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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

693.0. "Strange Dream!" by AOHM::JACOBS (Remember the Future) Tue Apr 05 1988 16:05

I had a strange experience the other night. I had been meditating and using 
self hypnosis to try to remember my dreams. I have never had much success in 
dreaming but a "Lucid Dreaming" tape I recently purchased kind of 
re-kindled my interest, so there I was doing my thing. Anyway I finished 
around 1:00 am and went to bed. 
	Just before 2:00am I had a dream that woke me. In this dream I was 
driving down a "country" type road when I saw a military aircraft, upside 
down, heading to earth a little further up ahead of me. I knew it was going to 
crash. I drove toward the crash site and stopped before the wreckage. 
Another car passed me and skidded sideways to a  stop slightly ahead of me. 
A young man got out of the car visibly shaken. I told him we could proceed 
toward the crash but he was reluctant because he thought there would be a 
lot of casualties. I told him it was a fighter plane with only one or two 
people on board so that wouldn't be likely. The dream got a little strange 
after that and I remember thinking as I passed through the wreckage that 
there could be a contamination problem from nuclear weapons on the ship 
being damaged in the crash.
	Imagine my surprise when I heard on the today show the next morning 
that a military jet (F16?) crashed in a village in Germany that night. I have 
been looking in the papers to see what time it crashed but have not been able 
to find this information.

Does anybody have any further info on the accident? Like when it happened? 
Were there weapons on board? I know the News said it was a training flight 
but it is unlikely that they would say there were H-bombs on board, bad for 
the image...

Thanks
Paul
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693.3Lucid Dreaming TapeAOHM::JACOBSRemember the FutureThu Apr 07 1988 10:467
    The tape is called "Lucid Dreaming" done by the author of the book
    by the same name, which escapes me right now, as my mind dismounts
    such stuff during "normal" working hours. I will try to check the
    author tonight. 
    The tape is instructional as opposed to subliminal.

    Pau
693.4A little psychicCSCMA::SNOWThu Apr 07 1988 13:272
    It could of been some type of psychic connection...It does happen
    but some people are not aware of it..
693.5Am I dreaming?AKOV77::PARSONSThu Apr 07 1988 15:5823
    I don't know if I'm dreaming or if this really happens.   Many
    times I have woken up and seen the figure of a person standing in
    my room.  I'm not afraid of this person, but I don't particularly
    like him/her standing there watching me sleep.  I sometimes stare
    at the spot where I see the figure and once I'm convinced I think
    somebody is there, I flip over and turn on the light as fast as
    I can (which can be rather difficult sometimes in a waterbed). 
    Once I've done that, the figure/person is gone and then I easily
    go back to sleep.   It happened once when my SO was with me and
    I even asked him if he saw what I saw, he didn't even wake up until
    I got the light on and _then_ he asked what I was doing.  There was
    one time in particular when I opened my eyes and this figure/person
    was standing right by my bed.  That time I was really frightend
    and reached out and got that light on really fast..  Usually my
    heart is beating a mile a minute after I get that light on... 
    
    A friend of mine told me that if I tell "it" to go away it might
    work... I've tried this and it worked for a while, but it still
    happens once in a great while.  
    
    Any ideas?  Am I dreaming?  
                                                              
    	Spooked, Judy
693.6?Aliens?TOOPHE::FIKEFri Apr 08 1988 14:0113
                              -< Am I dreaming? >-

>    I don't know if I'm dreaming or if this really happens.   Many
>   times I have woken up and seen the figure of a person standing in
>   my room.  I'm not afraid of this person, but I don't particularly
>   like him/her standing there watching me sleep.  


Interesting.... I just finished a book titled "communion" written as
nonfiction in which the author talks about being visited by "aliens"
and he tells of many experiences he had that sound identical to what you
describe. Not that you're being visited by aliens but you might like the
book anyway. 
693.7insufficient dataMARKER::KALLISWhy is everyone getting uptight?Fri Apr 08 1988 14:2521
    Re .5 (Judy):
    
    >A friend of mine told me that if I tell "it" to go away it might
    >work... I've tried this and it worked for a while, but it still
    >happens once in a great while.  
    >
    >Any ideas?  Am I dreaming?  
     
    Well, there are a few possibilities.
    
    One is that you're indeed dreaming.  In that case, "waking up" to
    turn on the light would make the figure go away.
    
    A second is that "it" is some sort of supernatural manifestation.
    Some of these are reputedly driven off by light.
    
    A third is that it's some sort of telepathically projected image.
    Then, turning on the light would "overload" your vision and blank
    it out.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
693.8things that go kaboom in the nightFRSBEE::STOLOSFri Apr 08 1988 15:3420
    re:5
    When i shared my bedroom with my brother, he's had this same
    experience. We shared an L shaped bedroom, and the first
    few time it happened my brother Nick thought it was me up
    late puttering around my section of the room, till once he said 
    it was bothering him that I was doing these pranks. The figure
    he would see was about 3 to 4 feet tall. and would be seen
    standing at the foot of his bed. He never could make out 
    features because we both read enough ufo book we would
    call it the "humanoid".  At the time I told him that I
    thought it was "low blood sugar levels" that you have when 
    you first wake up. I do recall fearful impressions the last night
    this appearance happened. Also these appearance would always
    happen between 1 and 4 in the morning.
    My brother is a very level headed software engineer type, one reason
    why I think it was something other than low blood sugar levels was
    that one night there was the sound of a large explosion in our
    bedroom, I heard it from another section of the house and Nick 
    was in the room at the time. We think it was a poltergist event.
    Pete
693.9JUST ASK....WAGON::BISHOPTue Apr 19 1988 14:0366
    RE:  .5
    
    I would like to share an experience that is similar to what seems
    to be happening to you and how I was able to deal with it.
    
    There is a little history here, so please excuse my long windedness.
    I was born in Germany and lived many years with a Great Aunt who
    I became very very fond of.  When I was 5, my mother and I came
    to the U.S.  My Aunt was very upset about my leaving but she would
    write to my mother and keep up with how I was doing.
    
    Time passes, and so does my Aunt.  I had become a mother myself
    and my daughter was about 5 years old.  All my life I had "special"
    feelings, dreams, etc. but when I tried to speak to my mother about
    that she would tell me they came from the "devil" -- and stop it.
    Well, most of us know from experience that you just can't stop it,
    it is too much like eating or breathing. Anyway, I seemed to connect
    to a group of people who also had these "feelings" and were willing
    to speak and test them.  One night we were "testing" telepathy and
    during the experiment, one of the people in the group started to
    go into some sort of instant trance.  I got pretty frightened
    (remember, my mother had **told** me where this stuff comes from!)
    and tried to change the energy that had formed in the room. (Lights
    on, coffee anyone?) A bottle that we had used as a primary focus
    in the center of the room (covered) had filled with a sort of moisture
    that could not logically be explained away.  Along with that, my
    best friend started speaking in german (her background was french
    canadian - no german ever!) Ok, now I knew my mother was right and
    I decided to go home and check out our experiment of telepathy on
    my husband - I was to call the group back and give results.  All
    the way home I felt like something was in the car with me. 
    
    I checked our experiment and called them with the results.  Even
    though we tested "positive", they seemed more concerned that I was
    ok, because "something" had left with me.  One of the group even
    "saw" a black crow on my shoulder.  I tried in vain to sleep that
    night, that energy was still in my room.  About 4:30 am, I finally
    decided to speak to it - and I asked if it was my aunt, and if it
    was I knew she would not want to frighten me, so could she please
    find another way to get me the message. Immediately the energy was
    gone and I slept.
    
    The next day, even exhausted, I went to see my mother and talk to
    her about the experience.  This time she was not so hesitant.  I
    asked her what a black crow meant - she finally told me that in
    Germany, my aunt had been a key member in a Wicca group, and their
    particular symbol was the crow.  She had also gone looking in some
    old papers that particular day and out of the center had dropped
    a letter, written in german by my aunt the day we left for America.
    The letter (which I have to this day) was full of love and hope
    for me and told me that no matter how tough times got, she woudl
    be there for me.  Mother had never seen that letter before - after
    20 years and 2 house moves.
    
    The following months my life found me at the "bottom floor", but
    somehow, whenever I needed help it came through.  Who knows, maybe
    promises can be kept from the other side.
    
    Anyway, this is a true story -- Why I present it to you is to show
    you how I finally "asked" it to give me the message in a less
    frightening way.  It seems to me that if this energy is around you
    so much, it may also be looking to give you a message.
    
    I hope this has helped.
    
    Dawna