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Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
Last Modified:Fri Dec 17 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:438
Total number of notes:50420

182.0. "The Big West Conference note" by FTMUDG::DUGGAN () Wed Mar 14 1990 14:29

    The Big West Conference. 
    
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182.1... but names will never hurt me.FTMUDG::DUGGANWed Mar 14 1990 14:334
    The Big West conference. UNLV and the nine dwarves. The Rebels, the
    Aggies #1, the Aggies #2, the 49'ers. The AArdvarks (oops... meant 
    Anteaters.) The Gauchos. The Spartans. If nothing else, the Big West 
    HAS to be the champ nickname conference.  
182.2ACTING::MACGREGORWed Mar 14 1990 14:387
    >If nothing else, the Big West HAS to be the champ nickname conference.
    
    I think you mean chump.
    
    Hope this helps.  8^)
    
    The Wizard
182.3New Mexico State UniversityFTMUDG::DUGGANWed Mar 14 1990 14:4221
    To reply to a note in another topic; as to whom the Aggies have beaten
    this year:
               NCAA teams
    UNLV
    UTEP
    Texas Southern (did they finally make it into the Baile Grande, or was
    	it Southern Univ.?)
    Cal-Santa Barbara
    Towson State
    
    	       NIT Teams
    New Mexico (twice)
    Long Beach State
    
    Are the Aggies Sweet Sixteen material? Yes. Are they Final Four
    material? They can beat any team in the country, and are fairly
    consistent. They are not unbeatable. I do not think they will make the
    F4 (they might not even win the first game) but they are a good team.
    
    
    ...mike the Aggie
182.4PSG::ALVIDREZCalifornia gives folks a fair shakeWed Mar 14 1990 18:1411

Since Long Beach State did make it to the finals with UNLV, they should
have been asked to the tourney.  Instead, UCSB got the bid.  I know the
Gauchos beat UNLV during the season, but jeez, they lost to Pacific in
the tournament.  Outside of Isla Vista, these guys aren't that good.

Anyway, Go Grouchos!

I know this doesn't help
AAA
182.5FTMUDG::DUGGANThu Mar 15 1990 07:3710
    I agree. From what I've heard, the Big West shot itself in the foot by
    scheduling its tournament so late. I hope they got enough from ESPN to
    offset the prestige (and the $286,000) that they lost by not having
    four teams in the Baile Grande.
    
    You can bet that next year they'll end the Big West tournament earlier,
    no matter what ESPN offers.
    
    ...mike
    
182.6Gary Colson at Fresno StateFTMUDG::DUGGANTue Mar 20 1990 10:1926
    Gary Coulson is the new Fresno State coach.
    
    This means the following: Fresno State will graduate 80% of its
    basketball players during Colson's tenure. They will win 20+ games
    during this time. They will not go to the NCAA's during his entire time
    there.
    
    (All figures are an extension of his career at Pepperdina and New
    Mexico).
    
    Colson is a class act, especially concerning his attitude towards his
    players. They are true STUDENT-athletes. He institutes study halls and
    curfews. His players like that.
    
    -BUT- He also will schedule 15 games per year -- at home -- with the 
    Stetson Hatters, the Howard Paynes, the Centenaries, the Towson States 
    (until they get good, then he'll drop them from the schedule.) This was 
    his style at UNM. To give him credit, he also scheduled Arizona -- when
    Az. was #1 -- and UCLA in Pauley Pavilion -- and won both games.
    
    Gary Colson has over 500 career victories. He has never been to the
    Baile Grande, the Big Dance, the NCAA Tournament. 
    
    
    ...mike
    
182.7A New Mexico Lobo fan..ELMAGO::RBARELAWed Mar 21 1990 13:4013
    Prediction!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    Fresno State will be up by 6 with 8 minutes to go and they will
    perform one of Colson's favorite tricks to lose a game.......
    
    
    
    STALL and (try to) hold the ball.
    
    
    8-)  hope this helps
182.8FTMUDG::DUGGANWed Mar 21 1990 15:003
    (you've been to the Pit too, eh?!)
    
    ...mike
182.9GO BIG WEST!FTMUDG::DUGGANTue Apr 03 1990 08:3715
    The Big West conference retaliated against the NCAA's petty politics by
    running away with the NCAA Tournament title last night.
    
    A more amazing display of defense has never been seen in the
    tournament. UNLV set records for the most points scored in a
    tournament, most points scored in a title game, and largest margin of
    victory.
    
    Even though the NCAA tried to squelch this style of ball by
    high-grading the tournament and blatant discrimination against Big
    West teams, the Western style of run-and-run-and-gun (and run) proved
    to be superior to Eastern somnia or football-in-skivvies. Get used to
    it; even the eastern teams will have to run to keep up.
    
    ...mike the Aggie
182.10NCAA petty politics ???SHALOT::HUNTA single ping please, Vasily.Tue Apr 03 1990 09:126
Vegas was a top seed, were they not ???

Tell me how this translates into the NCAA discriminating against Western
teams, please.

Bob Hunt
182.111 win does not superiority make..WXYZ::METZGERZeese trophies are not for bowling...Tue Apr 03 1990 09:2810
UNLV wins one title and now we have a statement like this... 

     the Western style of run-and-run-and-gun (and run) proved
    to be superior to Eastern somnia or football-in-skivvies. Get used to
    it; even the eastern teams will have to run to keep up.

Talk to me when the western teams win 3-4 ncaa titles in a row....

Metz
182.12This is why.FTMUDG::DUGGANTue Apr 03 1990 09:4013
    Re .10:
    
    1) Long Beach State getting jobbed out of the tournament in favor of an
    Eastern team (Indiana is east for us Westerners) because the BigWest 
    championship game wasn't over when the selections were made.
    
    2) The Loyola Marymount-New Mexico State first round game was the ONLY
    first round game between two Top 25 teams.
    
    Can you say "Politics"? I knew you could.
    
    
    ...mike the Aggie
182.13FTMUDG::DUGGANTue Apr 03 1990 09:414
    re .11: O.K. I'll talk to you in two years.
    
    ...mike
    
182.14LUNER::BROOKSNo, idiot ! Not Bush ...BROOKS !Tue Apr 03 1990 09:534
    Well said Mike .... in addition don't forget the great showing by
    Loyola, along with the brillance of Arkansas, Texas and Xaiver U.
    
    East Coast/Mid West Bigots can see the results and weep !
182.15JUPITR::MOKCharles P. MokTue Apr 03 1990 10:2510
    When did Arkansas and Texas moved their campus west?  And Xavier is in
    Ohio (aka Midwest)....  What do all these teams have to do with the
    West, the Big West or even run-and-gun?
    
    UNLV was the best team in the tournament.  But that does not mean *all*
    west coast teams are better than other teams.  49ers dominating
    football does not been that the Chargers are also powerhouse by virtue
    of being on the same coast.
    
    Charles
182.16AXIS::ROBICHAUDDockers...Pants for |CENSORED|sTue Apr 03 1990 11:044
    	Hey Charles didn't you read the title of this note.  Big West.
    Maybe that includes teams up to the Atlantic ocean.
    
    				/Don