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Conference ssag::ask_ssag

Title:Ask the Storage Architecture Group
Notice:Check out our web page at http://www-starch.shr.dec.com
Moderator:SSAG::TERZAN
Created:Wed Oct 15 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6756
Total number of notes:25276

6721.0. "Problems with TZ87 being overwritten, not unloaded." by CSC32::DUNCAN () Tue May 27 1997 15:35

	I have a customer problem on a Prioris running NT V4.0 with SP2 and
	MS SQL V6.5 with SP2.  He has 14 RZ29's and a 55gb database.  The
	problem is that the customer is using SQL to dump his 55gb database
	from within SQL and the database fills the tape, the tape rewinds, and
	SQL begins writing over the previously recorded data.  It doesn't 
	do an unload at the end of the tape.  The tape drive being used in a
	TZ87 with firmware 9B3C.  Has anyone run across a problem like this?
	Thanks in advance.

	Bill Duncan

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6721.1SSDEVO::ROLLOWDr. File System's Home for Wayward Inodes.Wed May 28 1997 00:124
	If the application doesn't do a SCSI Unload as part of
	its rewind, then the drive is behaving as expected.  If
	the application does include a SCSI Unload, then something
	is wrong...
6721.2Also occurs in NT BackupCSC32::DUNCANWed May 28 1997 13:4213
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>	If the application doesn't do a SCSI Unload as part of
>	its rewind, then the drive is behaving as expected.  If
>	the application does include a SCSI Unload, then something
>	is wrong...

	We had the customer try using the TZ87 with the Windows NT OS and
	NT Backup and it failed in the same fashion.  It rewound the tape and
	started writing.  At this point I suspect a problem with hardware.

	Bill Duncan

6721.3SUBSYS::VIDIOT::PATENAUDEAsk your boss for ARRAY&#039;s...Wed May 28 1997 21:298
    
    Don't be so sure..
    
    As Alan said the app HAS TO do an unload. Some drives do this
    automatically some don't. The DLT family is the later. It's up to the
    APP to make sure the tape has/hasn't been swapped.
    
    roger.
6721.4netbk2.shr.dec.com::PetersThu May 29 1997 08:097

	The TZ87 has been tested and works with Windows NT
Backup. If this drive is having trouble it is broken.


			Steve Peters
6721.5Wrong assumption.SUBSYS::TRANStraight &lt;Left&gt; Hitter..Thu May 29 1997 16:236
    
    Backup driver assumes that the drive will spindown. There is a bit
    that can be set to do this but DIGITAL DLT tape drive doesn't set this
    bit. We've gone thru this drill before.
    
    T.