Conference hydra::dejavu

    It's tough to make a choice, but here goes:
    
    1) _Resurrection_.  It's the story of a woman who suffers a NDE/OBE
    in an automobile accident that kills her husband.  Upon recovering,
    she discovers she's developed the ability to heal people.  The
    remainder of the film concerns how she relates to other people.
    Very heartwarming at the end.
    
    2) _Excalibur_.  Although one might scratch one's head about the
    story of King Arthur as a "paranormal" film, the central character
    really is Merlin.  There is rich symbolism and imagry in this film,
    and a good lesson on the use and misuse of mystically derived power.
    Also, it's breathtakingly beautiful, though that shouldn't count.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    I have many favorite paranormal movies, but the one that stands
    out in my mind is the one with Melissa Sue Anderson and Mary McDonough.
    I don't remember the name, but its fairly old (~1978) and the story
    is about two witches.  Melissa Sue is a witch practicing "Black"
    magic and Mary doesn't realize her powers (white) until the middle
    of the movie where the two of them are pitted against each other.
    Even though it's a little unrealistic, I like to see the outcome
    of clashes between different "powers".  This movie is a favorite
    Channel 38 re-run and is on at least every other month.  I'll reply
    again if I remember the name.
    
    I also like The Reincarnation of Peter Proud.  I read the book a
    long time ago, and this is one case where the movie does justice
    to the book.

    This ones from way back.
    
    
    	1. The Legend Of Hell House. It starred Roddy McDowell and others.
    	   There was a great deal of paranormal variety in the film.
    	   Apporitions (sp.), levitation, telekenisis, etc. Basically, a well
    	   haunted house. The main theme revolves around the former
    	   owner who was a Marquise DeSade of sorts and practiced all
    	   kinds of horrid things. Roddy McDowell was part of a team
    	   of paranormal experts called in to solve the mystery. They
    	   set up all kinds of sophisticated equipment (for the time
    	   period), which was also quite interesting. They eventually
    	   found that all the activity was due to the former owner being
    	   imprisoned in a secret room in which he died. The details
    	   are quite sketchy because it was so long ago, but it had
    	   something to do with the fact that he was a dwarf and had
    	   such a trememdous feeling of insecurity because of his size
    	   (and being discovered) that that accounted for all the 
    	   activity.
    
    
    	2. The Dead Zone, by Stephen King.
    
    	   I think everyone is familiar with this film.
    
    
    
    Steve

     I have quite a few i like also.A couple of them that are at the
    top:
    
    
    
       1.THE SHINING by Stephen King
    
    
    
       2.THE EXORCIST.
    
         Based on a true story,but the movie was not too accurate.
    
    
    

    
    
    1.  POLTERGEIST   The first one.  The scene with the tree grabbing
    the little boy stands out as one of the scariest for me!
    
    2.  MAGIC    The dummy IS alive!
    
    
    
    theresa.

    Funny you should ask!  I was just commenting last night
    that one of my very favorite movies of all time is "Oh God!".
    "Paranormal" may be stretching it a tad, but many of the
    statements and comments sum up my own religious beliefs.
    
    In my mind, the movie goes beyond entertainment and actually
    teaches a valuable lesson.  I loved it.....
    
    

- The Shining;    
    I really found The Shining to be a strong movie when I watched it.
    It really "grabbed" me. Not many movies do the to me, the photography
    was incredible!
              
- Star Wars (all 3);
    The Force is really another plane of existance that can be tapped.
    
- Carrie;
    The strongest of the Stephen King series (I feel it was at least!).
    
- The Twilight Zone;
    The Movie and the TV series. The TV series was very strong, but
    the episode on the plane with the gremlin on the wing of the plane
    with John Lithgrow (the movie version) was extremely well done.
    Actually, the whole movie was strong. I was really hit by the first
    episode of the bigot who got what he deserved, his worst nightmare.
                    
 - Dreamscape and Brainstorm;
   The joys and horrors of tapping the subconsious of the brain, not
    fantastic movies, but projected some interesting senarios of thought
    transferal and tapping.
    
    
    In keeping with the "spirit" the the original note, I'd have to
    say that The Shining is my favorite. I am not into horror/sci. fi.
    flicks, but The Shining really hit me!
    
    Chuck
        

    Anybody ever seen The Highlander?  Its great!
    The premise is that there are a very few people in the world who
    are actually immortals.  They live forever, gathering energy and
    awaiting "the gathering" when the surviving immortals will battle
    it out for "the prize".  One especially evil immortal decended from
    a Kurdish tribe from the Russian Steppes goes around killing as
    many others as he can and assimulating their power (an immortal
    can only be killed by decapitation by one of the ancient, sacred
    swords).  The final battle smacks strongly of Armageddon.  It was
    sad to see him watch his one true love grow old and die of old age
    in his arms while he remained young.  A great movie.
    
    How about The Philadelphia Experiment  (on time travel).
    
    Troll (on a desolution between the dimensions keeping the mortal
    and elvin worlds apart).  I really liked this one too.
                                                          
    I know there are others but I can't remember... stay tuned for more_:-)    
    

    Re .last_few:
    
    Okay, I modify my request.  I suggested two.  Why not list your
    two favorite and label the others "honorable mention"?
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

   First and foremost:  Raiders of the Lost Ark.  Nice point made about
    the fact that there is a "higher power" who does "take care of its
    own".  Kinda gets too political (Nazi's and all what with US vs
    THEM) sometimes, though.
    
    Also Brainstorm, Carrie, Krull (paranormal = magic), and the Howling
    scared the living daylights out of me.
    
    -Jody
    

    
                  	-< WOW...WHAT A CONCEPT!! >-   
    
    	The one movie that stands out the most in my mind is.........
    
    	                      ALTERED STATES
    
    	This movie was incredible(ok, maybe I'm exaggerating)! The content
    held my attention like no other movie I have ever seen.  "Jonathan
    Hurt" I believe is the last name of the guy who starred in it(somehow
    that name doesn't sound exactly right, but...).  
    	The topic was of regression through a "tank"(of water) into
    the mind.  Drug induced?  NO.  But at times you could wonder!
    
     	I left that movie with a "what a concept...holy ****" kind of
    expression.  I've seen it on cable -- check it out if you can! 
    
    

    
    
    	
    		Don't forget "Scanners"...
    
    
    - JSR -

    
    All the ones that I have seen here so far get my vote...they are
    all good.
    
    The one that I am going to go with is "The Hunger", which doesn't
    seem very paranormal, but the concept of an Egyptian curse that
    is passed on is quite unique!  Rather bizarre.  I loved it!
    
    Leigh

         Nice topic...you probably won't believe me, Steve, but I
    was thinking strongly about this topic last week...maybe you 
    picked up these thoughts or vice versa.
         Anyway, Altered States (starring William Hurt who won an
    Academy Award for *Kiss of the Spider Woman*) and Resurrection
    have both impressed me...both are within my concept of probable
    realities and both are movies I think of often.
         Virtually any movie can show a metaphysical component as 
    "virtually" all of our reality is a reflection of metaphysics
    in action.  Movies could be called "Illusions of illusions."
    Even while watching television, I make an effort to pick up on 
    whatever mystical or metaphysical activities I can detect.  I also
    make as many discernments as possible in regards to positive or
    negative reality creation and hopefully, learn enough in the process
    to apply those parts to my own "illusion."  In other words, movies,
    tv, etc. do not always represent escape but an opportunity to grow,
    as well.  
         I truly enjoy "science fiction" and related films.
      
    Frederick
    

    (please stop me if I'm stating the obvious....)
    
    After watching Oh God! and Star Wars, I had the distinct
    feeling that the movies were somehow 'directed' from be-
    yond...I seem to recall a rumor that George Lucas dreamed
    Star Wars...at any rate, I had the impression that they
    were not just for the sake of entertainment, but also to
    instruct the masses, and that the whole thing was being
    'overseen' by personalities of a spiritual sort.
    
    I felt the same way about Illusions and several other books.
    
    

    My top vote goes to _The_Wicker_Man_, about a detective who goes
    to Summerisle off the north coast of Scotland, where the people
    are practicing a form of neo-Druidism.  What they are doing is not
    much different than Wicca, but I disliked the ending.
    
    I also liked _The_Haunting_of_Hell_House_, which was mentioned earlier,
    but the movie didn't follow the book very well.  The book was much
    better (so what else is new?).
    
    Elizabeth
    

    
    Has anyone ever seen LABRINTH (sp?)?  I thought it was great.  The
    special effects were great.  That's my choice.  It's out on video
    now.  Rent it, it is very entertaining!!!!
    
    

    The Grateful Dead Movie

    How about Firestarter with Drew Barrymore?

>    I have many favorite paranormal movies, but the one that stands
>    out in my mind is the one with Melissa Sue Anderson and Mary McDonough.
>    I don't remember the name, but its fairly old (~1978) and the story
>    is about two witches.  Melissa Sue is a witch practicing "Black"
>    magic and Mary doesn't realize her powers (white) until the middle
>    of the movie where the two of them are pitted against each other.

The movie was called   Midnight Offering  if I recall correctly.  It may have
just gone through the local (Boston area) TV cycle recently (late night, of
course!).

re: .17 Labyrinth

Yes, a good movie.  It did strike me more as muppet comedy than a spiritualistic
type movie, though.  

Did any crystal users find the Dark Crystal good?  Any comments?

-Joe

    I loved dark crystal..  

    
    How about:
    
    
    			GHOSTBUSTERS!!!
    

    	Just out of curiousity, would it be possible to capture and
    contain a "supernatural being" (ex - ghost) for study?  How would
    one go about it?  (No, I am certainly not planning on trying anything
    like this.)  :^)
    
    	Larry
    

RE: .23
    
    I've reposted note 409.23 as 416 for replies, since it is not really
    "on" this topic.
    
    				Topher

    Re .24:
    
    Yeah, just after I did in 415.  However, yours ios prettier, so
    I omitted my note.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
    ...getting back to films, now...

    
    You know, for some reason upon checking this conference this morning, 
    I suddenly had this feeling of DEJAVU.....
               
    (:^)
    

    Cindy,
    
    I must admit I chuckled a little upon reading this title.  I suddenly
    thought Steve needed more space to enter all the films he keeps
    up with.....and I thought I saw a lot :^)
    
    Now all we need is for Jerry to add his bit and we *can* have fun.
    
    I wonder if somebody can pull my tongue from my cheeck!!!!
    
    ....dale

    My favorite is "Meetings with Remarkable Men".  It's about Gurdieff(sp?).
    It has a kind of fairy tale/adventure feeling to it.  I especially
    enjoyed the dance scenes.  They were captivating.  Has anyone else
    seen it?

    Mike

	Resurrection - a truly wonderful movie,

	The Wicker Man - surprisingly erotic, well done, 
			I too was disappointed with the end,

	The Hunger - my favorite vampire movie,

	and Zardoz - about a future society of immortals who 
		     long for death.




  	-vicki

    
    	Has anyone else seen _Somewhere in Time_ starring our current-day
    Superman, Christopher Reeves?  Really a great movie!!!  
    
    	I kind of wished it was more paranormal-centered than it was(kind
    of romantic/love story plot) but still a winner!
    
    	Traveling in time is the subject of course!  Very well done.
    

    RE:.30
    
    Another great time travel movie that I watch at every opportunity
    is Final Countdown.  The USS Nimitz goes back in time to Pearl
    Harbor.  Great movie!!  Makes you wonder.
    
    lor

    Just thought another film I enjoyed but wasn't exactly normal.

    "Being There" with Peter Sellers.  Incredible story about an illiterate
     television viewer who rises far above his station in life.  I believe
     it was the last movie Peter Sellers made.

    I'll go along with .32 that "Being There" is one of my favorite
    films. But is it paranormal? The last scene of the movie should
    answer that :-)  The making of this film was mentioned in Shirley
    McLane's first book. 
    
    Unfortunately, this was not Peter Seller's last film (it would be
    wonderful to say it was). He made one more film after this, a really
    awful comedy detective spoof. I forget what it was called but Seller's
    played a Chinese mandarin. It was released shortly after his death
    and made that loss all the more painful for his fans. 
    
    Paul.

    murder by death
    

    Re .33, .34:
    
    I believe the film was really _The Incredibly Fiendish plot of Dr.
    Fu Manchu_, or some such title; not _Murder by Death_.
    
    That isn't a paranormal film, though.
    
    Let me mention a few, though, that, while they're not my favorites
    are worth a view:
    
    _The Sender_ -- an odd film about an odd form of telepathy. 
    _The Devonsville Terror_ - A sort of reincarnation/witchcraft film.
    _The Boy Who Could Fly_ -- Lightheartening.
    _The Fury_ -- Viewable, but psi powers a bit nonlimited.
    _Creepers_ - a strange and rather gross-out film about an unusual
                 paranormal ability, mass murders, and rotting corpses
                 and the like.  Interesting handling of a yukky theme.
    _Nightwing_ -- Shamanism, with an O. Henry twist.
    _The Entity_ -- See the TV-edited version if you're not into prolonged
                    rape scenes.  Don't take too seriously, but don't
                    you just wish there was a psi lab _that_ well financed?
    
    Now can we stick to paranormal films?                                  
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    
    I saw the Entity a while back and I've never felt so sick in my
    life.  The movie ACTUALLY showed a woman being raped, repeatedly.
    Sorry, but that's not my idea of a good flick...
    

    Re .36:
    
    That's why I specified the edited-for-television version.  The uncut
    version is pretty bad, but the rape scenes were gratitious, and
    are pretty much excised from the TV version.  I repeat: I do ==>not<==
    recommend the unedited version, to put it mildly.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

                                        
    
    
    
    	I'm surprised no one has mentioned the 'Never Ending Story'.
    	I loved this film about what happens when people empower the
    	NOTHINGNESS.....for me it is a beautiful, spiritually based
    	story which represents the impact of 'believing'...and what
    	what happens when we 'stop believing'....the film used many
    	references to aspects of spirituallity and 'mysticism' with
    	the use of crystals, the gateways (can't remember the exact
    	name used) and whatever you want to call the human boy's projection
    	into the so-called 'nonreality' of the story.....
                    
        I wonder how many times the physical world has been effected
    	by the belief in 'unbelievable' worlds and the willingness on
    	some people's part to participate in them!
    
    	See it if you can and it's great to share with kids....as the
    	story is set in fantacy...if there is such a thing....
    
    	Happy viewing...good note Steve.
                         
    
    	Lora

 One of my favorite movies with a para-normal theme is "The SHOUT"
 starring Alan Bates.  This is the story of a man (Alan) who spent
 many years living and studying amongst the aborigines of Australia.

 After years of practice, Alan finally perfected a secret aboriginal
 expression of personal power called the SHOUT.  In order to SHOUT,
 Alan would bend over nearly touching his head to his knees, then
 rise up and arch over backwards, and then let out a terrifying SHOUT.
 All living things within the sound of his voice (unless protected)
 would be *killed*! In addition to the SHOUT, Alan also mastered an
 aboriginal method of focusing and consolidating his personal power,
 which was then transferred and stored within a stone.

 Alan returned from the aborigines to a normal Australian town, and
 proceeded to use his personal power to literally take total control
 (in a hypnotic sense) over an attractive woman, and blatantly steal
 her away from her husband.  Alan threatened the husband with the SHOUT
 if he didn't leave them alone, and in fact attempted to kill the husband
 with the SHOUT, but the husband stuffed wax in his ears to save himself,
 so only a shepherd and a flock of sheep grazing nearby were killed.
 (At least the husband was on the ball enough to protect himself in
 case Alan could actually SHOUT as he had said that he could).

 The husband was finally convinced that Alan had these powers, and he
 knew enough about the aboriginal methods to begin frantically searching
 for Alan's stone, which apparently had to be somewhere nearby.  He was
 guided by intuition to a huge sand dune, and after scrounging around
 in the sand, he finally found a stone that he 'knew' was Alan's power
 stone ... then ... as any good husband would do ... he CRUSHED the stone!!
 Immediately Alan's power and personality were shattered! (Alan said into
 SEVEN separate parts.)  Alan was promptly taken away by police for
 various infractions (since his power was no longer protecting him), and
 ended up in a mental institution.

 In fact, this whole story was told by Alan to a new intern doctor at
 the institution while watching a game of cricket.  He had told other
 doctors, but they figured that Alan was obviously crazy, and they used
 him as a good 'case' for breaking in the new doctor.  As the cricket
 game progressed, a thunderstorm approached.  Alan began to get more and
 more jumpy.  He said that he was having trouble keeping the shattered
 parts of his personality from breaking into a million pieces.  Finally,
 Alan started threatening to SHOUT if things didn't calm down.

 I'm sure that you can imagine the look on the intern's face while he is
 thinking "Can he really SHOUT, or is he just crazy?".  Well, a few sharp
 lightning strikes came in rapid succession, and ...


     !!!  HE SHOUTED  !!!

 All of the walls in the little cricket scorer's booth that he was sitting
 in were blown off as if with a massive explosion.

 The movie ended here without fully clarifying the effect of the final
 SHOUT on Alan, the intern, or the institute cricket players/watchers;
 however ... if you paid close attention ... just _before_ the SHOUT ...
 you could discern the intern frantically jumping out of a window in
 the little scorer's booth ... covering his ears with all his might!

 Ah-hah! ... the intern was a believer! ... I hope he survived the SHOUT.

						Todd

    My top two are STAR WARS ( or The Empire Stikes Back ) and Carrie.
    
        Some other films worth noting are The Shining, Firestarter and
    Halloween.  I think Halloween can be considered in this catagory.

    I'm not usually into horror flicks, but I saw "Hellraiser" this weekend
    with a friend.  I wasn't sure what to expect before I saw it (some
    would say that's the best way to see a horror flick). 
    
    Wow.
    
    I think it is one of the best paranormal/horror flicks I've seen
    in a *LONG* time.  Aside from the cliche' blood sucking and odorless
    dead bodies, the movie made sense paranormally.  The concepts were
    pretty logical.  We're not talking Fridays the 13th or Halloweens,
    there's a real story here.  ( I wish he had more money for one of
    the special effects...)
               
    I won't say anymore since I don't want to ruin the movie for anyone who
    wants to see it.  (Don't see it on a full stomach :-O )
    
    Dave 

Re Last


My husband and I went to see Hellraiser a couple of weeks ago. While we
both enjoyed the movie, my husband thought it was a bit slow, and I
thought that it missed the mark. I thought they were trying to make 
a statement, but for me they left to many loose ends...

-vicki

    As of last night, one of my favorites is Haunted by Her Past starring
    Susan Lucci and Finola Hughes.  It's a made for television movie
    and was great!
    
    I also like Hell House, Firestarter, and the one with Melissa Sue
    Anderson and Mary McDonough (and I can't remember the name either).
    
    Ande

    I also saw "Haunted by her Past" and thought it was GREAT!!!
    
    Deb

    The movie starring Melissa Sue Anderson and Mary McDonough is called
    
    	MIDNIGHT OFFERINGS
    
    
    Ande

    I've found two older movies that were pretty good.
    
    --->  Deja Vu  
    
    		Jaclyn smith did this about the reincarnation of a
    ballerina, her boyfriend and vengeful mother.  Pretty good.
    
    -->  The Cold Room
    
    		About a girl that visits East Berlin with her father
    and starts experiencing events that haven't happened.  Turns out
    she's reliving the life of the girl who lived in her room.  This
    is EXCELLENT!
    
      The
     Haunting of Hell House was good, The Shining, too.
    
    Tracy

Here are a few...

Made In Heaven

   Recent film (now on tape) with Tim Hutton and Kelly McGillis about
   reincarnation and soul mates.

Reincarnation of Peter Proud

   Old one about, how'd you guess, reincarnation.

The Resurrection

   Good one about near death experiences and psychic healing with
   Elleyn Bursten.

The Boy Who Could Fly

   About believing...

Monty Python's In Search of the Holy Grail  (yuck, yuck, yuck)

Meetings with Remarkable Men

   Story about Gurdjief (Russian Philosopher) and his search for "the 
   meaning of life".  Kind of slow, but good information.

And then there's the fun ones...

The Dark Crystal
Legend
Labryrinth
The Last Unicorn
Dragon Slayer

    How about:
    
    Cat People - the new version (better special effects)
    
    Bell, Book, and Candle - Kim Novak, Jimmy Stewart, Jack Lemon
    
    All of Me - Steve Martin and Lilly Tomlin
    
    
    And as a side note (not a movie, but....):	Dark Shadows

    the evil mind with claude (the invisible man) rains about a carnival
    mind reader who actualy develops mental powers with a woman from
    the audiance. 1930's 

PENUTS::CIMICS                                       34 lines  28-SEP-1988 11:46
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    
    I checked the keywords and did not see anything about movies (if
    there is another note, feel free to move this) so here go's.
    
    I am curious if any of you have seen the movie "The Prince of
    Darkness".  I rented the tape last week and thought that it was
    fastinating.                                            
    
    It took place in an old/closed down church, where a group of priests
    called the "Brotherhood of Sleep" used to reside.  Any one in this
    church or within a certian area of it that fell asleep would have
    the same dream, which would continue from night to night like a
    movie.  The dream itself was very odd - with a voice throughout
    it saying "This is not a dream.  This is a broadcast from 1999." And 
    supposidly this dream was a warning of what could/will be happining 
    in the future if something was not done to stop Satan from returning
    to take over the earth.
    
    The legend was (to some effect).....
    
    Millions and millions of years ago, before man walked the earth 
    Satan took his son and burried him in a (container), so that when 
    the time came his son could rise and bring his father back from 
    the "other side".
                                                      
    The movie itself was a little far-fetched, but the whole
    idea/concept/legend was almost believable.
    
    I know this is sketchy, but I don't want to give away the whole
    movie to anyone who hasn't seen it or wants to see it.
    
    Did any of you see this movie?  What did you think about it?
    
    SC

    Re .51 (SC):
    
    Bill beat me to it.  Actually, the commentaries for _Witchboard_
    ought to go here, and I'll modify the basenote title.
    
    I saw this film, and I reviewed it in more detail in the MOVIES
    conference (which you can add to your notebook by hitting "SEL"
    or KP7).
    
    >Millions and millions of years ago, before man walked the earth 
    >Satan took his son and burried him in a (container), so that when 
    >the time came his son could rise and bring his father back from 
    >the "other side".
     
    This part is analogous to the Cthulhu legends started by H. P.
    Lovecraft.  The basic idea, though, is somewhat at variance with
    Christian theology.
    
    However, the film _as a film_ had some good points.  For instance,
    the scientist/project_leader was open-minded.  Many of the cliches
    of average horror films were bypassed in this one.
    
    Not great, theologically silly, but entertaining.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
    

    Well, a sort of review.  
    
    For those with VCRs, a little-publicized film that should be fun
    for anyone with a paranormal bent is: _Vibes_, starring, Cindi
    Lauper [of all people], Jeff Goldblum, and Peter Falk.  The plot
    of the film is interesting: some folk have found a power source
    for psychic energy in South America.  Our heroes (Lauper and Goldblum)
    are psychic folk who joined a project at a parapsychology lab; he's
    a radiometrist; she's got a spirit guide who can do a little
    precognitive stuff.  They're the best two in the group.  She's
    approached by a strange man (Falk) to help find his lost brother
    in South America; but he's really trying to get them to search out
    the power source....
    
    The film is filled with very funny lines.  Also, and astonishingly
    for a light comedy, it's fairly accurate about the paranormal stuff.
    
    Worth seeing.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

For lack of a better place to ask this, and since I don't want to start
another note since it's only a question...

For Dejavuers over in England (or anyone else that knows)...

I hear that the English (original) version of the movie "Legend" is
longer and much better than the American released version.  Has anyone 
seen it, how long is it and is it available in your movie rental places.  
Also, I really like the sound track and have uncovered all kinds of 
confusion about it.  Seems like the movie soundtrack by Tangerine Dream 
was never released (rats!) but in England it was released by (I think) the 
London Symphony which no one over can seem to get their hands on.  The one 
released over here was a remake done by various rock groups and flopped.

Can anyone shed some light on this mystery for me?

Thanks,
Terry

    
    Terry,
    
    I seem to recall that there is a conference on Great Britian.
    
    Cindy

Re: .55 (Cindy)

    > I seem to recall that there is a conference on Great Britian.

    Huh?  

    Terry

    Terry, I think Cindy is suggesting that you ask your question in
    TRUCKS::GREAT_BRITAIN. Hit KP7 to add it to your notebook.
                                                              
   	- Bill

  Thanks, I'll give it a try.

  Terry

    
    Sorry Terry - posted it before coffee.  Thanks Bill.
    
    Cindy

Hi Terry, can you give a brief description of 'Legend'?
Sometimes films play in Europe with different titles
to the States.

John D.

RE -2 (Cindy)

>    Sorry Terry - posted it before coffee.  Thanks Bill.
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I checked the time: 11.52 AM
(hm... have to address this in a very positive way.... let's see... ah!)

Cindy,
I admire your great determination and willpower to wait this long in the morning
before you take your coffee. I can see that I have a long way to go: by the time
I wake up, I already have *had* my coffee!!

:-) :-)

Arie

re: .60 (John D.)

It starred Tom Cruise (Top Gun) and was about the legend of the Last 
Unicorn and the Red Bull on the surface but really had to do with recognizing 
that there is a dark side (Jung's shadow) to us all and that until we realize 
and accept it (quit repressing it) it will manifest itself in negative ways
in our lives.  It was first released over there and was produced/directed by
the same guy that did "Alien" and "Blade Runner".  Great movie!

Is that enough?

Thanks,
Terry

re: .-1 Terry

>  Is that enough?

Well, it's a good description, but it's got me beat.
(But I agree with you about the technical quality of the other two).

I'll have to look out for it.

John D.

    Reply to .62, Casper,
    
    The Bad Guy was played by my next to favorite bad guy Tim Curry,
    of Rocky Horror fame.
    
    My favorite line is when the Devil is speking to his Father. The
    Father asks why he is enthralled by the woman and he says, "She
    interests me." He, he, he...
    
    Great stuff and all that. I always root for the bad guy anyway.
    Typically this is a story paralleling the myths of summer and winter.
    
    Witches of Eastwick is pretty good also. My favorite bad guy stars
    in that one... 

    re: last few
    
         Guess what's on our local channel 2 tonight?  I was glancing
    through the TV GUide and there it is--LEGEND.  Who said things
    are "coincidental"?
    
    Frederick
    

re: .65 (Frederick)

   Yeah, but I bet it's the US version.  I want to get my hands on the
   English one.  It was on here a few nights ago.  I've seen it a few
   times and, from what I've found out, the original version is much
   better.  

   If you haven't seen it take a look.  It's a great movie.

   Cindy, I posted a note in the conference you suggested.  Maybe I'll
   get some additional info.  Thanks!

   Terry    

         
    Hi Arie,
    
    I must 'fess up - my working hours are from 10 to 7...but I got
    in particularly late this week.  So it really was true!  (;^)
    
    G'day,
    
    Cindy

         This weekend I happened to watch a film as part of a 
    twin-bill and had no idea what it was about.  I was very
    pleasantly surprised.  The movie is called "Chances Are"
    and stars Cybil Shepard (sp?.)  It is really a great "could
    be" in the sense of many of the things we always talk about.
         The movie concerns itself with a couple who get married
    in 1963.  One year later the husband dies getting struck by
    a car.  At the time, his wife (Cybil) is pregnant.  Well,
    her husband is in "heaven" and demands to come back to earth.
    He does, as a child born in Cleveland; however, in the haste 
    to get out of there, he is unable to receive his "innoculation"
    that would have caused him to forget his just-completed lifetime.
         Twenty-some years later he graduates from Yale and goes
    to Washington to find a job.  Through a series of "coincidences"
    he finds himself with Cybil, her daughter (his age) and Cybil's
    best friend (Ryan O'Neil, who was formerly his best friend.)  The
    core of the movie deals with his "remembrances" and escapades (avoiding
    his daughter in his former life, e.g.)
         The movie is very funny and quick-moving and very entertaining,
    in my opinion.  (And "plausible", in very many ways.)
    
    Frederick
    

    Hi Frederick,
    
    I saw that movie (along with another DEJAVUER).  Even though
    it 'Hollywoodized' some 'truths', thus making them seem 
    implausible, we really enjoyed the movie.  I admit I got
    pretty misty, because it hit home for me in a lot of places.
    
    I guess this is the type of movie that will perhaps get the 
    message to the masses in a way that is palatable and nonthreatening.
    
    Ro

RE .54 (Terry)

� For Dejavuers over in England (or anyone else that knows)...
� I hear that the English (original) version of the movie "Legend" is
� longer and much better than the American released version.  Has anyone 
� seen it, how long is it and is it available in your movie rental places.  

There is a copy of Legend in 'Ayr Video' rental in Scotland, I'll hire it and
have a look.  Call me if you're ever passing through Ayr and we can view it 
over a few malts.

Don't know about the sound track ... I'll look round the local record shops.

RE .62 (Terry)

� It starred Tom Cruise (Top Gun) and was about the legend of the Last 
� Unicorn and the Red Bull on the surface but really had to do with recognizing 
� that there is a dark side (Jung's shadow) to us all and that until we realize 
� and accept it (quit repressing it) it will manifest itself in negative ways
� in our lives.  

My eight year old daughter Debbie's favourite video is 'The Last Unicorn', a
cartoon version of the story you describe.

I wonder if it was after watching this that she stopped repressing the dark
side of her nature.  ;-)

RE: 70  (Ian)

Let me know what you think about the original version of the movie.  I'd
be intetested to hear.

> My eight year old daughter Debbie's favourite video is 'The Last Unicorn', a
> cartoon version of the story you describe.
> I wonder if it was after watching this that she stopped repressing the dark
> side of her nature.  ;-)

I have an eleven year old daughter who saw 'The Last Unicorn' when she was
about eight.  I know what you mean,  and I thought it was hormones.  ;')

Terry

    Just read all the replies to this note -- now I've got a great new
    list of movies to look for!  Some of my favorites:
    
    Agree with .13 & .29 -- "The Hunger", (Catherine Deneuve, David Bowie 
    and Susan Sarandon) about modern-day vampires is both chilling and erotic.
    Also has an _excellent_ soundtrack.
    
    Someone also mentioned "Cat People" (the remake), another good one!
    
    "Angel Heart", (Mickey Rourke, Robert DeNiro and Lisa Bonet) about
    voodoo, black magic and Satanism.  This movie's sort of languid,
    but fascinating, up until about the last 15-20 minutes, where it
    really takes off.  The ending was a real shocker!  One of those
    where after you see the ending, you watch it again to see how all
    the weird stuff you didn't understand the first time around now
    makes sense.
    
                             ...Lisa V...

    What about "The Wicker Man", I think it was called. A bit too realistic
    for my tastes!!
    
    Brian

    Is it really not mentioned yet? "Don't look now", with Julie Christie
    and Donald Sutherland. A film from 1973 but high on my "favourites"
    list. 
    
    Gives a whole new view on Venice, too.
    
    Ad

    
    	   Pet Sematary gets a five-star rating from me... it made my
    	spine crawl five times.  Excellent flick.  Very paranormal.
    	A must see.
    
    	- Greg

    I just read through this entire file...two truly spooky movies came
    to my mind.  Some of you may not think of them as 'psychic' but
    they made me think for a long, long time afterwards.
    
    The Terminator starring Arnold Schwartznegger was rather on the
    gory side at times, but the story line overall was excellent.  The
    Terminator is sent back in time to Earth from the future to kill
    the man who, in the future, had a plan to save Earth from total
    destruction.  (got that??) Since the man had not been born yet,
    The Terminator was to kill his mother so that she could not give
    birth to him, so he would not exist in the future, and have the
    plan....
    
    I realize I've told the main plot, but it is a real thinker and
    many people would not see it because it stars Schwartznegger.
    
    The other is also a Schwartznegger film....Predator...also very
    interesting.  Most films do not keep me awake nights, but this one
    did for weeks.  It was not so much scary, but such an unusual idea
    that I kept rethinking the plot over and over and trying to figure
    out if it was possible.  Arnold is part of a SWAT team that goes
    into the South American jungle to find missing American soldiers.
    In finding out what happened to these Americans, they found a half-man,
    half-lizard (or close) creature that was part mechanical/nuclear.
    It sounds bizarre, but it was so well done that it was believable
    (to me at least).  The creature had an incredibly horrible face,
    with tentacles where the mouth would be, and would tear skin off
    people with it.  From reading various dejavu notes, this creature
    sounds like Cthulu as described here.  The creature could also kill
    people with a laser beam which emanated from its hands.  Finally,
    it was about to be captured, so it opened a metal panel on its arm,
    keyed in a "launch sequence code" and self-destructed in a nuclear
    explosion.  
    
    Many questions were left unanswered...where did the creature come
    from?  Why did it want to destroy humans? (it didn't use them for
    any reason, just killed them for no apparent reason) How could it
    be half man/machine? 
    
    Sorry if I've ruined the surprise for anyone...my intention was
    to give you some detail so that you might be interested.  I'd love
    the chance to correspond here with any of you.  Any thoughts?  Anyone
    seen either of them?
    
    Nancy
    
    P.S.  I was dead set against seeing any 'Arnold' films.  My husband
    came home with them one night and we were hooked.  You need to ignore
    the violence, and try to look for the plot.  
                                                 
    
    

    Re .76 (Nancy):
    
    >In finding out what happened to these Americans, they found a half-man,
    >half-lizard (or close) creature that was part mechanical/nuclear.
    >It sounds bizarre, but it was so well done that it was believable
    >(to me at least).  The creature had an incredibly horrible face,
    >with tentacles where the mouth would be, and would tear skin off
    >people with it.  From reading various dejavu notes, this creature
    >sounds like Cthulu as described here.
     
    No, Cthulhu is a nastier sort of critter.  The critter in the film
    was fully material and cvame as a hunter from another planet (humans
    were prey).  Cthulhu was supposed to be one of the godlike creatures
    that came possibly from outside the cosmos asnd who, according to
    the stories, lies sleeping in an eldritch cioty at the ocean's bottom,
    weaiting to awaken.
    
    >Many questions were left unanswered...where did the creature come
    >from?  Why did it want to destroy humans? (it didn't use them for
    >any reason, just killed them for no apparent reason) How could it
    >be half man/machine? 
     
    It wasn't half machine; it had bioaugmentation.  It killed them
    the same reason some humans kill mallard ducks -- for the "sport"
    of it.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    re. 76 (Nancy)
    
                 As Steve said what I understood was the creature was
    a collector.  A collector of human skulls such as some of our species
    are collectors of lets say deer antlers.  I took it as the creature
    was VERY interested in Arnold as he may have had the "perfect" skull.
    It did have a good story line if you didn't mind all the gore.

                                                             kim

    RE:  .77
    
    Steve,
    
    I've been thinking through the plot for months now, and didn't
    come up with the ideas you did.  Did I miss something?  Can you
    describe "bioaugmentation" a bit?   Did you get it from the film,
    or from reading about it?  And, thanks for the description of Cthulu.
    
    Sorry if I misclassified!  My thinking it was paranormal was the
    ideas of 1) time travel (Terminator) and 2) what I thought was a
    more mythological creature (Predator).  Many thanks for your thoughts
    and clarifications.
    
    Nancy

    Re .79 (Nancy):
    
    From the beginning of the film (the title sequence) it was clear
    that The Predator was an extraterrestrial from a high-technology
    civilization.  "He" was "dropped off" in a small pod to do "his"
    hunting; "he" had the high-tech equivalent of a blind or camouflage
    (an invisibility suit).  
    
    The bioaugmentation was powered exoskeletal armor that added to
    "his" already formidable physical powers.  Various forms of exoskeletal
    armor have been investigated and breadboarded by the defense agencies
    of more than one country, but so far without much practical success.
    
    _The Predator_ was basically a science-fiction film.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    I came across an unexcpectedly good movie this weekend --  from
    Walt Disney of all people -- name Watcher in the Woods.
    
    (Yes I'm going to ruin the plot)  The story is based around the
    disappearance of a girl 20 or so years before.  A family stays the
    summer where the disappearance occurs.  There are 2 douaghters in
    the family, one who sees the missing girl and one who has `someone'
    talking thorugh her.
    
    The plot build up is very well done.  (Here comes the ruin part)
     It turns out the girls disapearance was caused a combination of
    diffrent factors:  3 friends surrounding her playing an initiation
    ritual, and a lightening storm that occurs at the pinnacle of a
    solar eclipse.  
    
    Where did she dissapear to you ask?  She and a being from another
    dimension got switched.  This being was trapped here on earth (or
    here in the 3rd dimension if you choose) with no body, so it used
    one of the daughters to speak through and the other to see to aid
    in returning both to their rightful dimensions.

    As an FYI, Bette Davis was in this, too.  GOOD movie!

    Has anyone watch "Lady in White"?  I watch it this weekend and it was a
    very good mystery/ghost story.  
    
    In contrast I also watch "Punkinhead" which was pretty good.  A bit
    gory in parts.
    
    Denise

    Re .82 b(Denise):
    
    _Lady In White_ and _Pumpkinhead_ I both enjoyed.  They're both
    reviewed in the BOMBE::MOVIES notesfile, which you should be able
    to access by hitting "SEL" or KP7.
    
    _Lady In White is Note 1759; _Pumpkinhead_ is note 2282.
                                              
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
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    Of the two, _Pumpkinhead_ is the more consistent, paranormally.
    _Lady In White_ isd entertaining, but the precise relationship of
    the spirits, the reenactment of the crime, and what have you is
    a bit muddled.  Ditto the "reunion" scene.  However, the pictures
    were arresting and the special effects quite good.
    
    _Pumpkinhead_ is more like a hillbilly folk tale.  While one could
    object that the guilty and innocent are alike beset by the creature,
    the linkage of the creature to the father seemed obvious from the
    first (and the "solution" as to how to stop it); likewise, the
    revelation at the end was no surprise.  The scenes were frequently
    very pretty (e.g., the "witch woman"'s house interior).