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| 86.1 | Say "Hello" to Ty Cobb for us, willya Billy ??? | DWOVAX::HUNT | Carolina Bound | Tue Dec 26 1989 00:25 | 12 |
| Billy The Kid dead at age 61.
If ever there was a sports figure who was one step away from total
calamity, it was Billy The Kid. Whether it was a barroom fight with a
marshmallow salesman or his legendary conflicts with Reggie Jackson or
his yo-yo managerial career under Steinbrenner, Martin was always
walking the fine edge separating the sane from the not-so-sane.
I wouldn't hold him up as an example to my children but, just the same,
I'll miss him. He was not a boring person.
Bob Hunt
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| 86.2 | Maybe we haven't seen the last of Billy... | TAV02::CHAIM | Semper ubi Sub ubi ..... | Tue Dec 26 1989 05:01 | 6 |
| I'm not sure they'll be able to handle him up/down there any better than anyone
could here.
So they might just send him back....
Cb.
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| 86.3 | Sorry to see him go! | MILPND::VLASAK | Road Warrior | Tue Dec 26 1989 07:34 | 7 |
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From the TV shots the truck didn't appear too badly damaged at all.
It also appears that Billy had the seat belt buckled BEHIND him.
But then no one ever accused Billy of good sense!
Bob V.
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| 86.4 | | NEXUS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not The Cat, Bot The Glove | Tue Dec 26 1989 08:36 | 3 |
| I loved to watch him coach. Rest in Peace!
Glenn
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| 86.5 | | 39131::DHAMEL | Is Nothing Sacred? | Tue Dec 26 1989 10:23 | 6 |
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And Billy, if the devil gives ya any crap, spit in his eye and kick
some cinders on 'em.
-Dick
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| 86.6 | The joke was on Mantle ... | EMASS::APOSTO | For All Those Who Dare | Tue Dec 26 1989 11:52 | 28 |
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Billy Martin was a character, I liked him...
Did anyone ever hear the story about Martin and Mantle ....
Mickey Mantle was on Larry King once, and I heard him tell this story
of how he and Billy went on a trip down south to visit a friend. His
friend lived on a farm, so Mickey goes inside and the guy's not there
but his elderly mother is. She asks Mickey to do her a favor by killing
one of the mules she has outside, because it is sick and dying. But she
didn't have the heart to do it herself. (Mickey and Billy were going on
a hunting trip). So Mickey says he'll do it, and goes outside.
He decides to play a gag on Billy and says,"that S.O.B. he ain't even
here to go hunting with us, he has all the trails and ...". Then he
says I oughta shoot the guy's mule ! So he pulls out his rifle and
aims at the sick mule and says "I am gonna shoot his mule" so he fires
and kills the mule.
Then Mickey hears a BANG and sees that Billy has killed another mule.
What A CLASSIC ! Billy Martin was a one-of-a-kind...
P.S. (Mickey had a bunch of other stories about he and Billy, if you
get the chance to see a Mantle interview - do it.)
Spartan
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| 86.7 | Billy Ball...The only way to play | SHANE::PACIELLO | | Tue Dec 26 1989 21:58 | 19 |
| Actually the story is told in the book, I believe the title was,
Whitey and Mickey??? It was a great book, and related that story.
Whitey told another story about when the Yankees traded Billy
to the Kansas City A's. All the players were upset, especially
Whitey. The first game they played against the A's. the Yanks
jumped on top quick...It was later in the game, Yanks were up
by several runs and the A's decided to put in Martin. Whitey
was pitching. He decided to throw a big "fat" one for Martin
to hit. Martin was so surprised, that he didn't swing. So, on
the next pitch, as he was throwing it, Whitey yells to
Billy, "Hey Billy, same pitch" Martin clouts it for a homer..
Whitey gets fined.... :-)
Billy Martin was my favorite manager. I've been watching Yankee
games for 25 years now, and no manager ws more enjoyable to
watch than Martin. I miss him like I miss Thurm.....
-MIke
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| 86.8 | bye bye #1 | CNTROL::CHILDS | Jihad confirms, Mathis gets bonus | Wed Dec 27 1989 08:51 | 8 |
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The story is also told in Billy's auto, Number 1....
a sad day indeed, a man who lived fast and died hard...
thank god he enjoyed all that he wanted in between...
mike
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| 86.9 | | JULIET::MAY_BR | It's a Jingle out there | Wed Dec 27 1989 12:03 | 7 |
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I heard something I thought was funny on the way in to work. For
those easily offended, I'll put it behind a form feed.
A local dj was talking about the proper way to honor Billy. His
idea is that they lower the casket into the ground and have a bunch
of unpires kick the dirt over the top of it.
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| 86.10 | | 39131::DHAMEL | Is Nothing Sacred? | Wed Dec 27 1989 12:40 | 8 |
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That was sick and disrespectful!
I loved it!
-Dick
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| 86.11 | | CSC32::SALZER | | Wed Dec 27 1989 13:05 | 4 |
| Yet another victim of the drunk driver. How many sports
figures does that make in recent years?
BoB
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| 86.12 | | RIGEL4::JBONNO | | Wed Dec 27 1989 14:38 | 11 |
| Well, I am starting to get the impression that Billy had hit the bottle
pretty hard as well.
After all, someone is driving his truck, and as a previous note said,
the seat belt was buckled behind him (Maybe it looked like this after
the crash). And then, the wife decides not to have an autopsy.
Very interesting. If anyone has heard anything to refute this, please
let me now.
jab
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| 86.13 | | COBRA::DINSMORE | Mcfall=francessa , true sport wizards | Wed Dec 27 1989 14:44 | 8 |
| jab,
i think billys wife doesnt want a autospy for reasons other than
to be checking for alcohol dont you??
Dinz
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| 86.14 | | RIGEL4::JBONNO | | Wed Dec 27 1989 14:56 | 5 |
| Yea, but it sounded good.
8^) It kindof supported my thoughts.
jab
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| 86.15 | | FSHQA2::JHENDRY | John Hendry, DTN 292-2170 | Wed Dec 27 1989 15:04 | 7 |
| The state of Billy's health at the time of the crash is irrelevant
to pressing criminal charges. After all, Billy wasn't driving.
Someone was quoted today as saying that he died of a broken neck,
pure and simple. Why bother with an autopsy, except for someone
looking for publicity?
John
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| 86.16 | | REFINE::ASHE | Walt's Wackos: 1989 FFL champions! | Wed Dec 27 1989 15:09 | 3 |
| He'll be missed. Brought Detroit a pennant too...
-Walt
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| 86.18 | | AUSTIN::MACNEAL | Big Mac | Wed Dec 27 1989 15:27 | 12 |
| Interesting article on Billy in today's paper. It stated that Billy
had been hitting the sauce pretty hard since last being fired. He was
known to drink before, after, and during Yankee games in addition to
his many reported sightings in various night spots. Martin was
apparently devastated by his Yankee firings. He wanted nothing more
than to be a Yankee for the rest of his life. It said that what really
broke him was the fight in which he got beat up very badly by a pitcher
(forgot his name - Whitson?).
George wanted Billy to work very closely with Bucky next year. Thus
fueling rumors that Billy would have been managing the Yanks yet again
next year.
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| 86.19 | | SHANE::PACIELLO | | Wed Dec 27 1989 20:33 | 10 |
| I have to agree John, an autospy would do nothing more than fuel the
fires of typically vicious beat writers. Everyone knows that Billy's
had drinking problems in the past, while it may have contributed to
his death, what good does it do now? Death is not retrospective, it's
the end of a human life and the beginning of a memory....
Let's keep it that way...
-Mike
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| 86.20 | | DASXPS::TIMMONS | I'm a Pepere! | Thu Dec 28 1989 06:07 | 3 |
| Personally, I just want to let him rest in peace.
Lee
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| 86.21 | | CAM::WAY | And The Wall came tumblin' down... | Tue Jan 02 1990 12:02 | 13 |
| I was saddened by the death of Billy Martin. Plain and simple the
man was a character in a sport known for spawning characters.
While I was never a Yankee fan, I *never* tire of watching that film
clip of Martin kicking dirt to cover the plate, the ump's shoes, and
even picking some up and dumping on the plate.
It's a shame that a sports decade that began in such an exalted fashion
with the USA winning the Gold in Olympic Hockey, had to end on such
a sad note.
RIP Billy,
Chainsaw
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| 86.22 | Mantle, Martin, drunk driving | JUPITR::MOK | Charles P. Mok | Tue Jan 02 1990 12:12 | 19 |
| Read last week in USA Today a short article with some comments by
Mickey Mantle on Billy Martin and the accident which took Martin's
life. Mantle said that he knows the driver of the vehicle, also called
Billy something, and that that guy can drive a truckload of beer and
not get drunk a bit, so he has no doubt that being drunken has no
effect on the accident whatsoever. How can a grown man be so stupid to
make comments like this? Mantle said he is not condoning drunk
driving, and kids should listen to their moms and dads and stay away
from drug and alcohol, and he did so he would not be retiring so early.
I think Mantle still has a mental problem with his dependency and he is
still not accepting alcoholism and drug abuse as the diseases that they
are, both for himself and for others.
As for Martin, he is stupid enough to first sit in a car with a driver
who is drunk, even if he does not look so, and second, he is even more
stupid not to have wore a seat belt. He has no one to blame but
himself.
Charles
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| 86.23 | | TACKLE::STROUT | knocking on heaven's door... | Tue Jan 02 1990 12:35 | 7 |
| > and second, he is even more stupid not to have wore a seat belt.
> He has no one to blame but himself.
NYS also has a seat belt law. Martin probably would have survived
if he had just used it.
sean
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| 86.25 | floorward!!! hahahaaaa | CNTROL::CHILDS | Broncos&Elway#1inmybook | Wed Jan 10 1990 14:34 | 1 |
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| 86.26 | Hah! | RHETT::KNORR | MrT: Convicted Felon. :^( | Wed Jan 10 1990 15:48 | 1 |
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| 86.27 | | NRADM::KING | Just another day at the terminal... | Wed Jan 10 1990 19:24 | 6 |
| Last thing I heard is that Billy wanted to be cremated...
He wanted to be fired one more time!!!
REK
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