Conference 7.286::sports_90

Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson have been close friends for years.  They started
this little tradition last year during the playoffs and it has continued.  As
far as I know, it's only the two of them.

j.

Moderator's note to other noters:  Let's not take this down any of the obvious
ratholes. 

    
    I can't beleive that...I think I would have turned off the game...
    I didn't watch it anyway.   If I saw it going on with my team I
    think I would have to write the team and let them know what I 
    thought about it.  A hand slap or a head but is fine, if your 
    going to but your lips together on national TV, what do you expect
    everyone to think.  
    
    Something they started in the playoffs???  Come on.  Just how good
    of friends are they?  Too good, I'd say.  
    
    I have friends here where I work and If I went around kissing them...
    I would probibly be fired!
    
    Hal
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    Go CAVS!

    
    After seeing Isiah "punching" Magic in the final minute it all makes
    sense to me now!  
    
    Hey, fella.  Slap slap..  You can't beat us in our Palace.  Slap, 
    Stooooop, that! 
    
    Slap slap.  
    
    What a class guy!  
    
    /Jeff
    

	Isiah was slapping Thompson.  He was kissing Magic.  I also
    thought I way Agguire blow a kiss in Magic's direction.
    
    				/Don

    I think Isiah slapped Thompson because Thompson was kissing
    Magic behind his (Isiah's) back.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Cowboy
    

    Nothing wrong with - kissing is a traditional part of greeting in
    many countries.  My 2 cents worth.  Don't bother me in the least.
    
    JD

    Kevin Johnson hugged Armond Gilliam in his first game back in Phoenix
    with a Charlotte uniform.  
    
    At least there wasn't any kissing.
    
    Mike

    JD, kissing is traditional in many coutries, also many girly-mon
    sports such as volleyball and maybe polo and assorted equestrian events
    may kiss as a greeting, but 6'7" basketball players should refrain
    from such acts, IMHO. Hugging is a totally different situation, as
    are butt-slaps, head-butts, and forearm smashes. Can you see Dick
    Butkus and Sam Huff exchanging smoochies at the 50 yard line?? :-)
    How about Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb? Wilt and Bill Russell? Hardly.
    I think Magic and Isiah should stop the gaities and play ball (no
    pun intended, Mr. Mod.) 	
    			      Raider_Rich
    

�    Nothing wrong with - kissing is a traditional part of greeting in
�    many countries.  My 2 cents worth.  Don't bother me in the least.
    
JD,

	Some countries also have specific guidelines as to when it is
appropriate to have sex with animals. That doesn't mean U.S. Pro Basketball
Players should be emulating this practice during games which are being 
televised. (Non-televised games it's okay)

Hope this helps
Mike JN

    re: -1  Good point!
    
    That brings us to sports with human/animal teams such as
    polo, horse racing and jumping.  I'm sure that these sports
    have some rules regulating the show of excitement after
    points scored or a good run.  Anyone know the official rule
    on how much affection can be shown by the rider (or horse)?
    
    Cowboy
    

�                                  Anyone know the official rule
�    on how much affection can be shown by the rider (or horse)?
    
Cowboy,

	Maybe in basketball they should institute a rule similar to the NFL's
Excessive Celebration Rule. Any celebration which might be construed as
foreplay, or excessive kink would be a Technical.

Mike JN

PS Watching the Rodeo yesterday...(all this talk of animals reminded me), those
Brahma Bull riders are flat out crazy, and the Rodeo Clowns take the word
insanity to new heights. Those clowns are totally fearless (or perform as if
they are... which is even more difficult), and really and truly save lives. I
was in awe of some of the chances they were taking to protect the riders.
Sports Illustrated ought to put together a `Greatest Rodeo Clown' clip. My hat
is off to those guys. They are great.
    

    
    I would say more like stupid. Personally, I root for the bulls. What do
    you expect them to do after they have their filberts tied with a strap
    and then get the crap shocked out them with a cattle prod? I would tend
    to get a bit upset.
    
    
    

    > I would tend to get a bit upset.
    
    Hoot, which is less upsetting, to have your filberts tied to the left
    or to the right?  What's your preference?
    
    :-)
    
    Hawk

    This reminds me of a gal I used to know...
    

/Don Film Documentary " HOOT straps his filberts and cattle prods his way to
                        spiritual enlightenment "

    Hoot, what part would upset you, the strap or the shock?  And, if
    this upsets you a bit, what would you REALLY get upset over, a
    Bronco SB win maybe?  :*)
    
    Lee

    lEe, I'd be willing to bet that Hoot would rather be strapped and
    shocked for a whole year than to ever see a Bronco Super Bowl win!
    
    JMHO, FYI, HTH.
    
    Hawk

                          A Donk SuperBowl Victory!!

                       Hoot would be a sight to behold!

                          SET PROD POWER :== MAXIMUM

                         SET INSERTION INDEX :== FULL

	Then HOOT would hang himself with his sequin studded filbert strap, and
go to his Maker ( MATTELL ) screaming about crooked REFS (tm), Perry's holding,
late hits, bad calls, and anything else hallugeon (tm) induced paranoia could
concoct in his fevered brainpan.

               WHOA! I would be standing beside myself for joy!

                       GOOOOOOOOOOO D O N K S !!!!!!!!1

                                   Mike JN

    
    We don't have to worry about a donk Super Bowl victory. It will never
    happen in our life time. There is a better chance of the moon crashing
    into the earth.

    Does that mean the moon is crashing before next Sunday?
    
    Lee

    Lee are you predicting a Bronco win?
    
    frank "9er"

    what does this stuff have to do with kissing in the NBA???
    

    
re: -1    
>    We don't have to worry about a donk Super Bowl victory. It will never
>    happen in our life time. There is a better chance of the moon crashing
>    into the earth.
    
     Who mentioned anything about [pile-ons = kissing] in these last few
     replies??

    And to take Steven a little further.
    
    What about all the butt smacking/patting that goes on in sports,
    especially baseball.  An uproar over a few smoochies, but we are
    regularly subjected to grown men in double knits fondling each other's
    bum!!!
    
    Sarge
    

�    regularly subjected to grown men in double knits fondling each other's
�    bum!!!
    
Sarge,

	And this I find morally repugnant. Certain baseball psuedo-leagues have
a Designated Hitter. Why can't they have a Designated Bum? This could be a
suitably endowed young lady (from a good home, and with a degree as a Licensed
Tactilition). Whenever the occasion warranted, the players could celebrate by
rushing over and fondling HER bum, instead of each other's. I mean, there's no
need for the boys of summer to behave like a bunch of convicts, ya know.
    
Mike JN

    JD, how would you feel if you were lining-up for a race in a "Corporate
    Challenge" and several of your opponents came over to you for an
    exchange of kisses?  Would you feel uncomfortable, or would you take
    the same stance (as in this note) and oblige?  Try to think of this as
    a participant and not an observer.......
    
    Bum slapping is just that- slapping, not touchy-feely.  I slap my kids'
    bums all the time as a sign of a job well done.  I touchy-feely my
    wife's bum when I'm in the "mood"......  :-)
    
    Hawk

    Hawk,
    
    Most of the corporate challenges are co-ed, so I'd enjoy it alot.
    ALso, Magic and Isiah kiss cause they want to, as friends.  They
    don't (at least I haven't seen them), go around kissing strangers.
    
    Sarge

    Sarge, this could turn into yet another LDUC.....  :-)
    
    Hey, I just wish these clowns would kiss each other outside the
    lockerroom before they come out on "stage".  This way, my son won't get
    the "wrong" idea......
    
    I forgot about the Corporate Challenge being co-ed, so I don't blame
    you for frenching some of your competitors!  :-)
    
    Hawk

    Hawk,
    
    I wouldn't mind patting some of the Corp. Challengers on their
    bums either!  ;-))
    
    JD

    My question is, do they do this because they are close friends,
    or because they seek the publicity that it brings them?  Why can't
    they exchange their kisses under the stands, before the games? 
    I know that some people will say that the other guys shake hands
    in the tap-off circle, but still.
    
    The other thing is what ever happened to competitive spirit?  I
    wonder how much they really want to beat each other if they kiss.
    Wilt Chamberlin and Bill Russell used to exchange glaring handshakes
    before the game, go at each other like mortal enemies for four
    quarters, and then get togehter for dinner after the game.  While
    they played the HATED each other, and they saved friendship for
    after the game.
       
    I have no problem with the fact that two guys kiss, or think that they
    are less "manly" because of it.
    
    My $.02 worth.
    
    Bob

What's the problem???  Everyone knows that Isiah is gay!!!!

Monty

    I thought Isiah is married with children, no?

prolly jis a front, yaknow whatimean,huh..huh?

    
    When Isaiah was asked if he thought he would have any trouble making
    the all-star team this year he replied, "Not if I buy them drinks
    first."
    
    -Dick
    

�    Hey, I just wish these clowns would kiss each other outside the
�    lockerroom before they come out on "stage".  This way, my son won't get
�    the "wrong" idea......
 
    I guess you should also keep your son away from certain cultures where
    greetings other than the standard American handshake are the norm.     

    If they kissed "backstage", they may never come out, cuz I think
    Magic likes Isiah's butt. Mac, its tough to teach kids morals in
    OUR society without worrying about the fact that in France its ok
    to kiss yer buddy  :-)
    				Raider_Rich
    

�   Mac, its tough to teach kids morals in
�    OUR society without worrying about the fact that in France its ok
�    to kiss yer buddy  :-)
    
    After reading stuff like this:
    
�              -< "Kiss me, you Magic-Man" Isiah said... Then.... >-
�
�    If they kissed "backstage", they may never come out, cuz I think
�    Magic likes Isiah's butt. 
    
    I can see why.

    Totally absurd remark, Mac.  No way should I or would I keep my son
    away from "certain cultures where greetings other than the standard
    American handshake are the norm."  As a matter of fact, I have lived in
    another culture for periods of time in my childhood where kissing my
    male relatives was the accepted and expected greeting.  And, in fact, I
    hope to bring my son there in the next few years where he will learn
    that culture's proper greeting and be expected to follow suit.
    
    But what we have here is not an accepted form of greeting, it is a
    sideshow to purposely draw attention.  I wouldn't be surprised if these
    athletes were trying to invent a new fad to see how "far and wide" this
    thing'll go, just to get their jollies seeing how many millions they
    directly influenced.  Well, they ain't making a fool out of my kid!
    
    And to imply predjudice on my part is way out of line, and it urinates
    me off.  Your reply should be set-hidden.
    
    Hawk

�    But what we have here is not an accepted form of greeting, it is a
�    sideshow to purposely draw attention.  
    
    Shouldn't you preface this with the statement "In my opinion"?
    
�    And to imply predjudice on my part is way out of line, and it urinates
�    me off.  Your reply should be set-hidden.
    
    This is a good example of what I have been trying to tell some people
    in here.  It is very easy for a point to be misunderstood and/or taken
    out of context.  Maybe some people will think about their replies a
    little longer before entering them or at least make efforts to make
    them a little clearer.  If you had put in your explanation given in
    120.42 along with your original comment that you didn't want your son
    to get the wrong idea when they see two athletes kiss, I wouldn't have
    jumped on you.  All of these assumptions by others about the sexual
    preferences of athletes based on one act didn't set well with me
    either, so I jumped.

�   Mac, its tough to teach kids morals in
�    OUR society without worrying about the fact that in France its ok
�    to kiss yer buddy  :-)
    
    
    It doesn't really matter what they do in other countries.  If they
    were in another country kissing each other it *wouldn't* be a big
    deal.  But, since they are smacking each other in *this* country,
    where it normally doesn't happen (I'm not talking about San Fran)
    it is expected that the reaction is going to be negative.  I don't
    know what their real reason for doing this is but they must have
    expected some negative reaction to it.
    
    Are they trying to set a trend?  Get attention?  Do they really
    sweetie pies?  What if they tried it on me or my son?  I'm sure
    that I'd have a negative reaction towards it and take a tire tool
    to the side of their haids (tm).
    
    These fellers are open game for any kind of slop you want to sling.
    They *do* have a right to do what they want but since they are 
    openly "breaking the rules" of normal society *in public* then they
    should expect to duck tomatoes.
    
    X0X0X0
    
    Cowboy
    

    re: -1
    
    Yeah, but then Isiah would be hiking his leg on the goal post
    and licking the ref.
    
    They better just keep it to kissing each other.
    
    Cowboy
    

    
>          "Sniff me, you magic-man"   
    
 That's great Steven!!! hahahahahahah  That one will go down in history...

    
    
    

    re: .39
    
    I know it wasn't directed towards me....but given that anyone is
    entitled to join in on a noting 'conversation'......
    
    I am personally offended by Mac (or anyone else) suggesting to someone
    else how he/she raise his/her children!!!  WTFAY to pass judgement on
    anyone else???
    
    
    A disgruntled,
    
    Nelly (who btw prefers a handshake)

    re "sniff me..."  (floorward!!!)
    Yea but you see any tongue at all,   RUN!!!!!!!
    			Raider_Rich
    

    <<< Note 120.1 by VAXWRK::NEEDLE "Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye."" >>>

>>Moderator's note to other noters:  Let's not take this down any of the obvious
>>ratholes. 

Since this was ignored and this isn't the right conference to slander
basketball players and/or groups of people, this note has been terminated with
extreme prejudice.

j.

    Jeff.....
    
            My apologies for starting this Rat Hole. I really wanted
    to know when this activity had started and what brought it on. I
    
    should of thought more about the responses I was going to get....
    I didn't want to start any bad feelings between noters...
    
    and my final response, after watching the Music Awards nothing on
    T.V will ever surprise me again!!!
    
                                  Thanks.....
    
                                                 Dave G.