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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
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198.0. "Non-verbal communication" by ORION::HERBERT (Wherever you go, there you are!) Fri Sep 05 1986 20:21

I would like to initiate a discussion on how people communicate non-
verbally in relationships, through body language, and psychically.  If 
you can relate experiences or opinions on this topic, I think it would be 
very interesting.

I've read some things by Ram Dass, too, and he has some very interesting 
things to say.  By using his term "dance", I can say that it seems like 
everyone is doing a unique dance...and it's a form of expression and 
communication.  In communicating, I think it's body-language, ESP, energy, 
etc., all rolled up into one...and it's incredibly powerful. 

There have been a lot of times where I have felt very comfortable with 
someone, and all of a sudden, I'll pick up a facial expression or some
kind of body language that seems to say the person is very uncomfortable.
Then I become uncomfortable and retreat, as not to stir up any more 
"strange" vibes.  It's amazing to me how much non-verbal communication 
there is in the form of body language in our every day lives, and we don't
know much about how to use it effectively to communicate...when words
don't do.

Some other thoughts on non-verbal communication I've wondered about are:  

 - Is it possible to communicate with ANYONE in their "mental space", 
   and if so, does it require making a psychic connection since verbal 
   communication can be inadequate in communicating with some people?

 - When I have a very close connection with someone, I can sometimes
   communicate with them through my eyes by not saying anything.
   Does that mean I'm actually using a form of ESP, and the eyes are
   just a good window?

 - Oh and here's a trippy one...is it possible to communicate with
   myself through time?  For instance, can I send a message to
   myself in the future or the past?

I'd welcome any comments and thoughts you may have.

Jerri
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198.2Thoughts are REAL :^)BRAT::WALLISSat Sep 06 1986 11:5833
     
    
    re .1
     
    From the subtle energy stand point, thoughts and feeling are put
    into the air, they are non-tangibly tangible....words are symbols...
    conveying thoughts - because
    we don't see the thoughts we think there's nothing there...someday
    when vision is clearer we will be able to see these things hanging
    out, yup, right in front of us...depending on how conscious we are
    or aren't we can bump right into them...and as we 'read\  them and
    hear ourselves say them we think they must be ours....cause we 
    aren't talking to anyone...we DON'T THINK we're talking to anyone
    or at least hearing anyone. But we are.
    
    Yes, information is transmitted "magically" by that I mean it
    has form even if we don't hear,see,smell,taste it...and it can
    be transmitted over any distance if the thought is strong enough.
    
    I know if someone doesn't like me, if they're afraid, reacting,
    if they feel love for me, if they think my clothes are funnylooking
    or my hair looks odd.....I know because I ask myself a question
    when I start thinking these same things...."do I have a reason to
    feel this way?"  If yes, I decide what I want to do about it..if
    no, I ask whose thought is this...and I always know, you will know
    that it\s not yours because you'll stop feeling how you were feeling.
    
    We need to love ourselves enough to forgive ourselves when we think
    ill  of our being, and love others enough when they think ill of
    us, cause usually its just that they think ill of themselves.
                                                                 
    
    Lora
198.3Thoughts/CommunicationDYO780::ROARKMon Sep 08 1986 00:0015
    In the early 1970's, Dr John Grinder, Professor of Linguistics at
    the University of California, and Richard Bandler,Gestalt therapist
    and computer expert, studied the behavior of some of the world's
    foremost commucicators to discover what made them so effective.
    From their findings, models have been developed-with specific skills
    and techniques -which provide a highly efficient technology of 
    communication. The technique is called NLP - Neruo Linguistic
    Programming.
    
    Yes thoughts are things.  They can be read.  Ionce roomed with a
    guy who could read a person's thoughts and feelings just as easily
    as I read a book. It was a little unsettling till I got the
    difference between acceptance and approval straight.
    
    --Tim
198.4Silence is goldenOMEGA::YURYANFri Sep 26 1986 23:4017
    I've done a lot of this with friends. At one time , I didn't have
    a phone so me and a friend of mine would comunicate with thoughts.
    It was very affective. I would know when she wanted me to stop by
    for coffe or if she wanted me to bring "that picture" or "That book"
    I've also done some of this with my sister. It was  a little different
    in that we would be having a conversation and since one of us would
    know how the other was going to finish a sentence , we very often
    wouldn't *finish* the sentence and anyone witnessing the conversation
    would be very confused.
    I have done some *talking* to people before I ever met them. I also
    feel that I have spoken to or in some way been aware of a very *old*
    me(may be in my 80s or so) I'm now 28. But I felt that I was able
    to pick up on some of the wisdom that this old person had.
    I would like to try sending and picking up thoughts from people
    I don't know. If you want to try then send me mail first.
    
    Suz
198.5ALTERNATE COMMUNICATION FORMSGRECO::MISTOVICHTue Dec 09 1986 12:4824
198.6get out of my mind!USAT02::CARLSON Fear is the mind killerTue Mar 31 1987 09:278
    My boyfriend 'reads my mind' so well, I have to tell him, "Stop
    it!"  It can be a little unsettling, but most of the time it's
    nice.  Sometimes we'll throw the same phrase at the same moment.
    pretty funny.
    Sometimes I wish I could veil my thoughts a little better.  The
    eyes really are 'windows.'
    
    Theresa
198.7scramblersERASER::KALLISHallowe'en should be legal holidayTue Mar 31 1987 10:1625
    Re .6:
    
    Two examples of a good method can be found in the books _Donovan's
    Brain_ by Kurt Siodmark and _The Demolished Man_ by Alfred Bester,
    both nominally science fiction.
    
    The idea is to haver something, like a banal jingle, running around
    in your head that drowns out other thoughts.
    
    In the Siodmark case, the hero uses a short poem that he recites
    over and over again to himself (silently):
    
                       Amidst the mists
                       And coldest frosts
                       He thrusts his fists 
                       Against the posts
                       And still insists
                       He sees the ghosts.
    
    The Bester version -- the jingle -- is incomplete, but the tune
    was called "Tenser, Said the Tensor," and the final line was "Tension,
    Apprehension, and Dissention have begun."  However, and good, catchy
    fingle should do it.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
198.8Visualization might helpORION::HERBERTAim above moralityTue Mar 31 1987 13:2115
    Re: .6
    
    For awhile, it seemed that Kevin (my husband) could always hear
    what I was thinking.  It was impossible to play jokes on him, or
    keep anything from him, and although that was very interesting,
    it was annoying sometimes.  So I started visualizing myself being
    surrounded by a lead column whenever I didn't want my thoughts to
    seep out, or his to seep in.  It worked very well!  But I wonder
    if I over-did it...these days, he rarely knows what I'm thinking. ;^)

    Jerri

    P.S.  I've been told by some people that I think very loud.  I'm
    sure that can be valuable for something...I just haven't discovered
    what, yet.