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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

313.0. "Astro Survey" by NATASH::BUTCHART () Mon Feb 23 1987 12:32

    I'm entering this note as an experiment.  People who reply can either
    do so here, or send mail to me directly at NATASH::BUTCHART.  This
    is for some astrological information that will be very interesting
    to me.  I will tell you what was going on after there have been
    10 replies (either private or public will suffice).
    
    Now for The Question:  how have you been feeling lately?  If the
    way you've been feeling, or the way events have been occurring for
    approixmately the past month fits any of the descriptions below,
    let me know:
    
    Have you:
    
    	1. felt more than usually itchy and/or restless?
    	2. had to go on sudden trips?
    	3. even if you didn't go on a trip, had the urge to bolt out
    	   your current locale/scene to some other?
    	4. had a powerful experience with some altered state of 
    	   consciousness?
    	5. had a profound experience that changed your beliefs or the
    	   the way you now plan to live your life?
    	6. gotten into a lot of arguments about philosophies of life,
    	   or ideas of what constitutes social justice?
    	7. had trouble sleeping?
    	8. had technological difficulties of a major order with pieces
    	   of machinery that usually behave, if not perfectly, at
    	   least rationally?
   
    You can describe experiences if you like; it's not necessary.  Now,
    everyone has times they feel restless, take trips, change their
    philosophy of life, have trouble sleeping or trouble with technology.
    What I'm looking for is the feeling that these things have been
    happening more than normally.  If none of the above apply, but you
    still feel as if _something_ is making you dash about more than
    usual in your life, feel free to reply also.
    
    Marcia
    
    
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313.1ERASER::KALLISHallowe'en should be legal holidayMon Feb 23 1987 12:5621
    Marcia --
    
    Hmm ...
    
    	1. No.
    	2. Well, I _did_ go on my vacation, but that had been planned
           for some time.  However, it was almost cut off (fares) but
           the Fares Wars allowed me to go anyway.
    	3. That's what noting's for. ;-)
    	4. No, but to be fair about it, in my mental exercises I achieved
           a very heightened level of visualization.
    	5. No.
    	6. No.
    	7. Some.
    	8. Massive car troubles, requiring about $600 in cumulative
           service fees.
    
    Hope these help.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
313.2RETORT::STANLEYBlues for AllahMon Feb 23 1987 12:5913
My life has been very active for the last month, so I'll just list choices
from your list

		Dave


    	1. felt more than usually itchy and/or restless.
    	6. gotten into a lot of arguments about philosophies of life,
    	   or ideas of what constitutes social justice.
    	7. had trouble sleeping.
    	8. had technological difficulties of a major order with pieces
    	   of machinery that usually behave, if not perfectly, at
    	   least rationally.
313.3How did you know?TOOTER::GARYinclined to wear bedroom slippers...Mon Feb 23 1987 13:2923
    Have you:
    
    	1. felt more than usually itchy and/or restless?
    	2. had to go on sudden trips?
    	3. even if you didn't go on a trip, had the urge to bolt out
    	   your current locale/scene to some other?

	Yes! It was the strangest thing, Saturday I was restless, but
	in a positive sort of way, lot's of good engery in fact I hadn't
	felt that good in weeks. I made reservations for a trip to florida. 
	Then yesterday, bam! I woke up feeling more restless, depressed, 
	wondering about life, and death... Alternating between anger and
	tears. By the afternoon I just HAD to get out of the house to go 
	somewhere, anywhere. BTW this is very unusual for me, I am a very 
	stable type of person for the most part. I feel much better today.

	It was really weird.

	-vicki




313.5My reactionsCSSE32::NAIDUKindle the Spark withinMon Feb 23 1987 14:2916
    Marcia,
    
    Here is my two cents....
    
    1. Yes, restless and impatient
    2,3,4. No
    5. Not profound but changes in beliefs that affect the way of life
    6. No
    7. Yes, no explainable reasons
    8. No
    
    One thing your questioneer did not mention is about change of job.
    I had been contemplating on changing the job, place of work, etc.
    This may be a part of question 3 you are looking for.  I don't know.
    
    Pat.
313.6ITCHY, YOU BET.TORA::SARGENTMon Feb 23 1987 14:4522
    Some answers for your survey Marcia,
    
    1.  Very itchy for a change of scenery, especially South.
        We discussed going to Florida, but deferred travel until
        May-June for financial reasons.
    
    2.  We did end up going to Salisbury Beach where we saw a
        Toyota 4-door sedan floating in the surf.  Apparently
        a two wheel drive isn't the thing to go driving in the
        sand with.
    
    3.  Very strong feelngs/dreams etc. about my grandmother
        who died about 1 1/2 years ago.  We were very close
        when I was a child, and now I have a new granddaughter
        of my own it brings back lots of "love"ly memories.
    
    4.  Experienced great philiosophical discussions that deepened
        my beliefs.
    
    5.  Weenend before last experienced car trouble that ended
         with a frozen thermostat, no heat, very depressing as
         the temp was -20 F.
313.7Here's mineAKOV68::FRETTSMon Feb 23 1987 16:4825
     
    Well, let's see now....
    
    1.  Yes, and irritable and stressed, too.
    
    2.  No
    
    3.  Yes, all I keep thinking about is Bermuda and Hawaii!!
    
    4.  No
    
    5.  No
    
    6.  No, but I've been thinking about them very much.
    
    7.  YES!!!!! (Probably has to do with moving to our new house soon
                  and it's not being finished yet!)
    
    8.  Yes, a week ago Sunday, our furnace decided to die on one of
        the coldest days of the year (4 degrees) and we had 8 people
        over for dinner.
                        
    
    Carole
    
313.8my inputMSTIME::RABKEMon Feb 23 1987 17:0325
    I am interested to see what you come up with.  I've been feeling
    very restless & in a quiet rage.  I wasn't sure if it was because
    of after Christmas depression, a reaction to things that have been
    going on in my life, or ?  Your answer may give me some insight
    into what is happening.
    
    
    1 & 2)  Yes, I've been feeling restless esp. for the last week.  I just
    have to get away.  
     
    3)  I did that this weekend.  Nothing special but did get away.
    I feel though that I have to do it again.
    
    4)  Not yet, probably because I've been neglecting my inner work.
    Am I in for a surprise?
    
    5 & 6)  Recently, esp. within the last few weeks, I've been questioning
    God, justice, pain, & the meaning of life (a few trivial subjects).
    I've solicited input from people & have argued.  Not from the perspective
    of trying to persuade them but to get some answers for myself.
    
    7)  I find it hard to stay asleep during the middle of the night
    but not when it's time to get up.
    
    8)  Please NO!    
313.9My 2 CentsGRECO::MISTOVICHMon Feb 23 1987 17:5811
313.10Knowledge only slows it down a bit ...CYCLPS::BAHNWell yes, I DO live on an island ...Mon Feb 23 1987 23:1133
Hi Marcia,

Yes, even though we're aware of  what's  "going  on,"  it's  been
having  its  effect  on  Linda  and  me.   We  went  to Maine for
Valentine's Day weekend (stayed in a haunted inn).   Both  of  us
have  been  cranky  during  the  period  in question.  (I've been
having a particularly difficult time.) 

The "machine trauma" has  been  particularly  impressive  ...  on
Monday the 16th, two of the three 780s in our building went "down
for the count."  That night, I had a blowout (rear wheel) on I-93
and arrived home to discover that the furnace wasn't running (out
of fuel).  On Tuesday the 17th, our site manager's  car  died  on
the  way  to  our Woods Meeting ... on Thursday the 19th, the two
systems "bellied up" again. 

My  psychic  abilities  seem  to  be   improving   rapidly,   but 
considering  my  "studies"  and what's lining up for August 17th, 
I'm not too surprised with that.

Terry

P.S.  That's 10 replies ... are you going to let everyone in on 
      the subject of your survey now?

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313.12INK::KALLISHallowe&#039;en should be legal holidayTue Feb 24 1987 08:497
    Re .10:
    
    I think what Marcia has in mind is a bit more complex than just
    that.  Cute graphic, though...
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
313.13MILRAT::KEEFETue Feb 24 1987 09:059
    RE: .10
    
    >My  psychic  abilities  seem  to  be   improving   rapidly,   but 
    >considering  my  "studies"  and what's lining up for August 17th, 

   Ok, I'll bite, what's lining up for Aug. 17th?
    
    - Bill 
   
313.14A Grand Fire Trine (and I'm an Aries)CYCLPS::BAHNWell yes, I DO live on an island ...Tue Feb 24 1987 09:136
  > Ok, I'll bite, what's lining up for Aug. 17th?
    
  A grand trine in the fire signs ... I forget which "planets."  
  It's not all of them, but the vast majority.
   
  Terry
313.15<--Gentle As A Lamb-->KRYPTN::GERTZGentle On My MindTue Feb 24 1987 11:029
    A Grand Fire Trine!  I'd sure like to know more about what this means...
    My Sun Sign is ARIES and MOON is LEO.  The Fire signs show up 6 times
    in my Natal chart!  I often wonder if the reason I'm excitable and
    edgy sometimes is because of all the FIRE.  Over the past few months,
    my pyschic abilities have become stronger and stronger.  I've also
    made airline reservations to San Francisco for a vacation.  Lately,
    the need to get away has been very strong.
    
    Charlene
313.16More to add to .7AKOV68::FRETTSTue Feb 24 1987 11:5411
    
    
    
      8.  We had a series of power outages at the Acton, MA Nagog 
          facility - 2 over the Valentine's Day weekend and 1 the
          following Tuesday.
    
          We have also had a lot of down time with our cluster 
          during the past 2 weeks.
    
    
313.17The Grand Fire TrineAKOV68::FRETTSTue Feb 24 1987 12:1029
    re: .14 .15
    
    I just checked my astrology program for the 17th of August...
    there certainly is a grand fire trine!  It looks like this:
           
           
           Jupiter 29 Aries  -----------  Uranus 22 Sagittarius
                             \         /
                              \       /
                               \     /
                                \   /
                                 \ /
                                  -
                          Mercury   21 Leo
                          Venus     22 Leo
                          Sun       24 Leo
                          Mars      26 Leo
                                          
    
    Knowing where these signs fall in our own natal chart houses, as
    well as having any planets at or near the same degrees/signs would
    help to understand how this may affect each of us individually.
    
    On a larger scale it looks like some incredible energy coming our
    way that can be used creatively, inventively and expansively - there
    is a lot of inspiration behind this if we can tap into it.
    
    Carole
     
313.18The Envelope, Please . . . :-)NATASH::BUTCHARTTue Feb 24 1987 12:22139
    Okay, here is what has been happening.
    
    All of you have heard about Mercury going retrograde in the past
    week, but that doesn't involve January.
    
    Cabin fever has been a definite problem this winter, what with the
    heavy snows, intense cold and all.  I believe it's intensifying
    something that people could feel they'd usually "work off".
    
    The major outer planet transit that has been taking place is a square
    between Jupiter in Pisces and Uranus in Sagittarius.  This square
    is quite strong because Jupiter is said to "rule" Sagittarius, the
    sign that Uranus is currently in.  This square became exact at 25
    degrees of those signs on February 12th, but it has been building
    toward that for a month or more.
    
    The full moon that took place the day after (Friday 13th) was also
    at 25 degrees of the signs in which it occurred (Moon at 25 degrees
    of Leo, Sun at 25 degrees of Aquarius).  This lunation aspected
    the outer planet transit as follows:  the Leo Moon was trine Uranus
    and inconjunct Jupiter; the Aquarius Sun was sextile Uranus and semi-
    sextile Jupiter.
    
    Jupiter and Uranus represent our urges for freedom, growth and change.
    Jupiter operates in a more expansive and perhaps "balanced" mode
    than Uranus; Uranus could be said to represent "divine discontent"--
    never staisfied with the status quo.  When Jupiter and Uranus aspect
    each other, the keyword can be summed up as a desire for "More 
    Change!" especially when the aspect is a stressful one like a square.
    The need to grow and change becomes suddenly overpowering.
    
    When the desire for important growth and change becomes suddenly
    the paramount desire in one's life, what can happen?  Depending
    on your circumstances in your life, you could suddenly want to (or
    have to take trips (Jupiter rules long-distance travel), have a
    breakthrough of consciousness of some kind (Uranus loves those),
    suddenly decide that long-contemplated changes have to be made NOW
    (Uranus hates to wait for later anyway), have mechanical problems
    (Uranus does rule many technological realms, and overload conditions
    can occur with Jupiter in tough aspect to it), you could have either
    an exhilarating _or debilitating_ feeling of excess energy, could
    find your mind working at a kind of hyper-speed (both planets have
    to do with uses of the higher mind and Self), you could feel that
    you've "found your truth", and with the square operating be trying
    to convince everyone else that your truth should be theirs also
    (Jupiter loves to be "right")--you can begin to intuit the pos-
    sibilities yourself.
    
    What do the aspects to the last full moon have to do with it?  
    Well, the Sun and Moon in anyone's chart represent the core of the
    self.  And during a full moon is a time when those components can
    get perspective on each other--is my coherent expression of Self
    (Sun) in tune with my inner needs (Moon)?  If the answer has been
    NO, especially in the houses (areas of life) where it falls, full
    moons can feel like a bad time, indeed.  All this, in my feeling,
    makes it more likely that this transiting square will be TAKEN
    PERSONALLY in some way.  It can feel distressing or exhilarating,
    but will, in any case, be meaningful.
    
    Now, there will be things that will increase your susceptibility
    to the transit.  
    
    	One is where the transiting square is taking place;
    	in what houses are Jupiter and Uranus falling?  Are 
    	those houses important in your birth chart?  In my
    	husband's chart, it is falling in the 1st and 4th.
    	This man has never had insomnia, no matter what is
    	going on, and now he can't sleep a night through (1st
    	House influence, the 1st being the physical body.)
    	Also, he has been somewhat driven to work on our house.
    	Nice relaxing weekend begins, and by 8:00 AM he's
    	prowling about looking to finish this project, and
    	start a new one.  I can't keep up with him, suddenly.
    	(4th house can rule your home.)
    
    	Two is: are the signs Pisces, Aquarius, Sagittarius 
    	or Leo important in your chart?  Is your Sun, Moon,
    	Ascendent or ruler of the Ascendent in one of those
    	signs?   Leo is my Ascendent.  Have profound personally
    	important revelations about my inner needs being split
    	off from conscious expression?  H---, yes.
    
    	Three is:  do Jupiter and Uranus aspect each other
    	in your natal chart?  Any transiting aspect between
    	them will call up echoes of the natal aspect and its
    	issues for you.   In my natal chart they form a trine.
    	And it has been true that the good has come along with
    	the bad, even though the revelations themselves have
    	been stressful.  The way to resolve them has come easily.
                      
    	Four is:  do Jupiter or Uranus aspect your Sun or Moon
    	in your natal chart?  This increases the chance that
    	you'll take this desire for change to heart.  My husband's
    	natal Jupiter is conjunct his Sun.  He's always been a
    	hard worker, but now he's working at warp speed, and all
    	his work schedules are heating up.  But at the same time
    	his compassionate listening has suddenly flowered.
    
    	Five is:  is the transit aspecting some of your natal
    	planetary placements?   This is very important, and if
    	it is true for you at this time, you will feel the impact
    	quite powerfully.  This whole constellation aspected both
    	my Sun and Mars, both of which have to do with centeredness
    	of physical vitality (Sun) and physical action (Mars).
    	A while ago, after an incredibly stressful week and busy
    	weekend, which had left me hypered and exhausted at the
    	same time, I thought "Now I know why people get addicted
    	to Valium--glad I don't have any now, because I'd be
    	inclined to want 3 or 4."
    
    As you see, it can get quite complex.  And there will be those of
    you who will notice nothing, or feel the effects only slightly,
    either because none of the above 5 factors apply to you, or because
    you live in this kind of condition constantly.  (I have a couple
    of friends, very Uranian and Jupiterian to begin with, who live
    their whole lives at this pitch of growth and change--I stand in
    awe of them.)
    
    The coming grand fire trine stands to be quite nice later on.  Here
    is where the benefits of the struggles you've undergone this winter
    can be reaped.  You may wonder what you were struggling so hard
    against, if the past months have seemed like they required heroic
    effort.
    
    And those of you who are experiencing more psychic energy these
    days--that's no surprise either.  Uranus in particular is about
    a higher kind of consciousness, and Jupiter is making it possible
    to get into that state in a greatly expanded way.  Keep your pro-
    tections up--especially things that will soothe and ground you.
    
    And I know of no less than 6 people (friends) who are changing jobs.
    Suddenly, too, not just considering.  Or suddenly figuring out what
    their lifework should be and unable to wait to start.  3 of those
    came to me to ask "do I seem to be doing the right thing?"  They
    are, it's just the suddenness with which it's happening that is
    catching them off guard.
    
    Take care all,
    			Marcia