Conference hydra::dejavu

"Five to one, baby, one in five, no one here gets out alive.."

- Jim Morrison of The Doors

Tom

It's one of the sacred (strange) numbers of the Illuminati.

Tamzen

re: .2

What is the Illuminati?

		Dave

re .3: 

The Illuminati are/were a secret sect that could be used as a model for
a D&D game developed by a paranoid [:-)].  Seriously, there have been several
groups who have been characterized as "Illuminati," either by others or by
self-proclamation.  Legendary Illuminati were workers-behind-the-scenes; puppet
masters, as it were.

I was sort of shying away from "5" as used by organizations; the Pythagoreans,
for instance, felt 5 an important number, and Apollonius of Tyana (who was
a Pythagorean) was informed of the fifth "element" on his incursion into India;
this could be treated as another "5" aspect, if one was of a mind to do so.

Steve Kallis, Jr.

    Five is also an interesting number astrologically.  The circle of
    the zodiac can be divided by 5 to yeild a little-known aspect called
    the Quintile.  It is supposed to be indicative of a special, subtle
    talent.  The nature of the talent can be intuited by looking at
    the planets involved.  For instance a Quintile between Mercury and
    Neptune indicates that you have some unique way of combining the
    other-worldly consciousness of Neptune with your everyday, practical
    mode of thought and communication.  How that actually *manifests*
    is VERY difficult to pin down.  In one person it could mean psychic
    talent, in another a talent for writing poetry, in another a talent
    for working with the hands (Mercury is said to rule the hands),
    a talent for nonverbal means of communication like the dance or
    music.
    
    Five is considered a special, very "human" number, and the Qunitle
    is special because it often seems to operate in a paranormal fashion.
    What most astrologers of my aquaintance seem to believe is that
    it only *seems* paranormal--it is actually the five senses operating
    together as a cohesive unit (something they rarely do) that elevates
    the person's abilities represented by the two planets out of the
    ordinary.
    
    The Qunitile's manifestations are quite elusive, also.  Some believe
    that we only manifest them if we are tuned into the higher levels
    of our Soul.  A more mundane way to manifest them seems to happen
    when you have been under such stress that you finally relinquish
    your ordinary controls and allow a certain "drifting" to take place.
    It is then that the genius seems to come to your rescue, not be
    taking you out of your situation, but by showing you something
    completely different.  I know from some personal experience that
    they are not readily amenable to the conscious application of the
    will that ordinary endeavors yield to.
    
    Marcia

    As a Gemini (5th month) with 5!planets in Gemini, 5 seems quite
    tolerable. It appers to me to be a 'generator' number... that is,
    an energy-stimulator; a trigger; a start-button.
    
    - Boleslaw

    If you put five soap bubbles together in a circle and look in the
    middle, you'll see a five-sided object...like a pentacle...
    
    then there's the Pentagon, so I certainly hope 5 is a number that
    brings with it, goodness! (and not necessarily a  "start-button"
    in this case ;-) sorry, couldn't resist)

    7 IS A GOOD NUMBER ALSO 
    LUCK
    7 SISTERS  [STAR FORMATION]
    ECT
    

    I refer you to dejavu note number 1189 that refers to the fifth
    in music.
    
    I also wrote a reply there having to do with meaning behind five
    that I got from a book on Ceremonial Magick (intense stuff!!).
    
    A Pyramid, with all its mysticism is a five sided object.
    
    jp.