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Title:Ask the Storage Architecture Group
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Moderator:SSAG::TERZAN
Created:Wed Oct 15 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6756
Total number of notes:25276

6569.0. "RW500 family and Windows NT" by VAXRIO::ALCIDES (Alcides Rocha DC - Brazil) Wed Apr 09 1997 14:07

    I'm looking for information about our jukebox products (RW500) with
    Windows NT.
    What software product should be installed to use them under NT?
    
    Alcides
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6569.1LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionWed Apr 09 1997 14:5710
    There is no Digital product to do this today.
    
    A number of 3rd party products: Try U.S. Design, KOM, or any of the
    normal Optical SW vendors.
    
    We're off to the AIIM show next week - I may have a more complete list
    after the show.
    
    Chris
    
6569.2status from SMSTAPE::SENEKERHead banging causes brain mushWed Apr 09 1997 16:2417
Use of Digital RW500 products under NT is in a sad state of affairs
currently.  George (SUBSYS::) Pappas is tasked with attempting to develop
a Digital referal program for 3rd party software vendors that will support
the use of RW500 jukeboxes on Alpha's running NT.

Currently products from Cheyenne, distributed by U.S. Design, KOM, and
OTG are being evaluated.  Others such as Tracer, Excalibur, Qstar, Acorn
and Pegasus have been considered but either do not have a product, do
not support Alpha NT, or do not support the RW500 product family.

As Chris mentioned, after the show we may have more products to evaluate.

George is responsible person in storage in seeing whatever direction
Digital takes in pushing the RW500 product line usage under Alpha NT.
You may wish to contact him.

Rob Seneker (OSDS/OSMS OpenVMS guy)
6569.3ThanksVAXRIO::ALCIDESAlcides Rocha DC - BrazilThu Apr 10 1997 07:141
    Thanks for the replies
6569.4Is this where its been hiding out...CSC32::S_WASKEWICZThu Apr 10 1997 16:5412
    
         I've sent numerous mail messages to the product manager on
    this subject with no responses, and now I know why.
    Not to pour salt on an open wound, but we've been asking about this
    for better than two years now, as we have been shipping several
    versions of NT on all Alpha platforms.
     It appears, based on previous replies, that we are no closer to a 
    solution for running our optical libraries. Its a shame how many 
    times I've had to tell people that we can't run em on NT. yet.
    Oh well...
    	"Windows NT across the enterprise" and all that 1-3-9 hoopla 
        
6569.5LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionFri Apr 11 1997 08:288
    You're preaching to the choir
    
    If you've got any constuctive ideas to help fix this, fire away.
    
    Product management controls the development $.
    
    Chris
    
6569.6not quite gospel...KAPTIN::BLEILarry Bleiweiss 237-6080 SHR3-2/X17Sun Apr 13 1997 08:228
>    Product management controls the development $.
>    
>    Chris
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	Boy do I wish this was true!    

Larry
Product Management, Mgr
6569.7LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionThu Apr 17 1997 09:3316
    They control it more than engineering does....
    
    Basically, it's veto power. In the case above, product management has
    been vetoing the development by inaction and disinterest. Marketing has
    been no better. 
    
    ...And the customers get left out in the cold. Again.
    
    It's a self-fullfilling prophecy - They don't believe in the market,
    they do nothing, and the product dies. And we wonder why Digital can't
    make money.
    
    I'll be happy to continue this discussion offline.
    
    Chris
    
6569.8tommorrow on "As Digital Turns"TAPE::SENEKERHead banging causes brain mushThu Apr 17 1997 16:072
    But Chris, it is so much more interesting for the rest of us to
    listen in on if you stay here.....
6569.9LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionThu Apr 17 1997 16:368
    I don't think it would be particularly productive....
    
    Interesting, but not productive...
    
    Sigh.
    
    Chris