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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

258.0. "Oracle_1 vs Oracle_2" by CSC32::M_BAKER () Fri Dec 05 1986 20:51

    Re 256.2
    
>    However, this raises an interesting question: how effecacious is
>    one form of futurecasting versus another?
    
    Steve, I agree, it is an interesting question.  I'd be interested in 
    hearing from people who have tried more than one form and asked the 
    same question of each.  What kind of results do you get when you do
    this?  

    To paraphrase an old saying: "The person with one oracle knows the
    what the future is.  The person with two oracles is never sure."

    Mike

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258.1Hellloooo out there!!!SATIRE::ENRIGHTMon Dec 08 1986 09:3327
    I am a 51-year-old moderately young reader of this file (just
    discovered it yesterday).  Many strange coincidences have been 
    happening to me over the last 10 years - too many to be 
    coincidences.  I have no explanation - I'm beginning to take them
    for granted (which means I take chances, knowing "something" will
    lead me in the right direction.  I wish I had catalogued them -
    it would make a good book.  The latest one was this week.
    
    Ten years ago I acquired a Real Estate license and went out to
    get rich.  Soon learned it wasn't that easy.  I gave it up, threw
    out all the paraphernalia I had collected, swearing I would never
    do it again.  However, after all the work of getting the license,
    I did keep it up every year.
    
    A month ago, I decided to try it again.  Went looking for anything
    I could find on real estate in my files, but there was nothing there,
    because I had tossed everything out.  
    
    Yesterday, I needed an insulated envelope to mail a cassette tape.
    While looking through the pile of insulated envelopes, I found one
    from the real estate company from which I had purchased my forms
    ten years ago.  They shortened their name, but the address is still
    valid, and the rate books and forms are being sent to me.
    
    Now you can say that's a coincidence; but so many of these have
    happened to me that I'm beginning to take them for granted!
    
258.2The reader is the oracleGRAMPS::LISSESD&P ShrewsburyMon Dec 08 1986 12:437
    Re .0
    
    Perhaps it is the reader that has the sight. The oracle is
    only something to focus one's attention on.
    
    			Fred
     
258.3we are the oracleMSTIME::RABKEMon Dec 08 1986 18:0524
    
    I've tried different types of divination (oracles) Tarot, tea leaves,
    I Ching, Stargate, Bibliomancy (opening the book & reading something)
    and many more.  My personal experience is that I have never had
    2 sources disagree.  Sometimes I wanted the second one to disagree
    because I didn't like the first answer!
    
    At one time I had the same question as you posed so I tried several 
    experiments of laying out a Tarot spread and then using another
    "oracle".  I would never translate what either one of them was saying
    until I had gotten the answer from both as I did not want to prejudice
    either reading by knowing what they had said.  I always got the
    same answer.  In fact, when I am using an unfamilar tool (oracle)
    I verify it with a Tarot spread.
    
    What I have found for me is that some tools work better for me in
    different situations.   That's because some tools tend to trigger
    my intuition in different areas than others do.  
    
    As pointed out in a previous note, it is not so much the tool but
    the user that's the oracle.  We already have the answer but need
    to find a way to reach it.
    
    Jayna
258.4ChoiceBRAT::WALLISTue Dec 09 1986 19:5417
    
    
    Fortelling the future can be tricky because the information picked
    up/predicted can be quite accurate at the time but, and it's a big
    BUT, everthing is subject to choice.  The energy can be strong TOWARD
    a certain outcome but we all can change our own destiny by making
    choices in the right way.  I  prefer to use oracles to look at motives
    and existing conditions to expand my understanding of a situation,
    therefore increasing my chances of making an intelligent decision.
    
    If the energy is focused toward or on a certain aspect of something,
    it will usually reflect consistant data in multiple oracles.  The
    best 'oracle' is trusting and willingness to accept one's own knowing 
    what's  'right'.
    
    
    Lora
258.6TLE::BRETTWed Dec 10 1986 09:4620
    re: .-2 	"accurate at the time BUT"
    
    
    Let me see if I understand this correctly.  You're saying that the
    forecast is "accurate", that the "forces were STRONG", but that
    the future can change?
    
    When one talks about "accuracy" and "STRONG" here, I presume what
    is meant is that if you took a large set of such forecasts that
    most of them would be correct?
    
    Now, about those that aren't correct - why not say that the forecast
    was wrong, rather than saying that the forecast was 'right when
    it was made' and the future changed?
    
    Of course, all the statistical measures of people like Jean Dixon
    and other public forecasters show they are no better than any informed
    person who is judging the future based purely on non-pyschic knowlege.
    
    /Bevin
258.7Qualitative vs. quantitativeBRAT::WALLISWed Dec 10 1986 21:4213
    
    
    
      re .6
    
       > when one talks about "accuracy" and "strong" I presume
         what is ment is that if you took a large set of such
         forcasts that most of them would be correct

         
                 DID I SAY THAT?  :-I
    
    Lora