Conference 7.286::sports_90

    
    
    is Ditka leaving at the end of this year?????
    
    
    he is rumoured for the head coaching job at PITT
    just wondering.......

    re: -1
    I doubt that Ditka's (we're a loosy team) pro approach would work
    in college coaching.  He tried a new approach after the Lions beat
    him--taking all the BLAM.  What's he saying that for?  Is he showing
    his prospective college coach approach to loosing?
    
    Cowboy
    

    I have heard plenty a rumor that the Bears are going for Elway???
    It has been in our paper.  Something about Elway wanting to go some
    place where he is appreciated!!!
    

    According to a tid bit in the Charlotte Observer, the Bears "have
    agreed to participate in an expansion of the McCormick Place exhibition
    center by leasing a proposed domed stadium for 30 years at an annyual
    cost of about $8 million."
    
    Say it ain't so!  The Bears in a domb?  Ugh!
    
    	--dan'l

    ANY BEARS FANS OUT THERE!?!!??
    

I have been a BEARS fan since I was a kid (some time ago).  There were sure a
lot of lean years before Super Bowl XX.  I don't get to see them play much
living in New Hampshire, but I watch them when I can...

		Bill Shively

    Shively, you bum!  You been a RON all this time?  :*)
    
    Lee

    Nope, just a Neal Anderson fan.
    
    Walt (Anderson owner/ Defending DEC FFL- league champion)

    Neal is gonna give you some points!!!!
    
    
    
    A shutout!!!!  Preseason or not thats great news after last years
    D!!!!!
    
    
    

    I saw Hampton play a little in the 1st preseason game against the
    Browns.  Is he back at (somewhat) 100% from his ??th knee surgery?

    
    The Raiders play the Bears Friday night at 8:00 EST, NBC will be
    telecasting the game. Should be a good game. Of course the Raiders
    will win it.
    
    Carlos

    Bears will win!!!!!!
    

    I saw a note in the LA Times yesterday about the Raiders possibly
    pursuing the "recently cut Dave Duerson of the Chicago Bears", cut last
    Sunday.  What is going on, did he become a make a pass at Ditka's wife
    in the offseason or some other crime or is he damaged goods?  Or worse
    yet, are the Bears just TOO CHEAP to keep him?
    
    Could someone fill me in?
    John

    Mark Carrier #1 pick from USC won the starting job. Bears tried to
    trade Duerson and there wasn't any takers so they release him early
    so he could catch on with another team.

    Duerson looked real slow in the second half of last year when the
    Bears where losing. He's not fast enough or the hitter safties need 
    to be.
    
Chuck

    
    Raiders - 20
    Bears   -  3
    
    I know it's only pre-season, but not to worry, the Raiders will 
    do it again in four weeks when it counts.
    
    Carlos
    

    Any info on what the final cuts were and the disabled list looks like
    for the season opener?  All my local info is the Lams/Raider propaganda
    my local papers spew out.
    
    Thanks,
    John

From: [email protected] (ROBERT J. MURPHY, UPI Sports Writer)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.football,clari.sports.top
Subject: Bears to start Harbaugh
Date: 3 Sep 90 19:40:34 GMT
 
 
	LAKE FOREST, Ill. (UPI) -- Chicago Bears Coach Mike Ditka ended
speculation Monday on his team's lingering quarterback question, naming
Jim Harbaugh the starter for the season-opener.
	Ditka refused to address why Harbaugh got the call over Mike
Tomczak after both former Big Ten quarterbacks played to a draw in the
five exhibition games.
	``I went to Oz, and I saw the wizard,'' Ditka said in explaining
the revelation.
	Also Monday, the Bears cut 11 players, the most notable being
third-year linebacker Troy Johnson and fourth-year defensive tackle Dick
Chapura. Chapura started the final three games of 1989, but both played
primarily reserve roles.
	The cuts reduced the Bears roster to 48, one above the NFL-maximum.
The organization was granted a two-week roster exemption for Steve
McMichael, who joined the team last week after a lengthy holdout. Ditka
said McMichael will play, but not start, Sunday against the Seattle
Seahawks.
	Harbaugh, the 26th player taken in the 1987 draft after being named
UPI's Big Ten MVP as a senior at Michigan, has started just seven games
in three seasons. He is 2-5 for his career, including 1-4 in 1989 after
Tomczak faltered and lost his starting role.
	``I feel determined to do well,'' Harbaugh said. ``I'm looking
forward to the challenge. I think there's always pressure at the
quarterback position to do well and I'll be in there as long as I'm
playing well.''
	Ditka reinforced that idea when he said he still planned on playing
two quarterbacks and maybe three this season. Rookie Peter Tom Willis is
the third QB on the roster.
	Tomczak, who won the starting role a year ago after Jim McMahon was
traded to San Diego during the preseason, accepted Ditka's decision.
	``My first reaction obviously is disappointment,'' Tomczak said. 
``But my second reaction is I'm a little relieved because this is a
decision that has weighed heavily. There's nothing much you can really
do about it now. You have to swallow your pride and your ego and realize
there are still a lot of games to be played and hopefully you'll get
another opportunity.''
	``By no means being named the starter is where my goals end for the
year,'' said Harbaugh. ``I've got a lot to prove to the people, a lot to
prove to the coaches, a lot to prove to the players and the fans of
Chicago.''
	Also among the players waived Monday were fullbacks Scott Williams
and Pat Chaffey, offensive tackle Chris Dyko, wide receivers Tom Waddle
and Quintin Smith, cornerback John Mangum, defensive end Brent White and
linebacker Glenell Sanders. Wide receiver Tony Moss was placed on the
waived-injured list.
	Ditka said Waddle will be brought back, however, after decisions
are made on linebacker Dante Jones and wide receiver Glen Kozlowski.
Both are candidates for injured reserve, Jones because of a sprained
knee and Kozlowski a leg bruise.
	The cut of Chapura left the Bears with five defensive tackles,
including veterans McMichael, Dan Hampton and William Perry and rookies
Fred Washington and Tim Ryan. Hampton and Perry will start the opener.
	``They decided they had too many tackles, so I got to go and find
work elsewhere,'' said Chapura, a 10th-round draft choice out of
Missouri in 1987. ``No hard feelings.''
	Ditka called it his toughest cut.
	Johnson also realized he ``got caught up in a numbers game,'' with
the Bears keeping seven linebackers.
	Some of the players on the bubble that made the team for now
include running back James Rouse, who will be the backup fullback, and
tight end James Coley, giving the Bears three tight ends. Rookie running
back Johnny Bailey and second-year back Mark Green also made the squad,
as did rookie defensive end Terry Price, a 10th-round draft choice.

From: [email protected] (United Press International)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.football
Subject: Sunday, Sept. 9
Date: 6 Sep 90 15:51:52 GMT
 
	Favorite -- Chicago by 6.
	Turf -- Natural.
	Seahawks Coach Chuck Knox -- ``We'll use some run-and-shoot but not
the whole picture.''
	Bears Coach Mike Ditka -- ``They're really a completely different
ballclub. This is probably the changing of the guard in Seattle.''
	Seahawks offense -- QB Dave Krieg retained his starting role with a
stellar pre-season. He completed 80 percent of his passes for 296 yards,
although he did not throw a TD. WR Brian Blades is the favorite target
with Steve Largent in retirement. RB Curt Warner is gone to Plan B, and
FB John L. Williams takes over the ground attack.
	Bears defense -- Injuries and age resulted in a collapse from a
second overall ranking in 1988 to 25th in 1989. DT Dan Hampton is back
after a 10th knee operation, but he struggled in the pre-season and sat
out the final game with soreness. Veteran DT Steve McMichael ended his
lengthy holdout and will see his first action of the summer. Pro Bowler
Mike Singletary leads the linebacking corps.
	Bears offense -- Unproven 1987 first-round draft pick Jim Harbaugh
gets the start at QB, although there's not much question Mike Tomczak
will be in if Harbaugh stumbles. All-Pro RB Neal Anderson, the offensive
leader, coming off a season in which he rushed for 1,275 yards, scored
15 TDs and caught 50 passes.
	Seahawks defense -- Highly touted rookie DT Cortez Kennedy also
ended a lengthy holdout and, without even playing in a pre-season game,
could start. Knox might start three rookies on defense, including LB
Terry Wooden and SS Robert Blackmon. Controversial LB Brian Bosworth is
out of football.
	Key matchups -- Seattle DT Cortez Kennedy vs. G Mark Bortz; Seattle
WRs Brian Blades and Tommy Kane vs. second-year CBs Donnell Woolford and
Lemuel Stinson; Seattle QB Dave Krieg vs. rookie FS Mark Carrier.
	Key injuries -- Seattle: LB David Wyman (knee) doubtful. Chicago:
None.
	Head-to-head -- Seahawks hold a 4-1 edge in the series.
	Streaks -- Seahawks have won last four meetings. Bears lost last six
games of 1989 but currently own an NFC-best six-game winning streak in
season openers, tying the New England Patriots for the longest streak in
the NFL. Seahawks won last four exhibition games.

    � ``I went to Oz, and I saw the wizard,'' Ditka said in explaining
    � the revelation.
    
    The wizard ???  Nobody gets to see the wizard.  Not no one.  Not no
    how.
    
    Hey, Iron Mike, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
    
    Bob Hunt

    
    Hey Bears fans,
    
    	Did Tony Woods make the team again this year?
    
    Claybone

    The Chicago Bores will be brought back to earth this week. Just like
    preseason when the Raiders kicked some butt.
    
    LOS ANGELES RAIDERS- 24
    Chicago Bores-       17

    The Bears are gonna need more than field goals to win this weekend.
    The Raider defense has been playing pretty good against both the 
    run and the pass allowing only 25 points so far this season. The
    Bears defense also has been playing great allowing only 29 points
    so far. Both teams could use some help in the QB position on offense,
    but I think this weekend that Schroeder will have a better day than
    Harbaugh, giving the Raiders a win by seven or more.
    
    Carlos

    
    re-1
    
      Carlos, get real the Monsters of the Midway will score and Al's
    Raidiers  will fade into the past. No Offense against a great Defense,
    like they have yet to face. No contest Art Shell loses his first in LA.
    
    Cadzilla
    

    Art Shell is doing a fine job with the current LA/Oakland crop.
    
         However, this is the weekend he'll drop from the ranks of the 
    unbeaten. 
    
         How do you like your crow, Carlos?
    

    
    No crow for me thanks, I'll just be having some of that freshly
    butchered bear meat. As far as, 'No offense against a great defense,
    like they have yet to face.' is concerned, well the same argument
    can be made for the Raiders. Besides that, last year the Donks
    had the 3rd best defense in the league, with Seattle coming in 14th,
    and the Steelers were 19th, while the Bears were rated 25th. (Raiders
    were 10th by the way) The Raiders managed to overcome those defenses 
    as they will the Bears this weekend. Ditka really knows how to get his 
    'monsters that are middle-aged'(t.m.) psyched at the begginning of 
    the season as is evidenced by their 4-0 start last year, but they're 
    getting tired now and they're just about ready to lay down and play 
    dead for the rest of the season. :*) 
    
    Carlos                   

    >>can be made for the Raiders. Besides that, last year the Donks
    >>had the 3rd best defense in the league, with Seattle coming in 14th,
    >>and the Steelers were 19th, while the Bears were rated 25th. (Raiders
    >>were 10th by the way) The Raiders managed to overcome those defenses 
    >>as they will the Bears this weekend. Ditka really knows how to get his 
    
    What does last year's rankings have to do with this years games????
    
    Also, calling the Raider defense "GREAT" is a laugher.  Sure they only
    allowed the Steelers 3 points but the way Joe Walton is running the
    Steeler offense, a team made up of pre-schooler or nursing home
    resident could keep the Steelers out of the end zone.
    
    Bears 28-
    Raiders  10
    
    
    
    JaKe
    

    Beers - 12, I'll cut back Sat night.
    
    
    Bears 24
    Faiders(tm) 3

    RE: 25  You were talking about the Bears with a fast start and then a
    fade last year?  There is one thing about that comparison with last
    year you were right about, the Bears will get to at least 4-0 this
    season, but no fade!
    
    It will be a good game, the Raiders look pretty good for this year not 
    quite enough for this weekend. No more "Traitors of the Lost Art" as 
    they were called by the Oakland fans (myself included) the year they 
    left Oakland.
    
    Bears 17
    Raiders 13
    

    Forgot to ask in the last note, I did not see or hear much detail about
    last Sundays game with the Vikes but I read in Tuesdays LA Times that
    Wade Wilson was put on the Disabled List!  What happened?  Are the
    Bears back to their old habits with having oposing quarterbacks for
    Sunday brunch?
    
    ...John

    On the final play of the game, Wilson hurt his thumb.  He may require
    surgery and, if so, will miss about 4 games.
    

He went under the knife yesterday.

daryll

    
    With the easy schedule the Bears have, they'd better make the playoffs.

    
    The Bears ain't nothin! All week I've been hearing how great their
    defense is, but the Raiders ran right over them averaging close
    to 5 yds per carry and 21 yds per pass. While the Raider defense shut
    the Bears down, sacking Harbaugh 6 times for a loss of 66 yds and
    a fumble recovery that lead to a TD. Crow pie for everybody. 8-)
    
    Carlos

    Neal Anderson:  6 carries.  26 yards.  No receptions.
    
         I called the Chicago Bears Line on Friday to see if Neal was playing 
    but there was no mention of his condition.  There was supposed to be an 
    updated report before Sunday but I didn't call back.  Sunday's papers
    listed him as 'questionable'.
    
         Anyone have an update on Anderson's condition?

    He had busted ribs and left early

    Beware simple noters, the Bears will be in the Super Bowl...
    
    I have spoken.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    RE: .36
    
    P.S. For the *REAL* simple noter, when a date is not mentioned, the
    default is NEXT.
    
    I have spoken (again).
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Right now, the Bears still have to play a wild card team in the 1st
    round of the playoffs...
    

    Yeah, but I think the Gints have that game in season's end...
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    
    The Bears will beat Phoenix on Sunday. Final score will hopefully be
    
    Bears 27
    
    Phoenix 13

    Yesterday I heard something on the radio which got my attention.  The NFL
    player(s) of the week were (1) someone whose name escapes me (a non-Bear)
    and (2) the entire starting Bear offensive line!  How about that for
    recognizing the folks who actually did the job?
    
    JK

NFL Defensive player of the week, was, I believe, Everson Walls,
NY Giants DB....

'Saw

    Are you sure you heard that right?  I don't know.  Last year when the
    Bucs beat the Bears for the second straight time, Tampa's whole
    offensive unit was named player of the week.  The Bears didn't take
    kindly to that and are out for revenge this year.  
    
    Are you sure that's not what you heard?
    
    	--dan'l

    	Bears line was named Offensive Player(s) Of The Week and Walls
    was named Defensive Player Of The Week.  You're both right.
    
    				/Don

    
    Bears OL was great in the first �, but went to sleep afterwards.  I
    wonder if it had more to do with the Bears having a week off to prepare
    and the Cardinals making adjustments at halftime.  
    
    Bruce

    	Maybe those big fellows wilted in the Phoenix heat?

    What happened yesterday???  We were ripe to lose but by 28 points!  I
    did not see the game, did the Vikes get lots of turnovers or run the
    ball down the Bears throat?
    
    ...JK

    Chicago Fumbled the Ball 3 times to Minnasotas None, Minn also sacked
    Chicago 7 times....
    
    		

    Speaking of fumbles, does Muster wait and select a particularly bad
    time in the game to drop the ball?  Memory servers me that he does'nt
    drop it often but it seems like it only happens late in close games!
    
    JK

    Its that time of the year again as the end of the season looms and the 
    Bear's quarterback is doubtful for the playoffs.  Toss-it-up Tomzack is
    back in the saddle again.  Oh boy!
    
    The name Peter Tom Willis becomes a bit more important, now the #2 QB.
    A credible sportswriter in the LA Times, Alan Mulamahd, commented a
    few days ago that he feels Willis will develop into the best of the
    three Bear QBs!
    
    I know nothing about him except he is from Florida State. Can anyone
    fill me in?
    
    Thanks,
    JK

    Not much of a FLA_State fan, but Willis did score the last of the Bears
    TD's Sunday night.  He threw a bullet while pressured, looked like
    he had more pro playing time than Tomczak (A.K.A. Tomchoke).
    
    Love to see a come_from_nowhere_superstar_situation develop in the
    Shytown!!!  Could give Willis a bad case of Pitinosis(tm) from the
    home_town_fan_belt.
    
    Go_Bearz,
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Anyone catch the news this morning about the Bears rookie lineman who
    was killed last night in a car wreck?  I heard it on the tube this
    morning and I didn't catch the name.  Anyone else hear this?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Randy

    I heard it to...I think his last name was Washington?
    
    pete

>>    I heard it to...I think his last name was Washington?
    
>>    pete

      If the above holds then its Fred Washington, DT from TCU. 
      He was there 2nd round pick this past draft.

Chuck