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Conference helix::vaxeln

Title:VAXELN
Notice:Support - 2.*; Kits - 3.*
Moderator:HELIX::MIANOLO
Created:Fri Feb 08 1991
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:770
Total number of notes:2721

764.0. "VAXELN not booting from DECnet/OSI" by GIDDAY::CHONG (Andrew Chong - Sydney CSC) Wed Feb 12 1997 00:22

    
A machine running ELN has an image SYSBOOT.EXE on its system disk.  Under
phase IV DECNET, issuing a NCP TRIGGER nodename caused the system to boot
SYSBOOT.EXE from its default boot device.  This is the expected behaviour.

Under phase V decnet, we expect issuing a NCL BOOT MOP CLIENT nodename to
perform the same action.  However, issuing this command leaves the target
system at the console prompt.

The only difference between the PhaseIV and DECnet/OSI inituiated boot is 
that the DEcnet/OSI system sends MOP V4 in IEEE802.3 format first before 
sending a MOP V3 Ethernet boot packet. 

Does anyone have a workaround for this problem ?

Andrew/

	Cross posted in HELP::DECNET-OSI_FOR_VMS
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Attached are the lan capture of the phaseIV and phaseV mop boot packes.

>ETHERNET: Source address : AA0004000704 is a VMS 5.5-2 phase IV host
>ETHERNET: Source address : AA0004005E05 is a VMS 7.1 phase V host   
>(decnet+ V7.1)
>
>Network Monitor trace  Wed 02/12/97 14:32:31  MOP1.TXT
>
>**************************************************************************  
>**************************************************************************  
>*******
>Frame   Time    Src MAC Addr   Dst MAC Addr   Protocol  Description   
>                                                      Src Other Addr  Dst   
>Other Addr  Type Other Addr
>2       11.687  AA0004000704   DEC   9E8C5E   ETHERNET  ETYPE = 0x6002 :   
>Protocol = MOP: DEC Maintenance Operation Protoc   
>                                   
>
>
>+ FRAME: Base frame properties
>  ETHERNET: ETYPE = 0x6002 : Protocol = MOP: DEC Maintenance Operation   
>Protocol
>    + ETHERNET: Destination address : 08002B9E8C5E
>    + ETHERNET: Source address : AA0004000704
>      ETHERNET: Frame Length : 60 (0x003C)
>      ETHERNET: Ethernet Type : 0x6002 (MOP: DEC Maintenance Operation   
>Protocol)
>      ETHERNET: Ethernet Data: Number of data bytes remaining = 46   
>(0x002E)
>
>00000:  08 00 2B 9E 8C 5E AA 00 04 00 07 04 60 02 0C 00   
>  ..+..^......`...
>00010:  06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00   
>  ................
>00020:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   
>  ................
>00030:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00               ............   
>     
>
>
>
>
>Network Monitor trace  Wed 02/12/97 14:32:59  MOP1a.TXT
>
>**************************************************************************  
>**************************************************************************  
>*******
>Frame   Time    Src MAC Addr   Dst MAC Addr   Protocol  Description   
>                                                      Src Other Addr  Dst   
>Other Addr  Type Other Addr
>6       60.584  AA0004005E05   DEC   9E8C5E   SNAP      ETYPE = 0x6002   
>                                                                            
>            
>
>
>+ FRAME: Base frame properties
>  ETHERNET: 802.3 Length = 60
>    + ETHERNET: Destination address : 08002B9E8C5E
>    + ETHERNET: Source address : AA0004005E05
>      ETHERNET: Frame Length : 60 (0x003C)
>      ETHERNET: Data Length : 0x0014 (20)
>      ETHERNET: Ethernet Data: Number of data bytes remaining = 46   
>(0x002E)
>+ LLC: UI DSAP=0xAA SSAP=0xAA C
>  SNAP: ETYPE = 0x6002
>      SNAP: Snap Organization code = 08 00 2B
>      SNAP: Snap etype : 0x6002
>      SNAP: Snap Data: Number of data bytes remaining = 38 (0x0026)
>
>00000:  08 00 2B 9E 8C 5E AA 00 04 00 5E 05 00 14 AA AA   
>  ..+..^....^.....
>00010:  03 08 00 2B 60 02 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   
>  ...+`...........
>00020:  00 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   
>  ................
>00030:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00               ............   
>     
>
>
>**************************************************************************  
>**************************************************************************  
>*******
>Frame   Time    Src MAC Addr   Dst MAC Addr   Protocol  Description   
>                                                      Src Other Addr  Dst   
>Other Addr  Type Other Addr
>7       60.584  AA0004005E05   DEC   9E8C5E   ETHERNET  ETYPE = 0x6002 :   
>Protocol = MOP: DEC Maintenance Operation Protoc   
>                                   
>
>
>+ FRAME: Base frame properties
>  ETHERNET: ETYPE = 0x6002 : Protocol = MOP: DEC Maintenance Operation   
>Protocol
>    + ETHERNET: Destination address : 08002B9E8C5E
>    + ETHERNET: Source address : AA0004005E05
>      ETHERNET: Frame Length : 60 (0x003C)
>      ETHERNET: Ethernet Type : 0x6002 (MOP: DEC Maintenance Operation   
>Protocol)
>      ETHERNET: Ethernet Data: Number of data bytes remaining = 46   
>(0x002E)
>
>00000:  08 00 2B 9E 8C 5E AA 00 04 00 5E 05 60 02 0C 00   
>  ..+..^....^.`...
>00010:  06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00   
>  ................
>00020:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   
>  ................
>00030:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00               ............   
>     
>
>
>**************************************************************************  
>**************************  
>
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764.1what is the target?ZYDECO::BODARealtime Expertise CenterWed Feb 12 1997 10:1310
Andrew -

   What is the target CPU?  If it is a KAV30, there have been changes made
to the KAV30 firmware so it will accomodate MOP V4 boot protocol.  
This was introduced for KAV30 Rev C02.  If this is the case, please
see the KAV30 notesfile note #137.4  (CSSVMS::KAV30)

Regards,

Alan 
764.2KA55AGIDDAY::CHONGAndrew Chong - Sydney CSCSat Feb 15 1997 07:022
    
    The target cpu is KA55-A at firmware level v2.6
764.3VAXELN version?ZYDECO::BODARealtime Expertise CenterTue Feb 18 1997 13:5614
Andrew,

VAXELN V4.5 added support for MOP V4.0.0.  Support for the KA55 in a 3100-85 
was latent for V4.5 so I doubt you are using a VAXELN version prior to V4.5.
VAXELN never introduced support for Phase V DECnet/OSI.  But I agree it
is a bit strange that it sees the trigger, but simply drops to the console
prompt.

I do not have a network with DECnet/OSI to test.  Perhaps VAXELN engineering
may have some additional thoughts.

Regards,

Alan