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Title:Ask the Storage Architecture Group
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Created:Wed Oct 15 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6756
Total number of notes:25276

6754.0. "TL896 in VMS CI cluster" by BRLLNT::COLLINS () Thu Jun 05 1997 09:23

                                                                                   
    Hello,                                                                          
            We are about to sell 3 Tape Library Units to one of our most
    important  
    customers.                                                                      
                                                                                    
    The products in question are (3) TL896 Tape Libraries to be connected           
    to a VMS (CI)Cluster formed by two AlphaServer 8400 and an AlphaServer
    4100.    
                                                                                    
    The idea is to connect every tape transport unit to a different SCSI            
    controller. Hence, we would be using six (6) SCSI busses per tape
    library       
                                                                                    
    1) Is it possible to directly get to the SCSI of each transport of the          
       library to get higher performance ?   From reading the
    Customer/Sales        
       Updates, this is not clear...                                                
                                                                                    
    -
                                                                                 
    2) If this is possible, would the software(below detailed) be able to
    handle    
       the library from multiple SCSI controllers ? From different members
    of the   
       cluster ?                                                                    
                                                                                    
    3) Are there any restrictions in this type of configurations about
    where the    
       robot device (SCSI port?) should be attached ? (We are thinking of           
       connecting them to the HSJ controller attached to the CI)                    
                                                                                    
    4) If this kind of (multiple controllers for a single library)
    configuration    
       is supported, which is the controller card to be used ? The KZPSA is         
       shown as supported in the Sales Update for TL89x devices. But SLS
    won't      
       work with it (as described in SPD 29.67.16)                                  
                                                                                    
                                                                                    
    We're proposing SLS (V2.8A) to drive the tape libraries, and we're not
    quite    
    ---
    We're proposing SLS (V2.8A) to drive the tape libraries, and we're not
    quite    
    sure of how license policy applies to the cluster environment. Should
    we        
    sell one license for the cluster system (3 AlphaServers) or a license
    for       
    each Cluster member ?                                                           
                                                                                    
    Our customer is also considering HSM (for OpenVMS) and the same
    question        
    applies here...                                                                 
     
    Thank you 
    
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6754.1SSDEVO::ROLLOWDr. File System's Home for Wayward Inodes.Thu Jun 05 1997 11:1946

re: #1

	The question doesn't make sense.  If you're using one SCSI
	controller for each tape, then each is directly connect to
	that SCSI adapter.  Of course, you haven't said what SCSI
	controller you're using.  If you are using an HSJ to connect
	the tapes then no, it isn't connect directly to the host,
	since it is connected through an intermediate controller.
	Further the HSJ is a loss in this case since the drives are
	Fast/Wide SCSI and the HSJ backend busses aren't.  You want
	to use KZPSAs on the host.

	The problem, is that each host is probably limited to seeing
	the drives connected to it.  This may not be an issue, but
	it is worth noting so you know it might be one.  I don't know
	if OpenVMS supports serving of SCSI tapes across the cluster.
	Putting the tapes on a shared bus has its own problems.

re: 2

	SLS/MDMS recently tested a configuration where the tapes in a
	library were connected to different hosts.  I think they now
	support such a configuration.

	!! BUT !!!

	The library media changer has to be on a common bus, accessible 
	to each host running the software.  The only way to get the
	the media changer on that common bus is to put IT on an HSJ.
	Since the TL896 only has 6 bus connections, and you want one
	drive per bus, one drive will have to be on the HSJ with the
	attendant performance loss.  I think this answer #3.

re: 4

	You need to ask the SLS product manager why the KZPSA isn't
	supported.  They have done some testing with them, so I
	don't understand where the restriction would come from.
	I also haven't read the SPD to see exactly what the problem
	is.

re: Versions

	Verify that the version you plan to use supports the TZ89.