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Conference vmszoo::catholic-theology

Title:Catholic Theology
Notice:Catechism is HERE! See 1145.14
Moderator:PATE::COTE
Created:Wed Jan 28 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1432
Total number of notes:15553

1411.0. "TRUTH CANNOT CONTRADICT TRUTH - Evolution" by PATE::COTE (Dave Cote, Hudson,MA.USA dtn 225-4166) Fri Oct 25 1996 11:06

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1411.1POPE YIELDS TO THEORIES ON EVOLUTIONPATE::COTEDave Cote, Hudson,MA.USA dtn 225-4166Fri Oct 25 1996 11:0723
1411.2Devolution of truthPATE::COTEDave Cote, Hudson,MA.USA dtn 225-4166Fri Oct 25 1996 11:1214
1411.3Adam, Eve, and Evolution from Catholic AnswersPATE::COTEDave Cote, Hudson,MA.USA dtn 225-4166Fri Oct 25 1996 11:19272
1411.4COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Oct 29 1996 10:4973
1411.5thanksOSITEL::BRITTAINPeter, TOEM support Munich @RTO 865-3102Tue Oct 29 1996 11:463
1411.6COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Oct 31 1996 08:37190
1411.7May the Holy Spirit expose the theory of evolution in the eyes of those who love Jesus!RTOOF::CSO_SUPPORTMon Mar 03 1997 10:43101
    Hello John, Dave,
    
    Having been raised active in trying to strengthen the acceptance of
    evolution (I was then an athiest), I experienced God's grace and became
    a disciple of Jesus. I had been involved in this theory from my youth.
    At the age of 14 I won the First place grand prize in the bay area
    science fair in the research of the effects of drugs on chromosomes
    (1968). My father, a microbiologist, helped me im my research.
    
    To make things short, after my experience with Jesus I was still
    convinced of evolution, yet I chose to believe the bible more than that
    which I had been taught my whole life. Otherwise I could have never
    become a disciple of Jesus. 
    
    Jesus told us that we would be led by the Holy Spirit into all truth.
    Not only did the Holy Spirit fill my life, give me gifts, help me in my
    understanding of the Bible, but the Holy Spirit also exposed the many
    layers of lies whereby I and the majority of people in the world are
    deceived. My belief in Evolution was broken by the light of the Holy
    Spirit, the Spirit of truth. 
    
    I have written a paper of about 50 pages where I talk about many of
    the lies which only after time were clear to me.
    
    I can still remember being in a biology class and talking about
    mutations. I was talking to the teacher. We were both convinced that
    the theory was true. And yet, as we talked about mutations, it was
    clear to both of us that they were fully incapable of creating the
    fullness of life which we see. Just as a person shooting bullets into a
    computer program and hoping something better would result from this, so
    was the futility of randomly developing chromosomes. And yet that was
    my area of research!
    
    Back then I chose to believe it was possible, not because it was
    logical to believe something like this, but rather because I was
    convinced there was no God, and therefore there was no other answer to
    the origin of life which seemed at all realistic in view of the
    scientific knowledge accumulated. After choosing to believe this, which
    was absurd and against all reason, I learned that I could reconcile
    anything facts to somehow fit into the theory of evolution. But
    everything became more theoretical and abstract. This is the road much
    of the scientific world has taken and it has come, not from men like
    Isaac Newton, but rather theorists, who need nothing truly scientific
    as evidence to begin a new theory. But let us be aware, a theory can
    only be as strong as the different hypotheses on which it is based.
    
    Today, most people who believe the theory of evolution are not even
    aware of the hypotheses on which the theory is based. 
    
    1. Did life evolve out of matter? Even if every molecule of a cell were
    to be placed exactly where it were needed, the greatest achievement
    non-living matter could ever reach would be that of a dead cell.
    
    2. Does Nature teach us, that the development of new genes (additional
    chromosomal 'programing code'), which is at the basis of the theory of
    evolution, are happening, and at such a rate, that the fullness of
    living organisms we see today resulted from them?
    
    3. Can we see throughout the fossil record these intermediate steps of
    development?
    
    To each of these and many more hypotheses we can give a 'yes' only if
    we do that which I had done for so long, try to fit everything into
    this theory. But if you let the results of observance and scientific
    research mould your belief, instead of doing the opposite, you will
    have a completely different picture of reality as the evolutionists are
    telling us.
    
    You don't need to belong to those involved in Creation Research to
    realise that most of the theories which rob today's scientists of much
    of their time and cause them to become narrow visioned are based on
    speculation, but are not scientific discoveries.
    
    From personal experience, when you believe a lie, the truth appears to
    be lie, and the lie appears to be the truth. Through evolution I
    despised christianity in my heart and believed it to be lies, made to
    give people hope where I khew (so I thought) there was no hope.
    
    Evolution is the religion of the athiest of today. It is his God, by
    which all things were created. And if you believe in this God, you will
    find that you will doubt the true God and his words more and more,
    unless, of course, by divine intervention, the Holy Spirit reveals the
    lies.
    
    Yet as Paul says, we know that the whole world lies in the lap of the
    devil and has blinded the eyes of those who do not believe the gospel
    of salvation. And, as we all know, our adversary is the father of lies
    and, being in nature as a snake, named the devil (diablos, two tongued)
    has deceived the whole world. Let us fight the fight of faith, that he
    be overcome!
    
    And he was cast down, the great dragon, the old snake, named the devel
    and satan and who had deceived the whole world... And they overcame him
    by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony, and they
    loved not their lives unto death. Rev.12:9-11
    
    Rodger Dusatko
    
     
    
    
1411.8Another pointer pleaseOSITEL::BRITTAINPeter, TOEM support Munich @RTO 865-3102Wed Mar 05 1997 12:0110
>    I have written a paper of about 50 pages where I talk about many of
>    the lies which only after time were clear to me.
>    
     Welcome back, Rodger !

     I'd be interested in reading this. Can you give us a pointer, please.


     -pb