Conference 7.286::sports_90

    This is the list of Moderators for this conference. If anyone has any
    questions about the conference, feel free to send one of us mail.
    
    Steven Gaulke ( CSC32::GAULKE )
    Hal Whitehair ( LUDWIG::WHITEHAIR )
    Jim McFall    ( BLITZN::MCFALL )
    Keith Macneal ( AUSTIN::MACNEAL )
    Bruce May     ( JULIET::MAY_BR )
    Jim Wardle    ( CSC32::J_WARDLE )
    Jeff Riggen   ( BSS::RIGGEN )

    
    Is there still going to be a BASEBALL conference on ASABET?  I'd
    welcome it...
    
    glenn

>    
>    Is there still going to be a BASEBALL conference on ASABET?  I'd
>    welcome it...


	Yes.  I'll try to create it soon.  Look for asabet::strictly_baseball
to open soon.  

p.s.  there seems to bwe something wrong with ourgng, I keep getting dropped.

    
    Also my next unseen key doesn't work???
    
    mike

    Yeah, I keep getting my link aborted (ha ha).  Being a
    non-technoweenie, this is imposing an enormous amount of stress and
    emotional discomfort on my ~4 brain cells......
    
    Please help!
    
    Hawk

Someone should check the NETSERVER.LOG files on OURGNG to see if there are any
errors.  I haven't had any problems.

j.

    Don't mean to clutter this note with questions, or whatever, but since
    this is a new "era" for SPORTS, that is, different management, can we
    have one Wrasslin' note again.  I know it's an unpopular topic for
    some, but I'd bet that at least 50% of the noters, RON's included,
    would like to see it back.  Personally, while I don't watch wrasslin'
    like I used to, I'd still like to know what crap is going on in the WWF
    and that other southern federation.  Yeah, I know that there's a
    wrasslin' conference, but why would I be axing for this note if I had
    wrasslin' in my notebook.
    
    And if anti-wrasslin' people like REK would simply next-unseen it
    instead of replying a zillion times how stupid and fake it is (we all
    now it!), then it could be a highly entertaining topic.
    
    So, moderators, whaddya say?
    
    Hawk

    This moderator says NO to Wrasslin'.  Just add that conference to your
    notebook, Hawk, and quit whinin' ;^).
    
    HTH
    Mac as Moderator

    < Note 1.11 by AUSTIN::MACNEAL "Big Mac" >
                 -< This is SPORTS not ENTERTAIMNENT_TONIGHT >-

>    This moderator says NO to Wrasslin'.  Just add that conference to your
>    notebook, Hawk, and quit whinin' ;^).

    As Dan so eloquently pointed out in the last SPORTS rendition, let
    the noters decide.
    
    I'll post a poll.
    
    Mark.

    But Dan was wrong.  DEC isn't a democracy.

    Chill out.
    
    Mark.

YOu guys working on the links problem ?

I keep getting dropped everytime I try and enter a note....


metz

Wait a minute..... To many of the Mod's are Donk fans!!!! ;^)


Many ;^)'s


Monty

    You Gotta Like It !!
    
    Big Game

    We had several problems.....this system is not really managed so to
    speak so I had to change a couple of things.
    
    So far, I needed to boost max links, boost some notes$server
    parameters, and some other stuff that I already forgot about.
    
    Sorry if everyone got hosed a little while ago, but I had to kill the
    notes processes so that the new UAF stuff could take effect.
    
    Thanks for all your help Bruce

       I want rasslin'!!
                                    Denny

    We've got a hardware problem. I have to talk it over with Jeff,
    but we have a problem with our ethernet hardware. 
    
    So, pardon the aborted logical links. You may get them for a few
    days.
    
    JoJ

    
    another for rasslin'
    
    mike

    It's almost 24 hours since this conference was created, and there are
    already 300 total notes (base and replies).
    
    Glad to see everyone's made the effort to limit the junk notes.  Sure
    hope OURGNG has a lot of disk space...  :-)
    
    -- dg

    OURGNG is kind of an appropriate name for this conference. Alot of the
    folks that participate have been doing so for 5 years now...
    
    What a great conference....the best on the net.

    Jo*, don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.  
    
    Have a lousy weekend.
    
    Mark.

    re: Lefebvre
    
    Stuff it.

    Yea,  STUFF IT Lamebrain !�!
    
     Thanks for saving ::SPORTS JoJ,  I will be indebted to you
    for life.  Well, for at least the rest of the Foot-A-Ball
    season anyway.
    
    Big Game
    

	I have some suggestions:

1) There should be a suggestion box

2) Instead of rasslin, we should have a G.L.O.W. note. These beautiful and
highly educated ladies embody all that is great about sports, plus it is
wrestling of the best caliber, with nothing phony about it. If someone wanted
to post some information on Hulk Hogan, or some of the other entertainers, I'm
sure that the purists among us would not mind that much.

3) I think that there should be certain notes that DON'T get deleted, in fact a
couple that should be brought over from ASABET intact. Such as: The JOKES note,
The GLOSSARY Note, etc. ----- These things don't get old. Extraneous
`conversations' within these notes could be deleted, but the notes themselves
make a nice intro for new noters entering the notesfile.

Phoe shit shlep
Mike JN

    If you want a note brought over from ASABET, extract it to a file
    and create a new note here.
    
    Keep in mind it won't be brought over in it's present form.
    
    Personally, I'd rather see you start the topic over again in this
    conference if you really like the topic.
    
    As for a suggestion box, I'll create a note for it.
    
    JoJ

>>    If you want a note brought over from ASABET, extract it to a file
>>    and create a new note here.
>>    
>>    Keep in mind it won't be brought over in it's present form.

I've got a tool (PAN) that will allow a note to be brought over and keep the
original authors/dates/stuff intact.  Let me know if you want anything brought
over.

j.

	Now that OURGNG = SPORTS

How do we access ASABET::SPORTS to look at old stuff?

Mike JN

    why do I always get a "path to network partner lost" message on
    OURGANG?
    
    Rich
    

    
    	network partner aborted logical link-

    	Frustrating, isn't it?

    See note 1.20.

    re:.20
    
    There you go again Jim, blaming everything on hardware...
    
    
    

>    re:.20
>    
>    There you go again Jim, blaming everything on hardware...
    
    
Correction:

     There you go again Jim, BLAM-ing(tm) everything on hardware...


Chainsaw, Supreme Kommandan, KGP    

       Looks like the Network problems are fixed! When are youse guys
    going to admit it was the Software after all?
                              ^^^^^^^^     
                                                                 Denny

    For you h/w technoweenies OURGNG is a 6230 stand-alone system that if
    Santa comes through with the Budget Bucks(Don't shoot Mark) will be
    clustered in the 90's. 
    
    Jeff

    	Why, on 9 January 1990, do we have replies dated 10 January?
    
    	Scott

Pretty simple really.  You can set the time on the system to anything
you want.  (Heck, when I worked at American Airlines I always kept
a batch job in the batch queue waiting for 31-DEC-9999....just to blow
people's minds).

Anyway, sometimes when you're fooling around with licensing or stuff that
expires etc, you set the system time ahead to force your stuff to expire
and test it out.  I'd guess that's what's going on, either that or
someones just ALL HOPPED UP out there!!!!!


Chainsaw

    Knowing Riggen,  I'd say it was the Latter !!!!! 
    
    Just Joking, Jeff......
    
    Big Game who's ready for Copper Mtn.   You can get $24.00
    lift tickets at Vickers gas stations
    
    

    Sorry folks I got real used to starting my week on Tuesday with the
    holidays and stuff. 
    Should be fixed now....
    
    Jeff
    
    Hunter, Wardle is talking Breck...
    
    Jeff

    
    Dontcha just wish you could 'nexted unseen' Wednesday, Thursday,
    and Friday, too, and get on with the weekend?
    
    -Dick
    
    

    What ever....   I'm going to check conditions today...
    I'll send mail and let you Wimpy Little Girly Skiers
    know the scoop.
    
    Big Game

    ACCHRIS,
    
    	Since today is yesterday, and yesterday was THE GAME
    (to me at least), how much did St. John's beat Syracuse by?
    
    I must been occupied and missed it.
    
    Thanks  ;^)
    
    Kev_OW
    

    This is driving me crazy.......
    
    What does OURGNG::LDUC mean/refer to?
    
    Hawk

    LDUC is a kinder, gentler abbreviation for pi**ing contest.  LDUC
    = Long Distance Urination Contest.
    
    HTH,
    
    jh

    I knew I'd seen that before.  Thank's, John!  :-)
    
    H'awk

    Judging that I have 15:58 for a time hear and the notes file is
    two hours slower, does this mean the machine is on some NY City
    garbabe barge that is lost in the Atlantic.  
    
    Where is this node?
    
    

>    Where is this node?

	Colorado Springs, Colorado
    
    An anti-donk

    Of course:  time minus two hours equals west not east
    
    grovel, grumble

    Yea......   Get a Clue, would ya !   ;^)
    
    Big Game

    > Yea...... Get a Clue, would ya !   ;^)
    
    OK, how about 'Ignore those with green hair'?  8^)

    Least coast time - 2 = MOUNTAIN TIME!
    
    Claybone

>    Least coast time - 2 = MOUNTAIN TIME!
    
    You mean girly_mon_daylight_savings mountain time.  Only Arizona is
    mountain time because we don't abide by such rubbish.
    
    Mike

    We aren't on daylight savings time Mikey.
    
    HTH,
    
    Claybone

    Sorry about the Time warp fella's I've got a person doing system backup
    that caint read a watch...
    
    Jeff

�   -< How come we're all numbers now, not nodenames? >-


New Digital reforms...    

Kinda like Leavenworth, only kinder and gentler with matrix wardenship....


8^)

            <<< Note 1.65 by 18557::WAY "With malice toward none" >>>

�   -< How come we're all numbers now, not nodenames? >-


New Digital reforms...    

Kinda like Leavenworth, only kinder and gentler with matrix wardenship....


8^)

Crap!

	I pulled the plug out with my foot.

I was trying to ask, what's going on with the NEXT UNSEEN?

Every time I get in, now, I start from note 1.0

I put in    SET SEEN   and it shows no new notes (which it's supposed to). Then
I get out and  do UPDATE SPORTS, and it shows some 13,000+  unseen notes, and
when I get back in, it starts at 1.0 again.

Mike  JN

What's with OURGNG and time?  I didn't realize that the Rockies were 1� hours
different than the east coast.  Here in Nashua it's 7:00.

j.

    Hey Jeff...you don't wanna know. I'll fix the time. Thanks for pointing
    that out. Send Riggen mail if ya wanna know the real poop on OURGNG.
    He cain splain it better than me.
    
    JoJ

    OK, so maybe I ain't one of the "Inner Circle" of
    writers but I got I B*tch....
    
    It is now 11:07PM at my house.  I've been logged in
    sinc{ 7:50PM.
    
    Around 8:30 pm I got the familiar "no more notes" crap so I 
    did some more (Real) work.
    
    'bout :20 minutes ago I went back into SP90 to see what was happenin
    and got the opportunity to read ~40 messages which had time stamps
    from about 2:30PM (est) till now.
    
    I know something is very wrong!  There ain't no way Mike Childs
    (a co-site buddy) was at work this late ( it's dart night) and coupled
    with the fact that ALL the messages I read were time stamped BEFORE
    5:00PM (EST) except for (sorry person?) 2 from about 20:00 hours.!!!!!
    
    As a mostly RON ADDICT, I got a real issue here.  
    
    What the (omygawdicant believe i'm saying this...) DEVIL is going on??
    
    If I'm doing free work for our employer, and can't watch/listen to
    what's happening, AND if the damn computer tells me I read everything
    and up to time, how can I trust the message?  
    
    What is going on?  What is discombobulated here?
    
    Other conferences I RON don't exhibit this peculiarity.
    
    For the self-proclaimed  "BEST ON THE NET" conference,
    there is a bit to be desired!
    
    Kev_OW(tm)
    (OW means OCCASIONAL WRITER in case you forgot!)
    

For a change everything seems OK on OURGNG.  Perhaps you had two processes in
notes?  If you are in a notes file, leave it open, spawn notes and read the
notes file until there are no more notes, go back to the first process and exit
notes, your unseen gets screwed up.

If that isn't it, beats me.

    Maybe some are using batch reply tools?

    
    
     What happened to the Official Sports Quote Note?
    
    

    re:  Official Sports Quote Note
    
    You mean that note where we put in quotes from sports personalities,
    like the Oil Can Boyd quote about Cleveland being nexted to the ocean? 
    :-)  I don't think this version of SPORTS has a quote note.  Start one,
    and I'll try my hardest to stray from the topic as much as possible! 
    :-)
    
    Oh yeah, I love the new introductary one-liner- "Welcome to
    OURGNG::MENSLOCKERROOM"!  Rollward!!!!!111(tm)
    
    H�wk

    
    
     It was one of the following:
    
    
     56, 107, 124, 147, 157.
    
    
    Don't know why they were all deleted though.
    
    
    
      	STeven
    
    

    
    
     Which leads to an interesting question as to which notes were
    deleted and why?
    
    
    

That is a good question Steven....

I'll check some history


Jeff

    Sorry folks for the shutdown. Seems we had a major storm push through
    the area Wednesday night and killed the BI to XMI adapter. All should
    be fixed for now. 
    
    Jeff

    Didja go up to Gleneagle and try to drive any of those hailstones with
    your driver?
    
    JoJ

    
    O.K, Jeff, just don't let it happen again.
    

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    	Wasn't there a new conference here last night?
    
    							GTI
    

    Either keep the old one or make a new one. One or the other.

    whahh wahhh wahhhh....
    
    

    
    	Bad dream?  Heck it seemed like a dream come true!!
    
    							GTI
    

re last few:

	What *ARE* you guys talking about?  Or am I just 'shroomed out
	again?

'Saw

    Saw,
    
    For us West Coasters, and for late night easterners, there was indeed
    a "new" sports conference lasted night.  It was called the "New
    Non-Offensive Sports Conference", and the opening note was penned
    by JoJ hisself.
    
    By the time I left, it had about 13 topics or so (I  started two
    of em) and only one junk note (thanks to Clay)  ;-)
    
    It was strange - especially when I logged in this morning and found
    my nexted unseen all messed up!
    
    HTH
    
    JD

    
    	There were 14 topics ... I started a "Pool/Billiards" note
    	at about 7:30/8:00.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    Shawn,
    
    You weren't working at that time were you????  
    
    Wheel
    
    (Holly says 'hi')

Shawn dude, 

You should have been listening to Iron Maiden instead.  Much
better for your outlook on life. ;^)

be excellent to each other,
'Saw

    Re: Shawn
    
    He was probably write-locking another conference ;-)
    
    Mike

    
    	[So, why was there a new SPORTS conference here last night?]
    
    
    	No, I wasn't working ... don't be silly.
    
    	Tell Holly I said "Hi".
    
    	RE: Mike H.    8^)
    
    	RE: Frank
    
    	Too much Heavy_Metal is bad for you ... heck, just look at me
    	and judge for yourself!!  8^)
    
    							GTI
    

�    	Too much Heavy_Metal is bad for you ... heck, just look at me
�    	and judge for yourself!!  8^)
    
Shawn, 

We metal-maniacs have to stick together however, to keep the free world
safe from people like 

	JoJ, who likes Air Supply and The Little River Band
	Karen, who's crazy about some Blonde made outta cement
	Dinz, who's a closet Pogues fan
	Hawk, who's really Zamfir in disguise
	/Don, who like Nana Mouskouri
        Claywas, who's the son of Slim Whitman
and
	Lufay, who's really Boxcar Willie...


sign me,
Iron_Chainsaw_Sabbath
	

    
    	I love Air Supply!!
    
    							GTI
    

    Slab,
    
    Only you would admit to it!
    

    I think you write locked the golf topic by mistake...
    

    Saw obviously has been Metal-ed-out. Read some of his whacky notes.
    
    		Sign me Black-Maiden Rich
    BTW 'Saw, Aces High......
    

heh, heh, heh....

It must be all those little backwards messages that say to
my brain cells:  Die, Die, Die, Die....

Sign me "The Last in Line...",
'Saw

    'Saw, I've just gotta speak to you. I've got some real rare Maiden
    music that I'd tape for ya. DTN 256-2284. I'm a Customer Services 
    Eng. so if you'd like to call just leave a message wif the sec'y.
    Ooops. This isn't sports related. Tough Titles :-)
    
    		          The Trooper
    
    

    I'm a little slow at picking things up, and it took me until about a
    week ago to figure out that :-) was supposed to be a smiley face, and
    what the hell you guys have been refering to.  Excuse my earlier notes
    if they seemed overly harsh because they weren't very serious.  I'm a
    changed man now, and junk noting is part of my past. :-)
    
    TomR
     

    Where is the NFL notesfile?
    
    REK

    < Note 1.104 by GOLF::KINGR "Save the EARTH, we may need it later!!!" >


>    Where is the NFL notesfile?
>    
>    REK

    NAVIER::NFL
    
    Mark.

     Thanks Mark... and no cheap-shots either!!!  :-}
    
    REK

    1..2..3..4.......

    5..6..7..8......
    
    REK

9...A...B...C


'Saw

    Oh Gawd, Frank's counting in hex again.
    
    
    Someone please check his 'shrooms and make sure he hasn't gotten a bad
    batch.  At the very least, someone teach him octal, so's I can keep up
    on my fingers.
    
    A&W

Okay, then picking up where I left off....

11...12...13...14

and we'd have to correct REK's 8 to 10 of course...

Your octally,
'Saw

    Can anyone explain how I can get a print out of the entire Sports
    Directory.  I've tried Forward/Noedit, but all I get is the last note
    read.
    
    Thanks,
    PJ

Try 

	DIR/OUTPUT=filespec 1-last

then look in your default directory for that filespec, and it will
contain the directory.....

HTH,
(go Reds!)
'Saw

    I believe that the non-technoweeniest way to accomplish this is simply
    to do a directory starting at note 1, then hit "Print Screen" on your
    keyboard at each page of the directory.......
    
    No problem.
    
    Hawk

    Morgan juggled the lineup for today's game.  From memory:
    
    Burks
    Reed
    Boggs
    Greenwell
    Pe�a
    Evans
    Brunansky
    Quintana
    Rivera

<                        <<< Note 1.115 by SASE::SZABO >>>
<                -< See, I ain't as stupid as some might think! >-
<
<    I believe that the non-technoweeniest way to accomplish this is simply
<    to do a directory starting at note 1, then hit "Print Screen" on your
<    keyboard at each page of the directory.......
<    
<    No problem.
<    
<    Hawk

	But for the really daring non-technoweenie, do a
	"<control> print screen".

		Ed^2

wtf is wrong with the network database on OUrgng? How come we get node numbers
instead of node names? Somebody heet that system mangler upside the heead and
tell him to load in a full network databse will ya ?

Unless you don't have the disk space of course...


Metz

>tell him to load in a full network databse will ya ?
>
>Unless you don't have the disk space of course...
    
    that's quite a chunk with today's network!

    Jeff Riggen told me that there is something wrong around the database
    of OURGNG and he will fix it next week.  He is in a class this week.

    Sorry for the upper case.  Maybe it would help if some rules of the
    conference were entered into the system.  It would really help out the
    new people that are trying out the conference.  On thing I haven't been
    able to accomplish is how to create a window so that if someone dosen't
    want to see it they can pass it right up.  
    
    	This is one example that should be put into a reference file if
    someone has trouble in the conference...
    
    Sorry again....
    
    On a later date..!
    
    The Bart....

     Another question::
    
    	Wondering how to open up a file.  So far, I haven't seen anything
    on skiing.  With me being a big ski buff I would like to know how to
    open up a account.  Also how can you delete unwanted files?  My list is
    huge and it takes forever to go through them all.  There are only
    certain files I would like to access and don't wish to waste time
    trying to find the files.  Some files have never even beed accessed and
    should be removed.  I'm just starting out and need a little help.  Just
    want to join in on the fun of the conference and share some of my own
    thoughts with you all.
    
    See ya On the Dark Side ::
    
    The Bart....
    

    Okay, first things first ...
    
    First, ditch the nickname.   Can't have any "The ..." nicknames in
    here.  Besides, it's pass�.   Trump is going to get his butt hammered
    in divorce court and I'm sure he'd like to ditch "The Donald" tag by
    now.   You have to ditch "The Bart" thing.   You'll have people
    thinking "Simpsons" when I'm sure you'd rather be taken a bit more
    seriously.
    
    Next, do you want to create a brand new TOPIC note ???   One that
    starts a brand new discussion on a topic not previously covered ???
    
    *BEFORE* you do, do a DIRECTORY of the conference and make sure that no
    other note is around that you can use.  This cuts down the "noise".  
    So to check if there is a skiiing note, do ...
    
    	Notes> DIR /TITLE="skiing"
    
    If you come up empty, then you can create a new topic note with ...
    
    	Notes> WRITE
    
    ... and you can tell everybody what you want to talk about in that
    first topic note.   Don't worry too much if pretty soon nobody's
    talking about skiing anymore and instead are talking about the Celtics,
    Bobby Knight, the Broncos, or Dean Smith.   Happens all the time.   Try
    not to let it annoy you.
    
    Also, you may want to read a few of the notes in that SAMPLE_CONFERENCE
    that first appeared in your notebook.  It's got some helpful hints on
    noting etiquette.  I noticed that you've already quit using ALL CAPS
    SINCE PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE SHOUTING IF YOU DO THAT.   Well done.    The
    rest of that etiquette information will help, too.
    
    Hope this helps you ...
    
    The Bob

    > ......instead are talking about the Celtics, Bobby Knight, the Broncos,
    > and Dean Smith.
    
    Don't forget music, religion, politics, and sex!  :-)
    
    Go ahead, open a new topic.  We're long overdue for a good diversion in
    one or all of the above.....  :-)
    
    Hawk

A couple of other things:

	There's a topic in here (124 I think) which is the trademark
	topic.

	Over time, people come up with nifty expressions in here, and
	they kind of catch on.  They trademark (tm) them.

	For example, one that comes to mind is Detriot(tm), which came
	into being because of the bad boy Detroit Pistons.  Anyway, 
	if you observe for a while, you'll get the hang of when to
	(tm) something and when not to.  Since you're new we'll cut ya
	some slack 8^)


	Also, you'll learn about RCASO.  RCASO was a guy who used to
	note in here, but as has been previously said by others, he
	couldn't type too well, and tended to use lots of upper case.
	Anyway, he inadvertently came up with some gems of expressions.
	if you see "YOU OUR TOO BLAM"  (translation:  you are to blame)
	you'll know it's an RCASO expression, as are the words nexted,
	lasted, firsted etc....

	You won't really be accepted into the fold until you start one
	helluva digression on guitar players.  The moderators will tolerate
	it for a couple of hundred replies or so, then they get mad and
	tell you to knock it off.  If you can get them to that point,
	you'll be golden (but then knock it off 8^))

	Finally, you've got to do SPORTShrooms....  

later,
Chainsaw

You can also type HELP at the notes prompt, and it'll give you info on
various subjects.

You can also skip topics in which you have no interest by hitting the 
' [ NEXTED UNSEEN ] on your keypad.

If you have a specific editor you ordinarily use, ie. I use sort of a
customized EVE, you can set up a SPAWN sequence in a NOTES$EDIT.COM
file.

PS -  As this notesfile has a home in Colorado, any bad mouthing of John
`god'(tm) Elway, can have serious rip-her-cushions (tm). Just ask Mike
Childs: he's had his peepee whacked so many times he said it's more like
a splinter than a woodie.

Hope this helps... and welcome aboard.
Mike JN

    And for some serious help  (some of us tend to be a little more serious
    than others of us, but you'll find out quickly enuf about who's who).
    
    If you are *really* interested in skiing, there is a notesfile
    dedicated to the sport.  It's on DSSDEV::SKIING.  If I manage to do
    everything right, you should be able to hit KP7 and add it to your
    notebook.  It's got lots of info on conditions, and equipment, and how
    to stuff, and where to stay and eat when in the mountains, and good
    routes to ski slopes, etc. etc.
    
    A&W

�                      <<< Note 1.129 by FRAGLE::WASKOM >>>
�                             -< Pointer to Skiing >-
�
�                                                      and how
�    to stuff, and where to stay and eat when in the mountains    
�

	A&W

	I don't think you can talk like that in here.

	Mike JN

	

re Mac:


Even us serious ruggers have to make a little mischief once in a while 8^)


Chainsaw_a_sort_of_reformed_junk_noter

 

    ...and never open a topic on throwing, flinging, slinging, pitching,
    tossing, casting, hurling, hurtling, heaving, chucking, lobbing,
    launching, catapulting, or passing little people.  It will get
    write-locked faster than you can hit NEXT RETURN.  
    
    Just ask JaKe.
    
    	--dan'l

    re-.1
    
    I am the world write=locked speed record holder, undisputed!!!
    
    
    JaKe
    

    Wehw, Hancock, wewcome to Sports.  Don't wisten to these siwwey guys in
    here.  There aren't that many whuwes to fowwow, but there are some
    stwange quiwks that some noters have.  Wike, 'shwooms, and
    twademarks,and wower case, and smiweys.  :*)
    
    Enjoy.
    
    Whee

I always knew Lee played the Bishop in "The Princess Bride"...

    Excuse me,  
    
    	Sorry to write this in the sports notes, but I haven't been able to 
    figure out how to start a file?  Please help.  I have several topics
    that some people might be interested and would like to start up a file
    on fishing and other such items.  
    
    			Thank you,
    
    			Pat and Sean
    
    			COMET::HARTLINGP
    
    

    
Gents,

Reading your message I'm not sure if you want to start up a whole *conference*
(e.g. OURGNG::SPORTS) or just a topic within the SPORTS conference.

Anyway, I imagine it's a topic you want to start, so just type "write" instead
of "reply", and *presto* you have a new topic.  

Otherwise, contact Chainsaw as he is the offishull "New Topic Starter Upper".

If it's a whole conference you want to start, I don't remember    ;^{)))).

HTH,

rick ellis

Starting up a whole conference is pretty heavy stuff.  

When I started up the Hartford Whalers conference, I needed the permission
of my manager and our system manager.

As has been mentioned in here before, using the command WRITE will allow
you to start a new topic.  ALSO, there is a sample conference that comes
when you first open up notes.  There's a plethora of useful information
in there.

Finally, NOTES does have on line help.  Type help and browse around,
again, a plethora is useful, entertaining and helpful info is there....


Good luck,
Chainsaw

    
    Pat and Sean,
    
    	There is a whole conference dedicated to fishing.  Try adding
    	RAINBO::FISHING to your notebook.  That's where it was last
    	time I checked.
    
    Claybroon

    Should that kind of note be allowed here????
    
    Sheesh!!!Next thang ya know there 'l be a note on RASSLIN' !!!!!!
    
    Kev

Kev, it's only MANLY if you catch the fish hook in your ear as
you cast, and it rips open your earlobe.  That's MANLY.


Welcome to Pat and Sean's Excellent Noting Adventure!

'Saw

�    			Pat and Sean
�    
�    			COMET::HARTLINGP


Is this Pat and Sean some kind of SPORTS schizophrenia?

Or am this 2 people on one node (illegal in parts of Kansas)?

Or what?

Mike JN
    

       Might be at RANGER::FISHING now.
                                Denny

    All this fishing stuff reminded me of something I read in the Jokes
    file:
    
       It's not how deep you fish, it's how you wiggle your worm.
    
    Brought to you by,
    
    John "D Cowboys R.

There are only 13 days of OURGNG::SPORTS left 

Only 11 shopping days left Frank. 

Are there any other options ??

I should know today -- Friday.

I've got to talk with my manager.  She was on the phone with her
manager when I left last night so I knew I wouldn't get the chance
to talk to her then...

I'll be down to the wire. 8^)

Trust me,
'Saw