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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

40.0. ""Un"-Natural Phenomena" by PEN::KALLIS () Thu Nov 07 1985 12:52

	    In Renaissance Europe, scholars ("natural philosophers") discounted
stories from peasants of stones falling from the sky.  Nowadays, we 
understand that meteors do indeed fall, and the idea of stones from the 
blue makes a lot of sense.
	    Given that, let's keep an open ind to strange _natural_ phenomena
that may at first seem noncredible, but which may in fact be otherwise.
	    Are there any phenomena that seem "strange" or "supernatural"
that you might wish to speculate on?  This is the note for it.
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40.1PEN::KALLISThu Nov 07 1985 13:0315
	Just to kick things off:

	Sea serpents, Loch Ness monsters, and things of that ilk have for
years been treated as pure superstition, hallucinations, or fairy tales.
The best model of a sea serpent seems to be an aquatic, long-necked dino-
saurlike creature.  The same is true for reported sightings of a Loch Ness
creature.  However, the dinosaurs are all extinct, some say due to aa clim-
atic change.  However, the coelacanth, once thought to be extinct, has been
fiound still thriving in some quarters; the turtles (chelonians) predated
some dinosaurs, and the crocodilians (alligators, crocodiles, and gavials)
were contemporary with them.
	Therefore, it's possible that these bits of "exotic zoology" may
still exist.

Steve Kallis, Jr.
40.2stranger than fiction...KERNEL::PEWTERTue Nov 15 1988 06:0911
    
    
    Freak weather conditions can cause lots of apparently un-natural
    happenings. Stones have been lifted from one area and deposited
    hundreds of miles away. Parts of the south of England were covered
    with sand from the Sahara last year. I have even heard of toads
    being unceremoniously dumped miles from home. Imagine this happening
    a couple of hundred years ago and the reaction it would have got.
    Ignorance helps feed fear.
    
    
40.3and another 3 years later...SWSUP3::MILLERRMon Sep 16 1991 12:3820
    My family vacationed in British Columbia several years ago, on our
    way to the coast we stopped at Lake Penticton in South Eastern B.C.,
    to do a little fishing. It was cool and breezy (early July), and I
    wasn't having much luck fishing when I saw a "wave" travelling around
    the point of land I was fishing from. The "wave" was about 30' long,
    and moved very slowly...I concluded after watching several minutes
    it had to be the wake of something LARGE just below the surface,
    I started casting at it (maybe snag it or something), and followed it
    for 20-30 minutes, then watched it pass out of sight. The next day
    we rented a small boat and went further out onto the lake to try to
    better our fishing luck, but still not even a bite. We finally gave
    up for the day and took the boat back to the owner of the facility,
    and as I was paying him I asked him what types of LARGE fish/animal
    life grew in the lake. He asked me what I meant (somewhat surprised)
    and I told him about what I'd seen the day before, he started laughing,
    accused me of trying to "start that stuff again", etc. Finally after
    protesting my inocence, he told me that MANY people had "seen" this
    creature...Old indian legend, etc. and more laughing. I never did
    find out what I saw though...
    
40.4its called Ogopogo....KAOFS::RODERMONDMon Sep 16 1991 13:1110
RE:-1

Sounds like you are talking about Lake Okonagan.  The city of Penticton is on 
the southern end of this lake.

This lake contains a creature called "Ogopogo".  Looks somthing like the in
Loch Ness.  Scientists deny the existence of this creature despite numerous 
sightings, fuzzy photos and shaky vide-tape.

Fred
40.5Where'd they get Ogopogo ?SWSUP3::KURTZTue Sep 17 1991 18:594
    If I'd known about that before we went out in a boat (especially
    as choppy as it was ), I don't think we would have gone...
    (especially without a camera, ;'})
    Ron
40.6Notes Files Natural or Un?MIST::MCGANNWed May 20 1992 15:0112
    I Think this is the perfect topic for my following question.  I
    log into Dejavu now and again, and each time the topic that first
    appears on my screen is always relevant to that day.  For example,
    Tuesday night's my husband and I have recently formed/attend a dream
    workshop (with one other couple) and when I logged in yesterday
    up popped The Hag in The Night and similar stories regarding dreams.
    And of course today, when my intention was to ask the follwing (really)
    question, what should pop up for me to read but, Un-natural Phenomena!
    
    Has anyone else experienced these synchronicities related to Dejavu?
    
    Kat