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Title:DISK_IDEAS
Notice:Conference has moved to SSDEVO::Disk_Ideas
Moderator:SSDEVO::FIALALL
Created:Mon Apr 25 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 13 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:308
Total number of notes:1025

308.0. "%comp, compare error in RF74" by DEKVC::YONGHOKIM () Tue Apr 29 1997 03:25

    Hi ...
     
    My customer has some RF74 disks .(whithin SF100)
    
    vax7640(two kfmsa) useing three dssi bus with vax4300.(useing two kfqsa)
    
    
    Problem has been occured one month ago.
    Hundres of error increased in a day. 
    Error type is "%comp, compare error".
    I have  replaced  RF74-EA (whole drive) & kfmsa controller but same 
    problem occured.
    
    What's the mean of "%comp, compare error"
    
    Please help me how I can fix it...
    
    y.h kim
    
    
                                                    
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308.1analysis of errors would help.SSDEVO::MARTENSQualification Program ManagerWed Apr 30 1997 12:2713
    This could be many causes. The error log should help understand if
    all errors are for a single block, file, area, or random. Is this
    error a drive memory error, or a failure during the MSCP compare
    function. If the I/O does not have a compare qualifier, then it
    is a drive issue. IF the error is a failure of a MSCP data compare
    with disk data and host data, it is possible that the host data
    is changing before the compare completes. This has been seen with
    third party defrag tools, and other third party code.
    
    reviewing the errors logs is a good place to start.
    
    Bert
    
308.2errorlog of compare errorDEKVC::YONGHOKIMTue May 06 1997 02:11363
	Hi.
    This is errorlog file of my customer. (%compare error)
    Please help me.
    
    
    
    
    
sh dev d

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$1$DIA0:     (SYSDSK0)  ����Ʈ��             0  SV7600SYS       829160  1424   2

$1$DIA1:     (SYSDSK1)  ����Ʈ��             0  SV4300SYS       449740    19   2

$1$DIA2:     (OADISK1)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK01      787456    39   2

$1$DIA3:     (OADISK2)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK02      336220    14   2

$1$DIA4:     (OADISK3)  ����Ʈ��             2  USERPACK03       65527  1312   2

$1$DIA5:     (OADISK4)  ����Ʈ��          1282  USERPACK04     1142802    49   2

$1$DIA6:     (OADISK5)  ����Ʈ��           241  USERPACK05      497448   369   2

$1$DIA7:     (OADISK6)  ����Ʈ��          1735  USERPACK06      917512   416   2

$1$DIA8:     (OADISK7)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK07     1699167   178   2

$1$DIA9:     (OADISK8)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK08     1562553   247   2

$1$DIA10:    (OADISK9)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK09     2345625   171   2

$1$DIA11:   (OADISK10)  ����Ʈ��            40  USERPACK10      441064    35   2

$1$DIA12:   (SCSIDISK)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK11     1234676   164   2

$1$DIA13:   (SCSIDISK)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK12     1787788     1   2

$1$DIA14:   (SCSIDISK)  ����Ʈ��             2  USERPACK13      946056     2   2

$1$DIA15:   (SCSIDISK)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK14     1442384     5   2

$1$DIA16:   (SCSIDISK)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK15     1396076    28   2

$1$DIA17:       (HSD2)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK16      612936    88   2

$1$DIA18:       (HSD2)  ����Ʈ��             1  USERPACK17     1538541    39   2

$1$DIA19:       (HSD2)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK18     1729413     3   2

$1$DIA20:       (HSD2)  ����Ʈ��             0  USERPACK19     4659327     4   2

$1$DIA21:       (HSD2)  �¶��               0
$2$DIA1:      (SV4301)  ����Ʈ��             0  SV4301SYS       428216     1   2

$ anal/err/since=yesterday/inc=dia5/out=disk.lis

Error Log Report Generator					Version V5.5   

$ TY DISK.LIS

 ******************************* ENTRY   73571. *******************************
 ERROR SEQUENCE 26446.                           LOGGED ON:        SID 17000202
 DATE/TIME  6-MAY-1997 12:41:17.99                            SYS_TYPE 01030001
 SYSTEM UPTIME: 7 DAYS 15:16:38
 SCS NODE: SV7600                                              VAX/VMS V5.5-2

 "UNKNOWN DEVICE" ENTRY KA7AA-AA  CPU FW REV# 2.  CONSOLE FW REV# 0.3

 ERROR LOG RECORD

       ERF$L_SID       17000202
                                       SYSTEM ID REGISTER
       ERL$W_ENTRY         0064
                                       ERROR ENTRY TYPE
       EXE$GQ_SYSTIME  419CA460
                       009B3DA3        64 BIT TIME WHEN ERROR LOGGED
       ERL$GL_SEQUENCE     674E
                                       UNIQUE ERROR SEQUENCE = 26446.

       BYTE <3:0>      00003402        /.4../
       BYTE <7:4>      38465409        /.TF8/
       BYTE <11:8>     4D243736        /67$M/
       BYTE <15:12>    54094149        /IA.T/
       BYTE <19:16>    37363846        /F867/
       BYTE <23:20>    41494D24        /$MIA/
       BYTE <27:24>    7B010000        /...{/
       BYTE <31:28>    37565308        /.SV7/
       BYTE <35:32>    20303036        /600 /
       BYTE <39:36>    00000002        /..../
       BYTE <43:40>    00000000        /..../
       BYTE <47:44>    800A0012        /..../
       BYTE <51:48>    B80C0157        /W..�/
       BYTE <55:52>    42000022        /"..B/
       BYTE <59:56>    0004016E        /n.../
       BYTE <63:60>    FF440001        /..D./
       BYTE <67:64>    5A47017E        /~.GZ/
       BYTE <71:68>    00430315        /..C./
       BYTE <75:72>    00000000        /..../
       BYTE <79:76>    00000000        /..../
       BYTE <83:80>    001A0205        /..../
       BYTE <87:84>    C19A0000        /...�/
       BYTE <91:88>    000100C6        /�.../
       BYTE <95:92>    01010000        /..../
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       BYTE <103:100>  80808B89        /..../
       BYTE <107:104>  90808080        /..../
       BYTE <111:108>  14B50481        /..�./
       BYTE <115:112>  00000000        /..../
       BYTE <119:116>  00000000        /..../
       BYTE <123:120>  00000000        /..../
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                                                                      PAGE   1.

 ******************************* ENTRY   73257. *******************************
 ERROR SEQUENCE 26001.                           LOGGED ON:        SID 17000202
 DATE/TIME  5-MAY-1997 11:33:47.87                            SYS_TYPE 01030001
 SYSTEM UPTIME: 6 DAYS 14:09:07
 SCS NODE: SV7600                                              VAX/VMS V5.5-2

 ERL$LOGMESSAGE ENTRY KA7AA-AA  CPU FW REV# 2.  CONSOLE FW REV# 0.3

 I/O SUB-SYSTEM, UNIT _OADISK4$DIA5:

       MESSAGE TYPE        0001
                                       DISK MSCP MESSAGE
       MSLG$L_CMD_REF  1C0B002E
       MSLG$W_UNIT         0005
                                       UNIT #5.
       MSLG$W_SEQ_NUM      044A
                                       SEQUENCE #1098.
       MSLG$B_FORMAT         04
                                       SMALL DISK LOG
       MSLG$B_FLAGS          00
                                       UNRECOVERABLE ERROR
       MSLG$W_EVENT        0007
                                       COMPARE ERROR
       MSLG$Q_CNT_ID   32707567
                       016D4183
                                       UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, 418332707567(X)
                                       MASS STORAGE CONTROLLER
                                       MODEL = 109.
       MSLG$B_CNT_SVR        1B
                                       CONTROLLER SOFT�WARE VERSION #27.
       MSLG$B_CNT_HVR        01
                                       CONTROLLER HARDWARE REVISION #1.
       MSLG$W_MULT_UNT     0000
       MSLG$Q_UNIT_ID  32707567
                       02364183
                                       UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, 418332707567(X)
                                       DISK CLASS DEVICE (166)
                                       MODEL = 54.
       MSLG$B_UNIT_SVR       1B
                                       UNIT SOFTWARE VERSION #27.
       MSLG$B_UNIT_HVR       01
                                       UNIT HARDWARE REVISION #1.
       MSLG$W_SDE_CYL      039F
       MSLG$L_VOL_SER  74555431
                                       VOLUME SERIAL #1951749169.

 CONTROLLER DEPENDENT INFORMATION

       LONGWORD 1.     08421114
                                       /..B./
       LONGWORD 2.     0022AD7F
                                       /.�"./
       LONGWORD 3.     00080056
                                       /V.../
       LONGWORD 4.     0000C098
                                       /.�../













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 ******************************* ENTRY   73258. *******************************
 ERROR SEQUENCE 26002.                           LOGGED ON:        SID 17000202
 DATE/TIME  5-MAY-1997 11:34:54.92                            SYS_TYPE 01030001
 SYSTEM UPTIME: 6 DAYS 14:10:15
 SCS NODE: SV7600                                              VAX/VMS V5.5-2

 ERL$LOGMESSAGE ENTRY KA7AA-AA  CPU FW REV# 2.  CONSOLE FW REV# 0.3

 I/O SUB-SYSTEM, UNIT _OADISK4$DIA5:

       MESSAGE TYPE        00
       MSLG$W_MULT_UNT     0000
       MSLG$Q_UNIT_ID  32707567
                       02364183
                                       UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, 418332707567(X)
                                       DISK CLASS DEVICE (166)
                                       MODEL = 54.
       MSLG$B_UNIT_SVR       1B
                                       UNIT SOFTWARE VERSION #27.
       MSLG$B_UNIT_HVR       01
                                       UNIT HARDWARE REVISION #1.
       MSLG$W_SDE_CYL      039F
       MSLG$L_VOL_SER  74555431
                                       VOLUME SERIAL #1951749169.

 CONTROLLER DEPENDENT INFORMATION

       LONGWORD 1.     08421114
                                       /..B./
       LONGWORD 2.     0022AD7F
                                       /.�"./
       LONGWORD 3.     00080056
                                       /V.../
       LONGWORD 4.     0000C098
                                       /.�../













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       LONGWORD 5.     00000000
                                       /..../



















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                                                                      PAGE   5.

 ******************************* ENTRY   73259. *******************************
 ERROR SEQUENCE 26003.                           LOGGED ON:        SID 17000202
 DATE/TIME  5-MAY-1997 11:35:10.71                            SYS_TYPE 01030001
 SYSTEM UPTIME: 6 DAYS 14:10:30
 SCS NODE: SV7600                                              VAX/VMS V5.5-2

 ERL$LOGMESSAGE ENTRY KA7AA-AA  CPU FW REV# 2.  CONSOLE FW REV# 0.3

 I/O SUB-SYSTEM, UNIT _OADISK4$DIA5:

       MESSAGE TYPE        0001
                                       DISK MSCP MESSAGE
       MSLG$L_CMD_REF  EEBE003E
       MSLG$W_UNIT         0005
                                       UNIT #5.
       MSLG$W_SEQ_NUM      044C
                                       SEQUENCE #1100.
       MSLG$B_FORMAT         04
                                       SMALL DISK LOG
       MSLG$B_FLAGS          00
                                       UNRECOVERABLE ERROR
       MSLG$W_EVENT        0007
                                       COMPARE ERROR
       MSLG$Q_CNT_ID   32707567
                       016D4183
                                       UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, 418332707567(X)
                                       MASS STORAGE CONTROLLER
                                       MODEL = 109.
       MSLG$B_CNT_SVR        1B
                                       CONTROLLER SOFTWARE VERSION #27.
       MSLG$B_CNT_HVR        01
                                       CONTROLLER HARDWARE REVISION #1.
       MSLG$W_MULT_UNT     0000
       MSLG$Q_UNIT_ID  32707567
                       02364183
                                       UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, 418332707567(X)
                                       DISK CLASS DEVICE (166)
                                       MODEL = 54.
       MSLG$B_UNIT_SVR       1B
                                       UNIT SOFTWARE VERSION #27.
       MSLG$B_UNIT_HVR       01
                                       UNIT HARDWARE REVISION #1.
       MSLG$W_SDE_CYL      039F
       MSLG$L_VOL_SER  74555431
                                       VOLUME SERIAL #1951749169.

 CONTROLLER DEPENDENT INFORMATION

       LONGWORD 1.     08421114
                                       /..B./
       LONGWORD 2.     0022AD7F
                                       /.�"./
       LONGWORD 3.     00080056
                                       /V.../
       LONGWORD 4.     0000C098
                                       /.�../













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                                       /..../



















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 ******************************* ENTRY   73260. *******************************
 ERROR SEQUENCE 26004.                           LOGGED ON:        SID 17000202
 DATE/TIME  5-MAY-1997 11:35:32.49                            SYS_TYPE 01030001
 SYSTEM UPTIME: 6 DAYS 14:10:52
 SCS NODE: SV7600                                              VAX/VMS V5.5-2

 ERL$LOGMESSAGE ENTRY KA7AA-AA  CPU FW REV# 2.  CONSOLE FW REV# 0.3

 I/O SUB-SYSTEM, UNIT _OADISK4$DIA5:

       MESSAGE TYPE        0001
                                       DISK MSCP MESSAGE
       MSLG$L_CMD_REF  9B6E0054
       MSLG$W_UNIT         0005
                                       UNIT #5.
       MSLG$W_SEQ_NUM      044D
                                       SEQUENCE #1101.
       MSLG$B_FORMAT         04
                                       SMALL DISK LOG
       MSLG$B_FLAGS          00
                                       UNRECOVERABLE ERROR
       MSLG$W_EVENT        0007
                                       COMPARE ERROR
       MSLG$Q_CNT_ID   32707567
                       016D4183
                                       UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, 418332707567(X)
                                       MASS STORAGE CONTROLLER
                                       MODEL = 109.
       MSLG$B_CNT_SVR        1B
                                       CONTROLLER SOFTWARE VERSION #27.
       MSLG$B_CNT_HVR        01
                                       CONTROLLER HARDWARE REVISION #1.
       MSLG$W_MULT_UNT     0000
       MSLG$Q_UNIT_ID  32707567
                       02364183
                                       UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, 418332707567(X)
                                       DISK CLASS DEVICE (166)
                                       MODEL = 54.
       MSLG$B_UNIT_SVR       1B
                                       UNIT SOFTWARE VERSION #27.
       MSLG$B_UNIT_HVR       01
                                       UNIT HARDWARE REVISION #1.
       MSLG$W_SDE_CYL      039F
       MSLG$L_VOL_SER  74555431
                                       VOLUME SERIAL #1951749169.

 CONTROLLER DEPENDENT INFORMATION

       LONGWORD 1.     08421114
                                       /..B./
       LONGWORD 2.     0022AD7F
                                       /.�"./
       LONGWORD 3.     00080056
                                       /V.../
       LONGWORD 4.     0000C098
                                       /.�../













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                                       /..../
                   
308.3what were you doing at the time?SUBSYS::VIDIOT::PATENAUDEAsk your boss for ARRAY&#039;s...Tue May 13 1997 09:2033
   If you mounted the drive with DATA_CHECK READ enabled, OR when running
   applications which issue QIO's with the DATA_CHECK modifier. You will
   notice Compare errors are logged. It is important to note that no user
   data, is lost or corrupted. What you describe is NORMAL behavior on any
   DSSI device.

   This is due to the fact that MSCP does not require a READ and COMPAREs
   to be executed as an atomic operation!

   This is also aggravated by disk defragmenting programs, lots of disk I/O 
   with small files. The problem may also be demonstrated using some programs   
   that exercise a few blocks without using any type of locking (EX: QIO's vs.  
   QIOW's). Replacing hardware will NOT FIX this.

   Does the Customer run any defrag programs while useing the device for work?

   Is the drive mounted or init'd with DATA=WRITE or DATA=READ (or both)?

   If the answer to either of the above questions is YES, then what you are     
   seeing is NORMAL expected behavior.

   If the answer is NO, then;

   What did you do to recreate this?

   Was any hardware replaced?

   Do you have any better errorlog analysis tools? (DECevent or SWEAT or FSTerr)

   Can you move the errorlog.sys file to a system with a better analysis tool   
   than VMS 5.5?

   Roger.