| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 61.1 | Live from...the "BONE ZONE". | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Mon Dec 18 1989 07:06 | 46 |
|
Week 15
Bernie Kosar leads the Browns on game tieing drive and the
Matt Barr kicks for the 3 pointer with 25 seconds
left in regulation.
Bernie also leads the team on the game winning drive in OT.
Throws 45 yard pass to Langhorn to set up the big
fake field goal from the 15 yard line.
Bernie, named "PLAYER OF THE GAME".
If anyone has the stats for Bernie....put them here....
Sence I pick up direct transmission...I picked up the post
game interview with none other than Bernie.
What didn't get transmitted to local television stations...
Question: Bernie, did you know about the fake punt???
Bernie: Yes, we practiced it all week. We should have done
it last week but, we kicked the "dam" ball.
After a long pause...he says...I know that wasn't on live TV.
HeHeHeHeHe What a guy!
In the game...Bernie also played with a cut throwing hand...
after the second play the camara picks up on the blood running
down his hand and all the blood on his pants. But, This does
not stop him from bringing the Browns from behind. Bernie even
runs for a big first down in OT that saves the drive.
GO BERNIE
GO BROWNS
ARF ARF ARF
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| 61.2 | From the Pound..."BONE ZONE" | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Mon Dec 18 1989 07:41 | 6 |
|
BERNIE STATS WEEK 15 18 FOR 38 256 YARDS
NO INTERCEPTIONS
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| 61.3 | ? | MILPND::VLASAK | Road Warrior | Mon Dec 18 1989 08:14 | 7 |
| The local station (Providence?) I watched had the Bernie K. interview.
Now I'll play straight man...
What's in the Bernie Kosar bar?
Bob V.
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| 61.4 | The Way It Will Be | PTOMV6::JACOB | Steelers pray for wildcard in '89 | Mon Dec 18 1989 08:18 | 12 |
| Prediction:
Wild Card Game: Bernie sips hot toddy's while watching wild card
game o his bigscreen with his boyfriend at his side.
JaKe
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| 61.5 | The Way it is.. | RIGEL4::JBONNO | | Mon Dec 18 1989 08:39 | 10 |
| re Jake
Yea, he might be watching the Wild Card Game because he will be
interested in who his team might play after the Wild Card winner goes off
to Donkeyland and beats the Donks.
BERNIE, BERNIE WHOOOOA
SUPER BOWL!! YEA YEA YEA YEA
jab
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| 61.6 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN | Mon Dec 18 1989 08:58 | 0 |
| 61.7 | "BONE ZONE" | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Mon Dec 18 1989 12:15 | 26 |
|
You won't beleive this one.....I figured out why the Browns lost
the last 3 games and tied the other.....
Well, when something like this happens to your team...you start
looking for something, anything, that might help.
I found it last Friday...
I keep these dice in my car that hang from the review mirror...
and on the dice I keep all of my Cleveland Brown buttons...Well,
as the story goes...about 5 weeks ago...my girl friend took my
car to work with her. I haven't changed her into the Browns fan
that I am yet, but I know it won't take long. Anyway, She gets
teased alot when she drives my car...I drive a Ford Festiva and
she drives a Honda Prelude...I have lots of Browns things in the
car...license plate...buttons...Browns window stick dawg and lots
more... So, because she can't take a ribbing...she took the dice
and buttons down and stuck them under the seat. I didn't do anything
about it because I like driving her car. Well, after last weeks
loss, I deceided to put them up again... and The BROWNS WIN!
Sorry fans....I won't let that happen again!
ARF ARF ARF
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| 61.8 | Lite Locked! | AJCVAX::COTE | Al | Mon Dec 18 1989 14:28 | 0 |
| 61.9 | Joe Willie White Shoes....... | SASE::SZABO | Samurai Bartender | Wed Dec 20 1989 08:47 | 4 |
| The lasted time I had a "crush" on a sports personality, I was 12 years
old.......
Hawk
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| 61.10 | Bernie and the Bone Bashers | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Wed Dec 20 1989 08:52 | 10 |
|
Bernie, what a guy!!! #19!!! The best the AFC has!!! The only
guy that can beat the NFC!
Another letter to come.....
I bet you all can't wait...?
How about the stats after 15 weeks......
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| 61.11 | | COBRA::DINSMORE | Mcfall=francessa , true sport wizards | Wed Dec 20 1989 09:35 | 8 |
|
barfffffffffffffffffffffffffff... if clevelands wins in houston
they will deserve division.. gonna be tough with those oilers
at home
woof woof..
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| 61.12 | ~/~ | AUSTIN::MACNEAL | Big Mac | Thu Dec 21 1989 09:56 | 5 |
| Question: Who did Cleveland coach, Bud Carson, vote for as QB for the
AFC pro-bowl team?
Answer: Warren Moon, saying noone else was close.
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| 61.13 | | SALEM::RIEU | We're Taxachusetts...AGAIN | Thu Dec 21 1989 09:57 | 2 |
| Coaches can't vote for their own guys.
Denny
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| 61.14 | The Clowns... What a Laugh !! | QUASER::HUNTER | Jack's Diner, No Brains, No Service | Thu Dec 21 1989 14:16 | 10 |
| YAP! YAP! YAP!
The Clowns will be out of it after the Oilslicks POUND the
sh*t out of them this weekend...... Count On It !!!
HTH,
Big Game
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| 61.15 | The first of three... | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Fri Dec 22 1989 07:32 | 43 |
|
November 1989
I would like to start this letter with a word of thanks, not
only for joining my fan club, but for supporting the Cleveland Browns.
As you probably know, this is one of three letters you will
receive from me. To begin, let me tell you a little bit about
myself. I'll be twenty-six years old on November 25, and I am the
oldest of three children. I am originally from Boardman, Ohio,
where I graduated from Boardman High School in 1982. I continued
my education at the University of Miami, Florida. In three years
I graduated with a degree in finance. I've also taken law classes
at Case Western Reserve. I am very proud of my academic
accomplishments. I think anyone who stays in school should be
proud. An education is something that you will always have, no
matter what path you take in life.
I feel blessed that I had the opportunity to go to school and
be a successful student, but not everyone is a fortunate. There
are thousands of teen-agers and adults who cannot read or write,
through no fault of their own. The systemn never worked to their
advantage. That is why this season I am supporting the Cleveland
area's Project:LEARN program. Project:LEARN is a non-profit
educational corporation that helps reduce illiteracy in the Cleveland
area. The program works through a series of volunteers who act
as educators to the people who need them. Currently, the program
can provide service to more than 40,000 adults in the Cleveland
area.
I think this is a great organization, and if you ever have the
opportunity to be a volunteer, please do so. To those of you who
are still in school, stay in school! It will bring you success
and happiness...believe me, I know.
I hope you have a great holiday season, and remember,
"CHEER FOR THE BROWNS!"
Sincerely,
Bernie J. Kosar, Jr. #19
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| 61.16 | Oh, c'mon | PTOMV6::JACOB | Steelers pray for wildcard in '89 | Fri Dec 22 1989 07:35 | 13 |
| re.15
I THINK I'M GONNA PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Bernie couldn't hold Mark Malone's jockstrap.(Although he's expressed
interest in holding it, for starters)
JaKe
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| 61.17 | | 39131::DHAMEL | I saw Noriega in K-mart | Fri Dec 22 1989 08:51 | 3 |
|
What good is a newsletter when most of the fan club is in the
illiterate group he's trying to help? :-)
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| 61.19 | Kosar Tea:==jock in cup a hot water | PTOMV6::JACOB | Steelers pray for wildcard in '89 | Fri Dec 22 1989 14:14 | 1 |
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| 61.20 | He just called... | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Fri Dec 22 1989 18:09 | 10 |
|
Prediction:
Stats...Saturday night: 32 for 45
338 yards
No interceptions
3 TDs
ARF!
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| 61.21 | Browns Bowl Bound Bash! 2 down! | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Wed Dec 27 1989 07:44 | 17 |
|
Bernie drives the Browns for the big, needed TD and delivers a major
blow to Houston and the rest of the NFL!
Bernie's stats.....close to the prediction...
something like...
18 for 32
238 yards
No interceptions
2 TDs
The Browns come alive just in time!
Excelent pass protection and a good running game!
Little things help!
ARF ARF ARF
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| 61.22 | 1st round no more no less | KAOFS::R_OBAS | | Wed Dec 27 1989 10:11 | 2 |
| Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you Miss Whitehair.
Your team deserve to be in the 1st round.
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| 61.23 | THE BROWNS GIVE BUFFALO THE BIG BONNER! | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Wed Dec 27 1989 10:42 | 19 |
|
RE:-1
Well, you got the last name right...
wouldn't the first round be the wildcard games???
so...Cleveland gets a bye in the 1st round and play Buffalo
in the 2nd round....then
they will play...who.....the Oilers again??? Yea, I think so!
The Donks are old!!! and NO GOOD!
BERNIE KOSAR.....#19......= #1 AFC CENTRAL DIVISION
ARF!
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| 61.24 | Ok then make it 2nd round | KAOFS::R_OBAS | | Wed Dec 27 1989 10:46 | 2 |
|
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| 61.25 | | CSCOA3::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Dec 27 1989 12:12 | 7 |
| > so...Cleveland gets a bye in the 1st round and play Buffalo
> in the 2nd round....then
> they will play...who.....the Oilers again??? Yea, I think so!
I didn't know they had a consolation game in the AFC playoffs.
When did that start ?
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| 61.26 | What a guy! | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Wed Jan 10 1990 13:23 | 31 |
|
Good Game Bernie!
He didn't have to throw the ball much, but, when he did...TDDDDDDDD!
22 out of 29 for over 250 yards. No interceptions!
He used Ozzie and Slaughter to hit the Bills with the big one, two.
I got pretty worried there for a second. On the play where Mack
took the hard hit and Bernie was also hit as he threw the ball.
I didn't know if Mack was going to return then, there was Bernie
looking at his hand again...Didn't look good. I noticed that
throughout the game he kept squeezing it together. I haven't
heard a injury report yet...
What about Eitherway???
WOOF!
ps...I'm expecting a note from him any day now...Keep sending those
Bernie Bars!
BERnie
BERnie
BERnie!
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| 61.27 | Fit as a fiddle... | BUILD::MORGAN | | Wed Jan 10 1990 15:24 | 4 |
| Kosar has a hip pointer and sprained middle finger on his throwing
hand, from what I've read. But they had an extra day to recover.
Steve
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| 61.28 | | QUASER::HUNTER | Jack's Diner, No Brains, No Service | Wed Jan 10 1990 16:03 | 5 |
| Yap! Yap! Yap!
Bernie sips in public.
Big Game
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| 61.29 | Bernie...how you can throw! | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Thu Jan 11 1990 08:46 | 13 |
| What is a hip pointer??? I have no idea...
Is that someone who's hip points to where the ball is going
to go???
BERNIE IS THE BEST!
Thanks for the latest.
WOOF!
WOOF!
WOOF!
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| 61.30 | | MCIS1::DHAMEL | Is Nothing Sacred? | Thu Jan 11 1990 08:53 | 8 |
|
Hip pointer: a paisley pointed stick used to indicate objects on
a chart or blackboard.
HTH
-Dick
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| 61.31 | Totally groinal, man, totally groinal... | CAM::WAY | And death shall have no dominion | Thu Jan 11 1990 11:58 | 7 |
| It's when a certain part of the male anatomy gets hit so hard during
that game, that it moves from longitudinal center to over the hip.
It has then become a hip pointer.
This is different from a groin pull, fyi.
Chainsaw
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| 61.33 | | GENRAL::GIBSON | | Thu Jan 11 1990 14:37 | 6 |
|
The hip pointer shouldn't bother him. He can't run anyway. But hten
again didn't Crazy Legs Bernie ramble for about a 30 yd run the last
time these two met.
Kay is doubtful with a "pulled muscle".
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| 61.34 | Kay, I never heard of him... | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | | Thu Jan 11 1990 14:52 | 15 |
|
General Gibson...
That is good to hear...and you are right...Bernie has
been running very good lately...they don't give him much credit.
He may not look good doing it, but, he does it anyway. And,
I might add, doesn't do the slide action either...like some
QB'S I've seen...I've seen Bernie fake pretty good too. He
even ran in a TD earlier this year.
Bernie - The only quarterback that can win the AFC
a Superbowl!
WOOF!
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| 61.35 | BENGALS FOR THE BOWL 1991 | EAYV01::DWALLACE | Fraggle Rock Detective | Mon Jan 15 1990 09:14 | 10 |
| WELL WELL WELL WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP.
I WATCHED BERNIE BONEHEAD AGAINST DENVER LAST NIGHT.
QUESTION:IS HE NOT SUPPOSED TO THROW THE BALL TO HIS
OWN TEAM . HE WAS DIABOLICAL BUT GREAT FOR A
LAUGH.
P.S. HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER STAYING
AT HOME IN HIS KENNEL.
SEE YOU SEPTEMBER,
ALIBENGAL
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| 61.36 | Bye,Bye,Bernie... | ROULET::DONOFRIO | | Mon Jan 15 1990 11:53 | 5 |
| Bernie looked almost as pathetic as Whitehair walking around here
at HLO in his Day Glow Orange sneakers Friday before the blowout
at Mile High. Hopefully this past performance will shut his mouth
for the remainder of the year. Bernie and the boys choked again.
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| 61.37 | | QUASER::HUNTER | Jack's Diner, No Brains, No Service | Mon Jan 15 1990 12:16 | 3 |
| I know I'll miss him... ;^)
Big Game
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| 61.38 | Don't say to much | COMET::JACKSONTA | Go D!!!! | Tue Jan 16 1990 18:09 | 10 |
| RE: .35
Thats good, Hey Whitehair, It appears Elway out classed Bernie
again!!! Whats this note say?? Bernie vs all comers??
Maybe it should read Bernie not as good as Elway!!
Has Bernie ever gone to the Probowl??? I can't remember..
Tim
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| 61.39 | | CSC32::SALZER | | Tue Jan 16 1990 18:22 | 4 |
| Once again Bernie remains in the shadow of #7. Why didn't they
pull him? That was a mistake. He was obviously a hurting unit.
BoB
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| 61.40 | | SALEM::RIEU | We're Taxachusetts...AGAIN! | Wed Jan 17 1990 07:10 | 4 |
| I'm sure we'll get an update when the next "Bernie Bulletin'
goes out to his fan club. On the other hand maybe he'll just say
"screw the little geeks, I got my bux, the season's over".
Denny
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| 61.41 | What a pansy ! | EARRTH::BROOKS | If you think this was bad ... | Wed Jan 17 1990 10:33 | 5 |
| Bernie has handles on his ankles.
I think you all know why ....
DrM
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| 61.42 | How does one "exude greatness"? | CAM::WAY | Barnes to Rush....he SCORES!!!! | Wed Jan 17 1990 11:21 | 10 |
| Yeah, but at least we didn't have to hear the Craven Pandering (tm)
of Walsh talking about Kosar exuding Greatness.
The little of the game I saw, Walsh was spuging all over himself
about Elway. I almost puked. If he had done it about Kosar too,
I probably would have needed to go to the Emergency room to have
my stomach pumped....
Yecchh!
Chainsaw
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| 61.43 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | The 49ers. A REPEAT performance. | Wed Jan 17 1990 11:26 | 9 |
| Hey 'Saw Elway did "exude greatness"(Tm) because everytime his team
was in the "red zone"(Tm) they scored, almost. I've read that a high
percentage of red zone(Tm) successes is usually caused by a quarterback
who exudes greatness(Tm). That's probably why the Giants did so poorly
in the red zone(Tm).
/Don
(Tm) Official NFLSpeak terminology
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| 61.44 | | CAM::WAY | Barnes to Rush....he SCORES!!!! | Wed Jan 17 1990 11:38 | 17 |
| Yes, your premises are true oh, great Nostradamus of SPORTS, however,
I objected to the sickening, intestine wrenching, sucking-up that
Walsh was doing.
There was some rumor that he had a date with Elway (John, not Janet)
after the game, but this was unfounded....
Personally, I feel that CravenPandering(tm) is better left to SPORTS
noting, than on National TV.
By the way, RedZone(tm) scoring is not solely up to the Quarterback.
Just as the man who choses the Path of Onan (tm) will never procreate
a baby (or a horse in Elway's case), so will a Quarterback, by himself,
not always score in the RedZone(tm)
Chainsaw
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| 61.45 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Hockey's Human Zamboni | Wed Jan 17 1990 11:49 | 7 |
|
/Don, keep it up next year at Giantsmania you'll get a ticket alright
but it'll be at the top of the place by yourself... ;^)
nice shot sad but true....
gd1
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| 61.46 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | The 49ers. A REPEAT performance. | Wed Jan 17 1990 11:54 | 5 |
| Hey Mike, at least I won't get the JD Ice Tea shower.
Nostradamus(Tm) I like it 'Saw. Much better than that silly ol'
Carnac.
/Don
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| 61.47 | Believe it, or Not.... | CAM::WAY | The Path of Onan brings only blindness | Wed Jan 17 1990 12:31 | 12 |
| /Nostradamus...
The JD Iced Tea showers are a thing of the past. Why, JD doesn't even
spill sushi on anyone at the Sonics games.
The lovely Beth has brought new class and ettiquette into his life,
and has refined his ways from that of a rough-around-the-edges, hard-bitten
Marine Corps Sergeant, to that of an officer and a gentleman....
A truly amazing metamorphosis...
Chainsaw
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| 61.48 | Another letter from the great one... | ROULET::WHITEHAIR | Let it snow! | Fri Mar 30 1990 11:41 | 34 |
|
Bernie still lives.......
Another note from the main man of the Cleveland Browns....
On the front of the letter:
WE'D LIKE TO KNOW:
Would you be interested in
gathering for a home 1990
Browns game? The Bernie Kosar
Fan Club could have their own
section. LET US KNOW...
Inside the newsletter:
Dear (your name inserted here),
Another football season is over and my thoughts are already
on the 1990 season. But before football starts in March, I get
to enjoy one of my favorite sports - Hockey. I try to see as many
games as possible, but I also stay active in charity events during
the off season.
I would also like to thank you for all the support you gave
me and the Browns this season. It turned out to be a very "up
and down" year and I appreciate your sticking by us.
I am very proud of our football team, we overcame alot of
adversity. There were those who wrote us out of the playoff picture
in midseason, but we pulled together as a team and made it to the
A.F.C. Championship game.
(more to come)
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| 61.49 | it's FRIDAY who cares if it snows? | CNTROL::CHILDS | Body built by lost Desire | Fri Mar 30 1990 12:21 | 4 |
|
don't take too long Hal, I'm holding my breath...
mike
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| 61.50 | More from Bernie... | ROULET::WHITEHAIR | Let it snow! | Fri Mar 30 1990 15:46 | 116 |
| CONTINUED.....
Football, as well as most other sports, is a team effort and
some important concepts to remember is to play together as a team
and not give up. You have to believe you can win. Life teaches
us there is no shame in losing, but there is shame when you quit.
The Browns have not quit. For the past five years we have been
in the playoffs and believe me our goal is to go to the Superbowl!
Hope to see you at training camp.
Bernie
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, thats it! Bernie said it best.....The Browns have not quit!
Go to the Superbowl....this is the year!
Anyway, in this newsletter, there are several pictures of Bernie...
Bernie at a United Way event.
Bernie and his father Bernie Sr. at a Converse shoot.
Bernie at a press conference to introduce his Candy Bar. Partial
proceeds went to "Project: Learn."
Bernie talking to the press after a game.
Bernie and long time friend Vinny Testaverde chat before the Tampa
Bay game.
Then.....FAN CLUB FACT: There are now 1800 members in the Bernie
Kosar Fan Club. WOWWW! and I'm #664.
Then......BERNIE FACTS:
HOME: Rocky River, OH - Boca Raton, Florida
BIRTHDAY: November 25, 1963
EDUCATION: University of Miami - Major - Finance, Minor -
Economics, Completed in three years.
PERSONAL: Enjoys playing golf, reading, studies stock market
and is an avid hockey fan.
Then.....more pictures.....
Bernie takes a few minutes to sign autographs.
Bernie with his "trade mark" sunglasses.
Then.....Questions & Answers...
Q. Are the kids on the front of the Fan Club card your children?
Christina Birney, Carrollton, Ohio
A. Dear Christina:
No they are not my children, but they are my friends
Anna, Frano and Gregg.
Q. How old were you when you started playing football?
Have you played other sports?
Jake Gillian, Fairborn, Ohio (Could this be our Jake?)
A. Dear Jake,
I started playing football in the 7th grade for the
Byzantine Catholic Central Knights. I also played
basketball from 5th grade thru 12th. I started to play
Little League Baseball when I was 9 years old.
Q. What kind of grades did you get in school?
Mike Lemaster, Mansfield, Ohio
A. Dear Mike:
I've always taken great pride in my academic
accomplishments because an education is something that
you will always have...No matter what happens. I was
an "A" and "B" student...School was always more important
than anything, including sports.
Q. How did the Browns get the nickname "DAWGS"?
Melissa Cox, Elkton, Ohio
A. Dear Melissa,
The Browns got the nickname "DAWGS" because of Handford
Dixon. He coined the phrase when he barked at the bleacher
section (now known as "The Dawg Pound") to get the fans
cheering for our team.
Then.....on the back of the newsletter.....
An order form for "BERNIE KOSAR FAN CLAB"
Tees and sweat shirts.
(I've got a picture of them.)
One more thing...Sports fans.....Noters.....
If you have any questions for Bernie...write to
B.J.K. Fan Club
P.O. Box 15008
Cleveland, Ohio, 44115
Look for your answer in the newsletter...
But, Noters only......go ahead and write your questions
here and I, personally, will forward them to him and
print the answers right here in this note....
Thats right.....any and all questions will be answered!
I know, Bernie is my personal buddy!
If anyone wants to see the newsletter.....Its at my desk...
HLO1.....I'll be glad to show it to you.
Bernie's #1 fan.........WOOFMAN, Hal
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| 61.51 | You left something out.... | FTMUDG::REED | OklaSt--#29 NCAA Wrestling Championship | Fri Mar 30 1990 16:12 | 23 |
| > Then......BERNIE FACTS:
> HOME: Rocky River, OH - Boca Raton, Florida
> BIRTHDAY: November 25, 1963
> EDUCATION: University of Miami - Major - Finance, Minor -
> Economics, Completed in three years.
> PERSONAL: Enjoys playing golf, reading, studies stock market
> and is an avid hockey fan.
CLOTHING: Prefers white or pink evening dresses to informal
attire, but to unwind, an occasional romp in the grass with buddies
while wearing a simple halter-top is the order of the day, fellathhh.
Hope thhhithhh helpthhhh
Cowboy
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| 61.52 | | COMET::JOHNSTON | namby-pamby bedwetting WHAT?!!? | Fri Mar 30 1990 16:25 | 6 |
| � PERSONAL: Enjoys playing golf, learning to read, sturdy stockings,
� and is a hockey puck.
HMMMPH! I didn't know that!
Mike JN
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| 61.53 | | 7983::RIEU | In search of...Mr Trout! | Mon Apr 02 1990 06:05 | 3 |
| WOW! What a brilliant guy! If he put anymore cliches in that 'news
letter' I'd be ready to launch!
Denny
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| 61.54 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Fahrvergnugen You, Buddy!!! | Mon Apr 02 1990 07:30 | 21 |
| Hal,
You forgot to mention the picture of Bernie and his 2 lifelong idols
and role models
Rock Hudson and Liberace.
All three together started a club known as the NOFP, or National order
of Fudge Packers.
Did he enclose a membership form??????????
Inquiring minds want to know!!!!!!!
JaKe
P.S. No, I'm not the "Jake" in your note. I wouldn't live in Ohio if
it was the last place on earth.
P.P.S. He answered one question wrong, Those kids in the picture
aren't merely "friends", get my drift.
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| 61.55 | Real American Money? | BUILD::MORGAN | | Mon Apr 02 1990 07:33 | 5 |
| Well that's it! If Bernie says they're going to the Super Bowl, order
your tickets now Browns fans! Do you actually pay money for this
information Hal?
Steve
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| 61.56 | From a reliable source... | STRATA::WHITEHAIR | Let it snow! | Thu Apr 05 1990 11:36 | 27 |
|
Official!
Just released out of the USA Today...yesterday...
Bernie Kosar admitts to playing the last
half of last years football season with
injuries...(sholder, arm and hand).
--------------------------------------------------
Man, what a guy he is! To play all those games....
I would have never have known.
--------------------------------------------------
Come on now, I can't believe it...no
questions for Bernie???
one more stat...the Cleveland Dawg Pound made
it to the top 100 quotes.....
They came in at #26.
Look for Bernie to have the best year of his career this season!
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| 61.57 | yawn... | USRCV1::COLOTTIR | I'm Bart Simpson,who the hell are you? | Thu Apr 05 1990 11:50 | 1 |
|
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| 61.58 | | FTMUDG::REED | OklaSt--#29 NCAA Wrestling Championship | Thu Apr 05 1990 11:51 | 18 |
| > Bernie Kosar admitts to playing the last
> half of last years football season with
> injuries...(sholder, arm and hand).
> Come on now, I can't believe it...no
> questions for Bernie???
Yeah, I got one.
Q: How long did it take you to adjust to "whippin it" with your *good*
hand?
It's real nice to have a Direct Line to Bernie hisself
Cowboy
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| 61.59 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Junkfergnoten Extraordinaire | Thu Apr 05 1990 12:02 | 12 |
| >> Bernie Kosar admitts to playing the last
>> half of last years football season with
>> injuries...(sholder, arm and hand).
If hey woulda left his one-eyed oyster launcher along for more than 2
days he woulda healed faster.
JaKe
p.s. B E R N I E S U C K S !!!!!!!
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| 61.60 | | LEVERS::STROUT | 5 to 1... 1 in 5... | Thu Apr 05 1990 12:07 | 5 |
| >> Bernie Kosar admitts to playing the last
>> half of last years football season with
>> injuries...(sholder, arm and hand).
TONY'S BETTR THEN THAT WHIP!!!! HE PLAYED WITH INJURYED BRANE!!
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| 61.61 | | FTMUDG::REED | OklaSt--#29 NCAA Wrestling Championship | Thu Apr 05 1990 12:14 | 4 |
| I still think that Bernie is the best at what he does. He guy can
still scramble in heels and a skirt then toss it to a receiver while
he's whippin it with his good hand. He manages to control all these
muscles at once with an inferior brain.
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| 61.62 | | 7983::RIEU | In search of...Mr Trout! | Thu Apr 05 1990 12:46 | 4 |
| Anyone who played as hurt as Bernice claimed to be, hurts his team
more than helps it. What's he have an incentive clause for games
played?
Denny
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| 61.63 | commercial potential | MSBIS2::ROBINSON | mannish boy | Thu Apr 05 1990 12:50 | 4 |
| Denny, I believe the incentives are with the L'eggs company
and some women's shoestores...
Jeff
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| 61.64 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Junkfergnoten Extraordinaire | Thu Apr 05 1990 14:28 | 10 |
| Bernie stated that he still plays hurt 'cause he loves the groping that
goes on when he gets sacked. That is the groping he can do. He also
stated that he despises the shotgun formation because he can't tickle
the center's filberts before each play. He loves football cause he can
tickle some other guys filberts without having to buy him a couple of
drinks first.
JaKe
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| 61.65 | roooooooolllllwwaaaaaard ! | EARRTH::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Thu Apr 05 1990 16:08 | 1 |
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| 61.66 | Bernie Knows 'Touch' Football ... | EARRTH::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Thu Apr 05 1990 16:09 | 7 |
| re .64
JaKe, Bernie also liks to slap those linemen on their big cheesey
butts too ....
That probably why ole Fudge doesn't like to scramble - he likes
getting sacked.
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| 61.67 | | FTMUDG::REED | OklaSt--#29 NCAA Wrestling Championship | Thu Apr 05 1990 16:17 | 12 |
| > JaKe, Bernie also liks to slap those linemen on their big cheesey
> butts too ....
JaKe, Bernie also liks to slap those linemen on their big
<< smegma-clad >> butts too ....
let's be more technically correct....
hop'n dis heps
Cowboy
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| 61.68 | Bernie Kosar | RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO | G.H.C.C - Home of the Chokers! | Thu Apr 05 1990 18:08 | 22 |
| I've held out long enough. I'm a Bernie Kosar fan. He's a very
good quarterback - ungainly because of his build, but nontheless
a fine NFL quarterback. And yes, it was *obvious*, painfully so,
that Bernie was hurting this year - he probably should have been
shelved for the year, but he is a very competitive person, and a
team LEADER.
He's a guy who got his degree *early*, with a good GPA - he fulfilled
his dream of playing for the team he grew up with, and prior to
this year's injury-riddled season, was a high accurate player, able
to improvise, and kept turnovers to a minimum. Compared to many
of the other overly hyped QB's, Bernie Kosar was underrated.
As for the childish 'dress wearing' stuff - it is childish, and
if any of you have seen Bernie's fiance/wife/girlfriend (I forget
which she is), I'd gladly don a skirt to be with her. A Marina-type
if I ever saw one.
If some of the prima donna QB's in the NFL had Bernie's guts, maybe
they'd play in pain, instead of sitting out with hang nails.
JD
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| 61.69 | | FTMUDG::REED | OklaSt--#29 NCAA Wrestling Championship | Thu Apr 05 1990 18:18 | 7 |
| > As for the childish 'dress wearing' stuff - it is childish, and
> if any of you have seen Bernie's fiance/wife/girlfriend (I forget
> which she is), I'd gladly don a skirt to be with her. A Marina-type
> if I ever saw one.
I wouldn't even /Don a skirt for Dolly.
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| 61.70 | Hey Dan, what does /Don think about Bernie's skirt? :-) | SASE::SZABO | Have you had your fahrvergn�gen today? | Fri Apr 06 1990 08:11 | 1 |
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| 61.71 | The trufe about Berni(c)e | PFSVAX::JACOB | Real Men don't use Aluminum | Fri Apr 06 1990 08:38 | 17 |
| >>As for the childish 'dress wearing' stuff - it is childish, and
>>if any of you have seen Bernie's fiance/wife/girlfriend (I forget
>>which she is), I'd gladly don a skirt to be with her. A Marina-type
>>if I ever saw one.
Which only shows to go ya what even Bernie, winner of this years
"NFL's prettiest Dress" competition, can get if he spends enuf money.
He only goes after her because she shares her wardrobe with him.
Re <<smegma-clad>> Rooooooooooolward
JaKe
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| 61.72 | Kosar loses points in my book. | SHALOT::MEDVID | he buys love to sell tomorrow | Fri Apr 06 1990 14:19 | 15 |
| > If some of the prima donna QB's in the NFL had Bernie's guts, maybe
> they'd play in pain, instead of sitting out with hang nails.
Wrong. If Bernie had the basic intelligence to know when an injury to one
man is hurting the whole team like most of the QBs in the NFL, he'd
have sat himself on the bench.
Playing hurt is OK, unless such pride and competitiveness get in the way
of TEAM goals.
I used to like Kosar myself, but after he pulled this "I'll play hurt
no matter what happens to my team" stuff, I've lost a lot of respect
for him.
--dan'l
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| 61.73 | Only the truth! | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | Bernie replies | Sat Apr 07 1990 09:43 | 8 |
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Dear Cowboy,
What do you mean? I've always let you do it for me.
Bernie Kosar #19
P.S. I love it when you put that red lipstick on!
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| 61.74 | Browns are Superbowl Bound! | LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR | Don't just sit there.......Do it now! | Sat Apr 07 1990 09:55 | 18 |
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Re: Dan'l
I really don't think you know how complicated the
Browns offense is. Even with Bernie's arm problem he was still
the best QB for the job. Bernie makes so many changes at the
line, his backup could never handle it. Remember??? The year
before......
You surely can't blame him for not wanting to come
out of the game.....if anything.....blame it on the rain! :-)
Re: Jake
Hey Man, I saw that! I was just about ready to
go off the deep end too. Lucky you had it changed!!!
WOOF!
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| 61.75 | Kosar's "good", not "god" | SHALOT::MEDVID | Rita Hayworth gave good face | Mon Apr 09 1990 15:23 | 19 |
| RE: .74
You get no lash back from me when you say Kosar is the best at calling
changes at the line ("audiblizing" the announcers call it...should be
audibling, no?). This is big coming from a Steeler fan. Kosar is
good at so many things.
But his (paraphrased) comment was that "there is no doubt" his injury
"limited/hurt is passing abilities." I'd take a healthy second
stringer over an injured first stringer any day. No matter how good
Kosar is at reading defenses, calling audibles, finding the open man,
etc. it just don't matter if he can't get the ball on target. To me,
that's like having George Patton command the Antarctic Army...lot's of
smarts and leadership, but no guns to get the job done.
As far as the Browns offense being so complicated...doesn't the second
string quarterback have a playbook?
--dan'l
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| 61.76 | Cleveland just picked up a new backup today. | ROULET::WHITEHAIR | Don't just sit there.......Do it now! | Tue Apr 10 1990 06:45 | 11 |
|
Dan'l,
Well, Clevelands 2nd string QB is really much more
inconsistant that even a hurt Bernie. As I mentioned before...
just take a look at the year before when Bernie was out...
Really, the only thing that wasn't inconsistant that year
was the Dawgs.
Woof!
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| 61.77 | | EARRTH::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Tue Apr 10 1990 08:31 | 9 |
| Gee LiteLocks, it seems to me that Bagel and Stork did pretty well
when Bernie ran out of K-Y over the last two years ....
And as far as audbilizing, Warren Moon has to do more of it than
any QB in the league (due to Glanville), and consecutive trips to
the Pro Bowl proves that he, not Bernie is the best at play-calling
at the line.
Dr00:00
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| 61.78 | The best is yet to come! | ROULET::WHITEHAIR | Don't just sit there.......Do it now! | Tue Apr 10 1990 09:20 | 13 |
|
Hey Zero!
Pagle certainly had quite abit of a consistancy problem...he
can't throw the long ball.
When Moon audbilizes....he does it, not for the team, but, for
himself. Moon is not very accurate at all!
The Browns have picked up a new backup....I think his name is
Gram or something like that.
Woof!
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| 61.79 | | EARRTH::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Tue Apr 10 1990 09:44 | 8 |
| Moon is not very accurate at all ?
Look SilverSheen, Moon ahs ranked 2nd and 3rd in the AFC in passing
efficiency the last two years. Lasted year, Moon smoked NFl defenses
at about a 60.0% clip.
Yo Inspector Hendry (of the Ap'stph'e Police), could you set this
lost soul straight ?
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| 61.80 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN | Tue Apr 10 1990 10:02 | 8 |
|
DrPuny_human,
Warren Moon v.s. the Browns... post those stats why don't you?
Winning percentage well below .500, interceptions outnumber
TDs 2:1. Moon is a GOON, so is Toon! Spoon (nick weather...)
jumped over the (wimpy) Moon. Moon will soon eat prune!
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| 61.81 | Moon's 1988 dastistics | STAR::YANKOWSKAS | Sam Horn: 1990 AL MVP | Tue Apr 10 1990 10:02 | 9 |
| re Doc:
Moon was 3rd in the AFC in the quarterback ratings in 1988, with 88.4
rating points and 54.4% completions. Don't have his 1989 numbers
handy.
Paul (with a 1989 Sporting News Pro Football Yearbook in his desk
drawer)
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| 61.82 | | FSHQA2::JHENDRY | John Hendry, DTN 292-2170 | Tue Apr 10 1990 10:09 | 4 |
| I have the 1989 numbers at home and will post them tonight or tomorrow.
I unfortunately don't have team-by-team stats for individuals.
John
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| 61.83 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN | Tue Apr 10 1990 10:26 | 7 |
|
John, I don't need the exact numbers. I know quite well that Moon
has played very poorly against the Browns over his career. They
post the stats everytime the Browns play the Oilers... the announcers
also comment on how Felix Wright has "owned" Warren Moon both in the
CFL and the NFL.
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| 61.84 | All-Pro | MSBIS2::ROBINSON | mannish boy | Tue Apr 10 1990 10:32 | 8 |
| .81
Moon had an even better QB rating last year for most of the season.
Warren and Jim Kelly were the only QB's in the AFC that I can recall
being over 90% for most of the year. I think Moon slipped a little
under 90 towards the end.
Jeff
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| 61.85 | FACK attack from Vacumn Brains ... | EARRTH::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Tue Apr 10 1990 10:39 | 8 |
| .83
Still hallucinating eh Paul ? Felix "Dime and Loose Change Back"
Write, owning Moon ? HAHAHAHAHHA !!!!
Tell me, how many yards and Td's did the Browns 'hold' Moon too
in their last game ?
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| 61.86 | The important question is... | 7983::RIEU | In search of...Mr Trout! | Tue Apr 10 1990 10:57 | 2 |
| Who won that game Dock?
Denny
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| 61.87 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN | Tue Apr 10 1990 11:14 | 6 |
|
DrDirtBrain... to my best recollection, moon is 3-10 possibly 3-11
lifetime v.s. the Browns with something like 25 INTS and 13 TDs.
Get a life, and a brain! And live a little before April 19th,
when you will be humiliated on the court... 5'5" HA HA HA!
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| 61.88 | | EARRTH::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Tue Apr 10 1990 12:26 | 3 |
| MOANowski fact watch :
Day 110 and counting .....
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| 61.89 | | 7983::RIEU | In search of...Mr Trout! | Tue Apr 10 1990 12:31 | 3 |
| re:fact watch
Are you saying his Moon numbers are not facts?
Denny
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| 61.90 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN | Tue Apr 10 1990 12:33 | 8 |
|
FACK!
AVG TAB OAB H R RBI OP OB% SAC BB
Brooks .076 15 13 1 2 3 6 20.0 0 2
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| 61.91 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | Dockers...Pants for |CENSORED|s | Tue Apr 10 1990 12:38 | 4 |
| .076... That's the spirit. Quite a ways from the Mendoza line
though.
/Don
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| 61.92 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN | Tue Apr 10 1990 12:46 | 6 |
|
re: .91
But it doesn't include the official number of wiffs... believed to
be 7 or 8 times in 15 plate appearances. I'm waiting for the
official number.
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| 61.93 | | UPWARD::HEISER | from the trendoid vortex of America | Tue Apr 10 1990 13:07 | 5 |
| It never ceases to amaze me how someone could WHIF in softball!
Doc, those are numbers that Mark Belanger would be proud of!
Mike
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| 61.94 | Fact, Groanowski = [(MrT-class) *Bernie]fudge-compression ratio | FRSBEE::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Tue Apr 10 1990 13:57 | 12 |
|
Like I said Denny, FACTs, which are objective and free of malice.
As opposed to FACKS, which are a different story of course.
And if I stooped to the fudge-packing levels of Madam Gronowski,
I'd mention his Maynard ERA, not to mention his Cleveland-like choke
jobs in the clutch.... but why bother ?
Be there on the 19th, and he'll show the world what the rest of
us know ....
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| 61.95 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN | Tue Apr 10 1990 14:04 | 6 |
|
DrDirtBrain... why don't you clear up the FACTs for us... what is
Warren (HALF) Moon's record against the Browns.
DrDirtBrain, not good enough for Maynard A of Marlboro B... where
next? Jr High girls team?
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| 61.96 | | FRSBEE::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Tue Apr 10 1990 14:08 | 23 |
| BTW Denny, when is the last time that this guy has entered anything
factual in SPORTS ?
take a look at the output today for Porn-owksi, it's typical :
- Doug Williams bash
- Midnight Bash
- Moon bash
- Lakers bash
- RedSox/Clements Bash
ect ect ect
Simply put, this guy NEVERS discusses anything substantive.
It could be due to the FACT that he knows as much about SPORTS as
Bo does about hockey .....
Doc
p.s. Paula, until you take your tired, wimpy butt back on the football
field, instead of whining - you've nothing to say ...
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| 61.97 | | FRSBEE::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Tue Apr 10 1990 14:11 | 15 |
| DrDirtBrain ? my but aren't we getting childish ?
Okay, I'll decend for a second, before the stench overwhelms me....
Tell me, when are you ever going to be good enough to play Hudson
A league ? Or are you afraid of being the 12th man ?
And why don't you clear up the FACTS about you being so afraid of
playing ball, eh Steve Largent ?
It doesn't have anything to do with your nickname of 'Footsteps'
does it ?
HAHHAHAHAHAHA !
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| 61.98 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN | Tue Apr 10 1990 14:28 | 32 |
|
You're not talking hoop league, are you? The same hoop
league that you rode pine in A and dropped down to B?
I played in A and got solid PT, ask Newc.
Get is straight pal...
- Warren Moon is a losing QB v.s. the Browns FACT!
- Doug Williams is a losing QB overall, lifetime record. He
couldn't win with the 'skins... the skins put together a
decent 6 game win streak without him last year. FACT.
- You are the biggest bandwagon jumper in the history of the
SPORTS notesfile... FACT
- FACT:
AVG TAB OAB H R RBI OP OB% SAC BB
Brooks .076 15 13 1 2 3 6 20.0 0 2
- FACT:
From: LUNER::BROOKS "You can beat him man - if you hit him with a bat !" 14-MAR-1990 15:30:37.17
To: ROCK::GRONOWSKI
CC: BROOKS
Subj: RE: yawn
I guess I should beg you for forgiveness ......
DO I get a 4 point handicap ?
**************************************************
Did I forget anything...?
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| 61.99 | I've seen the light ... | FRSBEE::BROOKS | Sucker that stole the soul ... | Tue Apr 10 1990 14:41 | 27 |
| Yawn, and double-yawn ...
Hey guy, you know something ?
Despite the fact that you've been blown out of the water, despite
the Cads, the Puns, and yourself ....
You've won !
Plain and simple, you are the FACTmaster of SPORTS. I've never stood
a chance - ever. The Brownies are great, the Cavs are great.
Hey Paul, you are great ! You'll plaster me in 1-1, please give
me a 10 point handicap !
You'll reduce me to the level of soap scum in any sport of your
choosing ! Your superior grasp of facts leaves me breathless in
awe, amazement, and wonder.
I guess I'm tired of the charade, champ. I abdicate to you.
Paul Eunich Gronowski, I salute you.
DrM
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| 61.100 | | FRSBEE::BROOKS | Bo,Jordan,Hendry,Shakespere,Gronowski | Tue Apr 10 1990 14:43 | 1 |
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| 61.101 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | JunkFergNotener | Tue Apr 10 1990 15:18 | 25 |
| Fakt:
Berni(c)e and the Brown(spot)s need Linda Lovelace and their team
'cause when they get to a big one, THEY CHOKE!!!!!!!!!
Hey Moan-Groan-blownoutski:
I seem to remember back , oh, 25 or so replies, that
Midracingstripintheshorts original statements were something about Moon
"over Parador" being better at audibling than Bernie "and the Jerksand
didn't say anything about Moon owning the Brown(spot)s. Have you ever
given a straight answer and not tried to turn everything around to fit
stats that were in your favor?????
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZ!!!
get a life
Have a peachy day!!
JaKe
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| 61.102 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN | Tue Apr 10 1990 15:28 | 4 |
|
Mr Bowling Pin Man, Brister is the worst QB in the AFC Central.
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| 61.103 | | FRSBEE::BROOKS | Bo,Jordan,Hendry,Shakespere,Gronowski | Tue Apr 10 1990 15:40 | 4 |
| Brister had a better season than Kosar, oh Wise One Without Peer.
Brister lead his team to the playoffs - Kosar held his back with
some Grono- I meean, some el stinko performances in the playoffs.
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| 61.104 | | FSHQA1::JHENDRY | John Hendry, DTN 292-2170 | Tue Apr 10 1990 19:20 | 23 |
| in 1989, Moon was the 2nd rated QB in the AFC with 88.9 rating
points, Kosar was 4th at 80.3. Bernie had more attempts and more
completions, Moon had a higher percentage, more yards, higher average
yards, more TDs and lost more yards on sacks. They both threw the
same number of interceptions.
In 1988, they were virtually even. In 1987 and 1986, Kosar was
way ahead of Moon. They were very even in 1985.
Going into the 1989 season, Kosar was the 4th leading active passer
and Moon was 10th. While Moon had a better 1989, it wasn't good
enough to change the relative positions very much. I didn't figure
it out exactly, but Moon's 1989 wasn't that much better than Kosar's.
Moon is 7 years older than Kosar, has only played one more NFL season
and was handicapped by a poorer team in the early years of his career.
I think Kosar is going to end up with a better overall NFL career
than Moon will. This also shows some of the fallacy of trying to
compare two individuals on a different team because unlike baseball,
so much more of the variation in individual performances is due
to the team.
John
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| 61.105 | BOOMER IS BEST IN THE AFC | EAYV01::ATHOMSON | The Bengal Lancer | Thu Apr 19 1990 04:59 | 8 |
|
Hey Guys why are you discusing two second rate Quarterbacks.Boomer
Esiason is far superior to Moon and Kosar.His stats over the last
four years prove that beyond a doubt.Esiason is easily the best
quarterback in the AFC today a probably second only to Montana in
the NFL.He will lead the mighty Bengals to the Superbowl this coming
season.
BENGALS FOR THE BOWL.
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| 61.106 | | CAM::WAY | Will you yield, and this avoid? | Thu Apr 19 1990 07:37 | 3 |
| Boomer wears a dress too, just like Bernie. Only they won't let
Boomer suck the farts out of the airline seats, or show his ankles
in public because in Cincinnati that would be deemed obscene...
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| 61.107 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | JunkFergNotener | Thu Apr 19 1990 07:50 | 6 |
| Ah sh@t, Boomer throws the little dump pass more than anything else.
My 7 year old daughter could have the same stats throwing the wimp
pass, too!!!!
JaKe
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| 61.108 | | IAMOK::AHEARN | Rams vs. Bengals in SB XXV | Thu Apr 19 1990 10:35 | 15 |
| re: .107,
If the little dump pass is so easy...and allows for an impressive
completion percentage (while requiring little talent), why doesn't
every NFL team employ that strategy? I know not everyone is impressed
with stats, but you have to admit that it's better to have a pass find
its way to one of your teammates hands than find itsself on the
ground!!
And, before anyone says that the short gain achieved may be no better
than an incompletion....note that Esiason has had one of the highest
yards per ATTEMPT in the NFL over the past three years.
Nelly
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| 61.109 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | A. Bunker, George (Wallace, Brooks) | Thu Apr 19 1990 12:19 | 3 |
|
The bottom line is Wins and Losses... what is Baby Boomer's (tm)
W/L record as a starter?
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| 61.110 | | CAM::WAY | Chainsaw, The Great Corruptor | Thu Apr 19 1990 12:40 | 1 |
| The only good thing about Boomer is that he's a lefty!
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| 61.111 | BENGALS RAMS SB XXV | EAYV01::ATHOMSON | The Bengal Lancer | Fri Apr 20 1990 06:33 | 7 |
| re 108
Thanks for the support.You obviously know a good Quarterback when
you see one.Pity about Groanowski and Co.Hope your prediction about
the SUPERBOWL comes true am sure it would be a great game.Bengals
would take it i hope.
BERNIE IS A WIMP
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