Conference hydra::dejavu

    	What is the "reason" behind having dreams about spaceships and
    other worlds?
    
    	Is it dream symbolism for something else in the "waking" world,
    or is it actually some sort of psychic travel to other planets?
    If it is the latter - if such things are possible - I would be
    fascinated to know what people who have done this found on other
    worlds!  It definetely beats sublight starship travel!
    
    	Larry
    

Yes, I have dreams involving other worlds and spaceships for as long as I
can remember. 

One dream that I remember particularly well involved a world that was
mostly water, a swamp really. I remember the plot of the dream reading
like a bad romance novel, with lots of scenes of people polling about
in smallish flat bottomed boats.

In other dreams I have been the captain of a space ship, I remember
some sort of mutiny in that one... The thing that struck me about
this dream was how real the interior of the space ship seemed, one
strange thing was plants. I remember lots of house type plants 
growing among the girders and bulkheads of the ship. 

Also I remember one set of dreams in a world where magic was real. I 
was a sorceress. I remember watching with great fasinaction as streaks 
of blue flame leap out of my hands toward the bad guys. More mundane 
dreams along these lines had vampires, werewolves, and 
demons(this was a nightmare). I had one of these types of dreams just 
the other night. I was a vampire. This is the first time in any of these
dreams where I was one of these creatures. It was horrible (shudder). Anyway, 
the interesting thing about the dream was the sensation of shape changing 
I got when I would turn into a bat. I could feel and see my arms transform 
into bat wings. Flying as a bat was different from the flying I normally do 
in dreams as well.

I also travel in time (always into the future) and between dimensions,
into parallel dimensions similar to but not exactly the same as ours.


    

    Regarding the reasons why a person would have these kinds of dreams,
    I have always been taught (freshman psychology) that dreams were
    a sub-concious expression of our wishes and fears.  Many types of
    what I call "spaceship" dreams don't seem to fit into either catagory
    although some do.  The dreams that seem to vividly portray things
    that we do not remember having experienced through life experience,
     reading, or movies especially interests me.  I wonder if any science
    fiction writers base any of their books on their dreams.
    
    

    	Particularly in regards to the comment that spaceships and
    traveling to other worlds does NOT fit into the usual dream symbols
    category, I am seriously wondering if they are pshycic travels to
    other worlds and visions of alien cultures.
    
    	If so, who and where are they?
    
    	Larry
    

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I believe that the "strange" dreams that I have had have come out of the vast 
amounts of fantasy and science fiction that I consume. And I have often 
thought that some of them would make good stories.

Then their was Bram Stoker whom blamed (credited) the invention of Count
Dracula on a dream he had after eating some tainted crab salad.

-vicki


    

    BEING A DIRECTOR OF FIELD INVESTIGATIONS FOR ONE OF THE WORLDS
    LARGEST CIVILLIAN/SCIENTIFIC UFO RESEARCH GROUPS, I HAVE COME
    ACCROSS CASES WHERE TRAUMATIC RECURRING DREAMS HAVE NOT ONLY
    BECOME GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS OF ABDUCTION EXPERIENCES UNDER 
    HYPNOTIC REGRESSION, BUT ALSO PHYSICAL MARKS AND SCARS HAVE 
    BEEN DISCOVERED WHICH NEITHER THE WITNESS NOR ANY FAMILY MEM-
    BERS CAN ACCOUNT FOR.
    
    STEVE(VOLGA::BLANCHARD   EXTRACT:"MUFONI.TXT;1")
    
    

    	The famous Betty and Barney Hill UFO "abduction" case in 1961
    was said to have been originally a dream of Betty's caused by some
    traumatic event (what I do not know exactly), and she "passed on"
    her dreams to Barney, whom she talked to about the experience.
    	It was true that Barney had a sort of rash near his groin -
    which he claims was caused by the aliens placing a disklike object
    there during their medical examination by the aliens - which eventually
    went away.     
    
    	Personally, I am still undecided as to whether the Hills really
    did have a close encounter of the third kind (yes, that is a legitimate
    term for their experience), or a shared traumatic dream.
    
    	But let's keep UFO replies to Dejavu Note 27.
    
    	Larry
    

    	Suppose the human spirit is a plasmoidal creature in symbiosis
    with an animal creature.   We could hypothesize that the plasmoid
    has a means of faster-than-light travel, and can survive any
    atmosphere or environment.   Perhaps your spirit actually does
    go places at night.    The scenes percived by plasmoids (dreamers)
    may be only as substantial as the plasmoid itself  (tenuous enough
    to walk through a wall?)
    	Believers in "thought forms" might say that all science fiction
    worlds have been created as thought forms and might be visited by
    dreamers.   I have had science fiction type dreams (usually after
    reading a lot of fiction.)   I have also had a few "out-of-body-
    experiences" that were quite similar to dreams.
    	Some UFO investigators have theorized that UFO's are temporarily
    materialized thought forms, or plasmoidal creatures.   The boundary
    between dream experience and waking experience may be more fuzzy
    than we usually think. 
    	Events that "UFO abductees" remember under hypnosis, may be
    more akin to dreams than to standard physical events.   This is
    not to say they didn't happen.   I believe that dream events are\]
    REAL in some sense that is not fully understood yet...
    
    Alan.
    

    	There was a short SF story written in the 1950s (I cannot remember
    the title or the author - can anyone help?) about patients in a
    military medical hospital who could mentally transport their physical
    selves to worlds which existed only in their imaginations.  They
    acquired this ability due to radiation they received during battle
    (they were in a world war taking place several hundred years from
    now).  Needless to say, the powers-that-be were trying to capitalize
    on this ability (It'd be a great way to escape the enemy, for example).
    
    	I can't remember how, but the patients had received certain
    amounts of radiation in certain areas of their brains which caused
    this ability to visit imaginary worlds.
    
    	Larry
                                                               

    Re .10:
    
    Can't offhand remember the title, but the author was Alfred Bester.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.