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Title:Psychic Phenomena
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Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
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655.0. "Dr. John Lilly's Levels of Consciousness" by NEXUS::MORGAN (Heaven - a perfectly useless state.) Sun Feb 14 1988 23:41

        All  of  this  material  came  from  Dr.    John    Lilly's    Book
    _The_Center_of_the_Cyclone_.  It has some interesting stuff I though I'd
    share with  the  participants of this file.  I don't agree with much of
    it but somethings really appealed to me.

                                 Beliefs Unlimited

        In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true either is
    true or  becomes true within certain limits, to be found experimentally
    and experientially.  These limits are beliefs to be transcended.
    
        Hidden  from  one's  self  is a covert set of beliefs that  control
    one's thinking, one's actions, and one's feelings.
    
        The covert set of hidden beliefs is the limiting set  of beliefs to
    be transcended.
    
        To transcend one's limiting set, one establishes and open ended set
    of beliefs about the unknown.
    
        The unknown exists in  one's  goals for changing one's self, in the
    means of changing, in the  use  of  others  for  the  change,  in one's
    capacity  to  change,  in one's orientation  toward  change,  in  one's
    elimination of hindrances to change, in one's  assimilation of the aids
    to change, in one's use of the impulse  to  change,  in the form of the
    change itself, and in the substance of change and of changing.

        The unknown exists in one's goals for changing one's  self,  in the
    means  of  changing,  in  the use of others for the  change,  in  one's
    capacity  to  change,  in  one's  orientation  toward  change, in one's
    elimination of  hindrances to change, in one's assimilation of the aids
    to change, in  one's  use  of the impulse to change, in the form of the
    change itself, and in the substance of change and of changing.
    
        There are unknowns in my goals toward changing.  There are unknowns
    in my means for  changing.    There  are  unknowns in my relations with
    others in changing.  There  are  unknown  in  my capacity for changing.
    There  are unknowns in my orientations  toward  changing.    There  are
    unknowns in my assimilation of changes.  There are unknowns in the form
    into which changing will put me.  There  are  unknowns in the substance
    of changes that I will undergo, in my substance after changes.
    
        My  disbelief in these unknowns is a limiting belief, preventing my
    transcending my  limits.    My  disbelief  in  all  these unknowns is a
    belief, a limiting belief, preventing my transcending my limits.
    
        By allowing, there are  no limits, no limits to thinking, no limits
    to feeling, no limits to  movement.    By allowing there are no limits.
    There are no limits to thinking,  no  limits to thinking, no limits to
    movement.
        
        That  which  is not allowed is forbidden.  That which  is  allowed,
    exists.   In allowing no limits, there are no limits.   That  which  is
    forbidden is no allowed.  That which is not allowed is forbidden.  That
    which is  exists  is  allowed.    That  which  is  allowed, exists.  In
    allowing no limits,  there  are  no limits.  That which is forbidden is
    not allowed.  That  which is exists is allowed.  That which is allowed,
    exists.  To allow no limits there are no limits.  No limits allowed, no
    limits exist.
        
        In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true either is
    true or becomes true.  In the province of the mind there are no limits.
    In  the province of the mind, what one believes to be  true  either  is
    true or becomes true.  There are no limits.

        John Lilly likes to refer to things he has experienced in  computer
    like  terms.    His writings indicate that he thinks that there are  a
    multiplicity  of  programmers  working  for  the  big  Programmer,  all
    programming  the Cosmic Computer (universe).  Now this  programming  is
    not the kind we normally consider as programming.   His  term refers to
    creative action that leads to more creative action, the chicken and the
    egg.   This creative action follows divine laws or paths of  allowance.
    Programming is the (Etic) way the universe works and metaprogramming is
    our (emic)  interpretation  of  those  programs and a re/application of
    them in other parts of our lives.
        
        The programs of John's cosmic computer are as follows:
        
        1.  Holy Law - the limits within  which  we  work,  think, feel and
    are;  it is a shining program boundary around  our  operational  space.
    (The specs for the OS.)
        2.  Perfection  -    the    computer  doing  perfect  programs  and
    programming perfectly all being, all matter, all consciousness.
        3.  Holy  Work  -  our  activity,  our  being,  the  Creators,  the
    Programmers.
        4.  Freedom -  doing  the  operations  with  joy within our defined
    limits.  We are free  of  being  within  the  computer,  free to do the
    programming, free to be metaprogrammed by God's Will.
        5.  Holy Love - what  we  receive,  is  what  we  give as we do out
    perfect  thing.    As  we  are  linked,    so    we    are   loved  and
    love--objectively, realized, essentially, purely.
        6.    Omniscience  -  a  sure transparent knowledge  of  the  whole
    transparent computer, who runs it, who runs us, the  group;   knowledge
    of the void out of which all this came; the links with the void.
        7.  Sobriety - inside the operations is that state  of  us  that is
    reverence,  love,  staying  within  known  limits.  There is a lack  of
    fantasy about truth. There is knowing truth directly.
        8.  Equanimity - a very high state in which everything is  balanced
    in supreme joy, and functions are smoothly done with others;  the power
    of the cosmos flows through us.
        9.   Holy  Truths  - all of this plus God Himself is the truth with
    certitude.
        10.  Veracity - I live my truths fully, truly.
        11.  Courage  - There is no sign of doubt or fear of minus 3;  I am
    sustained by my strength, our strength.
        12.  Detachment -  being  one  of  the  programmers  outside of the
    cosmic computer, programming it as  it  needs programming, objectively,
    realistically, in tune with the creative flow.
        13.  Innocence - the innocence  of  childhood,  accepting  what  is
    happening  with  dedication and without question--being in  the  cosmic
    group without question.
        
        
    This is a summary of Dr. John Lilly's levels of consciousness as
    written up in his book _The_Center_of_the_Cyclone_.
     
    Gurdjieff   States          Samadhi     Description
    Vibration   of Cons-        Level
    Level       sciousness
    ---------   ----------      -------     ----------------------------------
    3           +3              Dharma-     Making the Ma'hdi. Classical
                                Megha       Satori. Fusion with universal mind,
                                Samadhi     union with God, being one of the
                                            creators of energy from the void,
                                            in the Ma'h center above the head.
                
    6           +6              Sasmita-    Making the Buddha. A point
                                nir bija    source of consciousness,
                                            energy, light and love. Point
                                            of consciousness, astral
                                            travel, traveling
                                            clairaudience, traveling
                                            clairvoyance, fusion with other
                                            entities in time. In the Path
                                            mental center of the head.
                                        
    12          +12             Sananda     Blissful state, making the
                                            Christ, the green quatub
                                            realization of Baraka, the
                                            reception of divine grace,
                                            cosmic love, cosmic energy,
                                            heightened bodily awareness,
                                            highest function of planetside
                                            consciousness, being in love,
                                            being in a positive LSD energy
                                            state. In the Oth emotional
                                            center in the chest.
    
    24          +24             Vicara      The level of professional
                                            satori or of basic satori. All
                                            the needed programs arre in the
                                            unconscious of the biocomputer,
                                            operating smoothly, the self is
                                            lost in pleasurable activities
                                            that one knows best and likes
                                            to do. In the Kath moving
                                            center in the lower belly.
    
    48          +-48                        The neutral biocomputer state,
                                            the state for the absorption
                                            and transmission of new ideas;
                                            for the reception and
                                            transmission of new data and
                                            new programs; doing teaching
                                            and learning with maximum
                                            facilitation, neither in a
                                            positive or negative state,
                                            neutral, on the earth. 
    
    96          +-24                        Negative state, pain, guilt,
                                            fear. Doing what one has to do
                                            but in a state of pain, guilt
                                            or fear; the state of slightly
                                            too much alcohol; of a small
                                            amount of opium; of the first
                                            stages of lack of sleep.
    
    192         -12                         Extremely negative body state
                                            where one is still in the body
                                            as in an intense migraine
                                            attack, in which ones
                                            consciousness is shrunk down
                                            and inhibited and the awareness
                                            is only in the presence of ones
                                            pain. The pain is such that one
                                            cannot work or do ones usual
                                            duties. A limitation is place
                                            upon oneself. one is isolated,
                                            a bad inner state.
    
    384         -6                          Similar to +6 except that it is
                                            extremely negative. A purgatory
                                            like situation in which one is
                                            only a point source of
                                            consciousness and energy; fear,
                                            pain, guilt in the extreme,
                                            meaninglessness is prominent.
    
    768         -3                          Like +3 in that one is fused
                                            with other entities through
                                            the universe but these are all
                                            bad and one's self is bad an
                                            meaningless. This is the
                                            quintessence of evil, the
                                            deepest hell of which one can
                                            conceive. This can be an
                                            extremely high energy state
                                            lasting eternally, though by
                                            the planetside clock one is
                                            there for only a few minutes.
                                            No hope in this state. No hope
                                            of escape from it. One is there
                                            forever.
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655.1How to handle new systems, new spacesNEXUS::MORGANHeaven - a perfectly useless state.Mon Feb 15 1988 00:0529
        Here are  some  interesting  suggestions  from Dr.  John concerning
    what to do  when  confronted  with  new  space.    This  formula allows
    skepticism and belief.
        
        1.  Examine whatever one can of  where the new spaces are, what the
    basic beliefs are to go there.
        
        2.  Take the basic beliefs of that new area as true.
        
        3.    Go  into  the  area  fully  aware,  in  high  energy, storing
    everything, no  matter  how  neutral,  how ecstatic, or how painful the
    experiences become.
        
        4.  Come back here, to our best of consensus realities, temporarily
    shedding those basic beliefs of the new area and taking on those of the
    investigator  impartially  dispassionately  objectively  examining  the
    recorded experiences and data.
        
        5.  Test one's current models  of this consensus reality.  (I think
    here Lilly is referring to the reality outside of the new space.)
        
        6.  Construct a model that includes this reality and the new one in
    an more inclusive succinct way.  No matter  how  painful such revisions
    of the models are be sure they include both realities.
        
        8.  Do  not  worship,  revere,  or  be afraid of any person, group,
    space or reality.   An  investigator, an explorer, has no room for such
    baggage.
655.2Oh, yeah. I forgot to ask...NEXUS::MORGANHeaven - a perfectly useless state.Mon Feb 15 1988 00:071
    Comments?