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194.1 | UP in the air ... | USHS01::MCALLISTER | I'm only guessing now, mind you. | Fri Aug 22 1986 17:07 | 5 |
| nope, but the cessation of automotive electrical functions (which
naturally includes the engine) was a commonly reported UFO feature.
As to continue crusing without loss of speed, got me.
Dave
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194.2 | Transmission Experts Wanted | INK::KALLIS | | Fri Aug 22 1986 17:14 | 10 |
| Are there auto buffs out there? In some automatics, if the engine
quits, if you're going at a significant rate of speed, the drive
will freewheel to prevent damage. If the car were going straight
(no turns necessary), any cessation of power steering might not
be noticed.
However, if the engine started spontaneously again, _that's_
interesting.
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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194.3 | | HUDSON::STANLEY | Uncle John's Band | Fri Aug 22 1986 17:16 | 7 |
| I had a bad battery cable that broke off at the terminal at an untimely
moment (in a NYC traffic jam on a rainy night). Everything died
just as you mentioned, but we were stopped at the time. I don't
know why everything stopped and then started up with your car. I
wasn't so lucky.
Dave
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194.4 | No mechanical prob. found. | 7481::WILLARD | | Fri Aug 22 1986 17:38 | 8 |
| The unusual thing about this incident is that I had the car
checked out and they couldn't find anything wrong with it.
I sold the car (wow, did I say 8 mos ago, how bout 20 months
ago (I'm losing track of the years))over a year ago, and as
far as I know, it's still running.
Cynthia
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194.5 | We'll never know for sure. | PBSVAX::COOPER | Topher Cooper | Fri Aug 22 1986 18:35 | 23 |
| This is probably another "we'll never know for sure". I'm not an
automobile specialist (i.e., I'm a fair approximation to dead ignorant
about how cars work) but as I understand it, if you kill and restore
the power to the engine while its still turning at moderately high
rev, it will simply start up. In a sense this is what is happening
all the time between spark-plug firings. The purpose of the
starter-engine is to get it reving enough.
Without knowing much about how cars work, I can say that finding
an intermittant fault (expecially a one time fault) in the electrical
system is notoriously hard. I've had an intermittant loose connection
to one of my headlights since I bought my car a couple of years
ago. Every few months that headlight goes out for half an hour
or so. Unless the connection is grossly loose (it doesn't seem
to be) or actually out when its checked, finding the problem would
take a huge amount of effort.
When the mechanic checked your car, its quite likely that (s)he
checked likely connections by giving them a quick tightening to
see if they were loose. This might well have fixed the problem
without him/her noticing it.
Topher
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194.6 | Not to rule out a paranormal cause, but... | EVER11::EKLOF | We're everywhere. | Sat Aug 23 1986 03:15 | 17 |
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This is a WAG, since I don't know all that much about the mechanical
aspects of cars. A car generally has two sources of power - the alternator,
and the battery. While there is inter-connection between them, it would
make sense the alternator drove the ignition system, while feeding the excess
to the battery, while the battery fed everything else, including being a
reserve for the ignition system. If there were somehow a poor connection
from the battery, you would have lost most of your electrical system, while
the alternator continued to supply power to the ignition. Also, power steering
is not electrically driven, and would continue to work as long as the engine
was running.
Also, if the car was powered by a diesel engine, the electrical system
would be superfluous once the engine was running.
Mark
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194.7 | The Saturday Mechanics View. | TPLVAX::DODIER | | Mon Aug 25 1986 11:39 | 18 |
| I'm no car expert but I have heard reference before to something
called a fusible link. This from what I heard is basically like
a big fuse in-line with the cars whole electrical system. It is
usually located on the fire wall of the car. A loose connection
at that could very possibly cause that type of symtom. The result
of hitting a small bump or normal vibration could have re-established
a connection in which case an automatic car can be jump started
if going fast enough. I have personnally jump started an automatic
by pushing it with another car to about 40 mph in neutral and then
shifting to drive or 2nd. You can see for yourself next time your
on the highway, leave the car in drive, turn off the ignition and
then turn it back on and the car will start.
BTW - I'm new to this notes file and know more about cars (which
is'nt much) than I do about parapsycology and the like, but have enjoyed
reading the file for about the past month.
Keep up the good work.................RAYJ
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194.8 | | PHILEM::MATTHEW | | Mon Aug 25 1986 15:51 | 5 |
| hhhmmmmm.....
jus out ta curiosity, was it a dodge... I know I have ghosts in
the dodges I've owned. And they are known for the flakiness of
electrical systems....
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194.9 | Haunted Cars? | INK::KALLIS | | Mon Aug 25 1986 16:06 | 6 |
| re .8:
More likely gremlins than ghosts.
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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194.10 | TIME LOSS? | FRYAR::KPL_MEC | | Mon Aug 25 1986 19:30 | 9 |
| reply to 0.
Not meaning to start a scare on your part. Did you notice
any lack of time from when the incident occured and when your
car "resumed control". Like did you get home later than you normally
would from where you where coming from? Just curious. If so I'll
explain what the thoughts are on that.
brian
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194.11 | ??TIME LOSS?? | 7481::WILLARD | | Wed Aug 27 1986 14:34 | 14 |
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The car was a Chevy Malibu.
Re: Time
I can't say that I was too aware of what time had elapsed when
I got home. I think that the incident threw me for a loop, and
I wasn't concerned with the time. Sorry.
Needless to say, we never had any problems with the car after
that.
I'd be glad to hear your thoughts, though.
Cynthia
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194.12 | Speculation | INK::KALLIS | | Wed Aug 27 1986 15:02 | 9 |
| re .10, .11:
I suspect the thought behind that is the "interrupted journey"
hypothesis, where perhaps a lapse of time might have indicated that
the subject was intercepted by beings with a higher technology,
examined tracelessly, and returned without memories of the incident.
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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194.14 | | FRYAR::KPL_MEC | | Wed Sep 03 1986 09:42 | 10 |
| Sorry for the delayed response. But .12 hit my hypothisis
on the head. The only really way to know if there was any
lapsed time would have been if you remembered when you
got home. Also have you or your husband had any types of
dizziness or any unexplained bruises? Only trying to help
you remember. But maybe remebering will only bring confusion.
I would like to recomend a book on this subject but the
title and author escapes my mind.
brian
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194.15 | DATA START 6-2500 | 25725::KLAES | Avoid a granfalloon. | Tue Sep 09 1986 18:26 | 14 |
| WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IS THAT THE DEFENSE COMPUTERS ARE BECOMING
INTELLIGENT, AND WERE TOYING WITH YOUR CAR AT THAT TIME DURING AN
ELECTROMECHANICAL SYSTEMS ANALYSIS OF THAT SECTOR.
NONE OF YOU, OF COURSE, WILL BE ALLOWED TO ESCAPE WITH THIS
KNOWLEDGE.......
SKYNET/SAC-NORAD 9000
DATA TERMINATION 6-2536
(The above header is just to fool humans into thinking this
is a humorous note written by another human)
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194.16 | I JUST WASHED MY CAR AND CANT DO A THING WITH IT | VOLGA::PROSUP | | Sat Nov 08 1986 11:00 | 7 |
| IN REPLY TO 194.0,.1.....NOT ONLY HAVE MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL
FAILURES OCCURED IN UFO ENCOUNTERS,BUT LOSS OF CONTROL OF SPEED
AND STEERING WITHOUT ADVERSE EFFECTS ie.....accident etc....
steve
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194.17 | a couple of other possibilities. | INSANE::YETMAN | For all you do, Disk bug's for you | Sun Nov 30 1986 02:59 | 51 |
| As someone who is not an expert mechanic but has spent many a
weekend ripping apart cars.....
The battery and the alternator/generator are both power sources to the
engine but do not play separate roles in which parts they supply power
to. The main function of the battery is to crank the engine (via the starter)
and supply some power to the distributor (which fires the spark plugs). Once
the engine is turning at idle speed or higher the alternator/generator
takes over. You can remove the battery of a running car and it will not die
(unless the alternator malfunctions) and you will still have plenty of
power to run the the real important things like your tape deck! :-)
Two other possible causes for such a failure:
EMP: Electro-Magnetic Pulse
EMP is a wave of electro-magnetic energy resultant from a large
release of energy near by. The most common example of an energy release
that can cause EMP is LIGHTNING (a more drastic example would be a nuclear
detonation!). EMP is quite capable of raising all sorts of hell with engines
and other electro-mechanical devices such as computers! I was driving my car
through a particularly bad lightning storm once when a bolt of lightning struck
about 1/4 mile away. The engine, lights, etc.. went dead for about 5 seconds
( as well as leaving some spots in my eyes). After about 5 seconds the car
just continued as if nothing happened. This would be expected because the motor
is still turning. The reason why the power steering continues to work is
because it is a mechanical unit only and is not effected by the EMP.
This is not to say there was lightning near by but that some other
force may have caused a pulse which was large enough to knock out your engine.
Another possibility would be if your car has electronic ignition. There
were some known problems with early electronic ignitions if someone was
transmitting an extremely powerful radio signal nearby. Such would be the
case if someone within a mile or so had a CB radio equipped with a high power
(and highly illegal) amplifier. The result would be similar to that of the
EMP. There were only certain frequencies that would cause this behavior and
I'm not sure but I'll bet they were in the 27MHZ range.
I'll bet there are a lot of other possibilities such as an intermittent
connection (mentioned in an earlier note), etc... or maybe, just maybe, you
entered the twilight zone! :-)
Chris.
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