Conference hydra::dejavu

    Funny you should mention that.  I was just telling someone yesterday
    that some pretty strange things seem to be happening lately.

    	I had a dream last night, being in a more-or-less typical 
    convenience store...except they had two HUGE crystals in it. I mean,
    a terminated quartz the size of a refrigerator pointing up, in one
    aisle, and in back of it in the next aisle an amethyst hanging from a
    hook, pointing down that was as tall, though a little thinner than
    a typical person.
    
    	I stood in front of the quartz for a while, and was awed.
    
    -------------------------
    
    	I have no idea what it means, and I've forgotten the rest of
    the dream. 
    
    	I continue to feel mostly frantic these days. Money has never
    been so tight, and I'm just praying for something to happen so I
    don't have to go to my parents or grandparents. We need a place
    to live, though we may have found something last night. And I'm
    coming more and more to the realization that I'm not terribly good
    at the job I'm doing. I've talked to my manager about it some. I
    think I need to be even more clear.
    
    	Can you say 'Stress'? I know I can!
    
    	So we're having a party on Saturday. Send me mail for details.
    We have some friends staying for the 16th-17th, and I figured the
    day before would be a nice time to gather people who might be
    interested in talking about it, or whatever. Music jam too. BYO
    food and drink. In the afternoon, to early evening.
    
    	Ed
    
    	

    	Edgar Cayce talked some about the history of our planet, and
    Atlantis, when he did readings for people.   He spoke about
    the "Children of the Law of One" as well as their enemies "the
    Sons of Belial".   The Sons of Belial were said to have conducted
    the experiments that caused the sinking of Atlantis.
    
    	This might be related to the reference you read about "the children
    of the dark..."
    	Alan.

    re: .2 
    At Steve McFaddens lecture on the Harmonic Convergence, he asked
    anyone who felt an incredible amount of stress lately to raise their
    hands....every hand in the room went up.  I've heard others mention
    the undue amount of stress and anxiety in the lives now, and how
    it seems to be building up.  There are those who feel that this
    is a side effect of what seems to be happening.  ...Hang in there..
    and (you are quite correct).. the best solution to stress is a
    party_:-).
    
    I've heard several references to The Children Of The Dark of late...
    and to the rapidly increasing amount of chaos in the world today.
    Things seem to be coming to a head.
    

    re: .4
    
    I would like very much to meet Steve McFadden. Also I was in Fitchburg
    once a short while back and got lost. Every time I tried to finf
    my way to this certain home, I ALWAYS wound up at the JOYA (sp?)
    bookstore. 
    
    For quite a long time I have been trying to perrfect the ability
    to travel in spirit. The times I have, I could verify scientifically.
    So I know this is possible. Also the abilty to see/hear beyond the
    veil that seperates the material from the physical seems to be pressing
    upon me greatly. These are some ofthe extra-ordinary things that
    have been happening tome over the last 6-8 months ... increasing
    severely thai last week. Is there ssomeone I can talk to to or some
    structured envirnment that I can attend in order to learn how to
    develop these gifts??
    
    Also I too have been feeling inordinate amounts of stress. Though
    I attribute this to my recent divorce and .. having moved back with
    my parents for a while, the resolution of 20 years of negative
    communication between myself and my father. Yet the stress I feel
    is also being generated for seemingly no reason. You know, like when
    you see a beautiful flower and then you cry. This isn't like me.
                                                              
    So if any of you out there find yourselves reacting to an every
    day thing with emotions that seem like a roller coaster ride, don't
    be surprised! 
                                                              
    Len

    
    JUMPING BUTTERBALLS! please forgive the spelling in .5... :-}

    Next time you get lost in Fitchburg and wind up at Joya's (must
    be an omen)Len ...stop in and see me.  
    
    I volunteer there on Saturdays (not this Saturday
    though...this Saturday is special).  There are classes, workshops,
    and lectures that may be of assistance to you available in several
    places besides Joya's,.. Interface offers them, Spring Hill in Ashby
    offers them, and I know there are other resources too.  A search
    of other notes in this conference should turn up some good
    possibilities as well.  
    Take care

    
    I was just reading all the references to added stress at this
    particular time, and thought that I might have been left out.  Then
    I realized that I'd been through an incredible amount of stress
    within the last few weeks (though not work-related), but at the
    same time, I'm no longer afraid of whatever the outcome of the
    particular situations will be because it feels like it will all
    be for the best......even though it didn't seem like it and was
    difficult to live through at the time.  Hope this makes sense -
    hard to condense 2 months worth of experiences into a summary.
    
    Cindy

    Yup, me, too--
    
    "Amplification of talents" is a great phrase for what's happening,
    too.  In another note (418?) I mentioned my renewed interest in
    writing, and a desire to study/research some new areas, and a general
    feeling of euphoria and "I can do ANYTHING!".  I have begun to work
    with crystals, and have had results already.  I am even seeing other
    people in a whole new way;  one that is allowing me to slowly stop
    judging and start working on my own life and problem areas.  I'm
    finding it a bit easier to forgive and forget, and also to give
    myself a break.  I do notice a lot of energy, and a lot of
    positiveness.  
    
    If Shirley MacLaine is right about Higher Selves, then the potential
    is in all of us to love and be loved.
    
    Be thinking of us all this weekend, folks,
    
    Janie

    Regarding more stress right now, no that hasn't been happening.
    In fact all I have gotten is an expansion in my horizons.  After
    five years of feeling that I was in a cultural vacuum in my work
    situation, I've found this great notes conference (thanks Mike)
    and now know I'm not alone out here.  I'll be sitting in my favorite
    space this weekend greeting the sun in true pagan fashion feeling
    the magic of the world.

    I know I have answered this before.  The doctor's surgery where
    I have acupuncture, aura channelling, etc and where I was last night
    for some acupuncture was unbelievable.  The tension in that centre
    was very strong.  I was talking to the receptionist and she was
    saying how everybody was really quite stressed - these are all
    enlightened people, but they were all feeling it.
    
    Here was I thinking the pollution level was affecting my asthma
    and I had developed a twitch in my eye, my nails were peeling, I
    was losing my voice because of the weather.  I have five days in
    which to find a new home and I thought I really wasn't worried about
    it.  Guess what..... 
    
    Even the drivers are more aggressive - so it is a very trying time,
    Everybody (not just the enlightened) are commenting on the stress
    levels.
    
    Some people have organised a giant Rainbow Sand Serpent and we will
    be at the beach at sunrise for some meditation and to start building
    this serpent.
    
    Be feeling you all this weekend and have a great one.
    
    ....dale

    I have noticed a DISTINCT amplification of talent lately.

    Doctor, Doctor - will I be able to play the violin after the H. C.???
    
    
    Talk about amplification of talent!

    re .13:
    
    >Doctor, Doctor - will I be able to play the violin after the H. C.???
    
    No, but you'll be able to play the electric guitar.
    _That_ uses an amplifier.
    
    
    :-P
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    NOW .... that we are all a tad removed from H.C. Superstar .....
     
    what if I told you New Agers (moi too!) that i had two visions
    that Sunday morning, and,believe them to have been a real occurence?
    
    Did anyone else experience anything like this??
    
    Samurai Writer
    

    
    I haven't has 'visions' per se, but during the last week I've had
    quite a bit of incredible insights 'pop into my thoughts'.
    
    Cindy

    re: .15 
    What were they?  ... (how did I miss that note?) ... don't leave
    us all hanging!

    Hi.
         Can you say, "Placebo effect."?  I knew that you could.
    I would like to suggest this as a possibility.  I've got some sus-
    pension of disbelief going here, but it's limited.
         Actually I do think belief in possibility does have an effect
    on actual possibility.  There are even "scientific" explanations
    for such effects.
         You see, nobody ever spoke to me in the form of burning bush,
    so when it comes right down to it, I would be shocked out of my
    socks if anything really out of the ordinary happened.  I'm more
    open to the possibility that the Pats could go to the superbowl,
    because I've actually experienced that.  Sometimes I'm glad we die
    because, for me, that's really out of the ordinary.
         I hope something interesting is going on, but I haven't person-
    ally noticed anything out of the ordinary lately.  That's information
    too.
    
                                             Mike

RE: .18
    
    Can you say "patronizing"?  Can you say "rude"?  Can you say
    "obnoxious"?  Oh that really is too bad.  Maybe if you try as hard
    as you can and keep practicing you'll be able to say some of these
    words, and perhaps make a real contribution to this conference.
    
    					Topher
    

    There is a lot of reasons why people doubt and question the facts
    discussed within this conference.  I also agree that the Placebo
    effect is a result of "Positive Thinking", and there are other areas
    within this conference where, shall we say, I have my doubts.
    Just because someone does not agree completely with your perspectives
    doesn't mean the person is being rude.
    
    As to the topic of this note, I have also noticed an increasing amount
    of "activity" in my life.  It's hard to say how much is directly
    responsible to me getting myself motivated again, but there is a lot
    happening that I don't have control over.  Let's just say that I'm
    starting to live an exciting life again, and it looks like the fall
    will be as interesting as the summer. 

    If he was acting like a "nice man" I wouldn't have stuck the knife
    in there in the first place.  If you read my note I was disagreeing
    with *how* he said what he said, not with what he said.  Roughly
    speaking, I agree with what he was saying (though I think that he
    was saying a lot less than I suspect he thought he was saying).  If
    there seemed to be a knife involved in what I said, it was sharpened
    by my using the same patronizing tone as he chose to use (it was a
    long day and I reacted a bit less charitably than I would prefer to
    have).
    
    Substantively -- I don't recall any statements made which could
    be plausibly attributed to the placebo effect, perhaps I missed
    it -- but I suspect that an "expectancy effect" was intended.
    
    We know very little about the placebo effect, so it represents a
    classification of phenomena rather than an explanation.
    
    It does not seem to principally be paranormal, but there is a great
    deal of evidence highly suggestive of a paranormal component to
    it (e.g., tight double blind experiments do not completely eliminate
    it).
    
    A process which effectively elicits a placebo effect (and not all
    processes do so equally well) is a much more effective theraputic
    process than, say, a surgical procedure which has a similar "cure"
    rate, but kills many of the patients, or even than a harmless, well
    understood procedure with a lower efficacy.
    
    That something *might* be due to an expectancy effect (for example
    the placebo effect) does not mean that it *is*.  Here is one of
    the places where the typical "debunker" and the good scientific
    investigator part company.
    
    					Topher

    There is no way yet to fully explain why some things happen to some
    people and not to others.  The "idiot savant" possess some vast
    talent he does not understand... why? how?  I agree with Topher
    ... lately we seem to be constantly called upon to explain/justify
    why or how we are the way we are...  Some things cannot be explained,..
    they have to be experienced.  Our verbal/thought process does not
    control all of our mental activity... the human brain does many
    things we are not conciously aware of.  I feel no compelling need
    to "convince" anyone else of the validity of my experiences... and
    their beliefs do not effect the validity of my experiences.  In
    short... if anyone chooses not to believe all or some or none of
    what is written in this file.. then don't.. but stop trying to force 
    us to open doors for you that you obviously are not ready to pass through. 

    Hi.
         Topher, if you eliminate the first line of .18, do you still
    feel it was patronizing, rude, and obnoxious?  I had always found
    that Mr. Rogerism droll and intended its use as a way to introduce
    the idea of the placebo effect.  Nothing more was intended.  This
    is not an apology; this is information for you and for anybody else
    who wants it.
         You, on the other hand, and in response to a misperceived insult,
    fully INTENDED to be rude, obnoxious, and above all, righteous.
    You definitely put me in my place.  I got a real clear picture just
    lately of how much I LOVE being right when I get the chance.  I
    get a real physical rush out of it.  This form of being right is
    completed by the fact that someone else is entirely wrong about
    the thing I'm so right about.  It's no fun being so right unless
    somebody else is so wrong.  So, we're human together.
    
    Mike

    Mr. Rogers is droll.  Eddie Murphy is patronizing.  .18 sounded
    like an Eddie_Murphyism to me.  
    
    If we eliminate the first line, .18 might have something to
    say.  But the first line was part of the note.  
    
    Frankly, I've read several of your notes and cannot really
    understand what you are saying.  That is, I don't get any
    useful information from what you've said.  I do know the
    wording and overall tone is condescending and patronizing.
    Perhaps that blocks me from gaining any knowledge while 
    reading your replies.
    
                      Deb
    
    

So, has anyone else noticed any amplification of talent lately?

		Dave

    Hi again.
         So, I went and looked at some of the things that I've written
    in this and other conferences.  I didn't see them all because I
    don't know the commands well enough to do so, and I didn't want
    to spend forever looking.  I did find a reply that I would definitely
    take back if I could now.  I guess I don't see the world through
    your eyes, overall.  Since you have enough energy about this to
    tell me that I write condescendingly and patronizingly, maybe sometime
    you'll tell me which of my notes strike you that way.  I would like
    to know when I'm coming across that way, especially when I didn't
    intend to.  I would also like to know if I'm intentionally coming
    across that way more often than I thought.
         I find it interesting that when I actually come out and TELL
    you how I meant that first line, and ask you to hear it the way
    I intended it, putting aside your feelings derived from how you
    THOUGHT I meant it, you still seem offended.  I don't need your
    forgiveness, but maybe it would help if you gave it to me anyway,
    for both our sakes.  To make that more clear, GIVE ME THE BENEFIT
    OF THE DOUBT long enough to hear it how I meant it, then go back
    to being offended if that's what's true for you.
         Enough.  I won't reply about this in this note anymore.  If
    anybody wants to educate me as to the error of my ways, I'll reply
    directly to them concerning the error of THEIR ways.  One of these
    days I'm going to get a badge that says, "I'M RIGHT!".  Then I'm
    going to get a zillion copies made and give one to everybody...
    
    Mike

    Well, I for one have seen no increase in ability. Just a small decrease
    in the ability to pay bills. B^)
    
    I have seen an increase in expectation of what could happen though...

RE:.28
        
    The "999.*-1" can be replaced with *.* (but the notes will, I believe
    be listed in the opposite order).
    
    There is a utility, ENOTES, which will do this in "batch" and allows
    DIRECTORY qualifiers (like /AUTHOR) to be used with EXTRACT (i.e.,
    READ), and vice versa.
    
    For details see the conference DECWET::ENOTE.
    
    					Topher

    As for me and my talents - I'm still just hanging around digging
    on just hanging around and doing "my thing".  I do seem to be getting
    better and better at enjoying every little thing.  
    
    For example, I was just noticeing on thursday how earthy the air
    smells and how lush everything looks after a rain storm.

    
    Marion
    

.24>  Mr. Rogers is droll.  Eddie Murphy is patronizing. 

    Maybe he  was  doing  his  imitation  of  Eddie Murphy, imitating Mr.
Rogers. nyuck,nyuck. I didn't find it terribly offensive either.
    
    As for amplified  talents, I perceive things a little better.  I know
when something is going  to  happen,  or when someone will say something.

    My guitar playing hasn't improved, guess there's no talent there.  Oh
well, it's a good thing it's not amplified.
    
.31 chiaroscuro - now there's a word you don't see everyday in Notes.
    
    Jay

    Here are my very very late t'pence worth (I joined @two days ago.
    
    There is no such thing as total objectivity. Just a mere thought
    of thinking of observing something introduces a subtle change. I
    think, my training as a scientist taught me to be objective at all
    times and the deeper I got the less objective I became. So, I think
    it is more important to know the variables than to be totally detached
    -is this possibly what it means to BE and be AWARE (sorry, this
    thought just occured to me)
    
    Perwesh