensuous and pleasure-filled experience.
    
    Frederick (co-star of Death Wish 7)
    :-)  8-) 8-)  8-D 8-D  
    

    RE: Carla, Frederick and y'all,                     
    
    Ooooooo!  What do you think - any money to be made off writing
    metaphysical fantasies?  We've got an awfully good start here.
    
    We could even publish in "New Age Journal", "Clarion Call" or any
    number of NA publications.   
    
    Perhaps this deserves a topic of its own.  As was said before, 'You
    wanna talk gooey.....'.  Now here's your chance!  (;^)
    
    Cindy

Didn't they use beans in _TOMMY_ , all over that nice, white bedroom??

    Cindy,
    
    Yes, they did.  I'll never forget Ann-Margaret (whose hair had
    never before been seen out of place) rolling around in that
    awful glop.
    
    Nanci-who-gags-at-the-sight-of-baked-beans

    
    Nanci, that was Meredith!
    
    As for the beans...yuck!

    Sorry, it was the end of the day on a Monday.
    What can I say?  
    
    Nanci

    
    
    I'll be at the Ecto-jello Wrestling match vending my new invention,
    
    ECTO-POPS!!!
    
    Of course, they will be Boo-berry flavored!
              
    
    Guy_who_is_too_late_as_usual.
    
    

For those of you who wanted to wrestle in Jell-O because it's vegetarian...

Gelatin contains lard.  You won't read it on the Jell-O label, but you will 
read the ingredient, "gelatin".

So what is it?  Jell-O Gelatin, pudding, certainly not beans...

Frozen yoghurt??  ooooooooh send a chill up my spine

tee hee, just kidding...

(Guy, thanks for bringing it up again!)
Meredith

    re-.1
    It(jell-o) is also mostly made from animal parts.
              
    -j
    

    Gelatin is made by boiling animal hooves and hide for extended periods.
    It is mostly composed of the protein collagen, with some elastin.
    
    Vegetarians can use agar-agar which is made from a sea vegetable.
    
    John M.

    re .89 (John):
    
    >Vegetarians can use agar-agar which is made from a sea vegetable.
    
    Haven't they just shortened that to "agar"?  "Agar-agar" sounds
    like something you'd hear from an antique auto.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    re .88 (John) .89 (Steve):
    
    >> Vegetarians can use agar-agar which is made from a sea vegetable.
    
    >  Haven't they just shortened that to "agar"?  "Agar-agar" sounds
    >  like something you'd hear from an antique auto.
    
    He was a corporal on 'F Troop', not a sea vegetable.  ;-)

    Terry

    I believe the vegetable came to be named in this way:
    
    Two divers were swimming in the ocean one day, when one of them
    spotted a strange sea vegetable. He asked his friend what it was
    but, being an ichthyologist, his friend thought the man was pointing
    to a nearby fish and replied,
    
    "It's a gar!  A gar!"
    
    
    John M.  ;-)

    re:  last couple
    
       And when they harvested this plant, let it dry out and sit around
    for a while, along came Paco and pointed to Domino (who had by this
    time stuck it into his mouth and was proceeding to light it with
    a nearby blazing torch) and yelled to Tobat, "See, Gar in mouth...
    see, gar!"  Whereby all the villagers made a big pasta dinner and
    lived happily ever after.
    
    Frederick
    

                                                        
    Yay!!!!!
    
    I just LOVE happy endings!!!!!!!!
    
    Cindy
    
    P.S.  Do you know how the Genesee River got its name?
                                          
          Oh, OK, I'll tell you then.
    
          Well, there was this expedition and there was this girl
          named Jenny who was the daughter of the of the person 
          leading the expedition.  They hiked up to the top of a
          mountain, looked over the valley below where this was this
          river, and Jenny's dad said, "Look Jenny, see river!"
    
          My high school mech. drafting teacher told us that one.
          We all threw our drawings at him as fast as we could get
          them untaped (CAD/CAM didn't exist back them).

re: .94 (Cindy)
    
          > named Jenny who was the daughter of the of the person 

          > mountain, looked over the valley below where this was this

     Did you know you're keyboard has a bad studder??? ;-)

     Terry

    re: .95 (Terry)
    
    	  > Did you know you're keyboard has a bad stutter??? ;-)
    
    Did you know your keyboard spuriously punctuates?! 8-)
    
    Brian

"This little keyboard went to market..."

Reduced to absurdity,
Meredith

    re: .27,  Topher,
    
    Well, what a day!! I was born 5/15/51 as well.  I was born
    in Muskegon, Michigan, at 10:00AM (approx).  Where and at what time
    were you born?  I've never known anyone born on the exact same day
    as me before.  This feels kind of special! :-).
                                   
    Jill
    
    p.s. My folks always wanted to name me "Topher", now I know why!!
    ;-) ;-) ;-)

    re: last
    
    Shouldn't we check for similarities and coincidences and stuff?
    
    Jill
    

RE: .98,.99 (Jill)
    
    I was born in Manhattan, sometime in the morning (my parent's gave
    somewhat contradictory answers to my questions for greater specificity,
    and my one attempt to obtain a birth certificate ended in a maze
    of bureaucracy).
    
    I was distinctly blond as a toddler, darkened to "dirty blond" as
    a child, and now my hair is distinctly brown in color.  My beard
    and mustache, however, are a mixture of brown, red and blond hairs
    (I won't ask what color your beard is :-).  My eyes are hazel
    (when you can make them out through my coke-bottle eye glasses).
    Such aspects of a person are probably principally guided by
    heredity rather than astrology.  At best, astrology might be
    expected to modulate the existing hereditary factors.
    
    As far as personality is concerned, I'll let DEJAVUers judge whether
    or not I am stubborn (I rather suspect the answer is yes), but then
    that is supposed to be a characteristic of any Taurian, isn't it?
    (to the extent that the sun sign makes a difference by itself).
    
    					Topher

re: .100, Topher,

<    I was distinctly blond as a toddler, darkened to "dirty blond" as
<    a child, and now my hair is distinctly brown in color.  My beard
<    and mustache, however, are a mixture of brown, red and blond hairs
<    (I won't ask what color your beard is :-).  My eyes are hazel
<    (when you can make them out through my coke-bottle eye glasses).
<    Such aspects of a person are probably principally guided by
<    heredity rather than astrology.  At best, astrology might be
<    expected to modulate the existing hereditary factors.
 
	I had white-blond hair as a child which has settled down to a
	more normal blond color.  My eyes are blue and I, too, wear
	glasses but would love not to.  I agree that hereditary has
	more to do with the physical appearance than anything else.
   
<    As far as personality is concerned, I'll let DEJAVUers judge whether
<    or not I am stubborn (I rather suspect the answer is yes), but then
<    that is supposed to be a characteristic of any Taurian, isn't it?
<    (to the extent that the sun sign makes a difference by itself).

	Are there any astrologers out there who would be willing and
	able to pinpoint any characteristics that Topher and I would
	be likely to share other than the obvious Taurean ones?  It
	seems that with the two births so relatively close in time
	(notwithstanding the difference from one side of the time
	zone to the other), we should have some similarities that are
	easy to spot.

	As far as my personality goes, I guess I'm fairly easy-going,
	more of a follower than a leader but have been delegated to or
	assumed leadership positions rather easily (that means, when I
	feel there is a need for it), take events a bit too personally
	to feel comfortable with it any longer, and love to laugh and
	enjoy myself.  When faced with problems, I tend to analyze them
	or figure out a logical answer and I can be nit-picky to the
	max!

	Jill