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Conference giadev::decstation

Title:DECstation PC Conference
Notice:register note 2, see notes 3 & 4
Moderator:TARKIN::LININD
Created:Tue Jan 10 1989
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:7470
Total number of notes:34994

7363.0. "Celebris GL 5133 ST upgrade question ..." by LEXS01::lexser6.lex.dec.com::lombardi (PCBU Technical Support) Sun Feb 23 1997 20:01

I have a customer who has a Celebris GL 5133 ST. He has the 
following questions regarding an upgrade.

Is it possible with the current BIOS (1.03) on the Celebris GL 5133 
ST, to upgrade to a 200mhz MMX socket 7 CPU. 

If so, then:

1.) Where would you get the CPU.
2.) What jumpers settings changes need to be made on the     
    motherboard to accomodate the new clock speed.


Thanks in advance,

 ...chuck

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7363.1PCBUOA::KRATZMon Feb 24 1997 12:435
    The Celebris GL 5xxx can't use Pentium with MMX technology
    until Intel comes out with a Overdrive solution.  You can
    bump up to a "regular" 200Mhz Pentium, however (even tho
    there never really was a Celebris GL 5200).
    K
7363.2more info ...LEXS01::lexser8.lex.dec.com::lombardiPCBU Technical SupportTue Feb 25 1997 06:505
Is there a part # for the 200 mhz CPU (e.g. DT-xxxxx). And also, what jumpers need to be changed 
on the motherboard to allow you to realize the 200 mhz clock speed.


Thanks in advance,
7363.3WRKSYS::mccasa.eng.pko.dec.com::DUTTONThere once was a note, pure and easy...Mon Apr 14 1997 14:264
Can an AMD K6 be installed in a Celebrix 5xxx series,
or is this another "need an overdrive version" case?
(or maybe "need a new bios?" :)

7363.4QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Apr 14 1997 14:294
AMD does not suggest the use of the K6 as a "Pentium upgrade".  It requires
specific BIOS support, which I'm sure the Celebris 5xxx series doesn't have.

				Steve
7363.5DABEAN::REAUMEhttp://www.dreamscape.com/johnreaWed Apr 16 1997 17:3819
      The main concern with CPU upgrade (besides pin compatibility) is the
    voltage issue and the system clock speed coupled with the core/bus
    ratio. Even though the GL came with the P7 socket, it was designed
    before the MMX Pentium (which has a 2.8 v core voltage and 3.3 v I/O).
     
     As far as I can see the P5 200 Pentium should work if:
    
      1) set sys clock to  66.6 MHZ - jumper J36 and J40 both ON  
    	
      2) set core/bus freq to 3/1 - jumper J41 off and J48 ON 
    
     Obviously an upgrade from P133 or less to a P200 would show some
    improvement, but you have to keep in mind that it would not be a 50%
    increase as clock speed would lead you to believe. Too many other
    factors come into play. I would still say that adding memory is the
    cheapest way to boost perfomance.
    
    							-John R