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Title:Sports 93-96 Archive. No new notes allowed
Notice:Chainsaw's last standSPORTS_97
Moderator:HBAHBA::HAAS
Created:Mon Jan 11 1993
Last Modified:Tue Apr 15 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:302
Total number of notes:117855

66.0. "Minnesota Woofies" by ANGLIN::WIERSBECK (Remember Twins/Braves in '91?) Thu Jan 14 1993 15:33

    If there is any interest at all in these clowns, I'll try to answer
    questions you might have.
    
    
    Spud
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66.1frozen out, literally & figurativelyFRETZ::HEISERarms raised in a VThu Jan 14 1993 15:361
    When are the Timberpups gonna trade Laettner to the Celtics?
66.2CAMONE::WAYCheez-Whiz, Choice of ChampionsThu Jan 14 1993 15:424
Has Chris Smith from UCONN been getting much playing time?????


'Saw
66.3Think they'll win more games than the Vikings?AXIS::ROBICHAUD1-900-822-NOTYThu Jan 14 1993 16:171
    
66.4ANGLIN::WIERSBECKRemember Twins/Braves in '91?Thu Jan 14 1993 17:1028
    The Woofs won't trade Laettner.  Acutally, he's going to be a pretty
    decent player.  It's just too bad that their last two #1 picks have
    been busts.  (Spencer and Longley)
    
    Since Sidney took over a few days ago, there seems to have been an attitude
    change.  I listened to the game on radio and everyone was commenting
    how much better the D was.  Of course they were pathetic before, so
    standing in an upright position would have been an improvement.  :*O
    
    Lowe already has shown other changes.  'Saw, last night Chris Smith had
    twelve minutes, including playing down the stretch the final five
    minutes.  Neither Musslehead or Rodgers would play the young guys much
    especially at the end when it mattered.  They weren't developing.  Now at
    least they'll have a chance to.  Also, Lowe will command a full effort.
    If someone is not giving that, they will be pulled.  The players
    understand that and accept it.  Why Rodgers couldn't do this is
    anyone's guess.
    
    Will they win more games than the Vikes?  Hmmm, we're talking about a
    team that hasn't beat anyone except Dallas (in other words, they
    haven't beaten anyone) since last November 18th.  They're 6-24 and would
    have to go 6-42 the rest of the way.  Yeah, I think they will. 
    
    In fact, I'll go out on a limb and predict they'll beat Denver tomorrow
    night.
    
    
    Spud 
66.5CAMONE::WAYCheez-Whiz, Choice of ChampionsFri Jan 15 1993 09:3114
>    Lowe already has shown other changes.  'Saw, last night Chris Smith had
>    twelve minutes, including playing down the stretch the final five
>    minutes.  Neither Musslehead or Rodgers would play the young guys much
>    especially at the end when it mattered.  They weren't developing.  Now at
>    least they'll have a chance to.  Also, Lowe will command a full effort.


Thanks Spud.

There's a lot of interest in Smith around here, and we don't hear much.
I hope he gets a decent shot now....


'Saw
66.6to see more actionANGLIN::WIERSBECKRemember Twins/Braves in '91?Fri Jan 15 1993 14:447
    According to Lowe, Smith deserved to be in at the end.  He was playing
    better than Michael Williams.  Williams has a tendancy to turn the ball
    over quite a bit.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Smith's PT
    increase now.
    
    
    Spud
66.7CAMONE::WAYCheez-Whiz, Choice of ChampionsFri Jan 15 1993 15:5512
>    According to Lowe, Smith deserved to be in at the end.  He was playing
>    better than Michael Williams.  Williams has a tendancy to turn the ball
>    over quite a bit.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Smith's PT
>    increase now.


That would be great.

Folks in CT are very proud of the three NBA players we've got.  8^)


'Saw
66.8Are all 3 CT natives?FRETZ::HEISERarms raised in a VFri Jan 15 1993 16:591
    
66.9CAMONE::WAYCheez-Whiz, Choice of ChampionsFri Jan 15 1993 17:1324
>                           -< Are all 3 CT natives? >-

No, I don't think so.   

Tate George was from Jersey.  I can't remember where Robinson is from,
and I think that Chris Smith was from Bridgeport but I could be wrong.

Robinson was definitely from the period of time where most UCONN hoopsters
were from within the state.....


But, UCONN is THE SHOW as far as college hoops here in the state, and
the UCONN fans follow the kids after they leave.  There was mucho coverage
of Tate George going to the Nets up here, and in fact, WFSB-TV3 from
Hartford sent a camera crew down to NJ for Tate's first game with the
Nets.  It was big news here.


So, we think of them as our own if they've been Huskies.....


'Saw
    

66.10Smitty for THREEEEEEEJURAN::MCKAYMon Jan 18 1993 11:446
    Robinson is from the Syracuse N.Y. area.  Jimmy B. let him slip
    through the cracks.  Smith is from Bridgeport Ct.  Tate sips and
    will be gone whenever his guaranteed contract expires.  Him being
    taken in the first round was unbelievable in my book.
    
    Jimbo
66.11Woofs problem is with the GMTNPUBS::NAZZAROWhy won&#039;t BC play UMass?Mon Jan 18 1993 15:4411
    Unfortunately for the Woofs, having McCloskey as GM pretty much ensures
    their wallowing in mediocrity for the next several seasons.  I like
    Sidney Lowe a lot, and I think he has the potential to be a great
    coach, but McCloskey is a poor judge of personnel and is one stubborn
    sumbitch.  He personally dismantled the two-time NBA champion Pistons
    and turned them into a lottery team.  He'll keep the Woofs a lottery
    team for at least the next 2-3 years, and if he keeps making terrible
    trades like giving up on Gerald Glass for two marginal CBA players in
    Brad Sellers and Lance Blanks, it'll be longer than that.
    
    NAZZ
66.12Going for two in a row tonight ANGLIN::WIERSBECKRemember Twins/Braves in &#039;91?Mon Jan 18 1993 15:569
    Yeah, I agree on that trade anyway, but believe me, McClosky is a
    definate improvement over Bob Stein.
    
    As I'm hearing locally, Glass is getting zip playing time in Detroit as
    well.  It sounded like he wasn't earning the PT here in practice.  What
    a waste of talent - if that's the case.
    
    
    Spud
66.13ANGLIN::WIERSBECKRemember Twins/Braves in &#039;91?Wed Feb 03 1993 09:4819
    Woofies continue playing very good BB under Sir Sidney.  Last night
    they beat Portland IN Portland by 13.  After the first 90 seconds,
    Woofs led the rest of the way.  Portland made a couple of runs, but
    they withstood them every time.  One great sequence had Luc Longley
    blocking a Drexler dunk, leading a fast break the other way where
    Laettner slammed it home.  Portland and their fans couldn't believe it.
    Woofs passed better than I've ever seen them.  Quick snap passes and
    around the horn beautifully.  Reminded me of the Celts in the mid 80's.
    
    Too bad I'm not in Vegas.  Portland was favored by 17 1/2 and Phoenix
    is the same tonight.  Woofs have won two in a row and are the only
    expansion team to beat Portland (they've done it twice now - both times
    in Portland)  They've also took Phoenix to the wire in OT and lost a
    close one in Detroit.
    
    Hmmm, suppose Phoenix will take them seriously tonight?
    
    
    Spud
66.14fyiFRETZ::HEISERRUN! Lorena has the gavel!Mon Jan 17 1994 14:2235
From: [email protected] (UPI)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.basketball
Subject: San Diego reportedly offers deal for T-Wolves

	SAN DIEGO (UPI) -- A San Diego newspaper reported Sunday that a local
group has prepared a bail-out for the owners of the Minnesota
Timberwolves that could bring the NBA club to Southern California.
	The San Diego Union-Tribune said businessmen working to build a new
sports arena in San Diego have come up with a memorandum of
understanding under which the group would loan $35 million to
Timberwolves owners Marv Wolfenson and Harvey Ratner. In exchange, 49
percent of the team would be immediately sold to San Diego buyers with
the rest sold in a few years.
	If Wolfenson and Ratner agree to the deal, the Timberwolves could be
relocated in time for the 1994-95 season, the Union-Tribune said.
	``There is still some work to be done, but (a move to San Diego) is
very plausible,'' Joe Pettirossi, the team's chief financial officer
told the newspaper. ``I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.''
	Pettirossi, Wolfenson and Ratner met in San Diego last month with
members of Arena 2000 and the manager of the existing sports arena,
which was home to the San Diego Rockets and Clippers during the NBA's
two previous stints in California's second-largest city.
	The Timberwolves brief life in Minneapolis could be cut short by the
financial problems of the owners. Wolfenson and Ratner, both of whom are
68 years old and have vacation homes in San Diego. The two want the city
of Minneapolis to assume their $74 million debt on the Target Center by
March 1, which is the NBA's deadline for teams to declare their
intention to move next season.
	The proposed $35 million loan from San Diego would lessen the debt
burden on Wolfenson and Ratner.
	Minneapolis city officials have not made a decision on the arena
debt, but San Diego's Arena 2000 has not come to an agreement with city
hall on funding their proposed downtown arena.
	Under the proposal reported Sunday, the Timberwolves would play for
two years at the existing Sports Arena rent free.
66.15When can we have you out Marv and Harv? ANGLIN::WIERSBECKChildsIsWrong-ReevesIsGOD!Mon Jan 17 1994 14:578
    What was that saying? ...  Go North Stars and take the Woofies with
    you.
    
    This would be a nice way to disown them as one of my teams and make a
    nice segway to the Bulls.  
    
    
    Spud
66.16CSC32::GAULKEMon Jan 17 1994 15:2214
    
>>	The Timberwolves brief life in Minneapolis could be cut short by the
>>financial problems of the owners. Wolfenson and Ratner, both of whom are
>>68 years old and have vacation homes in San Diego. The two want the city
>>of Minneapolis to assume their $74 million debt on the Target Center by
>>March 1, which is the NBA's deadline for teams to declare their
>>intention to move next season.

  Stick it to the taxpayers (again)

 Who built the Center? If the city has any brains, they oughtta JUST SAY NO
and let that Center rot. If they go ahead and assume the debt, it's pretty
    much guaranteed you'll be paying another 5-10 million a year to
    support the beast.  
66.17ANGLIN::WIERSBECKChildsIsWrong-ReevesIsGOD!Tue Jan 18 1994 09:578
    It's something the city is going to have to hash out.  The business'
    would prefer the team stays, because of the additional shopping fans
    do.  Also, there are a ton of restaurants and bars within a few blocks
    of the arena.  One of the owners yesterday denied the report of the
    possible move.
    
    
    Spud
66.18Pretty impressiveANGLIN::WIERSBECKChildsIsWrong-ReevesIsGOD!Tue Jan 18 1994 10:064
    Hey, how about that Isaih Rider's reject of Ewing?  6'5" vs. 7'+
    
    
    Spud
66.19GWEN::ASHEThank you Dr. King.Tue Jan 18 1994 10:372
    Pretty good.  Would have helped more if they had one.