Conference 7.286::sports_90

    
    Can you use answers from other questions?  For example the question as
    to my favorite date the correct answer is wears spikes to bed.
    

    And you didn't leave any room for multiple choice answers!  (I watch
    sports at all 3 places)
    
    ML

When the Red Sox lost the Series in 86, I climbed the Travellers
Tower and shot everyone and everything I could......

'Saw

    When Carolina lost to the dreaded Hucksters in '84 I was watching it on
    tape delay in the wee hours of the morning with my girlfriend.  When
    defeat reared its ugly head I took the cable changer and threw it at
    full velocity at a nearby chair.  Unfortunately, like a Roger Clemens
    fast ball, the sucker took off on me and smashed into the wall above 
    said chair, smashing into a billion or so pieces.
    
    Amazingly, this girlfriend still ended up marrying me and even bore
    me a child (with another on the way).  (Now she wisely stays clear and
    removes all breakables from the room when da Heels are on...)
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    
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    Hope she doesn't let you hold the baby when the game is on.
    

   Good Quiz, Dickster!

   I answered all questions troofully, and still ended up with a 31

   Mike JN

    re .5
    
    >When Carolina lost to teh dreaded Hucksters in '84...
    
    What courage is musta took for somebody humiliated like you were to
    publicly confess to how mortifiying this abject failure was to you.
    
    I applaud you forthrightness, it's healthy to get these things out!
    Also, I applaud what a loser that self-aggrandizing overrated bum of
    a tent preacher 'Snuffy Smif' is!  Bravo!
    
    And for you to admit that you were able to attract a wife based on your
    deep admiration for such qualities only further enhances my already
    deep understanding of the program.
    
    When *I* watched that '84 game, I had two reactions:
    
    1. Revelation of genius.  Yes, it was like the time I read a chapter in
       a physics book that finally gave me at least an approximate mental 
       picture of Einstein's theory of relativity and how it worked.  When I
       watched the slow-footed Dan Dakich take Air Jordan to school, I and
       my fellow Hoosier alums (crowded around a TV set in a bar in the East
       Village in NYC) kept gasping and remarking on the piercing beams of 
       light that seemed to thrust from Bob's clear blue eyes courtside.  
    
       We watched genius in action, no doubt the greatest single coaching
       achievement in the history of sport  Even more pleasurable, we
       witnessed the total rape, descrediting, and humilation of a Jerry
       Falwell-lookalike TV darling, and saw his confused brow knitted up
       with concern and fake calmness and his veins filled with shame (and
       his players' with utter disrespect and contempt).
    
    2. Frivolty and Laughter
    
       Yes, it was like robbing a bank and then throwing a laughing gas 
       party in the getaway van.  What could be funnier than the confusion
       on poor Smif's less-than-intelligent face?  Haw haw.  Anything in
       the world than the tears in poor Michael Jordan's eyes that night,
       his trembling lip screaming "I'm toiling for a_idiot!"  Oh, then
       some wiseacre pulled out his johnson and waved it at the TV and
       screamed "name *this* after Dean Smith, idolators!"
    
    Good clean fun we had that night I'll tellya.  And at the expense of a 
    more deserving bunch a losers than ever thought possible.  But, then we
    quit guffawing and cracking greenteef hillbilly jokes when Bob came on
    for the postgame, and all knelt around the TV, bowed our haids, and 
    prayed homage to His Genius.
    
    Congrat's on your abject confession, ACCrook!  
    
    Steel, "best team ever in college basketball."  Haaaa.
    
    Best coach is more like it.
    
    Big10 Tom  

    Oh, yes, that was a most divine and inspired victory that night, T.
    
    Bob Knight reached for the heavens and found glory.   He was truly the
    best coach in the land on that night.
    
    Of course, he did come slightly back down to earth two days later at
    the hands of yet another ACC team.   This time The General had another
    genius facing him down.  No such looks of puzzled bewilderment on Mr.
    Holland's brilliant countenance.
    
    *That* NCAA victory, 50-48 over the Hoosiers, was far, far more
    satisfying than any of the Ralph Sampson-led wins.   It cemented Terry
    Holland's name in the Pantheonic legends of NCAA history.
    
    Poor Jim Boeheim was hopelessly overmatched in the brains department
    during that regional, wouldn't you say ???
    
    Bob Hunt

    Are you talking about that great coach Terry Holland of Virginia fame?
    And are you talking about that great saviour RRRRRalphhh Sampson?
    I believe those two choked more titles away than Bob Knight and
    Dean Smith combined!!!
    

    � And are you talking about that great saviour RRRRRalphhh Sampson?
    
    No, I was *not* talking about Ralph Sampson.  I was talking about one
    game, the 1984 East Region final.  Sampson was a Houston Rocket at that
    time.  Sampson's difficulties in the truly *huge* college games are
    well-documented and have been rehashed and analyzed to death.  If you
    want to tell us all again for about the thousandth time that Ralph had
    trouble when it came time to put up, please go right ahead.  You won't
    mind if I fall asleep while you're doin' it, willya ???
    
    � I believe those two choked more titles away than Bob Knight and Dean
    � Smith combined!!!
    
    Just to make sure we look at facts, Raplh Sampson was a student a
    Virginia for four years.  He played basketball in each of those years.  
    That gave him a total of four chances to win an NCAA title.   
    
    In 1980, Virginia went to the NIT and won it.  So we certainly can't
    call that a NCAA choke, now can we ???   Can't choke if ya ain't there.
    
    In 1981, Virginia went to the Final Four in Philadelphia.  There they
    ran into a UNC team they had already beaten twice before that season. 
    The third time was not to be.  Want to call it a choke ???  Fine.   It
    was (and remains) the Wahoos' finest ever season.   Think the UConn
    fans will remember 1990 forever ???  Well, Cavalier fans will always
    cherish 1981.
    
    In 1982, Virginia, in the Sweet Sixteen round, lost by 2 points to Gene
    Bartow's Alabama-Birmingham Blazers.   What some people fail to recall
    is that that game was played on UAB's home court in Birmingham,
    Alabama.  Want to call that one a choke ???  Fine, again.   The NCAA
    has since mandated that this situation cannot occur again.  Fat lotta
    good it did the '82 Wahoos, though.
    
    And lastly, in 1983, the Cavaliers lost in the West Region finals by a
    single point, 63-62, to the Cinderella NC State Wolfpack.  I presume
    you recall that NC State had a coupla more dates with destiny that
    year.   Want to call that one a choke ???   Sure, go ahead.   Ralph
    sank a jumper in the lane about half-a-tick after the clock hit triple
    zeroes.   I know, I know ...  if "ifs" and "buts" were beer and nuts,
    we'd have a helluva party.   But, if Holland and Sampson choked that
    year, then I'd think they'd have to line up behind Guy Lewis and Phi
    Slamma Jamma.  Cougar High swallowed the biggest of all fishbones that
    year.
    
    So, let's recap, shall we ???   First year was a no-show to the big
    dance, second year was the impossible task of beating a team three
    times, third year was a home court disadvantage, and the fourth year
    was a date with the Prince when Cinderella showed up all of a sudden. 
    Excuses ???  Sure.   Reality ???  Yep.
    
    Bob Knight rarely, if ever, chokes away NCAA titles.  He's got three of
    'em.  More than any other active coach, I believe.  And nobody chokes
    away more titles than Dean Smith.  1984 was just his worst choke ever. 
    He's got a l-o-n-g and "excellent" history of coughin' up the big ones.
    
    Bob Hunt

    While we're jogging all our collective memories, could I throw in the
    fact that Kenny Smith was playing that game against the Hucksters in
    '84 with a frockin' *cast* on his wrist?!  Once Kenny went down we were
    never the same team, which isn't surprising considering he was our
    point guard, and a pretty darn good one at that.
    
    Bob, you can imply that all those Virginia losses weren't chokes
    because of various circumstances, but can you in the same breath call
    the Carolina loss in '84 a choke given our own extenuating situation?!
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    � While we're jogging all our collective memories, could I throw in the
    � fact that Kenny Smith was playing that game against the Hucksters in
    � '84 with a frockin' *cast* on his wrist?!  
    
    No, you can't.  Sorry, dem's da berries.  Dean Smith's obscene
    successes in recruiting his stud hoopsters cancels out any excuses you
    might conjure up.
    
    � Once Kenny went down we were never the same team, which isn't
    � surprising considering he was our point guard, and a pretty darn good
    � one at that.
    
    Yeah, a team with Jordan, Perkins, and Daugherty just wasn't the same
    after poor Kenny got his wrist all boo-booed.   Smith had any number
    of Parade All-Americans point guards riding pine who should have been
    able to step in and pick up where Kenny left off.  "Pick up", of
    course, meant holding the ball in your hand for about, oh, 2 or 3
    nanoseconds before passing it off to Michael like a good little boy.
    
    Or didn't Da Rev plan for such a contingency ???  I thought Michael
    played the point spectacularly two seasons ago when the Bulls asked him
    to do it.  Do you suppose that it didn't occur to Da Rev to ask Michael
    to play point for a night ???   Shameful.
    
    � Bob, you can imply that all those Virginia losses weren't chokes
    � because of various circumstances, but can you in the same breath call
    � the Carolina loss in '84 a choke given our own extenuating situation?!
    
    I didn't imply that the UVA losses were *NOT* chokes.  What I said was
    that if people want to label them as such, then go right ahead.  The
    games are all in the books now and whatever people want to call them
    now won't change the results of back then.
    
    And, yes, I can call UNC's loss in 1984 a choke.   Because it was.
    
    Bob Hunt

I guess Kindler and Gentler just took a walk ;-)

Dean will have four more chances to choke. He's now recruited one of the
best groups to high school All Americans this side of the Wooden years at
UCLA. We shall see how well they do.

TTom

    > I can call UNC's loss in 84 a choke.  Because it was.
    
    Fine and dandy then.  And as you say, it's all in the books anyway.
    Carolina is still the premier college basketball program in the country, 
    Dean Smith is still in the HoF, and I'm still looking forward to watching 
    some of the most talented hoop players on the planet log lots of PT 
    while wearing good ole baby blue and leading us to a whole heapful of
    W's.  
    
    
    - ACC Chris

.15� Dean Smith is still in the HoF, and I'm still looking forward to watching 
.15� some of the most talented hoop players on the planet log lots of PT 
.15� while wearing good ole baby blue and leading us to a whole heapful of
.15� W's.  

	And a heapful of excellent L's

				/Don

Gee, I guess you guys are addicted alright.

Addicted to the crack-pipe of the old "which college team/coach is better".

The real MrT has returned, or perhaps it's just another of the "Three Faces
of T" showing through.  ACC Chris is running the Rev Smif' Revival
Meetin', and the rest are jumpin' on the bandwagon.

Don't get me wrong -- I love it.  It wouldn't be SPORTS wifout it....

TGIF,
'Saw

    >Carolina is still the premier collge hoops program in the country.
    
    Ha ha HAAA !!
    
    *God* what a SICK twisted perverted diseased statement this is!
    
    The Star Heels have managed to win a grand total of one Titles over
    the past 30 or so years... but, hey!, let's not belittle all those
    excellent losses.  I for one am elated at 'Snuff's excellent recruiting
    year, cuz when he has the awesome talent he does what his special thing
    at its best [squander].
    
    Imagine, Jordan/Perkins/Daugherty on a single team, they get beat by
    a bunch of clubfooted-but-well-drilled honkie grad students, and ACCaught
    comes 'round moaning about poor Kenny's cast.  
    
    Extra special question: Did the idolator crowd down there decide to
    name the Dome after His Losership immediately after this wretched but
    stunning example of poor leadership in '84?  [probly]
    
    Big10 Tom

    Regarding .8, it's obvious that a certain bad element in here
    lacks the requisite maturity to create and maintain a_environment in 
    which a noter cain share/care his emotional experiences without fear of
    abuse.
    
    
    - ACC Chris

Let's put the Dean Dome in it's place:

The Dean Dome was built by private funds doled out willingly by the
zealous fans, alumni and other admirers of Tar Heel basketball. During
the fund raising, it was suggested that it be named after Deano Hisself.
At this point, the $100 million or so poured in faster than you can say
Baby Blue Artist Choke (tm). 

Dean said he didn't like the name but did nothing to dissuade it, either.
The name stuck and bingo, a_idolatrous temple was born. And everyone is
happy: the faithful love it and the others love to bring it up.

FWIW, Dean didn't want to move out of Carmichael Hall. And the group that
got really screwed on the move were the students. They had great seats
and now they got not-so-great.

But let's make one point perfectly clear: Tar Heel basketball fans are
not sports fans. When the hoops season is over, they drop out. When the
Heels lose in the tournament, they go home. If anybody wants good seats
to an ACC game, wait outside after a Tar Heel loss and you can pick up
the Tar Heel tickets as they head home.

TTom

    Carmichael was one helluva an intimidating pit.   That place spooked a
    lot of teams.
    
    I was happy when the Heels moved out of it.
    
    Bob Hunt

    > honkie grad students.
    
    Now, now, was that really necessary ????
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.

>
>    > honkie grad students.
>    
>    Now, now, was that really necessary ????
    
Sure it was.  That's an inimitable T-ism.  And it's probably pretty
close to da troof too...8^)

In fack, it reminds me of that song by Elton JOhn -- "Get Back Honky Grad
Student"......

'Saw

    Without question Carmichael gave us a huge homecourt edge, compared to
    the minimal advantage served at the DD.  Still, our winning % at home
    since moving in is upwards of 90%.  
    
    On the issue of the students getting screwed, I can't totally agree.  
    While their seats aren't the greatest now, you can sure fit a heckuva 
    lot more of 'em in. 
    
    And by the way, I don't disagree with TTom about the quality of Tar
    Heel fans.  (Obviously I don't put myself in this category.  :^) )
    The fat cat alum's sit on their MrT-sized butts (seats are cushioned
    for 'em, of course) and applaud politely when Carolina walks off with
    another win.  Meanwhile the real fans are going crazy up in the cheap
    seats or screaming like madmen whilst sitting in front of the tube at
    home, even occasionally demolishing perfectly good electronic equipment
    over the occasional loss.
    
    Go figure.
    
    
    - ACC Chris