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2193.1 | you don't always need a bell... | STAR::AVERY | | Fri May 09 1997 13:27 | 14 |
| Hi,
This doesn't answer your question (although perhaps something like
a sleigh bell (large jingle bell) would work) but one of our dogs has
figured out how to do that without a bell.
The doorknob on our front door is rather loose and makes a slight
metal-on-metal rattling sound when it's touched. Tasha has learned
to get our attention and tell us she wants to go out by hitting the
doorknob with her nose! It rattles and one of us immediately responds
to take her out. She has us well-trained... And I won't embarrass myself
by telling you how long it took us to figure this out ;-)
- Sue
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2193.2 | We use a large jingle bell | 26031::ogodhcp-123-40-18.ogo.dec.com::CHAFFEE | | Mon May 12 1997 11:30 | 9 |
| Cyndi Chaffee
[email protected]
We use a Large Jingle bell. I hang it from the doorknob with Cording. It has to be strong enough
not to be cut from the bangin of the bell. We have one on both the family room door and the back
door. It was VERy easy to train Kody to use them. It works great for us.
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2193.3 | Do they just figure it out? | NNTPD::"[email protected]" | Leslie Woolner | Wed May 14 1997 16:44 | 33 |
| I hung a brass ring with attached sleigh bells on the kitchen door (the one
Sammy uses to go out) and I make sure to jingle it and call attention to it
every time we go out. Sammy (4 months old) cocks her head as if to say "Huh?"
but she doesn't seem to be getting the message that *she* can ring it. (It's
only been a couple of days, though.) She occasionally sniffs the bells (she's
a Beagle; sniffing is her job!) and when it results in a ring, we rupture out
of our seats saying "Sammy want to go OUT? Want to go OUTSIDE?!" and take
her out. (She *always* wants to go outside... but only because that's where
all the exotic smells are!)
My question is: did all you parents of bell-ringing pooches do active training
with them, or basically what I'm doing, or train passively by waiting for the
dog to make the Pavlovian connection?
Also I have a True Confession: I have been expressing disappointment and, dare
I say it, *anger* when Sammy pees or poops on the kitchen floor. I know the
PC stance these days is to ignore the whole episode, for fear the dog will
equate your displeasure with the mere fact of elimination (rather than the
fact of elimination in a forbidden area). However, I'm convinced that with
no feedback Sammy would keep "going" on the linoleum with reckless abandon
for the rest of her life, so I'm prepared to risk being PI. I mean, how
stupid
a dog are we talking about here?--in the '50s and '60s, dogs understood
perfectly well what was meant by a tantrum over indoor elimination. I *do*
clean the area and apply "Simple Solution", an enzyme cleaner, so it isn't a
scent attraction I'm fighting here. I think it's stubborn-Beagle-itis,
combined with her tender age and not "getting" the concept of asking to go
out.
(We're also praising her outlandishly every time she poops or pees outside.)
Thanks for listening,
Leslie
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2193.4 | Bell training | 26031::ogodhcp-123-40-18.ogo.dec.com::CHAFFEE | | Tue May 20 1997 14:00 | 23 |
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The way we trained Kody was every hour or so during the
we go outside not inside stage we would ring the bell and
say Kody GO GO. We would even put his nose there and ring the
bell with his nose. We always use PLAY when we just going out for
playtime or WALK for times we are going on our walk. So, with
us GO GO means we are going out to do our business. He is very
scheduled now because he is crated, but he has been bell trained
since he was a couple months old. He trained very quick not to
use the inside as his toliet. At first I thought it was us that
were trained, opps its been an hour Kody must have to PEE or Kody
ate dinner an hour ago he must need to do his business but he
caught on. Now, he knows when he rings we run and he goes right to
his spot.
Good luck it is well worth the xtra work.
Regards,
Cyndi
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2193.5 | | NNTPD::"[email protected]" | Leslie Woolner | Wed May 21 1997 12:54 | 19 |
| Thanks for the reply! I'm not sure every hour would work for us, but we're
going to try to ring the bell every time we ask her to go outside. I think
she's getting it (a little); last night she nosed the bell, and though it
didn't really ring, I heard it and responded excitedly. We went out and she
did pee (a little; she didn't really have to go), and after letting her
sniff around for a while (part of the positive reinforcement), we came in.
Didn't she nose the bell again, almost immediately!
I suppose I should have taken her right back out again, but I knew she just
wanted to sniff around some more, so I told her we just *went* outside and
it's time to "go home" (our command for go back inside).
And I'm trying to register mostly disappointment (rather than anger) for the
inside "mistakes". I do a whining-dog imitation and that seems to make some
sense to her--she sits on her pillow with a more-worried-than-usual
expression!
Leslie
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2193.6 | puppy bladder not fully developed at 4 months | 40812::EDRY | If you think education's expensive, try ignorance | Thu May 22 1997 13:37 | 15 |
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RE: .3
A 4 month old puppys bladder is not sufficiently developed at that
age for them to always be able to control their elemination. BE
PATIENT and instead of getting angry when she does the wrong thing, try
to understand and anticipate "her schedule", then take her out BEFORE
she makes a mess indoors. Use a word such as "PEE" consistently
when/before she eliminates then when she does do the right thing,
PRAISE HER lavishly.
By 6 months of age things should be much better.
- Bob
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