Conference 7.286::sports_90

    
    Jesse, you can't enter anything in here until you go to the crow
    note.  Where have you been all week?  8^)
    
    Bruce

    
    The game between them and the 49'ers was fixed. It had to be.

    
    It was fixed, all right.  It was fixed the minute the Rams found
    out it was an important game for them to win.  They then did their
    standard choke.  8^)

     re .1 I was in the Crow note bright and early on Tuesday. 

    
    I apologize.  I must have missed it.  Just hadn't seen your name
    much lately. 
    
    Bruce

    
    The 49er's were favored by 3. What did they win by? 3. Alot of people
    made out that night.
    
    The Rams thoroughly kicked 49er butt in the first half. What happened?

    re: Cook
    
    See, the game was fixed from the over/under standpoint as well.  LA, at
    the end of the half, said "Oh my gosh, this game could go over.  We
    better stop." 
    
    The Rams bet on the under, you see.  8-)
    
    jab (Who felt that some games this season were fixed.  Remember the
    Rams-Bills game??)

    
    Anyone looking at Montana's record in Anaheim knew the game wasn't
    over at the half.  Heck, even with the refs calling things LA's
    way the 49ers still won.  Word is tha the Rams lockerroom was
    incredibly sullen after the game, even moreso than anyone expected.
    This game may be the beginning of the end for them.
    
    Bruce

       Pete, If you really believe that game was fixed, you obviously
    haven't watched Joe Montana much.
                                         Denny

    Rams 38
    Jests 14
    
    Bell gets 154 yds rushing and 2 td's 
    Everett 22-41 381 yds 2 tds, one to Ellard and one to Flipper.
    Oh yea, Delpino will get the other td.
    
    take it to the bank
    the devil dog

    
    Everett gets hospitalized, Rams lose final 2 since they have no
    other real players, and the rams don't make the wild card playoff.
    end of season.  :)

re -1    Whatcha 'bin smok'in 
    

    re .9 & .12   Sounds good to me.
    
    Seriously, after a team loses a big game, they very often come back
    flat and off their game. When a team loses a big game that they
    had, and blew it, they either come back with a vengence or roll
    over and die. I think they will take the Jets too lightly, they
    will probably still win the game, but maybe not until the fourth
    quarter, coming from behind.
    
                             Steve J.

   >	<<< Note 47.11 by CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ "The DevilDog Will Hunt You Down" >>>

   >	 Rams 38
   >	 Jests 14
    
    Good call Devil Dog!!!
    
    
    py

    
    	Anyone going to see the last Pats game this weekend? I can't wait!
    	I can finally see the Rams in Sullivan!!
    
    	/prc

    
    Good luck getting tickets.  It's sold out isn't it? :-)
    
    -Dick

    
    re .17
    
    I'm not at liberty to discuss the matter...8-)

       If it's as cold as the last couple were, I might just skip this
    one!
                                    Denny

    
    Last I heard, Denny, was that the temps would not go much above
    the teens.  Looks like the attendance might not go much above the
    teens, either.
    
    -Dick
    

       That's what I heard too Dick. We've had 2 or 3 brutal weather
    games in a row, hardly seems worth it to go again.
       BTW, too bad the Pats can't play better than teens!
                                     Denny

    Rams 24
    Patsies  0
    
    Everett to Anderson for one score
    Bell 4 yd run for another
    Delpino 2 yd run for another
    Lansford 38 yd fg for the other.

    	
    	a *good* nfc team lose to a *bad* afc team?  it's almost
    exponentially infeasible  :)
    
    sean
    

    Well, if you are in New England this week and weekend feeling the
    incredible chill you will know anything can happen.  
    
    A worried Everett fan.

    ...especially when the Patriots are playing a game that on paper they
    should lose.  
    
    
    py

    The only way thepatsies will upset the Rams is if the lights in the Ram
    dressing room didn't work. I'd even be upset by that. Football-wise
    they don't have a prayer.

      When Chicago were playing tough, the Patriots beat them at New
    England. (can't remember the year). Just my prediction. Besides
    I like underdogs. Spoilers have more fun than teams playing for
    playoff spot. 
    
    Ric

Well, here's what will happen.

Wilson will go down with a broken leg.  Grogan hemerhoids will flare
up and he won't be able to play.  So then, they'll call for Flutie,
but he'll be so cold that he'll shrink (all little things shrink
in cold like this) and at 4'5" he'll be ineffective.

So, that manly son of the Patsies Owners Vic Kiam will come in.  How
do I know Kiam's son is manly?  Well, with a girly-mon name like
"Tory", he's got to be manly or by this time he'd be dead.

So, he comes in, scores 4 TDs, to push the patsies past the rams.
Berry gets mad and benches him, because Berry has big bucks riding
on the Rams....

Kaim finds out, fires Berry, assumes the coaching role, make his
kid the starter, and starts handing out complimentary razors to all
season ticket holders...

You heard it hear first.
Chainsaw

    re: free razors to season ticket holders
       Figgers! I don't use em!
                                    Denny

    I like the Patsies in this game.....   The Rams just can't
    play cold weather ball, period !!  
    
    
    Big Game

    Re:.29
    Wilson will not start anyway because of a broken finger or something
    like that.
    
    Charles

    Jack they're not playing cold-weather ball, they're playing football.
    ;^)
    

                   <*** One down, three to go!!! ***>
    
    Good win for the Rams against the Iggles. The "D" was tough, keeping RC
    in check most of the game. The "O" looked good in spots, but still has
    a few things to hone. Everett was good, as was Bell. Slater was awesome
    keeping White out. Look for a big win over the Jints this week. I think
    the Rams are ready to kick some hind-quarters!!!
    
    
    the devil dog

    
    Good game by the Rams, who were helped out by relatively mild weather.
    Hope a nice big cold front moves in.  Is the game Saturday or Sunday?
    
    Bruce

Sunday at 12:30 pm EST
    
    sean

    Sounds like the weather in the east (here in Boston) is warming up and
    may be up in the 40s/50s by Thursday.  I have not heard any extended
    forecast going into the weekend though.
    
    But the Rams have played 3 consecutive games on the East Coast now.
    They won in the Meadowlands in a blowout over the Jets in cold weather,
    then beat the Patriots in a close game in frigid conditions, then last
    week beat the Eagles handily in milder but still cold weather in the 
    30s and raining.  So unless there is a snow storm or a hail storm in
    New Jersey by Sunday, which is unlikely, they should not see anything, 
    weather-wise, they had not seen in recent weeks.  Their performances in
    recent weeks, despite two of those opponents are lowly Jets and Pats, 
    should go a long way in changing their reputation as a warm-weather
    team.
    
    Charles

    Small nit - the Rams game against the Jets was in Anaheim, not East
    Rutherford.
    
    John

    
    The last cold weather game the Rams played they barely beat a very
    weak NE team.  I wouldn't say any doubts about their cold weather
    play have been removed.
    
    Bruce
    
    

    The Rams will win. 
    That's a FACK!!

    Re:.38
    I stand corrected.
    
    Re:.39
    So now cold rain in the 30s is not cold enough.  I am not saying
    winning one game or even two can remove all of whatever doubts.  But I
    just think that the game at the Vet was a cold weather game as well.
    
    Charles

    My paper said temperatures at the Vet were in the 40's.

    I was on the road at that time and the radio guy said it was in the
    30s.  I would not be surprised to know that by the end of the game it
    warmed up to the 40s though.
    
    Enough of those nit now :)
    
    Charles

    
    Charles, in .35 I said that I wouldn't consider the Rams game a
    cold weather game.  I live in SF and that's the kind of weather
    we have here year round.  Now, 10� with 20 mph winds would be cold.
    I believe that game was probably played in weather much above the
    average for a December in Philly.
    
    Bruce
    

    Devil Dog,
    
     You forgot the (tm) after FACK(tm) that cost ya in court big guy!
    
    Big Game

There's some action going on to get the Raiders back to Oakland soon.  Oakland
officials have been meeting with the Raiders front office for some time now,
and a meeting with Al Davis is in the works.

L.A. Coliseum folks are nervous and are trying to get the Raiders to stay.
No big news here, but now the Coliseum officials are talking to the RAMS
to get them to move back.  Seems that the Rams are pissed at the Anaheim
Stadium because of improvements in the parking lots, or something to that
effect.

Bay area is really a two-football-team, one-baseball-team town.  L.A. is 
just the opposite.  Hope it ends up that way.

AAA

    
    Thanks for the info, AAA. On ESPN's Sportscenter last night they
    mentioned the rumor that the Coliseum might be torn down and a new
    stadium built to try to keep the RAIDERS there. I find it hard to 
    believe that they would tear down the Coliseum.

re: AAA

How much $$$$ did they offer Uncle AL this time??  Thought I heard something
like $60 Mil... If so that means that he would collect about $100 Mil if
the team stays from the commission..... He does have another year on the 
contract in L.A.

Monty

    I heard that the Coliseum was considered a landmark, and they couldn't
    tear it down.

    Jim Everett was signed to a 6-year contract estimated at $15 million. 
    He would to become a free agent on February 1 if he has not signed by
    then.  He became the highest paid player in Rams history.

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Subject: Rams sign Curt Warner
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	ANAHEIM, Calif. (UPI) -- Curt Warner, the most prolific runner in
Seattle Seahawks' history, Friday signed as a Plan B free agent with the
Los Angeles Rams.
	Warner, 29, has run for 6,705 yards and 55 touchdowns in his
seven-year NFL career. He has gained at least 1,000 yards in four of his
six full seasons,  including a career-best 1,481 yards in 1986.
	Warner, though, has a history of knee problems. Last year, the
three-time Pro Bowler managed only 631 yards -- a career-low -- while
averaging just 3.3 yards per carry.
	The Rams, with Greg Bell receiving most of the work at tailback,
finished fourth in the NFL in offense last year but only 13th rushing.
	Rams coach John Robinson said he just wanted to enjoy the addition
of Warner to an already long list of tailbacks.
	``I think he's a great back, and I think he can be again,''
Robinson told the Los Angeles Times. ``In terms of production, he's a
championship type of player both as a runner and receiver. I think he
can make a big difference for us.''
	Warner, 5-foot-11 and 205 pounds, has rushed for 100 yards or more
in 23 games. He ranks fifth on the club's alltime reception list with
193 for 1,467 yards and seven touchdowns, and is the only Seattle player
ever to run for 1,000 yards in a season.
	``It's going to be a great loss to our team,'' Seattle quarterback
Dave Krieg said.
	Warner, who returned from a serious knee injury suffered in the
1984 season-opener, was a first-round draft choice by the Seahawks in
1983 out of Penn State. He set 41 records with the Nittany Lions.
	Warner became an unconditional free agent in February when he was
left unprotected by Seattle. He reportedly earned $1.1 million last
season and is believed to have taken a pay cut to pay with Los Angeles.

    I read that the Seahawks put him on Plan B and hoped no one would want
    to pick up his contract.  Guess again.  Look for a Warner rebirth in
    LA; the natural turf will be the key.  
    
    	--dan'l

    Let's hope he returns to form in L.A. 
    
    

    
    Typical Robinson move,  needs help on defense, so he signs another
    tailback.
    
    Bruce

    I saw Warner all lasted year with the Hawks.  He's lost a step,
    but, the Rams o-line is much better than the Hawks, so that should
    help.  However, how will Curt work out on natural turf, as compared
    tothe carpet in the Dome.  One thing - he is a good pass receiver.
    
    JD

>            <<< Note 47.53 by CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ "C'mon Duke!!!" >>>
    
    Hey Jess, how'd Duke do last night?

    RE: .55
    
    Warner played four years at Happy Valley on natural turf.  That's when
    he was at his best.  I think he can return to form unless his knee is
    just too far gone.
    
    	--dan'l

    I hope Curt does well, he was one of my favs at Penn State.  I do
    know he looked slow and tentative out there this year.  Of course,
    I can't like him too much now that he's on the Rams.  
    
    JD

(From Clarinews)

Subject: Rams make Brostek No. 1

	ANAHEIM, Calif. (UPI) -- The Los Angeles Rams, seeking reserve help
for their aging offensive line, Sunday selected center/guard Bern
Brostek from the University of Washington with the 23rd pick in the NFL
draft.
	Brostek, 6-foot-2 and 300 pounds, was the second offensive lineman
taken in the draft (after No. 9 pick Richmond Webb). The Rams made the
move despite the fact the native Hawaiian failed several NFL physicals
because of a back condition.
	Asked what his medical staff had told him about Brostek's back,
Coach John Robinson quipped: ``That it's a big one.
	``He hasn't missed a day of practice, I don't think, in two years.
He may have a bad back but it's usually at night or in the morning. In
the afternoon (when games are usually played) it's fine.''
	A three-year starter with the Huskies, Brostek said from Oahu,
Hawaii, that the bottom two or three discs in his back have been
defective since birth. But he indicated they have never caused him a
problem, and added he receives no special treatment for the condition.
	``I was wondering why (he failed the physicals),'' said Brostek,
named the Pacific-10's top lineman last year. ``I guess some of the
X-rays blew their minds.''
	With its second pick -- the 24th in the second round and 49th
overall -- Los Angeles chose defensive back Pat Terrell of Notre Dame.
	The Rams have sported some of the league's top offensive lines the
last 10 years or so, but their current edition is growing old. Tackle
Jackie Slater will be 36 in May, tackle Irv Pankey is 32 and center Doug
Smith is 33.
	Brostek should learn from them -- as well as Pro Bowl guard Tom
Newberry -- and won't be pushed into a starting berth this season.
Robinson expects him to play center and guard.
	``He will play both this year,'' the coach said. ``He's certainly
not going to take Doug Smith's job until (Smith) retires or because of
age becomes a part-time player. Doug was a Pro Bowl player this year.''
	Brostek, who prefers playing center, worked out for Hudson Houck in
Hawaii last Tuesday, and the Los Angeles offensive line coach liked what
he saw.
	``He's got good size, speed and movement, but the bottom line is he
loves to play the game,'' Houck said. ``He's not a mystery, or a player
we're going on potential. He can play football.''
	Brostek, who has run 40 yards in 5.31 seconds, loves the fact he'll
be playing in the Los Angeles area. During Washington's trip to the
Freedom Bowl last December, he enjoyed body-surfing in nearby Huntington
Beach.
	``I'm excited to be where the sunshine is,'' he said. ``I'm glad it
wasn't Green Bay.''
	Terrell had five interceptions as a free safety with the Fighting
Irish last year but could see time at cornerback with the Rams. Los
Angeles recently released veteran LeRoy Irvin and is planning to shift
All-Pro corner Jerry Gray to safety.
	The Rams announced late Sunday they had traded their fifth round
pick (134th overall) to the Jets for cornerback Bobby Humphery.

(From Clarinews)

Subject: Berry joins Duck alumni with Rams
 
	EUGENE, Ore. (UPI) -- The Los Angeles Rams have added a third
University of Oregon football alumnus to their defensive backfield.
	The Rams chose Latin Berry of Milwaukie in the third round of
Sunday's National Football League draft and told him he will play on
defense -- not as a running back, the position he played throughout his
career.
	``He was too good an athlete to pass up,'' said Gil Haskell, the
Rams' running back coach. ``We're not sure what secondary position he'll
play, but our scouts rave about him. We'll give Berry the opportunity to
return kicks and play defense.''
	The Rams already have Duck defensive backs Anthony Newman and
Clifford Hicks, although Hicks is recovering from a knee injury.
	``I cannot wait to get there,'' said Berry, who wanted to stay on
the West Coast. ``This is great.''
	Berry, the 78th player chosen, gained more than 1,500 yards in the
three seasons he started at fullback for the Ducks, also playing at
tailback. He played offensive and defensive back at Milwaukie High
School but was more effective on offense.
	``I am perfectly willing and able'' to play defense, said Berry,
who also is the reigning Pac-10 long jump champion and a two-time champ
in the long and triple jumps.
	Meanwhile, Duck cornerback Chris Oldham was drafted in the fourth
round and 105th overall by the Detroit Lions. Oregon State fullback Pat
Chaffey went to the Chicago Bears in the fifth round as pick No. 117.

Chuck Long was traded from the Detroit Lions to the Los Angeles Rams for 
undisclosed draft choice(s).  
 
A reunion of two Big Ten quarterbacks who graduated at the same time and
were the two highest quarterbacks taken in the 85 (?) draft, Jim Everett
of Purdue and Long of Iowa.  Too bad that will mean Mark Herrmann, Ever-
ett's pre-predecessor at Purdue will likely be gone next year for the 
Rams.
 
Charles
 

    
    Why Chuck Long? Will Long want to be a no-play back up?

�    Why Chuck Long? 

To advance the ball quickly downfield, hopefully catching the defenders
by surprise....

Next question.

    >  Why Chuck Long?
    
    
    He could be made into a competent backup. Hopefully he'll end up like
    Steve Young, contributing when called upon.

    Seems like Ernie Zempesie (sp?) likes Chuck Long since he was coming
    out of college.  He wanted to draft him (but was beaten by the Lions)
    for San Diego to succeed Dan Fouts.  Long and Everett are very similar
    type of quarterbacks, so it is not surprising that Zempesie likes Long.
    
    Charles

(From Clarinews)

Subject: Bell to skip minicamp, could be on way out
Date: 18 May 90 21:17:02 GMT
 
	ANAHEIM, Calif. (UPI) -- Greg Bell won't be at minicamp next week,
and his agent says it's unlikely the running back will be with the Los
Angeles Rams this season as well.
	Bell has rushed for 2,349 yards and 31 touchdowns in his two
seasons with the Rams, but the team reportedly has been seeking to trade
the former Notre Dame star since signing Curt Warner six weeks ago.
	By mutual agreement, Bell will skip the minicamp, which runs Monday
through Thursday.
	``We're fairly optimistic that Greg will probably be moved at the
owner's meeting that will take place next week (in Dallas),'' Bell's
agent, Steve Feldman, told the Orange County Register in Friday's
editions.
	``It's just obvious the Rams are going to go in a different
direction, and we'd like to get in a new situation as soon as
possible.''
	Meanwhile, Pro Bowl linebacker Kevin Greene, who is not signed for
next season, is also expected to miss minicamp. He had 33 sacks the last
two seasons and is seeking a contract that will put him among the
league's top pass rushers.

From: [email protected]
Subject: Rams sign Johnson
Date: 23 May 90 21:05:10 GMT
 
	ANAHEIM, Calif. (UPI) -- The Los Angeles Rams added a fifth
quarterback Wednesday, signing former Canadian Football League standout
Rick Johnson to a two-year contract.
	Johnson, 29, will compete with Mark Hermann, Chuck Long and Chris
Parker for backup spots to Jim Everett.
	The 6-foot-2, 205 pounder played five seasons with Calgary and one
with Toronto. Johnson threw for 31 touchdowns and 4,379 yards in 1986.

Subject: Rams sign punter Elmore
Date: 13 Jul 90 00:26:51 GMT
 
	ANAHEIM, Calif. (UPI) -- The Los Angeles Rams Thursday signed
seventh-round draft pick Kent Elmore, a punter from the University of
Tennessee.
	Elmore, who averaged 42.2 yards a kick in college, will compete for
the Los Angeles punting job with free agent Hank Ilesic. Dale Hatcher,
who held the job the last five seasons, signed with Green Bay as a Plan
B free agent.
	The Rams still have five of their 11 draft choices still unsigned,
including No. 1 pick Bern Brostek of Washington, No. 2 Pat Terrell of
Notre Dame and No. 3 Latin Berrty of Oregon.

Subject: Slater reports to Rams
Date: 22 Aug 90 18:36:59 GMT
 
	ANAHEIM, Calif. (UPI) -- Los Angeles Rams offensive tackle Jackie
Slater ended his four-week holdout Wednesday and began preparations for
his 15th season with the team.
	The Rams would not say whether Slater had successfully renegotiated
his contract or whether the six-time Pro Bowl player would be fined. The
NFL maximum fine for a holdout is $1,500 per day.
	Slater, 36, was upset with his reported $550,000 salary for the
1990 season.
	The team was left with four holdouts -- linebacker Kevin Greene,
defensive end Doug Reed, tight end Damone Johnson and safety Michael
Stewart.

    Hey Jess!
    
    Rams Suck!

    Hey Jess!  How are the Lambs(tm) doing so far this year?
    
    I hear Jim Everett's dad was a sheepherder ;-)

    >>>I hear Jim Everett's dad was a sheepherder ;-)
    
    
    Didn't he fire KJ's dad cuz the sheep was skeert of him?

>    Didn't he fire KJ's dad cuz the sheep was skeert of him?
    
    No, Everett's dad wears 501s for this reason.
    
    Mike

    Reminds me of an old joke. 
    
    Q. What's the differnce between Colorado cowboys and Wyoming cowboys?
    A. (send mail for punch line)
    
    BoB

   Which ones send mail?

    I didn't get any mail!
    
    Is Dinz one of them, cause he gets so much mail?
    
    

Is Curt Warner playing for the Rams?

    The Rams signed Marcus Dupree yesterday.
    
    He's been out of football since 1985 when he was injured while playing
    for the USFL's Portland Breakers.
    
    One interesting point is that, back then, Dupree apparently cashed in
    an insurance policy from Lloyds to cover the premature end to his
    football career.   Now he's playing again ???
    
    Bob Hunt