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160.1 | 1990 draft choices | HPSRAD::SANTOS | A monster is being built. | Wed Feb 21 1990 13:00 | 27 |
| 1990 draft picks by rounds (number in parenthesis is the overall pick number)
Cowboys have 14 picks total (plus Walsh).
Current Picks
RND
1 #1 (1) Steve Walsh, #21-(21)from Minn. for Herschel
2 #1 (26) #22 (47)from Minn. for Herschel
3 #15 (68)from KC for Pelluer #26 (74)from Den for Kevin Brooks
4 nothing
5 #11 (120) from Miami for Scott Secules
6 #1 (136) #21 (158)from Minn for Herschel #27 (164)from NYG for DeOssie
7 #1 (166)
8 nothing
9 #1 (222) #10 (231) from Seatle for Daryle Smith
10 #11 (260) from Indy for Zefros Moss
11 #1 (288)
12 #1 Mike Lowman (89 supp. draft)(out of football)
Picks traded away
RND
3 #1 (54) to Minn. in Herschel trade
4 #1 (82) to Den in Kevin Brooks trade.
5 #1 (110) to Wash for Dean Hamel
8 #1 (194) to Det. for Paul Palmer
10 #1 (250) to Minn. in Herschel trade
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160.2 | | COMET::MONTGOMERY | A BIG 8^) | Wed Feb 21 1990 15:00 | 9 |
| I thought that the Donk's still had to give the Cowboys draft picks from
the Tony D. Deal???? Seems like so many yards for said pick... Of course
he really has not done anything except cost them money since coming to
Denver.....
Monty
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160.3 | a done deal | STAR::YANKOWSKAS | Paul Yankowskas | Wed Feb 21 1990 15:03 | 7 |
| re .2:
Denver gave Dallas their 1989 fifth round pick, I think that's all the
Broncos had to give up for Dorsett.
py
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160.4 | Comments from Johnson | AUSTIN::MACNEAL | Big Mac | Wed Feb 21 1990 15:50 | 12 |
| Coach Johnson is looking to have more say in the Cowboys' football
operation. He wants to play a large part in the draft selections, will
be the offensive coordinator, and will try to participate more in the
other aspects of management. He says that he is looking for a big
running back in the draft. When asked why they let their QB coach go
with no attempt at keeping him (despite him being credited with
Aikman's development) he said that he will not stand in the way of
anyone doing what they want to do. He also said that this team is not
being put together just to showcase Aikman. He said that when he took
over the team did revolve around one player (probably referring to
Walker) and was a loser. This is a team game and that was the way he
was going to coach it.
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160.5 | can't wait for the draft | HPSRAD::SANTOS | A monster is being built. | Wed Feb 21 1990 17:02 | 13 |
|
Johnson also says he'll listen to offers for Walsh but does not want
draft choices. He wants a player(s) and hes not in a rush to make the
trade because of the way Walsh's 4 year contract was structured. Walsh
got a big signing bounus but not much money the 1st year, he gets a
little more money the second year but the bulk of contract is to be paid
over the 3rd and 4th year.
I still think Walsh will be traded to the Vikings for either Browner
or Doleman. Doleman makes the most sense for the Vikes because with
all the other good D linemen they have he would be missed the least.
Chuck
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160.6 | | RAVEN1::D_SMITH | | Wed Feb 21 1990 20:35 | 10 |
|
What is the date and the time of the draft?
Cowboys fan since the seventies,
David
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160.7 | That's When! | RAVEN1::B_ADAMS | Nascar 90' is underway! | Wed Feb 21 1990 21:06 | 9 |
| .6� What is the date and the time of the draft?
For Dallas...
It's Doomsday! Feb.29th...
If you look hard enough, you'll see there is no 29th :*)
B.A.
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160.8 | | FSHQA1::JHENDRY | John Hendry, DTN 292-2170 | Thu Feb 22 1990 09:07 | 5 |
| It is either Sunday, April 22 or Sunday, April 29 beginning at 10AM.
They generally get through the first 6 rounds on Sunday. The next
6 rounds will be the next day.
John
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160.9 | April 22 | HPSRAD::SANTOS | A monster is being built. | Thu Feb 22 1990 09:33 | 0 |
160.10 | | JULIET::MAY_BR | Wimp football rules! | Thu Feb 22 1990 11:48 | 2 |
|
Cowboys and 49ers also have had talks about Walsh.
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160.11 | | MUSKIE::WIERSBECK | The Fabulous MN Barking Ducks | Sat Feb 24 1990 13:56 | 7 |
| Re: .5
There is no way in the world the Vikes will trade Doleman for Walsh,
I can assure you.
Spud
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160.12 | Cowboys and Plan B | AUSTIN::MACNEAL | Big Mac | Mon Mar 05 1990 11:19 | 8 |
| The Cowboys are jumping into the Plan B players pool with both feet.
Their most notable aquisition to date is ex-Bear WR Dennis McKinnon.
With both of their starting WR going down with knee injuries last year,
the 'boys were looking for experienced help in this area. They also
picked up a couple of running backs, some OL help, and a linebacker or
two (one from the Pats). Johnson said he took a look at the
improvement of teams like Green Bay and KC who signed a large number of
Plan B players last year and wants to emulate their improvement.
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160.13 | cowboys plan B acquisitions | HPSRAD::SANTOS | A monster is being built. | Wed Mar 07 1990 10:17 | 18 |
| WR-Dennis Mckinnon Bears RB-Kieth Jones ???
WR-Rod Harris Saints RB-Tommy Agee Chiefs
WR-Mike Williams Loins RB-Timmy Smith ???
WR-Jarrod Delaney ??? RB Ervin Farris ???
G-Tony Slaton Rams LB-Terrence Cooks-Pats
G-Greg Johnson ??? LB-Vinson Smith - Steelers
G-Dave Franks ??? LB-Walter Johnson- Saints
DB-Antonio Gibson Saints OT-Karl Burnice
DB-James Washington ???
DB-Corris Ervin ??? TE-Paul Jokish
DB-Greg Lee TE-Steve Johnson
Antonio Gibson, Mckinnon, Slaton, and Rod Harris should help, the other
guys I either haven't herd of them or are average players so I don't
expect much.
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160.14 | | PNO::HEISER | Menudo: Breakfast of Champions | Wed Mar 07 1990 10:18 | 1 |
| Add TE-Jay Novacek from Phoenix.
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160.15 | | AUSTIN::MACNEAL | Big Mac | Wed Mar 07 1990 15:07 | 1 |
| They have also added quite a few regular free agents.
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160.16 | ONE MORE WR | RAVEN1::D_SMITH | | Mon Mar 12 1990 15:17 | 10 |
|
I believe they have signed Ron Brown(L.A. RAMS) also.
David
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160.17 | Ron Brown With The Raiders | RAB::NORI | | Tue Mar 27 1990 09:13 | 6 |
| re: .16
Ron Brown signed a four year 2 Mil contract with the Raiders. Guess what ?
He will be defensive back with the Raiders not a WR.
-- Ram Nori
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160.18 | | JUPITR::MOK | Charles P. Mok | Tue Mar 27 1990 10:16 | 1 |
| It was said that he will play DB, WR and KR all.
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160.19 | Brown Wanted To Be A CB | VIA::NORI | | Tue Mar 27 1990 14:26 | 4 |
| USA TODAY says that he was signed as a DB and Brown really wanted to be
a CB, also Brown last played DB as a junior at ASU.
-- Ram Nori
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160.20 | | JULIET::MAY_BR | Wimp football rules! | Tue Mar 27 1990 16:01 | 8 |
|
Brown may have practiced as a DB at ASU, but he saw very little
action as one, it any.
the 49ers did sign a real DB, Hanford Dixon as I believe their 6th
or 7th DB. Not a bad bench.
Bruce
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160.21 | Brown Was A DB | VIA::NORI | | Wed Mar 28 1990 20:44 | 6 |
| re: -1
The Newspaper says he played as a DB as a junior, obivously he must
have praticed too.
-- Ram Nori
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160.22 | | JULIET::MAY_BR | Wimp football rules! | Wed Mar 28 1990 21:00 | 6 |
| I didn't say he didn't play at all, just very little in non-key
opportunities (sorta like when Deion Sanders played WR). ASU had
a couple lousy DB's back then, and he still wasn't there enough
to make a mark.
Bruce, ASU season ticketholder 81-83
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160.23 | Cowboy trade | HPSRAD::SANTOS | m&m's are to hard to peel | Fri Apr 20 1990 12:35 | 18 |
| Cowboys get 49ers get
----------- ---------
Danny Stubbs DE 2nd rnd pick (47 overall)
Terrence Flagler RB 3rd rnd pick (68 overall)
49er 3rd rnd pick (84 overall)
49er 11th rnd pick
I like the trade. Stubbs had a good rookie year but was injured and
nicked all of last year. He will be the starting left DE. Flagler has
looked good in mop up duties during 49ers games but I don't know much
about his talents. This trade marks the end of Too Tall Jones career
as a Cowboy, and they will now draft an OLB with there 1st rnd pick for
sure. I wouldn't be suprised to see Jim Jeffcoat or Danny Noonan traded
before Sunday. There 2nd rnd pick might still be a running back, but I
wouldn't be suprised it they take a safty (Mark Carrier, Vince Buck)
Steve Walsh will stay put at least until training camp.
Chuck
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160.24 | | CAM::WAY | Yeah, Ma, it's Cliff..your SON Cliff | Fri Apr 20 1990 12:42 | 3 |
| HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!(TM)
8^)
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160.25 | | GENRAL::GIBSON | | Fri Apr 20 1990 14:10 | 19 |
|
Noone is interested in Walsh, at least not for the ransom Dallas is
demanding.
Why would anyone want Jeffcoat? He is 29 years old and has been
ineffective the last 2-3 years. Noonan? Maybe in a package deal.
Flagler was the 49ers 1st round pick a couple of years ago. He was
highly touted coming out of college. Has been relegated to clean-up
duty behind Craig and asked to be traded last year.
Stubbs was "the last defensive lineman off the bench" for the 49ers
last year. I think he can become a very good player.
All-in-all, I think it was a good trade for Dallas. They desperately
need RB and DL help. Both should start for them.
HOOT
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160.26 | another RB... | QUASER::MCALPINE | I'LL B SURE | Mon Apr 23 1990 14:23 | 8 |
|
Yo Hoot,
Dallas drafted Emmitt Smith as there 1st round pick.
I think he's a good one, hopefully if Flager doesn't
pan out he will.
Mike
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160.27 | | GENRAL::GIBSON | | Mon Apr 23 1990 14:31 | 3 |
|
Mike,
Didn't Smith tear up a knee two seasons ago? He is a good one, though.
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160.28 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | A. Bunker, George (Wallace, Brooks) | Mon Apr 23 1990 15:09 | 6 |
|
In my opinion, this was one of the best picks in the draft.
Jeff George was definitely the worst. Indianapolis got taken
to the cleaners by Atlanta.
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160.29 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Vom Hochland German Shepherds | Mon Apr 23 1990 15:20 | 7 |
| Hoot - Buchsbaum said that Smith missed two games and parts of two
others with a "knee sprain". And then in his Jr. year he has a
"sensational junior season, despite some nagging injuries..."
Live from Charger Central....
Glenn
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160.30 | | EARRTH::BROOKS | Nazz 5, DrM 3 = How low can I go ? ... | Mon Apr 23 1990 16:05 | 13 |
| I can't believe that McMurty was still around for the Pats - a good
pick. The Jets did really well with their picks, especially taking
Rembert - I figured him gone to the Iggles .....
As for Indy, I said it before, the George trade was insane. I wouldn't
give up Hinton, Risen, and two picks for any of today's top QB's
.... much less a rookie who became a messiah in the last couple
of months.
Ware will be great with Detroit (or any other team), but they had
Peete, and needed to fill other holes soooner. I guess the Lions
felt that Peete could not/ is not ready to taking a 16-week pounding
in the R&S ......
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160.31 | Can't miss? | QUASER::MCALPINE | I'LL B SURE | Mon Apr 23 1990 16:06 | 7 |
|
Thanks Glen,
From the games I viewed he reminded me of a slower
Tony Dorsett. He makes defenders miss.
Keep in mind,Smith was originally projected to go
as high as Tampa's #4 pick.
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160.32 | How Did They Get 17th Pick ? | VIA::NORI | | Mon Apr 23 1990 20:38 | 5 |
|
Well, can somebody tell me how did Dallas get 17th pick ? What did they
give up for that ?
-- Ram Nori
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160.33 | Here's what they did | DEC25::MCFALL | We got a hot crustacean band! | Mon Apr 23 1990 21:00 | 7 |
| > Well, can somebody tell me how did Dallas get 17th pick ? What did they
> give up for that ?
They exchanged the 21st pick in the first round and the 28th pick
in the 3rd round for the 17th pick in the first round...
Jim M
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160.34 | time will tell | HPSRAD::SANTOS | m&m's are to hard to peel | Tue Apr 24 1990 09:54 | 22 |
| Doc,
Your right about the George trade and then they go and give him 15 mil over
6 years wow, Either Indy is brain dead or they see something in George
alot of people don't. Even tho' Hinton is a pro-bowl lineman he is
big into the union stuff, which could have negative effect on the players
vs management relationship. Who knows. Ware is perfect for Detroit, Peete
will get a chance to develope, and if Detroit is successfull with the
run and shoot you will see a few teams converting to it and maybe Peete
could be good trade bait in 2 years. Detroit will be a power house team
real soon.
I'll write in here later on what I thought of the Cowboy draft.
Dallas put on a big smoke screen before the draft, they had everbody
convinced they were going after defense and went with offense with there
1st two picks. Emmit Smith dropped to the 17th pick because his agent
has a history of contract hold outs. I hope he signs quick, he should be
starter come week 1 next year. The only thing I seemed to be right about
was Dallas trying to move Noonan and they almost got New Orleans to bite
and give up a 1st round pick for him.
chuck
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160.35 | | CAM::WAY | Down in Cabo Wabo! | Wed Apr 25 1990 08:02 | 8 |
| So Chuck...you guys gonna get back to .500 this year, or what?
Re Indy/George: One of the SportsWriters (Jauss?) is calling
George "The Konkak of the NFL"...
Should be a_interesting year....
'saw
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160.36 | Where's the Defence ? | FSHQA2::JRODOPOULOS | | Wed Apr 25 1990 10:13 | 15 |
| Danny Noonan was a 1st rounder a few years back, but has been hampered
with injuries throughout his career. The papers in Dallas attributed
that to his steroid use at Nebraska (go Big Red) but I feel there
is more to it. Last years defensive line sucked big time, I felt
really stupid paying $25 to watch these 'big, strong' linemen get
pushed around by opposing teams.
The draft was dissapointing in that Dallas did not do much to shore
up their defence. Plan B was great, but these players are someone
else's rejects for one reason or another. Clark from Miami was
available but Jimmy, his old coach, just passed him by. Jimmy,
Jimmy, Pee Wee Hermann could run through our our defensive line.
John
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160.37 | .500, they have to walk before they can run | HPSRAD::SANTOS | m&m's are to hard to peel | Wed Apr 25 1990 13:32 | 39 |
| Frank, .500 is reaching, the team is to young, theres talent there in
a few of the positions but like I said way to young. There shaping up
nice tho' need a two more drafts.
John,
The biggest problem with the defense last year was it was on the field
the whole game because the offense couldn't move the ball, specially
after Irvin and Martin went down and Paul Palmer head turned into a
vacant lot again. The D greatly improved over the second half of the
the season. They still don't have the big play LB they need, but hey
they have to may holes to fill so they filled other holes. The deal
of Noonan to New Orleans would have brought LB James Francis which is
the guy they wanted but NO backed out.
Noonan can play like a #1 when hes healthy which he should be now.
When he got back in the lineup in the second half of the season teams
no longer could double up on Jeffcoat and Jeffcoat had 10 sacks over
the last 8 games of the season. With Jeffcoat, Noonan, Danny Stubbs,
Mark Walen (IR all of last year), the 3rd rnd pick Jimmy Jones (very
quick and big (4.88 speed, 280), Tony Tolbert dh pass rusher (impressive
rookie) they should be able to survive. Dean Hammel and Willi Broughton
may not make the team. The key is for Stubbs to play like he did his
rookie year in San Fran, and Noonan to stay health, Jeffcoat isn't
big enough to handle double teaming all game. I think the Clark your
talking about is Bernard Clark from Miami, if so he's a MLB, they don't
need that. The draft brought at least 3 starters (Stubbs, Alex "ace"
Wright, and Emmit Smith/Flagler), 3 position that have greatly improved
over last year. Out of the Plan B McKinnon WR (until Irvin returns),
Gibson SS, should start. Kelvin Martin will be moved to the 3 WR spot
where he can play off of Wrights great speed.
Good draft for Dallas I thought, they also traded 3 6-rnd picks to
the Chargers for a 3 rnd pick next year, and 3 late rnd picks to the
Raiders for the Raiders 5th rnd pick (Smagala db Notre Dame). They sound
like bad trades but with 16 Plan B players already signed and roster
limits set at 80 come camp time some of these late round picks wouldn't
be around to long anyways, so trade quantity for quality
Chuck
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160.38 | John Huston, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Bob Ryan | SHALOT::MEDVID | Words are very unnecessary... | Wed May 02 1990 07:37 | 11 |
| Dallas columnist David Casstevens says Bob Ryan is "the greatest
filmmaker, living or dead, in the history of the cinematic arts."
Why?
Ryan produced the Cowboys 1989 highlight film.
--dan'l
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160.39 | I bet it will be a big seller too :-) | HPSRAD::SANTOS | m&m's are to hard to peel | Wed May 02 1990 10:45 | 6 |
| >> Ryan produced the Cowboys 1989 highlight film.
Is the this the Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe? How long is the film?
20 seconds at the most I hope.
Chuck
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160.40 | | MCIS1::DHAMEL | Roll over and we'll BOTH watch the game | Wed May 02 1990 10:47 | 5 |
|
The film is called "Dallas Does Nothing".
Dickster
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160.41 | | CAM::WAY | There's no winners...only survivors | Wed May 02 1990 10:54 | 12 |
| Actually, the Cowboys highlight was Troy breaking his finger while
picking his nose...oops, sorry, that was Joe Walton...
Well, mabye it was Carl Banks stuffing their 4th and goal opportunity...
Nope, guess i'm wrong again....
Oh, I know now, it was when they beats the Deadskins on Monday night....
Yeah, there ya go....
'Saw
PS Dickster, helluva p-name there....8^)
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160.42 | starving for info | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Thu Jul 26 1990 10:24 | 8 |
|
Big Mac,
Whats the scoop from the Dallas camp, are they close to signing
Emit Smith or Ace Alexander? Can't get any info up here in Mass.
The USAToday had been very disappointing lately.
Chuck
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160.43 | Awalt and Novacek....united again!! | IAMOK::AHEARN | Rams vs. Bengals in SB XXV | Thu Aug 30 1990 10:00 | 14 |
| To anyone 'in the know'...........
What do you figure the strategy to be around the acquisition of Robert
Awalt? It looked like Novacek was having a good preseason, and the
Cowboys go out and get his old rival for playing time from the
Cardinals!!! Is Dallas considering using Novacek as a WR? Will they
be using a lot of 2 TE formations? What gives??????
Any info would be appreciated.
Regards,
Nelly
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160.44 | Emmitt, lose the agent and sign | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Thu Aug 30 1990 12:37 | 26 |
| Nelly,
Novacek has had a great pre-season catching the ball but he can't
block to well. Backing up Novacek was Steve Folsom who is a clone
of Novacek but without speed. In the wings is a talented kid, Kieth
Jennings, but he has lazy stamped on his forehead and JJ must have
given up on him. So I assume with the addition of Awalt they now
have two quality TE's and I expect Folsom and Jennings to be released
real soon.
With Novacek's speed he will be able to get down field and I do expect
a double TE offense quite a bit with Emmitt Smith as there lone
tailback. Now if the little brat Smith would sign the offense would
be set.
As far as using Novacek as a WR. I can't see it. JJ has 4 fast
receivers (Irvin, Martin, Alexander, Harris) who can catch the ball,
makes more sense to use them.
Johnson says he does expect to have Emmitt Smith signed before the
start of the season. Smith has requested a play book, his agent wasn't
pleased, Johnson sent it to him and told'em he's expected to know
it the 1st day he shows up.
Chuck
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160.45 | Hands off to Awalt? | HOTSHT::SCHNEIDER | Thank you, Fay | Thu Aug 30 1990 12:40 | 5 |
| Awalt was being projected into an H-back role in Phoenix. Maybe the
Cowboys, victims of a weak running game, want to give him some carries
as well.
Dan
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160.46 | | SALEM::DODA | Cito Gaspipe and the Blew Jays | Thu Aug 30 1990 12:50 | 1 |
| How's Irvin's knee?
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160.47 | | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Thu Aug 30 1990 13:36 | 10 |
| Irvin knee is fine. He is about 2 months ahead of his rehab, but JJ wants
to stick to the orginal rehab schedule, so don't expect Irvin to start
until week 3. Irvin has been held out of contact the 1st 3 weeks of camp.
JJ has said the future for the Cowboys and Irvin is not the beginning of
this season so there's no sense in risking anything.
Irvins rehab is so far ahead because he peddled his bike (26 miles each way)
to his daily rehab sessions during the off season.
Chuck
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160.48 | | FSHQA2::JRODOPOULOS | Hey Mon, How Many Jobs You Got Today ? | Thu Aug 30 1990 14:06 | 7 |
| Didn't Irvin catch a TD pas from Walsh this pass weekend against the
Steelers ? What about the two speedy receivers they had last year,
you know the ones who couldn't hold on to the ball ?
Thanks,
John R.
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160.49 | | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Thu Aug 30 1990 14:28 | 14 |
| Irvin might have played against Pitt, he practiced with the second team
offense last week. I didn't see or hear anything about the game other
than the final score.
WR's in the Cowboy camp are Rod Harris, Dennis McKinnon, Alexander Wright,
Kelvin Martin, Micheal Irvin, James Dixon, Derrick Sheppard. I expect
them to might carry 6 WR and 2 TE, meaning Sheppard is the odd man out.
Speedy receivers who couldn't catch the ball last year were James Dixon
and Bernard Ford. Ford signed via Plan B with someone else and Dixon
should make the team because he's one of the best kickoff return men
in the NFL.
Chuck
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160.50 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Vom Hochland German Shepherds | Thu Aug 30 1990 14:29 | 4 |
| Chuck - what did you learn from watching the Cowboy/Charger tape that I
sent?
Glenn
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160.51 | | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Thu Aug 30 1990 15:56 | 40 |
| Glenn,
Thanks again for the tape, you should be receiving my return package
any day now.
What did I learn:
Aikman dominates his offense, he switch's plays at the line and he
sure can throw that quick down and out pass. Walsh doesn't have the
same effect on the team, its Aikmans team all the way.
Rod Harris-80 is a talent at WR, he was hidden in the depth charts
in Houston/New Orleans last year. WR Mckinnon didn't show me anything.
Martin and Irvin didn't play.
Timmy Smith-33 is a waste of time. Terrence Flagler is a talent but
he looks lost, Darly Johnston is there best runner and hes in the
lineup to block, they need to sign Emmitt Smith.
Defense is decent, except the DBacks, there all weak except Ike Holt.
Danny Stubbs is a player and OLB Norton will shine this year.
Offensive line was patched up due to injuries. They need a running
back who can hit the hole. Running backs make them look bad.
I would like to see 4 wins and no major injuries to there talented
young players. Anything more than 4 wins, I'll get a trainwreck.
What I noticed on the Chargers:
Defense is loaded, but they show the coverage and blitz to soon. They
all want to make the tackle, instead of containing an area. Very
hyper unit. They should improve with experience. Aikman beat them a
few times by reading the defense and changing the play.
Marion Butts is a workhorse and they should use him more often this
year. WR Antony Miller can not be stopped, a star in the making.
Chargers are a talented young team. If they can avoid losing close
games because of there youth, they have a good shot at the playoffs.
Chuck
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160.52 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Vom Hochland German Shepherds | Thu Aug 30 1990 16:15 | 6 |
| Interesting analysis. I have already received the return tapes, and
will get Week1 off to you on the Monday following.
It's gonna be a fun season!
Glenn
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160.53 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | Nostra/DONus | Fri Aug 31 1990 09:31 | 6 |
| Hey Chuck you forgot a very important lesson:
The Cowboys Sip!
8^)
/Don
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160.54 | get a ladder the drinks are on the house. | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Fri Aug 31 1990 10:08 | 5 |
| /Don,
Your right but this year were Sipping top-self stuff. :-)
Betty_Ford
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160.55 | Touch� Chuck | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | Nostra/DONus | Fri Aug 31 1990 10:12 | 1 |
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160.56 | good move getting Highsmith | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Tue Sep 04 1990 10:28 | 18 |
| Cowboys trade draft picks for Alonzo Highsmith. Highsmith is young (25)
and was the back the Cowboys tried to trade for in February but Houston
wanted 2 1st rnd picks. I sure the picks are conditional and the High-man
wanted out of Houston so I don't think they gave too much up front for
him.
Cowboys cut Terrence Flagler, Timmy Smith, and Lorenzo Hampton. They
don't lose anything cutting Hampton because the draft pick sent to
Denver was conditional on him making the team. Flagler cost'em a 3rd round
pick in the this past draft, the bum. Smith is a stiff and the whole
league knows it so we got him for free.
This leaves the Cowboys with 2 full backs (Daryl Johnston, Tommy Agee) and
one tailback (Highsmith) in camp. Maybe Walsh will be the starting QB and
they will move Aikman to the tailback spot. No just kidding, but they will
use the one back offense alot this year.
Emmitt Smith is still unsigned and holding out.
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160.57 | Very strange | SHALOT::HUNT | Wyld Stallyns Rules | Tue Sep 04 1990 10:49 | 11 |
| I can't recall when I've seen a football player fall from the penthouse
to the outhouse faster or farther than Timmy Smith.
Rushed for a record 206 yards in the Redskins January 1988 Super Bowl
XXII victory over Denver and now he's been cut by the worst team in
football.
Either he had the all-time day of his life back in Supe 22 or he just
doesn't give a ....
Bob Hunt
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160.58 | | FSOA::JRODOPOULOS | Hey Mon, How Many Jobs You Got Today ? | Tue Sep 04 1990 10:59 | 8 |
| Re: 160.56
Chuck, what happened to the Plan B free agent running back from
Nebraska, Keith Jones ? If you have the time or the data could you
please identify what Plan B players made the team ? I would be most
grateful for any info.
John Rodopoulos
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160.59 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | PatsFans *Know* S&M | Tue Sep 04 1990 11:10 | 8 |
| RE: Timmy Smith
Bob, the gaping holes the Redskins line were opening in the
Broncos defense that day could've made a hero out of Dr. Smith (of
Lost in Space fame). He was the ultimate "right time, right place"
guy.
/Don
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160.60 | plan B players are real young except Slaton, McKinnon | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Tue Sep 04 1990 14:39 | 24 |
| Plan B players that made the team:
RB-Keith Jones - blew out a knee, on the shelf for the year.
WR-Rod Harris - Good pickup, will backup Kelvin Martin
WR-Dennis McKinnon - Gone when Alexander Wright learns the offense
TE-Jay Novacek - Starting TE, good pickup.
RG-Tony Slaton - If healthy he will start at right guard
LG-Louis Cheeks - Suspended for steriod use, backup left guard
FB-Tommy Agee - Almost beat Daryl Johnston as starter, good backup
OLB- Vinson Smith - Backup for Ken Norton Jr., Hes been impressive.
FS-James Washington - Backup for Ray Horton, might be starter by end of
the season
Draft players:
WR - Alexander Wright - missed most of camp will see alot of action
DT - Jimmy Jones - missed most of camp also, will start real soon.
DE - Danny Stubbs - trade via draft picks, starting left def end.
SS - Stanley Smagala - Backup to Albritton, lots of speed and played
at Noter Dame (booo), shows lots of promise.
RB - Emmit Smith - holding out, don't ask me why, been offered good money
CB - Kenneth Gant - backup cornerback just made the roster
Chuck
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160.61 | | FSHQA2::JRODOPOULOS | Hey Mon, How Many Jobs You Got Today ? | Tue Sep 04 1990 18:20 | 6 |
| Chuck, if the Cowboys are as consistent as you are we will be in for
one hell of a year.
Thanks a million,
John Rodopoulos
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160.62 | | CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ | Waiting for my Kuwaiti Vacation | Wed Sep 05 1990 07:21 | 3 |
| Smith signed yesterday.
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160.63 | Parade in February, 1993 | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Wed Sep 05 1990 08:05 | 9 |
| >> <<< Note 160.62 by CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ "Waiting for my Kuwaiti Vacation" >>>
>> Smith signed yesterday.
Saw it on CNN sports last night, haven't been this happy since my 1st
car date.
Chuck
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160.64 | a classic | CNTROL::CHILDS | and the wind it cried Mary.. | Wed Sep 05 1990 08:37 | 8 |
|
Can we then assume there was a trainwreck at the Santos' household last
night?
;^)
mike
|
160.65 | | COBRA::DINSMORE | It was the blister.. honest | Wed Sep 05 1990 08:41 | 8 |
|
boardwalk chuck,
will smith start sunday?
dinz
|
160.66 | | CAM::WAY | Ralph! Score a try! | Wed Sep 05 1990 09:47 | 2 |
| Gee, the way Chuck sounded it was more like a trainwreck with an
airplane crash and a oil spill......
|
160.67 | break down lane was full too. | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Wed Sep 05 1990 10:43 | 11 |
| No trainwreck or plane crashes. It was more like an 18-wheeler locking
them up and jackknifing and then came the usual 10 car pile up. Instant
grid lock and no relief in sight. :-)
Dinz, I don't know who will start sunday. Yesterday was Highsmiths 1st
day in camp and Emmitt will report today. Highsmith has been in camp
with the Oilers and should be in football shape. Emmitt has had the Cowboy
playbook for 2 weeks and should know a more about the offense than
Highsmith.
Chuck
|
160.68 | | CAM::WAY | Ralph! Score a try! | Wed Sep 05 1990 10:59 | 8 |
| >
> No trainwreck or plane crashes. It was more like an 18-wheeler locking
> them up and jackknifing and then came the usual 10 car pile up. Instant
> grid lock and no relief in sight. :-)
What, no oil spill?????
'Saw
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160.69 | down shift, never use the hand brake | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Wed Sep 05 1990 12:02 | 6 |
| 'Saw,
The driver of the 18-wheeler did one hell of job to prevent a spill
and a mess.
Chuck
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160.70 | Guess his knee isn't 100% yet... | SALEM::DODA | MC Unoriginal | Wed Sep 05 1990 12:07 | 1 |
| Irvin was placed on IR yesterday.
|
160.71 | Looks like we got us a convoy.... | CAM::WAY | Ralph! Score a try! | Wed Sep 05 1990 12:45 | 7 |
| Chuck...
Well, that's a load off my mind. I was worried that perhaps he
didn't have the skills necessary to prevent a potentially environmental
damaging occurance....
'Saw
|
160.72 | Giants are next, will it be on TV????? | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Tue Sep 11 1990 12:03 | 7 |
| Cowboys have a Fan Hotline 1-900-2-COWBOYS (touch tone phones only)
Topics are team statistical updates, notes from previous game, Jimmy
Johnsons quotes, Ticket info.
Sitting on top of the NFC East, at least for this week.
Chuck
|
160.73 | | COBRA::DINSMORE | Rodney Hampton...ROY | Tue Sep 11 1990 12:24 | 6 |
|
congrats on the opening day win, reality may set in sunday though:)
dinz
.
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160.74 | 1-900-PUTRID-POKES. Kids get your parents' permission first. | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | Nostra/DONus | Tue Sep 11 1990 12:28 | 1 |
|
|
160.75 | trainwreck city last Sunday night | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Tue Sep 11 1990 13:28 | 8 |
| That should have been 1-900-2-COWBOY, 95 cents a minute.
Come 'on \Don, jump on the Cowboy bandwagon, its going to take time
but we'll reach that light at the end of the tunnel.
Can the birth of CowboyMania (Dallas vs NYG) be that far off???
Chuck
|
160.76 | | FSHQA2::JRODOPOULOS | Hey Mon, How Many Jobs You Got Today ? | Tue Sep 11 1990 15:07 | 7 |
| The Cowboys-Ny game will be shown this weekend here in Southbridge at
4:00. I'm really looking forward to this even though I feel the Giants
will prevail.
Hoping for an upset,
John "D Cowboys" R.
|
160.77 | Walsh a Saint? | AUSTIN::MACNEAL | Bo don't know rugby! | Tue Sep 25 1990 13:20 | 2 |
| Latest from the rumor mill: Walsh to the Saints for Hebert and draft
pick(s). Walsh says he expects to be out of Dallas before the weekend.
|
160.78 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | PMS Band plays 3wksblues & 1wkragtime | Tue Sep 25 1990 18:48 | 7 |
| Heard it on the news a few minutes ago.
Walsh to New Orleans for three draft picks.
JaKe
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160.79 | Coming soon... Hebert to Raiders. | AIMHI::DONNELLY | Dare to be diffident | Wed Sep 26 1990 08:04 | 2 |
| Dallas gets: a 1st and a 3rd round selection in the '91 draft and a
2nd round pick in '92.
|
160.80 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Vom Hochland German Shepherds | Wed Sep 26 1990 08:57 | 6 |
| I don't get it. It seems to me that the Saints gave away an awful lot
for this one, unproven, unspectacular, good potential quarterback. It
seems to me to be WAY to much.
Glenn
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160.81 | Micheal Irvin, Aikman needs you. | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Wed Sep 26 1990 10:21 | 32 |
| The Walsh trade was a good deal for Dallas and gives Jimmy Johnson a
chance to fix the one blunder hes made in trying to rebuild the Cowboys.
They now have 3 number 1 picks in the next draft. The 2nd round pick
in 92 for Walsh is conditional and could be a #1 pick in 92.
The biggest part of this trade is that Aikman vs Walsh problem is now
solved. It was becoming a distraction to the team. If the Saints had
held out they could have gotten Walsh cheaper in about 4 weeks.
Also hold out Jesse Soloman is on the trading block for a 2nd round
pick (real cheap) but nobody wants him because he refuses to workout
during the off season with his team. He wants to be near his family
in Florida during the off season. Poor guy, I guess he can't handle
relocating or a year round job.
Alonso Highsmith trade to Dallas blows my mind. In the spring Dallas
was offering Houston a #1 for him and Houston turned it down. Pardee
the new Oiler coach made public that Highsmith couldn't fit into the
run-and-shoot offense and ask Dallas if the offer was still on the table.
Dallas said no way. The terms of the trade was a 2nd round pick in 91
and conditional 5th round pick in 92. The conditional pick can become
a 2nd round pick in 92 based on Highsmiths performance this year.
Dallas should have beaten the Skins this weekend. They out played them,
the 2 ints hurt real bad. If they can go 2-6 the first half of the season
and 3-5 the second half, I will be happy. All the physical conditioning
that JJ demands seems to be paying off. So far (knock on wood) there hasn't
been any injuries to the starters. Aikman was sacked 8 times this pass
weekend. He was only sacked 19 times last year in 11 games. Washington
was blitz happy. Bring on the Giants.
Chuck
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160.82 | | AUSTIN::MACNEAL | Bo don't know rugby! | Wed Sep 26 1990 10:23 | 8 |
| The second round pick in '92 may change to a first rounder if Walsh
really pans out.
Glenn, I think the Saints were really in a bind. Yes, they did give up
a lot (Dallas is stockpiling those draft picks), but they didn't have
much choice. Hebert doesn't want to play for them if the money isn't
right, and their current starter has the worst QB rating in the NFL.
Ironically enough, Aikman isn't far behind in that category.
|
160.83 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Lord she had a way to fool me | Wed Sep 26 1990 11:13 | 9 |
|
Like Chuck said all those folks that got on JJ's case for picking Walsh now
got egg on their face. Walsh is a pretty smart customer and a winner something
Fourcade is not. Walsh may not have the greatest arm strength but he isn't
prone to stupid mistakes either. Seems Montana doesn't have the greatest arm
strength either but look at what he's done. If Walsh becomes even 3/4's the
QB that Joe is than neither team will get screwed in this deal....
mike
|
160.84 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | | Wed Sep 26 1990 11:15 | 8 |
|
This deal makes the picking of Walsh in the supplemental draft look
like a blunder. Had the Cowboys not done that, they could have made
the deal with Indianapolis for the pick that would have been Jeff
George. If you compare what Atlanta got for George to what Dallas just
got, the Saints did OK.
Bruce
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160.85 | | FSHQA2::JRODOPOULOS | Hey Mon, How Many Jobs You Got Today ? | Wed Sep 26 1990 12:32 | 11 |
| Maybe the Saints did give up a lot for Walsh but one has to remember
that they are planning on recouping some of those picks when Hebert is
traded.
The rash of QB injuries around the league makes Hebert look more and more
enticing. Some of the teams that could be interested in Hebert are:
Raiders, Vikings, Patriots, Phoenix, and Cleveland.
JMO,
John "D Cowboys" R.
|
160.86 | You heard it here first | SALEM::DODA | No scalping at Sinead O'Connor concerts | Wed Sep 26 1990 12:36 | 5 |
| As a Viking fan, I'd tell NO to keep the whinin' crybaby.
Gannon is gonna be a star.
daryll
|
160.87 | Not for years to come... | SALEM::DODA | No scalping at Sinead O'Connor concerts | Wed Sep 26 1990 12:37 | 3 |
| Besides, we don't have any draft picks left to trade.....
|
160.88 | | QUASER::JOHNSTON | LegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.! | Thu Sep 27 1990 13:46 | 5 |
| I don't see how anyone can afford to sign three first rounders. Most
teams have trouble signing one. However, Dallas could probably use
those picks to trade for (a) proven impact player(s).
Mike JN
|
160.89 | JJ keep up the good work. | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Thu Sep 27 1990 15:16 | 34 |
| Jimmy Johnson said next years draft they will do what the Bears did this past
year (draft a player if he agrees to a contract before he is drafted). Jerry
Jones has also started a board to monitor agents and there patterns for
getting there players signed to a contract. They will not draft a player
whos agent has a history of long hold outs. Dallas is very bitter at Emmitt
Smiths agent because the contract they agreed to was offered in early
August but the agent held Emmitt out 3 more weeks for more money and didn't
get it. In fact I remember reading somewhere that Emmitt Smith slipped
to the 17th pick over all because of his agent (read: hes not considered
reasonable at the bargaining table)
Alot of teams will also do as the Bears did this past year. This type of
approach should get rid of some of the slime agents who are thinking
commission and not the best for the player.
Signing 3 #1s will be tough, and I don't think they will try to sign
3 #1s next spring. I expect to see some trading come next draft or maybe
even before this years trade dead line.
Being a Cowboy fan now is a good time to set up the rookie pay scale.
It would be easier to wheel and deal if you know the bottom dollar
before hand. JJ has done alot with the Cowboys in his 18 months. He took
over a team with only one talented player (Herschel) and used it to the
fullest in obtaining draft position. He sacrificed last year for the
future. I feel he now has a better team than the one he inherited and he
has a real sweet draft position. His next task is to make use of the draft
picks to its fullest. Drafting Walsh was a mistake but he recovered from it.
It was a year to late but better late than never. If the 2nd round pick in
92 matures to a 1st round pick in 92, drafting Walsh could be considered
a good move. Time will tell, 1992 will be the year the JJ monster is
unleashed. I see a vision of dancing after every play, and I'll be requesting
them to pump up the volume. :-).
Chuck
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160.90 | | DECWET::METZGER | Head Northwest young man.... | Thu Sep 27 1990 15:24 | 8 |
|
Chuck,
Have you heard the rumors that Aikman feels that he has nothing to learn from
JJ and his coaching staff? Reportedly he stated that they are a college coaching
staff and they can't teach him anything about the pro game...
Metz
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160.91 | No waves in Dallas, JJ is in complete control | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Thu Sep 27 1990 15:42 | 14 |
| Metz,
Aikman unhappy about the coaching in Dallas, haven't heard that at all.
I saw an interview on ESPN with Aikman after the Walsh trade and he said
he was happy the QB thing had been finalized. I guess the Walsh trade
rumors had become a distraction to the whole team. Living in Mass. I
do a lot of digging to get Cowboy info and I have never heard Aikman
say one thing negative about the team/coaching staff. Could be true but
I think its just trash reporting. As a Cowboy fan it doesn't phase me.
If there was a problem JJ wouldn't have hesitated to trade him instead
of Walsh. JJ doesn't waste time and Aikman would have brought more in a
trade than Walsh.
Chuck
|
160.92 | | DECWET::METZGER | Head Northwest young man.... | Thu Sep 27 1990 16:17 | 7 |
| thanks chuck..
I believe that it was reported by one of the ESPN guys. I'm not really sure
where I picked it up because I didn't watch any games this weekend, only
highlight shows...
Metz
|
160.93 | They need Irvin badly. | HPSRAD::SANTOS | Girl is your husband married? | Thu Oct 04 1990 10:08 | 15 |
| Michael Irvin is off the IR and back on the roster. Hopefully he will
be starting soon.
James Dixon, a speed burner who has been used mainly as a return man
and a backup wide out, will be move to running back. Hopefully he
can learn to take a handoff because he couldn't run a pass pattern
to save his life.
It appears that Alonso Highsmith came to Dallas damaged. The knee
everybody was worried about is fine but he has a tender ankle that
causes him to miss practice time every week. It is not considered to
be serious, but since he came to Dallas so late he needs the practice
time to catchup.
Chuck
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160.94 | Wouldn't you? | RAVEN1::B_ADAMS | It's that time again! | Mon Oct 15 1990 20:38 | 10 |
|
You would think that professional men,being paid professional
salaries, could at least get more than 80+ total yards in one game...
Nah! It's the Plowboys!
B.A. :*)
|
160.95 | | FSOA::JRODOPOULOS | Hey Mon, How Many Jobs You Got Today ? | Tue Oct 16 1990 12:12 | 9 |
| Re: 160.94
You are right their effort was not only dismal but also embarassing
esp. to us Cowboy fans who have to defend them. I have always
contended that if a player gets rewarded for having a good year he
should also get demoted (in salary, where it hurts) when they have an
off year or game. Jeery Jones (tm) would save a bundle this year.
John "D Cowboys" R.
|
160.96 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | almost Ozzie #$%%#$@ Guillen | Tue Oct 16 1990 13:53 | 6 |
|
The Cowboys seem to be forgetting about the OL in their rebuilding.
They paid for it on Sunday vs. a team with a decent defense. IT will
be extremely evident on Sunday.
Bruce
|
160.98 | Can we play Tampa every week? | 7412::SANTOS | Hurricane warnings | Tue Oct 23 1990 09:44 | 21 |
| Been out of the office since Oct 10. Can't believe the pounding
the Boys took from the Cards. Read that during the off week the
Cards changed there defense from a 4-3 to a 3-4 or maybe it was
the other way around. Cowboy offense was completely confused by
it and the team is so young it couldn't make the adjustments.
Cowboys fans have to wait, Aikman is in his second year, Emmitt
Smith and Highsmith have been Cowboys for 8 weeks, the WR's are
either rookies, new to the team, or missed most of last year due
to injury. The OL isn't as bad is it looks but they do need to
upgrade, Crawford Kerr has to get health. With Michael Irvin back
the offense will come around, give it time. The defense is holding
its own and there starting to produce sacks and turnovers.
Cowboys have 3 1st round picks (there own, Minn., New Orleans).
Looks like all 3 will be in the top 15 overall.
They should win 6 games this year, great improvement over last
year.
Chuck
|
160.99 | Homeboy tore it up! | 17135::CGRIEGO | Trust Jesus | Tue Nov 06 1990 15:36 | 8 |
| How about that 98-yd return last Sunday by rookie WR Terrance Mathis.
He played his college football here in Albuquerque, for the University
of New Mexico you know. He is also the NCAA's leading pass receiver
ever!
Carlos
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160.100 | Jet 24; Cowboys 9 | 32071::SCHNEIDER | Voted for whatsisname... | Tue Nov 06 1990 16:02 | 7 |
| Carlos, you wrote that whole note without mentioning that Mathis plays
for the Jets. From what I've seen, he represents a steal in the 7th
round. Good hands, fast, dynamic after he catches the ball, and runs
nice patterns. His drawback is that he's small, about 5'10" I'd say.
Looks like a great 3rd WR to along with Toon and Moore.
Dan
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160.101 | Irvin is looking good | 7412::SANTOS | | Wed Nov 07 1990 08:14 | 14 |
| >> Terance Mathis from New Mexico.
I knew I knew him from somewhere, but couldn't place him.
Dan did the Jets draft all WR in the draft last year?
Rob Moore, Reggie Rembert, Terence Mathis, Dale Dawkins.
Cowboys vs Jets:
Cowboys don't know how to score points, still looking for 6 wins
this year. This week its the 49ers at home on ESPN 8:00pm. Its a
shame Sherrard got hurt, but I'm glad hes not playing he would of
killed them. Now if they can just stop Rice and Taylor.
Chuck
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160.102 | I know this isn't the prayer note | 35847::JAMESS | | Wed Nov 07 1990 11:50 | 3 |
| The Cowboys will upset the 49ers this week.
Steve J.
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160.103 | Couldn't be happier after last year | 32071::SCHNEIDER | Voted for whatsisname... | Wed Nov 07 1990 13:16 | 13 |
| >Dan did the Jets draft all WR in the draft last year?
> Rob Moore, Reggie Rembert, Terence Mathis, Dale Dawkins.
Remember that their 1st round pick was Blair Thomas, Rembert came in
round 2, never showed up (wanted 1 money) and was traded to Cinci for a
starting LB (on CInci and the Jets) and a starting OT (Jets only).
Moore was supplemental, Mathis round 7, Dawkins 9 or 10. According to
The National, they give the Jets an 'A' so far this year, and say no
other team has so many rookies playing a role. Oh year, 3rd round pick
TOny Stargell is the starting CB on the right. He's been burned lots
but is learning.
Dan
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160.104 | | CELTIK::JACOB | In God I Trust, All Others Pay Cash | Wed Nov 07 1990 14:10 | 13 |
| > <<< Note 160.102 by 35847::JAMESS >>>
> -< I know this isn't the prayer note >-
>
> The Cowboys will upset the 49ers this week.
> Steve J.
The Cowboys will lose but the 49er's will get upset if the cowboys p!ss
in their wheaties!!!!
JaKe
|
160.105 | | 7412::SANTOS | | Fri Nov 09 1990 08:33 | 10 |
| JaKe,
The 'Boys will have to do more than just yellow stain the 49ers Wheaties.
Maybe Montana will give us the game, after all he does owe us a game for
the one he stole back in 81 ("the catch" game).
Alonso Highsmith went on the IR. Hes nicked up pretty bad and is in JJ's
dog house. He needs time off to heal.
Chuck
|
160.106 | | 17750::RIEU_D | Read his lips...Know new taxes! | Fri Nov 09 1990 11:45 | 4 |
| how tough is it to get Cowpokes tickets? I may be down there later
this month and early next. They'll be playing (I think) the Saints and
Skins while I'm there.
Denny
|
160.107 | a little crow please | 35847::JAMESS | | Mon Nov 12 1990 07:19 | 3 |
| I was wrong. The niners did it again.
Steve J.
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160.108 | still looking for win #4. | 7412::SANTOS | | Mon Nov 12 1990 08:58 | 18 |
|
Cowboys looked awful. Johnson has to let Aikman play wide open football.
The only time Aikman moves the team is when the offense is allowed to
open up. JJ is just protecting his QB from injury while the team rebuilds
the talent around him. I admit they don't have a chance of beating the
the 49ers so maybe JJ is right in what his doing but it is so frustrating.
Next up, Cowboy travel to Ram country. Rams are a good team without
direction. They might have a chance if Emmitt Smith carries the ball
15+ times and Aikman is allowed to play with a complete offense.
Re: Cowboy tickets,
Nov 22 (Thanksgiving day) with Redskins, this game will sell out.
Dec 2 with Saints, this game might sell out, Walsh vs Aikman.
Dec 16 with Cardinals this game will not sell out.
Chuck
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160.109 | TTTThhhhheeeeeyyyyy'''rrrrreeee bbbaacckkk!! | BTOVT::MANDILE_A | Just Do It | Fri Nov 30 1990 07:55 | 10 |
|
I cant believe nobody has brought up the cowboys back to back wins
against the Rams, and Redskins on Thanksgiving.
On Thanksgiving the team played nothing less than great, everybody
was in sync, and this team WILL be a force to dealt with.
I was personally sporting some dominating feelings of the old days
when being a Dallas Cowboy fan meant something....Like all friends
hated you........
Albert
|
160.111 | | BSS::JCOTANCH | CU: Back-to-Back Big 8 Champs | Fri Nov 30 1990 08:39 | 8 |
| I can pick up KRLD out of Dallas in the evenings and sometimes listen
to the Cowboy talk shows. The fans and media down there are pretty
excited about the team and are starting to talk playoffs. Their game
this week against the Saints is sold out and they're expecting a
sellout for the Phoenix game also. It's good to see such excitement
down there for a mediocre team.
Joe
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160.112 | Emmitt Smith is making a run for ROTY | HPSRAD::SANTOS | | Fri Nov 30 1990 08:44 | 21 |
| It sure feels good to win two in a row. Seeing them play on Turkey day
was the best I've felt watching the boys since 1985. The team really
shaped up real nice after the no-show loss to the 49ers 3 weeks ago.
The team took on a new look after a shouting match between Michael
Irvin and Troy Aikman whick took place in the locker room right after
the 49ers loss. Rumor has it that Aikman and Emmitt Smith complained
about the offense being to scaled down and felt the coaches (mainly
OC Dave Shula) was hurting the developement of the offense. Well Irvin
told Aikman to shut up and the only reason the offense was scaled down
was to protect Aikman from injury while the team is still young. Aikman
answered back saying he didn't want to be a protected player and wants
the handcuffs released so he could get the ball in the endzone. Irvin
snapped back and said if you want the ball in the endzone throw the ball
to me. In the last two games Irvin has scored 3 TD's.
Since the out burst Aikman has said the offense has opened up but since
the're executing a lot better now theres no need to use the wide open
offense. Troy and the boys grew up a lot after that loss to the 49ers.
The're 2-2 in the second half of the season if the can go 4-4, that would
leave them at 7-9 for the season. Maybe a little too early to say there
back but I think next year they may have a shot at playoff.
|
160.113 | Next 2 games should be wins, putting them at 7-7 | VLNVAX::MBROOKS | | Fri Nov 30 1990 10:01 | 9 |
| New Orleans And Phoenix are not the patriots but there not power
houses either. Dallas could easily make it 4 in a row which would
put them at 7-7 with 2 game left. I see them finishing at .500 for
the year and a possible playoff berth, its to early to tell. They
basically need a win this week and then wait and see what the other
wildcard teams do this week and next (during there bye week)....
The NFC picture should be pretty much set after week 15, the afc will
go to the wire.
Mike
|
160.114 | | EDIT::CRITZ | LeMond Wins '86,'89,'90 TdF | Fri Nov 30 1990 12:00 | 6 |
| Any Dallas fans read "God's Coach" by Skip Bayless.
I'm reading it now. Bayless has some interesting things
to say about Landry, Murchison, Brandt and the Cowpokes.
Scott
|
160.115 | Boys have almost perfect weekend... | KIDVAX::MBROOKS | | Mon Dec 03 1990 07:05 | 21 |
| Did things go good for the Boys this weekend, a perfect weekend for
the boys (to make the playoffs) would have been minnasota beeting
GB (which they did), PHilly losing to buff (which they did), wash
losing to miami (upset here) and of course them winning over NO...
Almost perfect for them, here is a picture of the Wildcards right now.
Philly 7-5
Wash 7-5
GB 6-6
Minn 6-6
Dall 6-7
Next week Minn plays at NY Giants, GB hosts Seattle, PHilly at Miami
and Wash hosts Chicago....All 4 could very easily lose next week
Opening the door wide open for the Boys to slip in the back door. When
they come back from there week off they have Phonex 4-8 at home...
Could come down to the wire, looking forward to a close race. They can
go 2-1 in there last 3 and have an 8-8 recored just have to see what
the other teams can come up with.....
Mike
|
160.116 | Jimmy Johnson: Coach Of The Year???? | BTOVT::MANDILE_A | Just Do It | Mon Dec 03 1990 07:37 | 7 |
|
I know Dallas plays Phienox and Philly after the bye, who do they
play in the last game???
Great to see another win!
Al
|
160.117 | There last game is at Atlanta | HPSRAD::SANTOS | | Mon Dec 03 1990 08:13 | 0 |
160.118 | Thanx, dude. | BTOVT::MANDILE_A | Just Do It | Mon Dec 03 1990 08:23 | 1 |
|
|
160.119 | | FSOA::JRODOPOULOS | Hey Mon, How Many Jobs You Got Today ? | Thu Dec 06 1990 12:44 | 7 |
| Hey Chuck, now that the Cowboys have won a few the Cowboy fans are
coming out of the woodwork. It sure is good to see, but it was awfully
lonely in here up to now.
Faithful Cowboy fan,
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160.120 | Dallas was and still is americas team | VLNVAX::MBROOKS | | Thu Dec 06 1990 13:05 | 15 |
| Hey when there's nothing to talk about there's nothing to talk about.
I grew up with Dallas and Pittsburg i didnt even know there where any
other teams (other than tha patriots but I dont like to call them a
team)...I had a cowboys lunch box.......and a jacket...talk about a
fan, I was 8 but thats ok. I still have fotball cards from the mid and
late 70's...Hopefully someday thell be worth as much as baseball cards
are (to bad I didnt like baseball back then). Most of the teams I like
havent been in the playoffs for awile, Colts, Cowboys, Raiders, Pitt,
Minn Id love to see them all in the playoffs but if at least a couple
get there it makes it even more fun. I watch football every week thru
the playoffs and the Bowl but Id like to see my favorites get there.
Minn and Dallas both have a chance at making it (rather see dall)....
A Fan that wants someone other than NY/CHicago or SF in the Bowl (alot
to ask for)
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160.121 | Front row seats and window seats still available | HPSRAD::SANTOS | | Thu Dec 06 1990 14:14 | 13 |
| John,
Troy and the boys are starting to make some noise. I remember in the late
80s when every 3rd person I talked to was a Cowboy fan. Four lean years
in the win column sure emptied the bandwagon real quick. Thats okay lean
years empty every teams bandwagon. I just filled the Cowboy bandwagon with
fuel and I've been driving it around looking for new members. The seats
are filling up pretty good, but a loss to Phoenix next weekend and it
will be empty again.
What will we do with 3 number 1 draft picks in the next draft?
Chuck
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160.122 | | FSOA::JRODOPOULOS | Hey Mon, How Many Jobs You Got Today ? | Thu Dec 06 1990 15:23 | 11 |
| Johnson has shown a strong interest in using his 3 no 1s as leverage to
move up and get Russell Maryland DL (Miami). JJ knows him and really
needs some help up front. Todd Light (ND#@&) would aslo be a good 2-3
round choice only I don't think he will be there.
Being a Nebraska fan I would love the Cowboys to pick up Kenny Walker
DL, and maybe also Croel LB. But then again I'm also hoping for a big
raise and a promotion and ........
John "D Cowboys" R.
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160.123 | | MPP6::MACNEAL | Life's 2 short 2 drink cheap beer | Thu Dec 06 1990 15:27 | 2 |
| Being a Pats fan, I wouldn't mind at all if JJ used his 3 #1's to go
after THE #1.
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160.124 | DALLAS IS ON THE WAY BACK TO THE TOP | ROULET::GARRY | Go Irish | Thu Dec 06 1990 20:54 | 11 |
| I am an avid Cowboy fan and I'm sure Mike C and Don R can vouch
for it,after the Cowboys drafted Aikman and hired Jimmy Johnson
I told them that the Boys are right now hurtin but give JJ time
and he'll turn this squad around,I figured they would'nt be
contending for a playoff spot till 92 or 93 but this team really
has a shot at the playofs next year(91),in fact the Cowboys may
even challenge for the NFC East title next year.They are a good
young team.
Tom
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160.125 | Dallas will not lose to phoenix, philly could be there downfall | VLNVAX::MBROOKS | | Fri Dec 07 1990 07:14 | 9 |
| Im from new england and like the pats but theres no way that dallas
should consider doing something to go after the #1 pick, they dont
need it. From what I can see they have the QB and the Running back,
so the next ? whould be what kind of depth do they have in the
recieving squad and build up the O, D line...
Would it be smart for dallas to try and trade away some of there 1st
round choices for 2 or 3 picks in later rounds...
Mike
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160.126 | Looking for 8-8 this year | HPSRAD::SANTOS | | Fri Dec 07 1990 08:20 | 14 |
| Dallas should trade up to get the first 2 players they want in the
draft. They have 3 #1's, 1 #2 and 3 #3's. With this many draft
picks they should be able to work something out. With there 7 picks
in the 1st 3 rnds I'd like to see them trade and come up with:
1 linebacker (Alfred Williams CO), 1 cornerback (Todd Lyght ND), and
2 off. linemen.
The draft is a long way off, lets hope the Vikes, and the Saints lose
a few more games this year to improve the draft position for those
1st round picks.
No Plan B for us this year.
Chuck
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160.127 | They should get a real lot in the draft.... | VLNVAX::MBROOKS | | Fri Dec 07 1990 08:36 | 8 |
| MINN plays Giants, Tampa Bay, Raiders and SF 49ers should be 3 loses
NO Plays Rams, Pitts, SF and Rams Could be at least 3 maybe 4 loses.
Minn and NO could finish as low as 4-6 and should both be in the 1st
10. From reading your previous note Im assuming we get NO and MINN
1st and 3rd round picks, maybe they should trade there 1st round pick
for a 2nd and a 3rd...
Mike
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160.128 | Whats YOUR opinion? | BTOVT::MANDILE_A | Just Do It | Fri Dec 14 1990 09:48 | 13 |
|
Well, how do you fellow noters think the Cowboys will do in their
next 3 games? I think they'll have a tough time against Pheinox
this week, but they'll give Philly trouble next week
(philly beat them with only 6 seconds left last time they played),
And I also think they can beat Atlanta in the season finale.
So......2-1 over the next 3 games would be great.
Al
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160.129 | Any news | RAVEN1::D_SMITH | | Fri Dec 14 1990 10:06 | 9 |
|
Any news out of Dallas about the draft? The cowboys could have a
shot of moving up to #1 with maybe a deal with New England. I heard
the Patriots might be willing to trade down.
David
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160.130 | Dallas still needs help (but has to win this week) | VLNVAX::MBROOKS | | Fri Dec 14 1990 10:08 | 17 |
| I really think they Need a win this week to stay in it, they have to
win 2 out of the last 3 to have a shot, all three are NFC and Phoenix
and Philly are both in ther division. A win this week combined with
how close they came to beeting Philly last time could give them enough
to beat philly...This would almost guarentee a spot and have the
closeing game against Atlanta that still may be needed depending on
what some others do.....With the 2 division wins they be at 3-5 and
Philly could end up at 3-5 (with the loss to dallas that is) not sure
who philly plays the last week but its someone in the division
(phoenix) i believe....
This week will be a real test for Dallas...Ultimate results
Dallas 28 Phoenix 10 Philly Beats Green Bay Pitt takes out NO
and somehow TB upsets Minn....(Its nice to dream, my last 2 weeks
have come close hopefully at least 3 of these will happen)
Mike
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160.131 | Cowboys 17 Phoenix 14 | MTHOOD::JOYNERGL | The Portland Kid | Fri Dec 14 1990 10:34 | 9 |
| I don't get to see the Cowboys much at all on TV anymore, but I
am still a big fan. I think that they will be on TV a little more
next year. I think the Cowboys will win the last three games of
the year. I saw them play the Redskins on Thanksgiving and they
looked real good. It got me excited about being a Cowboy fan again!
Go Cowboys!
Glen.
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160.132 | playoffs are a bonus | HPSRAD::SANTOS | | Fri Dec 14 1990 12:02 | 29 |
| Cowboys fans shouldn't be thinking playoffs. This weeks game is very
important for them to win because they seem to have trouble with
Phoenix. There are better team than Phoenix and they should win games
like this.
Next two weeks games against @Philly and @Atlanta should be real
interesting. They have to play them tough and come away injury free.
A mayor injury to any of there key young players could set the team
back next year.
As for the draft, to far off to start talking trades. Trading for the
#1 pick overall usually costs to much and its not worth it. I don't
feel JJ will will trade for the #1 overall. Other than that anything
can happen.
Alonso Hightsmith which cost the boys 2nd rnd pick in this coming draft
is doing fine. There was rumor that he might be added to the roster for
the Philly game, but JJ had decide to give Alonso the rest of the year
off. I don't think they have any free moves from the IR left so
Highsmith would have to clear waivers 1st to join the team. Highsmiths
knee injury has been the most mis-understood injury. The story now is
Alonso had minor surgery on his knee last may. Well after the surgery
he developed an infection in the knee and he spent some time in the
hospital and didn't get out until early June. He wasn't physically
ready to play. The report is his knee is sound and responded to rehab
nicely. The ankle injury he had was nothing serious and that too has
healed.
Chuck
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160.133 | Where the Boys will pick em | VLNVAX::MBROOKS | | Fri Dec 14 1990 12:20 | 9 |
| The USA today had a list of who they felt would go in the 1st round,
there seemed to be many OL, the Boys will have i believe 3 in the
1st round do you think theyll take 3 OL or do they have another play
in mind. I think they may want to use ther 1st pick for a WR then
take 2 OL in the 1st round, really have to wait to see whats left in
the second but IM sure theyll still be plenty of Quality OL left.
Just to make sure they have 3 in the 1st, 1 in the 2nd and 3 in the
3rd, is that correct ?????
Mike
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160.134 | Cowboys win BIG iver Pheinox | BTOVT::MANDILE_A | Just Do It | Mon Dec 17 1990 07:16 | 18 |
|
Well our Cowboys beat the hell out of the Phienox Cardinals 41-10.
Emmit smith ran for 4 touchdowns and 100+ yards.
This team seems to have a very nice balance between offense and defense.
Right now Dallas has the best chance for the final wild card spot
in the NFC, with a 7-7 record. If the season ended today they would
play the bears in the first round of the playoffs.
Next week is Philly. Cunningham looked like he was hurtin a bit
yesterday, and if he is not 100% against the Cowboys, I think well
have a good chance of winning.
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Al
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160.135 | Dallas Gets a perfect weekend | VLNVAX::MBROOKS | | Mon Dec 17 1990 08:01 | 9 |
| This week was better than you could imagine (if you like dallas)
Minnasota, Green Bay and New Orleans all lost, this puts 4 teams
tied at 6-8 (and rams could be at 6-8 after tonight). Also Dallas
has a 6-6 VS NFC and none of the 6-8 teams have a better confrence
record. If Dallas wins at Philly I think they clinch, not positive
but pretty sure. (some stat pro out there will let me know). ALso
the rams will proberbly lose tonight seeing that SF can clinch Home
field advantage with a win tonight. (oh well).
Mike
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160.136 | going ot tkae a full 60 minutes cause Randall will be ready | CNTROL::CHILDS | Got 2 shots, anywhere & anytime | Mon Dec 17 1990 08:50 | 10 |
|
Sure makes nexted week's game with the Birds more interesting. After last's
years bad blood between these two I can't wait. Aikman has been good and
Eagles secondary can be had but can the dallas front line stop the birds'
front 7?
Will JJ win coach of the year? he wins against the birds he just might...
mike
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160.137 | E. Smith for ROY | FSOA::JRODOPOULOS | Hey Mon, How Many Jobs You Got Today ? | Mon Dec 17 1990 10:14 | 12 |
| JJ deserves COY regardless of how the Cowboys do vs the Beagles (tm).
He took a 1-15 team from last in 1989 to competing for a plyoff spot in
just one year!!!!
The Cowboys' weaknesses are DL and OL and they will be quite evident
against Philly. Hopefully the offense can score on the Beagles'
secondary. Did anyone see the Luis Sharpe cheap shot on Washington
(Cowboys SS) ? Sharpe should be suspended for that kind of bulls###.
Hoping for a good weekend,
John "D Cowboys" R.
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160.138 | | CAM::WAY | Keep on ruckin' | Mon Dec 17 1990 10:59 | 11 |
| Congrats to the Cowboys on their GREAT improvement this year.
One of the pleasures of being a Giants fan has been the great
rivalry over the years between the two clubs. It's nice to see
the 'boys heading back in the right direction, because it'll
be nice to see this rivalry back on track.
You guys might even make the playoffs!
again, congrats....
'saw
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160.139 | Let's go Cowboys! | BSS::JCOTANCH | CU: Back-to-Back Big 8 Champs | Mon Dec 17 1990 11:07 | 11 |
| It's great not only to see the Cowboys back to respectability but in
the thick of the playoff race. It sure has made the JJ critics quiet
down. I don't know if the can pull it off at Philly, but it should be
a good game. Even so, Dallas should still make the playoffs if they
can win their last game (at Atlanta?).
Aikman played a great game yesterday, and the lone interception wasn't
his fault. That pass just bounced off the receiver's chest. Emmitt
Smith's 11-yard TD run at the end of the 1st quarter was one nice run.
Joe
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160.140 | COY | SHALOT::MEDVID | November spawned a monster | Mon Dec 17 1990 11:45 | 5 |
| Johnson certainly is my front-runner for COY. I think Noll and Ryan
are up there too considering the way their teams started out the
season. Schottenheimer and Shell come to mind also.
--dan'l
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160.141 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Got 2 shots, anywhere & anytime | Mon Dec 17 1990 12:27 | 10 |
|
You can't discount levy either who has opened up his offense this year.
True he should loose points for steal from Wcyhe but hey after many years
of conservatism he has changed his game. Also can't discount Siefert for
keeping those dam niners focused...
I personally hope it's JJ after all the crap he's endure. I also hope
him and Buddy start swinging on sunday...
mike
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160.142 | Once Dallas makes the Playoffs where will it end... | VLNVAX::MBROOKS | | Mon Dec 17 1990 12:38 | 13 |
| When do they vote on COY, is it before or after playoffs...Theres
lots of talk about the possiblities of dallas making the playoffs,
but what do people think about the Dallas AT Chicago Wildcard game
in week1 of the playoffs, with the way Chiago's been playing when
dallas does get there they have a very good chance at getting past
Chicago...IF this did happen I believe that they would then go out
to SF to meet the 49ers (the dallas parade will proberbly stop
there, I as a anti-49er and Dallas-fan cant even hope for this
much)...Oh, they will still have a great season and will be picking
up some top draft picks, I hope they sign all there draft picks, Id
hate to see any of there picks go to waste....Dallas a team of the
90's.....
Mike
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160.143 | | STAR::YANKOWSKAS | Paul Yankowskas | Mon Dec 17 1990 13:18 | 7 |
| re .142:
I'm almost positive that Coach of the Year is based strictly on the
regular season.
py
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160.144 | Dallas/Niners?? | BTOVT::MANDILE_A | Just Do It | Mon Dec 17 1990 14:30 | 7 |
|
IF the cowboys make it to the first round of the play offs, I'd
say they have a VERY good chance to beat the bears. I expect
"Mellow Mike" Ditka to start bashing his team if they dont turn
things around.
Al
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160.145 | Dallas makes playoffs, beats chicago and then plays SF | VLNVAX::MBROOKS | | Tue Dec 18 1990 08:16 | 6 |
| Chicago didnt seem to be playing that well all season, alot of last
minute wins over celler teams. Now I think there true colors are
starting to show. I also think that if dallas gets there (which they
should) they will beat chicago....Did SF and Dallas play this year
and if so what was the result......
Mike
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160.146 | 4 in a row, amazing | HPSRAD::SANTOS | monster is unleashed for a test run | Tue Dec 18 1990 08:40 | 15 |
| Dallas played the 49ers 5 weeks ago and the game was a disgrace. Dallas
looked awful. No offense at all, the defense played well.
If the Cowboys do face Chicago in the playoff beating the Bears will
tough. The playoff level football is a big step up from regular season
football and the Bears are a veteran playoff team.
Reply a few back:
Best to my knowledge they have 3 #1's, 1 #2's, and 3 #3's in the next
draft. They might lose one of the #3's to Phoenix for TE Robert Awalt.
The trade for him was conditional. My latest Cowboy propaganda has JJ
saying there biggest need is defensive linemen and a cornerback, but
he said that last year and they drafted offensive players.
Chuck
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160.147 | | BSS::JCOTANCH | CU: Back-to-Back Big 8 Champs | Tue Dec 18 1990 08:55 | 14 |
|
> If the Cowboys do face Chicago in the playoff beating the Bears will
> tough. The playoff level football is a big step up from regular season
> football and the Bears are a veteran playoff team.
It's definitely a different level of play in the postseason. I heard
John Madden last night say that he thinks teams pick up level of play 2
or 3 notches in the playoffs. But I also think anything can happen in
the playoffs, like an 8-8 Clevescum team almost upsetting Miami in '85,
or New England winning 3 straight road games in the '85 playoffs, or
Pittsburgh nearly upsetting the Broncos in Denver last year, or the
Vikes beating SF handily in SF in '87, etc., etc.
Joe
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160.148 | Emmitt Record? | BTOVT::MANDILE_A | Just Do It | Thu Dec 20 1990 08:38 | 10 |
|
Saw a interesting stat in yesterdays paper.
Emmit Rousin (sp?) is closing in on Tony dorsetts' rookie record for
TDs.
Dorsetts record is 12 in 1977, Rousin has 11 with 2 games left.
The all time Dallas record is held by Bob Hayes with 13 in 1965.
Sqwash the Beagles,
Al
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160.149 | Brain Fart | BTOVT::MANDILE_A | Just Do It | Thu Dec 20 1990 08:41 | 8 |
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RE:-1
That was Emmit Smith, not Rousin.......
Forgive me
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