Conference hbahba::cam_sports

why not:

	Dallas 30 - Kansas City 10

    
    
       OAK  34     GB  20
    
    
    Sweet revenge..

    Green Bay over Miami, 38-20.

    San Francisco 27, Buffalo 24 in OT.
    
    NAZZ

Green Bay 38, Kansas City 16

      Green Bay 31  Buffalo 17
    
      Tim

    
    
    Muffin.....  BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    
    Hey Chap,  Your a Yankees fan how can you be a Paties fan??
    
    /westy
    

    
    
       And now some Super Bowl Trivia. Put your answers behind a Form Feed
    and no books or On_line help!!
    
      All trivia includes SB 1-31.
    
    
     1. How many times have teams played in ther SB representing the Same
    State. Ex Miami Vs TB... Name the teams?
    
     2. How many Times have teams with the same starting letter in there team
    played each other in the SB? EX BILLS/Broncos.  NAME THEM?
    
     3. What Player(s) have won the most SB MVP's?
    
     4. Which team(s) has lost the most SB's?444
    
     5. Which team(s) has won the most? 
    
     6. Which team has lost the most AFC Championship games?
    
     7. Which team has lost the most NFC Championship Games?
    
     8. With the current Divisional Lineups. Which division has sent the
    most teams to the SB? The Least Teams? And How many?
    
     9. How many of the current 30 teams have never been to a SB?
    
     10. Name the First Defensive player to win SB MVP? The last Def.player
    to win SB MVP?
    
     11. How many players on losing teams have won the SB MVP?
    
     12. Name the only team(s) with 5 losses in the year to win a SB? What
    SB(S)?
    
     13. What was the least amount of pts scored in a SB? By which two
    teams?
    
     14 Most Pts scored in a SB? By which to teams?
    
     15. Out of the current 30 teams How many teams have won a SB?
    
    1-5 Right  Your a Maiewski.
    6-10 Right your a Wagamain
    10-14 Your a Brydie
    15. Your a Sports God (JAKE)  :-)
    
    
    Chap
    

    
    
       I'm not!
    
      I'm a Raider fan.
    
       Just rootin for da Pats in dids here SB!!

    
    I'm a GIANTS fan, but I'm all NFC,  I've got my Farve shirt and my
    cheesehead on, wow I'm getting more shit today than I did when I wore
    all my Yankee attire for the World Series......
    
    But what the heck, all in FUN!!!  Love the hype!!!!  
    
    /Westy!!!!!
    
    

  No Swiss Cheese for me this weekend, it's strictly Choudah and Lobstah.

  SQUEEZE THE CHEESE!!!

  GO PATS!!!
  George

    
    >> I've got my Farve shirt and my cheesehead on, wow I'm getting 
    >> more shit today than I did when I wore all my Yankee attire for 
    >> the World Series......
    
       And po' po' Kev never expected any flap either time. Just a 
       little innocent our Kev is.    
    
    

    
    I'm having fun.......
    
    wonderful day,   If the PACK wins I'll eat free for a week!!  
    
    If the Pats win,  I'll be starving......
    
    

    NFC Rules
    
    GB 35
    
    NE 15
    
    Close the 1st half, GB takes over in the 2nd.
    
    Oh yeah, great basketball game on at 1:00 pm on Super Sunday.
    
    UMDan

    
     1. How many times have teams played in ther SB representing the Same
    State. Ex Miami Vs TB... Name the teams?

	Buffalo vs NEW YORK
        9ERS vs Chargers
        
    
     2. How many Times have teams with the same starting letter in there team
    played each other in the SB? EX BILLS/Broncos.  NAME THEM?
    
	Colts  vs Cowboys  
	Raiders vs Redskins
	
	
    
     3. What Player(s) have won the most SB MVP's?

	Montana
	Bradshaw
    
     4. Which team(s) has lost the most SB's?444

	Denver
	Buffalo
	Minnesota
    
     5. Which team(s) has won the most? 

	Dallas
	9ers
    
     6. Which team has lost the most AFC Championship games?

	Cleveland
    
     7. Which team has lost the most NFC Championship Games?

	Dallas
    
     8. With the current Divisional Lineups. Which division has sent the
    most teams to the SB? The Least Teams? And How many?

	NFC East 4
	AFC East 4
	AFC west 4
        NFC West 2

    
     9. How many of the current 30 teams have never been to a SB?

	New Orleans Seattle, Atlanta, Arizona, Tampa Bay Jacksonville
	Carolina, Cleveland Houston, Indy, detroit
    
     10. Name the First Defensive player to win SB MVP? The last Def.player
    to win SB MVP?  1st Chuck Howley SB5  last Larry Brown Sb30
    
     11. How many players on losing teams have won the SB MVP?

	1 Dallas  Chuck Howley SB5
    
     12. Name the only team(s) with 5 losses in the year to win a SB? What
    SB(S)? Dallas 12 Pittsburg 10
		
     13. What was the least amount of pts scored in a SB? By which two
    teams?   23 Jets Colts  SB3
    
     14 Most Pts scored in a SB? By which to teams?  55 9ers
    
     15. Out of the current 30 teams How many teams have won a SB?

	11
    
    1-5 Right  Your a Maiewski.
    6-10 Right your a Wagamain
    10-14 Your a Brydie
    15. Your a Sports God (JAKE)  :-)
    
    
    Chap
    

USA Today has a computer s[t]imulation of SB XXXI.

The computer prorgam predicts that Green Bay will win, 34-20. In the
third quarter, Favre tossses a TD to Antonio Freeman to break the tie at
20. With about 2 minutes to go in the game, Edgar Bennett scores for the
final score.

The computer played 25,000 games. Green Bay won about 3/4 of 'em. The
average score for all games was Green Bay 24-17. When the Packers won,
the average score was 27-15.

Supposedly, the computer is 8-1.

TTom

   
Swami: Hot vs. hotter

   By Chris Berman
   From ESPN SportsCenter
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
   For 15 seasons, the Swami's magic carpet has jetted to the Super Bowl.
   
   I'm not in New Orleans this year, but you didn't think being
   in a wheelchair after knee surgery is going to hold me back, did you?
   If Raymond Burr can solve mysteries in one of these, I can sure pick
   the Super Bowl.
   
   We know we can pick from two hot teams. From Nov. 24 on -- that's the
   Sunday before Thanksgiving -- the Packers are a perfect 7-0.
   
   They've been relentless in the second half. They've averaged 32 points
   per game in that span. They've scored 65 points in their two playoff
   wins.
   
   But, the Patriots are almost as hot ... or, as they say in Boston,
   "hawt."
   
   They are 6-1 in that span. The defense has really come on, allowing
   only 10 points per game. They've allowed only nine points combined in
   their two playoff wins.
   
   With both teams so hot, how come the Patriots are getting about two
   touchdowns?
   
   In 1985, when the Pats played the Super Bowl-shuffle Chicago Bears,
   they got only 10 points. Now they're getting more!
   
   In 31 Super Bowls, there have been six point spreads of two touchdowns
   or more -- the first three, (the first two obviously involving the
   Packers), and now, the last three.
   
   Here come the Pack again, proving what goes around, comes around. The
   big favorites are only 3-2 against the number, though. Remember Dallas
   won, but didn't cover last year.
   
   Maybe the spread is so big because it's in New Orleans.
   
   This is the eighth Super Bowl played in the Big Easy. The first seven
   have been Easily Big:
   
   Super Bowl IV: 23-7, Kansas City over Minnesota.
   
   Super Bowl VI: 24-3, Dallas over Miami.
   
   Super Bowl IX: 16-6, Pittsburgh over Minnesota.
   
   Super Bowl XII: 27-10, Dallas over Denver.
   
   Super Bowl XV: 27-10, Oakland over Philly.
   
   But the last two games in New Orleans have really epitomized the AFC's
   losing streak.
   
   Super Bowl XX: The Bears, 46-10 over the P-Men.
   
   Super Bowl XXIV: The Niners, 55-10 over the Broncos, the worst two
   defeats in Super Bowl history.
   
   In short, the NFC teams were the animals and for the AFC, the
   Louisiana Superdome became the house of the rising sun.
   
   This is a game that Mike Holmgren will get his credit of being the
   offensive genius of the '90s, as Bill Walsh and Joe Gibbs were of the
   '80s.
   
   The Pack led the NFL in scoring. Brett Favre had 39 touchdown passes.
   Yet, only Favre and Keith Jackson from the offense made the Pro Bowl
   from the Packers.
   
   What does that tell you? They got a great scheme.
   
   What else does it tell you? They're gonna win, and since all four
   losing teams in the Super Bowls played in the Superdome scored 10, why
   change?
   
   27-10, Green Bay on the frozen hurricanes of Bourbon Street.
   
   Mothers, tell your children not to do what I have done. Many of us
   think the Pack will roll, and I know I'm one of them.
   

RE-1>> 2. How many Times have teams with the same starting letter in there team
          played each other in the SB? EX BILLS/Broncos.  NAME THEM?

          Colts vs Cowboys
          Raiders vs Redskins

  What's the matter with you???? No Patriots vs Packers???


           Patriots 38

           Packers  31



                       Lil Ed

    Friday 1/24
    
    NYI     5  gOWhaLE 2  King 3g, Palffy 2g, Sanderson & Rice g
    Oilers  3  Buffalo 1  Kovalenko g a, Smyth & McGillis g, Ray g
    Flames  2  Ottawa  2  Millen 2g, Yashin & Alfredsson g
    Dallas  5  Caps    2  Modano g a, Marshall & Sydor g, Cote & Konowalchuk g
    DEVILS  3  Sharks  1  Zelepukin, Sullivan & MacLean g, Guolla g
    Toronto 2  Chicago 1 OT Murphy & Muller g, Amonte g
    
    Today:
    
    Colorado at Bruins
    Blues at Montreal
    TB at Florida
    Detriot at Flyers
    NYR at PittsburgH
    Chicago at NYI
    gOwhaLE at Buffalo
    Dallas at Toronto
    Ducks at LAKings
    Canucks at Phoenix
    

    re. #13
    
    	How about Miami 14 Wash 7 for 21 in SB # 7

	Well let's see,

		- The wife has a nasty flu.
		- The kid is being a big enough brat to make me think
		back with fondness on the terrible two's.
		- The cat is either upchuking a softball sized hairball
		or needs an exorcism.
		_ My basement now comes complete with a builtin waterfall
		thanks to a frozen/split water pipe.

	But,


		Life is good. The Packers are Champions again.


	Very entertaining game. Let's do it again next year. ;-)

	Bill K.

	P.S. One more thing. I caught plenty of teasing from wearing Packer
	gear in Massachusetts. But the vast majority was good natured and
	given/taken for fun. Considering the bashing Pats fans have taken
	I thought I'd mention some of the good stuff. (Although if I hear
	'Cream Cheese' in the next month someone better be handing me a
	baggle. ;-)

    CHOKE

   
  Numbers drop but networks show no signs of backing off
  
   The buzz on big-time sports: How high is up?
   
   Whether it's player salaries or ticket prices, franchise values or
   arena costs, conventional wisdom asserts everything is getting bigger,
   if not better. Here's something different: The supply of big-time
   sports' big product seems sluggish in key spots.
   
   That product, of course, is eyeballs - measured by TV ratings. As
   leagues sell their viewers to networks, which hawk them to
   advertisers, Nielsen Media Research's famous ratings dictate the
   quantity of eyeballs bought and sold each year in the TV industry's
   $40 billion ad time business.
   
   Compared to past Super Bowls, Fox's Bowl Sunday was No. 4 in total
   viewers but No. 17 in household ratings. While raw viewing totals go
   up as the U.S. population grows, ratings measure the percentage of
   households tuned in - each rating point equals 1% of the USA's 97
   million TV households. And Nielsen isn't exactly bullish on sports:
     * From mid-September through December, overall household ratings for
       all broadcast network weekend sports (airing noon-6 p.m. ET) fell
       17% from 1995.
     * The three broadcast networks covering the 1996 NFL season set, or
       tied, modern-era TV lows - a cumulative 5% drop from 1995 that
       continued into the playoffs. (On cable, NFL ratings dropped about
       10%.)
     * The New York Yankees-Atlanta Braves 1996 World Series pitted two
       teams with presumed national followings. But ratings managed to
       top only the 1990 and 1993 Series, matchups offering TV just one
       U.S. home-team TV market.
     * Baseball's All-Star Game, midsummer's biggest TV sports star, has
       steadily lost about a third of its TV audience since 1988.
     * While nearly all major college basketball games are on TV
       somewhere, the NCAA men's tournament ratings have weakened,
       dropping five consecutive years for the title game.
       
   Paul Schulman, who annually buys about $175 million in network ad time
   for advertisers, suggests sports slumps are just part of a bigger
   picture: This season's network prime-time TV is down about 6%.
   ''Outside of the Olympics, nothing on network TV is going up.
   Everybody talks about the prime-time success of NBC, the No. 1
   network, but it's down 9% this season.''
   
   Broadcast networks' problems go way back. Decades ago, CBS, NBC and
   ABC had a virtual monopoly on viewers' eyeballs. Now, along with Fox,
   they command just 62% of viewers tuned into prime time. Inroads,
   arguably, haven't just come from cable and syndicated TV: About 90% of
   households have VCRs, nearly 40% have home computers and 6% have
   satellite dishes.
   
   And, says Jon Mandel of Grey Advertising, life is busier: ''The days
   of the humongous ratings are gone because of a cultural change. There
   are too many other things to do. It used to be you didn't want to be
   the only schmuck at work the next day who'd missed the game. Now you
   may not even have time at work to talk about games.''
   
   Besides, everybody might be watching different games. Outside the NFL,
   the only sport carried almost exclusively by broadcast networks, dips
   in regular-season ratings don't necessarily mean a sport is losing
   popularity. The opposite might be true: With most games in major
   sports now on TV somewhere, total fan bases might be split into
   diminutive single-game ratings.
   
   That's the case with college sports. ABC's college football ratings
   last season dropped about 20% as CBS joined the existing pack of TV
   outlets airing the sport. Regular-season TV college basketball is
   wall-to-wall; there are 281 men's games just on ESPN/ESPN2. And
   ESPN/ESPN2, among others, now devotes big time blocks to hype title
   events they don't even carry - from 20 hours for the NCAA Final Four
   to nearly 100 for the Super Bowl.
   
   Which begs the question: Why don't those fans scattered across the TV
   dial come together to produce a boffo box office for title games?
   
   The networks themselves have a straightforward explanation: Nielsen is
   off-base. They've long argued that out-of-home viewing, in places such
   as bars and dorms, isn't fully measured. Says NBC executive Nick
   Schiavone: ''People knew Nielsen had become sloppy. . . . What we
   didn't want to believe is that they'd drop the ball. And they've
   dropped this ball badly.''
   
   Last fall, networks blasted Nielsen for modifications in how it
   collects its data, especially changes in its 5,000-household survey
   sample. CBS basketball analyst Billy Packer's blunt verdict: ''The
   ratings don't relate to anything in modern day America.''
   
   Nielsen says its ratings are as reliable as ever. But Fox executive
   Giles Lundberg, hoping networks soon get an alternative ratings
   service, says, ''We need more accuracy and consistency. Nielsen made
   its changes under our protest. We're very concerned about the
   methodology.''
   
   But advertisers say they've heard the gripes before when networks get
   disappointing ratings. Says ad man Mandel: ''My reaction to the
   network complaints is something you couldn't print in a family
   newspaper.''
   
   And certainly big-event sports ratings haven't fallen across the
   board: Three of the four highest-rated NBA Finals have come since
   1994.
   
   And ratings always come with asterisks. No matter who plays, World
   Series ratings are likely to rise next year as it moves from No. 4
   network Fox last year to NBC, where it won't have to face competition
   from the No. 1 network. And there's always the X factor of sports
   stars: Super Bowl-like ratings for Nancy Kerrigan-Tonya Harding
   matchups put the average 1994 Winter Olympic prime-time rating above
   every night of NBC's 1996 Atlanta Olympics.
   
   But downward big-event ratings could change what you see, at least
   around the margins. Early-round baseball playoffs and NCAA basketball
   tournament coverage could migrate to cable TV. Media buyer Schulman
   suggests moving college football's title game away from the other New
   Year's bowls to the weekend before the Super Bowl could boost ratings
   by more than 30%.
   
   But sports such as the NFL, which will negotiate new TV deals late
   this year, might not have much to worry about: Top sports events
   remain a premier TV vehicle for advertisers to reach 18- to
   49-year-old eyeballs, especially male eyeballs. They set broadcast
   networks apart from the burgeoning TV pack. That's why Fox went after
   the NFL in 1993, raising total NFL TV rights fees 20%, even after the
   other networks collectively lost at least $200 million the previous
   season.
   
   Networks know even tepid sports ratings stand out amidst today's
   fragmented TV audiences: CBS' college football and basketball title
   games still produced CBS' two highest ratings last year. Says CBS
   Sports President Sean McManus: ''Audiences for high quality sports
   events have reached their saturation level. But I know instinctively
   that the marketplace's appetite for sports grows every year. Put me
   down as concerned but not worried.''
   
   By Michael Hiestand, USA TODAY

    Household rating may effectively measure advertising attractiveness but
    don't necessarily measure demand.  The ppv potential for yesterday's
    game was enormous and could be combined with the advertiser revenue to
    totally blow the socks off of all cap economics in one blow.
    
    50,000 sites at $200 per commercial license - 10 mil
    ?? million homes at $20			  ?00 mil
    
    plus 52 grand/minute of tv time.

It's almost a foregone conclusion that the SuperBowl will eventually go
to PPV. I think what the rating number show is a diminishing return for
the current format.

Granted the economics haven't peaked but it appears that the viewership
has. Given that the point of ads are to reach people, somewhere in the
near future those paying out the big bucks might wanna rethink this plan.

TTom

Personally, I could do without the two weeks of hype.  One week of hype is
enough.  Perhaps some of those households out there were all "Super Bowled"
out.

    re. 132
    
    The fact that the Packers and the Patriots shared the same first two
    letters and that the Packers are frequently referred to as the Pack and
    the Patriots as the Pats made it very difficult both on Bourbon Street
    and in the stadium on Sunday to know which team was being cheered for
    when cheers came from a distance. In general there were a lot more
    Cheeseheads both on the streets and in the stands than there were Pats 
    fans.
    
    Packer Fans are great fans and root for their team in a positive way.
    They didn't make it uncomfortable for the Patriots minority.