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Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
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97.0. "Bowl Game Teams" by CNTROL::GROSS () Tue Jan 02 1990 20:35

    Could anybody tell me how the teams for each bowl game are determined?
    
    Is based on record, division standings, or rankings?
    
    Bill
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97.1FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Wed Jan 03 1990 07:5446
    A large part of it is driven by conference tie-ins.  The Rose Bowl
    is made up of the champions of the Pac-10 and the Big 10.  The
    California Bowl pits the winners of the Mid America Conference and
    the Big West Conference.  The Big 8 champion goes to the Orange Bowl, 
    the Southeast Conference champion goes to the Sugar Bowl, the Southwest
    Conference champion goes to the Cotton Bowl, the Atlantic Coast
    Conference champion goes to the Citrus Bowl and the Western Athletic
    Conference champion goes to the Holiday Bowl.  The top service academy
    goes to the Liberty Bowl (just started this year) and there is a group
    of teams (among which are Tulsa and Southern Miss) that has a tie in to the
    Independence Bowl.
    
    The bowls with the most money call the shots - the Orange Bowl,
    Sugar Bowl, Cotton Bowl and Fiesta Bowl try if possible to come
    up with a national championship game.  The Fiesta Bowl, since it
    has no tie-ins and a lot of money, was able to match Penn State
    and Miami for the 1986 National title, and was able to match Notre
    Dame and West Virginia last year.  The bowl that is able to get
    the top ranked team or teams (this year, the Orange Bowl got #1
    Colorado and would have had #1 vs #2 had Notre Dame beaten Miami)
    proclaims itself as the game for the national championship.
    
    After these big bowls get the cream of the crop, the others scramble
    for whoever is left.  Again, the pecking order here is determined
    by money.  Whichever bowl has the most money to pay a team has its
    choice of team.  But, better teams when it comes to this level of
    bowl is determined almost more by fan support than it is by the
    quality of a team.  A team that is known for being able to sell
    a lot of tickets and bring a lot of people to the host city but
    has a mediocre record (ie, 7-4) is much more attractive to a bowl
    committee than a team with a great record but doesn't have any sort
    of national following, or whose fan support is somewhat soft.  The
    Boston College teams of the mid-seventies are a perfect example
    of this.  They were winning 8-9 games a year, unknown outside the
    east, boring and with fan support that was questionable.  No bowl
    bids.  They have now developed a reputation of being exciting and
    of having lots of people go to a bowl game that they're in.  Notre
    Dame will probably always get a bowl bid even if they finish 6-5.
    Georgia went to the Peach Bowl this year with a 6-5 record going
    in.
    
    A college team, once it establishes a reputation, can go to bowl
    games annually and not have to have that good a record to do so.
    But it does take a while to build that reputation.
    
    John
97.2more $$$ maybeCNTROL::GROSSThu Jan 04 1990 17:4211
    Thanks for the info, John. It is greatly appreciated.
    
    Another question I have is:
    
    Can teams turn down a bowl game for a chance to play in a bigger one?
    
    Are some teams not allowed to participate in bowl games for one
    reason or another?
    
    
    Bill
97.3FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Fri Jan 05 1990 08:1311
    If a team isn't tied to a bowl by a conference agreement, they can
    play in any bowl that asks them to.  The exception is the ACC tie
    with the Citrus Bowl.  The ACC team can opt out if they have a chance
    to play for a National Championship.
    
    If a school is on NCAA probation, it may not be allowed to play
    in a bowl.  For a long time, only the winner of the Big 10 was allowed
    to play in any bowl at all (league policy) and up until 1969, Notre
    Dame did not, as a school policy, play in bowl games.
    
    John