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| 31.1 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Be a team player... | Mon Jan 11 1993 17:42 | 2 |
| I always thought Miller was good, the others were bad...
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| 31.2 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Mon Jan 11 1993 19:08 | 9 |
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Well Walt, certainly Miller is the best, but I've seen him drop plenty
over the years that have hit him squarely between the numbers.
For the draft, I'd love to see a top notch WR, defensive tackle, inside
linebacker or cornerback (mainly because Donald Frank is sooo bad).
Live from Charger Central.......Glenn
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| 31.3 | counter-point.........NOT! ;^) | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Tue Jan 12 1993 07:28 | 10 |
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Yabbut although Miller is OK, I think most people would say that they
prefer Budweiser.
ta boom!
I remain,
partial to British brews myself!
Kev
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| 31.4 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | A2 brings out the hypocrites | Tue Jan 12 1993 11:18 | 10 |
| A force to reckened with in the AFC the next few years? Glenn, I
haven't heard that kinda statement from you since we used to toss the
nerfy around in the courtyard (Fouts days)....
I have to agree with ya on that.
I think Bobby Ross and Bethard deserve a pat on the back, especially
after the dismal start.
Tim
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| 31.5 | | DECWET::METZGER | I don't think so, Tim. | Tue Jan 12 1993 13:53 | 13 |
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I think that Lewis is passable but the Chargers really need a good pass catching
tight end. Having a good tight would force the defense into some different
coverages so that they couldn't just double both Miller and Lewis al the
time.
Kudos to the charger fans who showed up the airport to greet the team when
they landed.
Here's hoping the chargers rule the East for many years to come...
Metz
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| 31.6 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Tue Jan 12 1993 14:39 | 5 |
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I don't know Metz. Sometimes Lewis has trouble catching a cold!
Glenn
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| 31.7 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | A2 brings out the hypocrites | Tue Jan 12 1993 16:32 | 2 |
| Chargers rool the east fur years to come? Did I miss something? I
thought they were in the west....
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| 31.8 | Still Dryin' Out | PTLOMA::PUGH | | Tue Jan 12 1993 18:28 | 26 |
| Well, it was a helluva ride this year. Thanks Chargers!
Regardless of the poor play Sunday, it just wasn't in the cards. On any given
gameday in the NFL........Chargers caught no breaks (not that it mattered).
Miller needs to be a complimentary receiver, not the main man. He didn't show
up Sunday.
I still feel there needs to be a spirited QB competition this summer between
Stan and Friesz.
My priorities for the draft: another kickbutt defensive lineman (they double-
teamed O'Neal Sunday and school was out), a wide receiver that either is or
will be a star in the NFL, and another linebacker. And if Ross modifies the
offense like he says he will (he used Henning's offense this year), then a
tight end that has hands would be nice.
And finally, to any Fish fans - congrats on a great victory and good luck this
week and beyond. But your Joe Robbie fans are the biggest jerks I've ever
encountered - they showed no respect to the Bolt fans who shelled out the bucks
to travel to the game. Fish fans can expect much more cordial treatment next
year at the Murph when Miami comes west.
All in all it was a great year; certainly better than I expected.
Doug
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| 31.9 | Draft Talk | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Jan 21 1993 11:01 | 14 |
| I heard Beathard answering questions on a call in show last night. He said
his priorities for the draft are as follows:
Defensive tackle (but he would take any defensive lineman that was good)
Linebacker
Wide Receiver
He didn't mention in what order he would like to get players at those positions,
but knowing how he drafts, he'll select the highest rated player on the board
at any of those spots.
Doug
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| 31.10 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Wed Jan 27 1993 11:38 | 3 |
| Sounds alot like whtat you and I said they needed!
Glenn
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| 31.11 | Fouts HOF'er | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Mon Feb 01 1993 11:36 | 6 |
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Congratulations to Dan Fouts for being voted into the NFL Hall of Fame
over the weekend.
Live from Charger Central.......Glenn
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| 31.12 | February Notes | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri Feb 12 1993 15:41 | 10 |
| I'm really reaching for info to post, but OK, so I'm having
withdrawals......
The Chargers are talking to some WR in the Canadian league and may sign
him. Can't remember his name but he had 108 catches this past year.
Gill Byrd says he may leave the Chargers. (He's an unrestricted FA).
I wonder if this is posturing or if he's serious.
Doug
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| 31.13 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Quit dancin' on that table! | Fri Feb 12 1993 18:46 | 7 |
| The Broncos will take him. No more int's from Biffy;^)
I know he is the type of CB the Broncos could use.
Its just $$$$ talking. How long has he been around anyhow?
Tim
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| 31.14 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Fri Feb 19 1993 17:41 | 5 |
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Chargers announced today the retirement of Billy Ray Smith.
Live from Charger Central.......Glenn
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| 31.15 | Franchise Player | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Feb 25 1993 10:42 | 17 |
| Rumor has it that today the Chargers will announce:
Leslie O'Neal as the "Franchise Player"
Ronnie Harmon as one "Transition Player" (Right of 1st refusal)
Harry Swayne as the other "Transition Player"
If true, this means that Rod Bernstine will not be protected. I believe it
also means that Anthony Miller would be unprotected. And of course Gil Byrd
and David Richards are already unrestricted free agents.
Should be interesting.
Doug
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| 31.16 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Teach a man to fish and he'll eat forever | Thu Feb 25 1993 10:47 | 7 |
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The Giants sure could use Anthony Miller in a big way. Can't understand
why they wouldn't protect Bersteine unless he's damaged goods or they
think they can pass him off as damaged goods so no other teams touch
him.
mike
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| 31.17 | | ROYALT::ASHE | If you wanna ride, ride the white pony | Thu Feb 25 1993 13:50 | 2 |
| Who is Harry Swayne?
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| 31.18 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Feb 25 1993 15:43 | 24 |
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Re last: <Who is Harry Swayne?> Swayne is the starting OLT. He started
every game there this year and played well. I agree with protecting him.
Re: .17 The Chargers problem is that they have too many potential free agents
to protect. It makes sense not to protect Bernstine because he always gets
hurt and they have Butts, Harmon, and Bieniemy anyway.
Miller would be a tough defection, although he disappeared big time in the
playoff loss to Miami.
I figure they'll lose Bernstine and Richards at least. I hope they can persuade
Miller, Byrd, and the other lessor FAs to stay.
Doug
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| 31.19 | Miller not Free | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Feb 25 1993 18:19 | 6 |
| The Chargers confirmed the protected players list I posted a couple of replies
ago. But apparently I'm wrong about Miller. I guess he isn't a free agent
after all.
Doug
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| 31.20 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Fri Feb 26 1993 19:08 | 19 |
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Alot of these players have been with the Chargers during the lean years
and now the Chargers are just turning the corner. I wonder how that
will affect their decisions to jump ship.
So the equation that I see is......
A+B+C+D+E+F+G or more money with another team
A = Up & coming team
B = Playoff money for the next few years
C = Legitimate chance at super bowl
D = Great climate
E = Great general manager
F = grass field
G = good head coach
Live from Charger Central.........Glenn
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| 31.21 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Mar 01 1993 18:04 | 28 |
| The Bernstine situation is a tough one though. Both sides have good arguments
for their position.
Bernstine thinks he should be the main man and wants to be guaranteed that
he will start.
The Chargers probably did not protect him because he is injury prone.
I read the other day that he said he doesn't want to leave but feels he
should test the market.
The one I really want to watch is David Richards. I don't think it's any
accident that the Chargers were playing other guys at his position late
in the season. I figure he's gone.
Plummer will stay.
I can't see Byrd leaving but you never know. He was part of the lawsuit too.
I forget who the others are but there's several.
Also, the other day Beathard was asked if he knew of any players that for
certain will NOT be back next year.
His answer: Bob Gagliano.
Doug
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| 31.22 | Bernstine a DONK? | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri Mar 05 1993 13:34 | 10 |
| The Donks are heavily wooing Bernstine. They flew him into Denver for an
interview. Also interested are the Chiefs, Colts, and a few other teams,
according the the SD Union/Tribune.
Anybody but the Donks or Raiders, pleeeeeze.
Also, O'Neal is piffed about being named the Franchise Player and is
participating with Wilbur Marshall in that bogus lawsuit against the league.
Doug
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| 31.23 | | DECWET::METZGER | Go, Speed, Go | Fri Mar 05 1993 13:50 | 13 |
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Are the player suing their own union? Didn't they agree to the current
free agency schema in their collective bargaining agreement or does the
NFLPA no longer exist or can it not speak for the players?
I think I remember the NFLPA disbanding after the last strike so that they
could pursue the litigation angle vs. the NFL owners. Did they reform to
negotiate the current agreement or was it simply voted on by the players?
I'm still confused over this whole thing....
Metz
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| 31.24 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Fri Mar 05 1993 14:12 | 5 |
| The NFLPA should or will soon be a union again. Suing after an
agreement is reached via collective bargaining is a real long shot.
The Crazy Met
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| 31.25 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | C'mon baby finish what you started! | Fri Mar 05 1993 18:39 | 15 |
| I wouldn't mind seeing him as a bronco, they could use him while
Smith and/or Green are hurt, kinda rotate the injury prone RB's as
they become healthy.
Why are the cheifs interested unless they plan on trading Nightmare,
Word or Williams. They already have big backs that weren't utilized
properly last year IMO.
The faids already have Bell and 2 old timers, 1 which will be
gone before training camp. Maybe Dorsett will come out of retirment to
play for Al?
Tim
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| 31.26 | When Will the Chargers Sign Somebody? | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Mar 11 1993 11:07 | 14 |
| Beathard said yesterday he wants to sign WR Fred Barnett and would be willing
to part with the Chargers 1st round draft choice as compensation to the
Eagles. I say, make it happen!
The Donks have reportedly offered Bernstine $1.2 million per year. The
Chargers are trying to get him to stay. Decision due soon.
Dave Richards is being wooed by the Chiefs new OL Coach, Alex Gibbs, who of
course used to work for the Chargers in the same capacity.
Gill Byrd is talking to the 49ers.
Doug
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| 31.27 | Bernie Takes $$ and Runs | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Mar 15 1993 10:10 | 10 |
| Free spending Donks signed Bernstine to a 3-year $4.6 million contract on
Saturday. Looks like the NFL, led by the idiot Bowlen, will start escalating
salaries to the moon, just like the NBA, MLB, etc. I hope the Donks like
paying $1.5 mil a year to a guy that will play 10-12 games per year, max. He's
good when he plays though.
ESPN says the Chargers have the inside track on Marcus Allen, a San Diego
native.
Doug
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| 31.28 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Mon Mar 15 1993 10:58 | 8 |
| I was suprised just a little that they are paying him this much. AS
to blaming the blowlin for higher $$$ in NFL, I think that this outta
control $$$ business has been just that for the past what 5-6 years?
I am suprised blowlin did cough up the cash that he did for the
offensive linemen that he picked up.
Tim
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| 31.29 | Gerald Williams? | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Mar 29 1993 14:09 | 6 |
| The Chargers have offered a free agent contract to Gerald Williams of the
Pittsburgh Steelers. I know **zero** about this guy. Can anybody tell me
about him?
Doug
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| 31.30 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Censored fer poor taste | Mon Mar 29 1993 14:29 | 12 |
| First. it's "Jerrol" not Gerald. (8^)*
Second, he lead the Steelers in sacks two years ago, with 9, but
only started 4 games.
Last year, he started every game, but had only 4-1/2 sacks. He is 6'5"
and weighs 253 pounds, and has the speed to cover wide receivers. He
has been described as "the best linbacker the Steelers have had in a
long time."
JaKe
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| 31.31 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Mar 29 1993 17:13 | 6 |
| Thanks for the info, JaKe.
The fact that they offered this guy more $$ than they pay Seau ought to go
over real good with Junior.
Doug
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| 31.32 | Anthony Munoz | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Wed Mar 31 1993 16:11 | 8 |
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Heard on SportsCenter last night that Anthony Munoz is talking with
Ross and Beathard. Maybe......
Live from Charger Central......Glenn
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| 31.33 | | CAMONE::WAY | Shane, The Wonder Dog | Wed Mar 31 1993 16:13 | 13 |
| > Heard on SportsCenter last night that Anthony Munoz is talking with
> Ross and Beathard. Maybe......
Sure is tough to pull the needle out of your arm....
It'd be great for the Chargers, but man, I wonder how Munoz will feel
mid-season if he does come back. But hey, if he comes back, maybe
being on a contender will make it worthwhile.....
'Saw
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| 31.34 | Lose One, Gain One | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri Apr 02 1993 12:01 | 18 |
| LB Henry Rolling signed a contract with the Rams last night. It was inevitable
because after the offer was tendered the other day Beathard said there was no
way the Chargers would match it.
But the Chargers got back at the Rams by signing their right OG Joe Milinchik
(spelling is probably wrong). That probably means the Chargers figure that
Dave Richards is history.
With Rolling bailing, I hope this Jerrol Williams thing comes through. We'll
know by tomorrow.
The Sporting News says the Chargers still covet Fred Barnett, but I heard on
the radio last week that he wanted way too much money.
Regarding Munoz, what position would he play? Right tackle is weak, so that
would be nice, I guess. I'm sure he wants the big bucks.
Doug
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| 31.35 | News & Notes | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Apr 08 1993 15:29 | 21 |
| Free Agent Losses Free Agent Additions
================= ====================
Rod Bernstine Joe Milinichik
Henry Rolling Jerrol Williams
David Richards Brian Davis
Faiders offered CB Donald Frank a 2-year $1.3 million contract which S.D.
promptly matched. (Yeah, for THAT stiff). Chargers want him for special teams.
Chargers probably will not pursue Anthony Munoz.
Allen Pinkett is in town for a look-see.
Marcus Allen wants a lot of money and he appears headed for Miami.
Doug
p.s. Glenn; 1st issue of POWERLINE is out.
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| 31.36 | Hum? | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Fri Apr 09 1993 00:43 | 7 |
| If Marcus is headed to Miami, its probably because Bobby Humphrey
said he may not play anymore. Marcus would most likely be used in 3rd
down and reciever out the backfield.
Humphrey lost it!
Tim
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| 31.37 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Reality, 4 people who can't face drugs | Fri Apr 09 1993 00:57 | 15 |
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>> <<< Note 31.36 by QUASER::JACKSONTA "Cmon baby,finish what you started" >>>
>> -< Hum? >-
>> If Marcus is headed to Miami, its probably because Bobby Humphrey
>> said he may not play anymore.
And why might it be that Bobby might not play anymore, could it be the
fact that it may be hard to play when you're behind bars??? At least
he'll stay in shape running from the other prisoners trying to stay a
"virgin". That is if he ends up in jail after his a-hole incidents a
little while back.
JaKe
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| 31.38 | money can buy justice | CNTROL::CHILDS | U think u're something special? Think Again! | Fri Apr 09 1993 09:15 | 8 |
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Jake, I doubt Humphrey is going to jail. With his cash and this probably
being his first time in this kind of trouble he should be able to cop
a plea and worst case end up in a halfway house as an abuser. Best case
would be probation and out patient clinic.
mike
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| 31.39 | | GENRAL::WADE | yippy-I-yo-mama! | Mon Apr 12 1993 15:27 | 9 |
|
This isn't his first time in trouble. He got at least one
DUI (I'm pretty sure it was 2) in Denver. He also used to
like getting beat up in college at the Tuscaloosa bars! :*)
Didn't he get shot in the laig? Could he play even if
allowed? Last I heard, he hadn't called Don Shula yet....
Claybroon
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| 31.40 | Questions of the Day | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Apr 12 1993 18:46 | 13 |
| Now that the Cards have found millions all of a sudden and have offered OLT
Harry Swayne the moon ($5.7 million over 3 years), should the Chargers:
1) Match the offer and keep Swayne (and screw up their salary structure)?
2) Or forget him and reopen talks with Anthony Munoz instead?
They have until Friday to match the Phoenix offer.
Also, now that Da Bears have signed Ironhead Heyward to a contract, will the
Chargers sign Brad Muster to replace Berstine?
Doug
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| 31.41 | Goeas a Goner | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Tue Apr 13 1993 15:36 | 13 |
| The Chargers today or tomorrow will sign and then trade OL Leo Goeas to the
Rams for a '93 fourth round draft choice. If the Rams had signed him on their
own, they would owe S.D. a 3rd round choice instead, a price they felt was too
steep. Beathard wanted to unload him so he agreed to the above procedure in
order to get the deal done.
I always thought Goeas was a good player, but he got hurt all the time and
you couldn't count on him from game to game.
This gives the Chargers back the 4th round pick they lost when they signed
Jerrol Williams.
Doug
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| 31.42 | Swayne Now Highest Paid Charger | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri Apr 16 1993 15:40 | 7 |
| The Chargers matched the Card's offer to Swayne. Beathard is now worried
that discontent will reign with the other players over Swayne's income.
Darren Carrington has been tendered an offer sheet by Tampa Bay. The Chargers
have until early next week to match.
Doug
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| 31.43 | Charger Draft | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Mon Apr 19 1993 14:14 | 13 |
| Well, if the Chargers draft like Buchsbaum says they will, then I'll be
happy.
He has them taking OLB Wayne Simmons in the 1st round. "Simmons and
Junior Seau could be an awesome combination."
And WR Andre Hastings from Georgia in the 2nd. "He could complement
Anthony Miller nicely."
I'll take it!
Live from Charger Central.......Glenn
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| 31.44 | Another overpriced player, thanks to free agency | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Boston Shootout - June 18,19,20! | Tue Apr 20 1993 14:06 | 3 |
| Chargers matched on Carrington
NAZZ
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| 31.45 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | If you see Kay | Tue Apr 20 1993 17:01 | 4 |
| Carrington is overpriced alright. He's ok for being an extra DB,
but not great.
Tim
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| 31.46 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Tue Apr 20 1993 17:43 | 10 |
| I disagree. I think Carrington is great and it was Denver's bad move
to get rid of him. But he's been just super for the Chargers and I
think the secondary and special teams would have been severely hurt by
losing Carrington. Granted he's not Junior Seau, but he's really
important.
Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
Rod who?
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| 31.47 | Never liked Dynasty when it was popular | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Boston Shootout - June 18,19,20! | Wed Apr 21 1993 12:13 | 5 |
| Ever since Blake and Crystal broke up, I've had a hard time keeping up
with the Carringtons. Now is this one playing football Blake's
illegitimate son???
NAZZ
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| 31.48 | Carrington's Valuable | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Wed Apr 21 1993 20:12 | 6 |
| Carrington had 6 interceptions last year as a backup. How many other teams
have a guy like that? Also, he is outstanding on special teams. The Chargers
definitely did not want to lose him. He may be overpriced, but he's no
stiff.
Doug
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| 31.49 | Blue Thursday | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Apr 22 1993 12:13 | 26 |
| Well, Tony Blaylock did it - he signed with the Bears. Drag.
I gotta believe this changes the Charger draft strategy. They can't go into
the season banking on Pope, Vanhorse, or Davis taking up the slack. Maybe one
of those guys will emerge, but I wouldn't count on it.
Hot RUMOR: Beathard has offered the following to Phoenix for their 1st round
pick this coming Sunday (4th overall):
The Chargers 1st round pick (22nd overall)
A fourth round pick
OT Broderick Thompson
DL George Thornton
If that is true and it were to materialize, who would the Chargers take with
that fourth pick overall? (The rest of the rumor had Phoenix then making
another trade to move up from 4th to 1st so they can take Hearst.) So assume
Hearst would be gone. The source where I heard the rumor said the Chargers
want OT Willie Roaf (is that his name?).
Ah, these rumors are usually bogus anyway. I think the Chargers should trade
DOWN, because I don't think that the WRs that will be available at 22 are
worth the pick. If they could pick up another 2nd round pick by trading down,
then they could get a good corner AND wide receiver.
Doug
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| 31.50 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Will u b there when I feed the tree... | Thu Apr 22 1993 15:15 | 1 |
| Marvin Jones?
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| 31.51 | | METSNY::francus | ABP | Thu Apr 22 1993 15:28 | 4 |
|
Speculation is that the Jets will take Jones with the #3 pick.
The Crazy Met
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| 31.52 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Will u b there when I feed the tree... | Thu Apr 22 1993 16:41 | 3 |
| Even with McNeil retiring yesterday? Figured they would be going for
Hearst...
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| 31.53 | | METSNY::francus | ABP | Thu Apr 22 1993 16:53 | 6 |
|
Haven't seen the paper today - not sure how McNeil's retiring will
influence the Jets drafting strategy. I still think they'll go
for a player like Jones.
The Crazy Met
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| 31.54 | Preseason Schedule | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri May 07 1993 13:35 | 14 |
| Preseason
=========
SAT. Aug. 7 NEW ENGLAND 6 PM Local TV
SAT. Aug. 14 at L.A. Rams 7 PM Local TV
SAT. Aug. 21 PHOENIX 6 PM Local TV
SAT. Aug. 28 at San Francisco 6 PM CBS TV
All Times Pacific
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| 31.55 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Fri May 07 1993 18:19 | 3 |
| Thanks Doug.....
Glenn
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| 31.56 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Tue Jun 01 1993 13:16 | 5 |
| June 1st today.......getting closer to training camp......
Live from Charger Central........Glenn
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| 31.57 | This is the Boring Time of the Football Year | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Tue Jun 01 1993 15:22 | 18 |
| Yes, it's getting closer to camp. But I've heard nothing other than the
signing of Stan Brock, which I think was a sigh of relief.
I still haven't heard about the status of any signings of key players. Did
you hear about the modifications just made by the NFL (and approved by the
MNFLPA I believe) with respect the franchise players? It seems the Chargers
have a choice in the O'Neal negotiation. They can offer him a contract at the
average of the five highest paid DLs, which is $2.9 million/yr. (ouch!), or
they can offer him $1.7 million and then let him go see what he can get on
the open market. At that point the Chargers could choose to match any other
offer O'Neal receives.
Also, the Chargers have yet to sign Humphries to a long term contract, which
apparently both sides want. Plummer is still unsigned, and the Faiders are
interested. As far as I know they haven't signed any draft picks yet either.
Why does this stuff take so long, especially now with this rookie cap?
Doug
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| 31.58 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Jun 01 1993 15:25 | 4 |
|
I thought this was the best part of the football year :-)
The Crazy Met
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| 31.59 | O'Neal Free to Test Market | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Tue Jun 15 1993 17:32 | 17 |
| Yesterday the Chargers withdrew their designation of Leslie O'Neal as the
"Franchise Player," therefore leaving a $1.7 million offer on the table for
this year. If they had left him designated as the franchise guy, the
Chargers would have to pay him $2.9 million this year (the average of the
five highest contracted players at his position).
If someone else signs him, the Chargers can match the contract offer, or
receive 2 1st round picks in return.
I guess the Chargers are rolling the dice that nobody will offer him more
than $3 million a year, or maybe they want the 2 draft picks.
This move also gives the team the opportunity to so designate the real
franchise player, Junior Seau, after next season.
Doug
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| 31.60 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Jun 15 1993 17:36 | 4 |
| If he isn't their franchis player why can they match the offer or
get draft picks for him, shouldn't he be a free agent??
The Crazy Met
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| 31.61 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Tue Jun 15 1993 19:08 | 10 |
| I'm not sure what the answer is, but Tampa Bay did the same thing with
Gruber, as did some other team that escapes me presently. But it was in
the papers this morning.
If memory serves, I believe this deal was negotiated subsequent to the
original agreement, which surprises me, cuz it seems heavily loaded in
favor of the owners. But I know that the deal for the team is the opportunity
to match any offer or two 1sts from the raiding team.
Doug
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| 31.62 | | DECWET::METZGER | PBS = Profitable Barney Station | Tue Jun 15 1993 20:21 | 5 |
|
Did they name him one of the transitional players? I know that Houston isn't
going to match any offers put out to givens or white...
Metz
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| 31.63 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Jun 16 1993 10:25 | 2 |
| Metz may be right. It sounds like they've downgraded him from a
franchise player to a transitional player.
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| 31.64 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Tide is high but I'm holding on | Wed Jun 16 1993 11:02 | 3 |
| If someone else signs him, SD gets 2 #1 picks or they can match the
offer. They hope it doesn't make him a top 5 player...
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| 31.65 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Wed Jun 16 1993 14:19 | 10 |
| I don't think O'Neal is now considered a "transitional" player, because they
already have two of those; Swayne and Harmon. I think this is a special
deal because of the fuss made by the players that were designated "franchise"
players. If you remember - originally these guys weren't even allowed to
go get an open market offer, they were just guaranteed top 5 money.
So they bitched about it, and the owners and players' association came up
with this compromise. That's what I think is going on anyway.
Doug
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| 31.66 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri Jun 18 1993 16:36 | 8 |
| Chargers cut DB Donnie Elder. Yawn.
They signed PK John Carney and a couple of lower round draft picks.
Camp opens July 15.
Doug (who's starved for Charger news)
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| 31.67 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Mon Jul 19 1993 11:34 | 7 |
|
Chargers signed all their draftpicks including #1 Darrien Gordon,
except for #2 pick RB Natrone Means.
Live from Charger Central.......Glenn
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| 31.68 | Means signed | HBAHBA::HAAS | Lower Melvin | Mon Jul 19 1993 11:58 | 3 |
| Natrone Means signed over the weekend. Supposedly a 4-year deal.
TTom
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| 31.69 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Mon Jul 19 1993 12:56 | 7 |
|
Yep, just read that also. Seems like that may be all the
draftees, now if we can sign Humphries.
Live from Charger Central......Glenn
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| 31.70 | Thinkin' of changin' my oldest son's name to Natrone | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Take me for a little while | Mon Jul 19 1993 15:20 | 3 |
| Is Natrone Means a cool name or what?
NAZZ
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| 31.71 | | ROYALT::ASHE | I like mine with french fried potatoes | Mon Jul 19 1993 15:37 | 1 |
| Natrone Nazzaro... his nickname could be "Mr. NaNa"
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| 31.72 | (on his leaving) Hey Heyyy good bye... | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Mon Jul 19 1993 16:24 | 1 |
|
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| 31.73 | Prediction - Means Will Be Awesome! | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Tue Jul 20 1993 18:00 | 17 |
| Steve Hendrickson was interviewed on a radio show last night and he was
praising two rookies, Means and 4th round pick DL Ray Lee Johnson.
He said Means is just like Butts in terms of size and speed but there is one
major difference in their styles. As big as he is, Butts still tries to put
on a move and go around the tackler. Means just runs right over tacklers.
Hendrickson was definitely impressed.
But he sounded even more impressed with Johnson. This might be another one
of those low round steals that Beathard pulls off from time to time. (Remember,
Beathard traded to move up for this pick in the 4th round on draft day.)
Hendrickson said the offensive lineman were saying that Johnson is easily the
fastest guy they have to go against in practice, which is saying something
with Seau, O'Neal, and Grossman around.
Doug
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| 31.74 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Jul 20 1993 19:07 | 3 |
| who the bleep is Steve Hendrickson ??
The Crazy Met
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| 31.75 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Tue Jul 20 1993 20:26 | 8 |
| Never heard of Steve Hendrickson?? He is a wild-man special teams expert
who also plays a mutliple of positions.....linebacker, running back, even
down defensive lineman. But mostly special teams.
The Chargers got him a couple of years ago from the 49ers. He even has a
ring.
Doug
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| 31.76 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Wed Jul 21 1993 00:31 | 4 |
| Well I don't follow football that closely.
The Crazy Met
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| 31.77 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Fresh off a week of I & I | Wed Jul 21 1993 00:40 | 5 |
| Sounds like a personal problem to me, TC(whatever).
JaKe
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| 31.78 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Wed Jul 21 1993 02:07 | 4 |
| Nope just a little bit of sanity.
The Crazy Met
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| 31.79 | Football, a real mans sport | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Yes,Calgon took her away! | Wed Jul 21 1993 10:12 | 4 |
| TCM, You can't have to much sanity if ya like to watch baseball
on tv;^) If anything you go brain dead from boredom.....
Tim
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| 31.80 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Wed Jul 21 1993 11:18 | 5 |
| Ha! Football probably has fewer minutes of action per game than baseball.
And whats this thing about the clock running out on 'ya. Real manly sports
shouldn't depend on an artificial time limit.
The Crazy Met
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| 31.81 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Yes,Calgon took her away! | Wed Jul 21 1993 16:22 | 7 |
| Baseball has more action than football? I don't see how, unless your
talking about the pitcher only.
Real manly sports won't have the game called because of rain
sprinkles. And yes domes are for sissies!
Tim
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| 31.82 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Wed Jul 21 1993 16:45 | 14 |
| > And yes domes are for sissies!
Lots of football teams play in those domes; even in places like New Orleans
where it rarely gets that cold.
Houston,Detroit,Minnesota,New Orleans,Indianapolis,Seattle is 6 domes NFL
teams use.
Toronto (but it does open), Houston, Seattle, Minnesota are domes used in
baseball. Draw your own conclusion.
The Crazy Met
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| 31.83 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Yes,Calgon took her away! | Wed Jul 21 1993 16:58 | 7 |
| They ain't manly teams.... Of course I've been saying that for
years. I just hope they never build one in Denver. The real grass and
snow elements are the way it should be. Its not for quiche eaters;^)
I've never heard of a game being called do to rain!
Tim
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| 31.84 | | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Wed Jul 21 1993 17:02 | 7 |
|
Typical Bronco fan attitude. The Rockies' franchise should be revoked!
I knew they should have given the team to a city that deserved it, like
Buffalo...
glenn
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| 31.85 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Yes,Calgon took her away! | Thu Jul 22 1993 09:30 | 11 |
| glenn,
Obviously you like baseball more than football. Football has more
action, hard hitting, grunting and sweating. Baseball has alot of
chewing and spitting.
I like baseball when I can attend a game, but on tv,
zzzzzzzzzz.....Even at games its hard to pay alot of attention unless
its a slug fest.
Tim
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| 31.86 | We'll make sure Roger Clemens never becomes a Rocky! | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Thu Jul 22 1993 10:25 | 9 |
|
> Even at games its hard to pay alot of attention unless
> its a slug fest
Thank you for seconding the motion that the Denver franchise should be
revoked! ;-)
glenn
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| 31.87 | | GENRAL::WADE | MyGetUpAndGoMustaGotUpAndWent | Thu Jul 22 1993 11:00 | 9 |
|
Well, we hope ole Rocket never becomes a Rocky. We wouldn't
want somebody who chokes in da big games. MikeyC. told me
Rog is bad about that..... :*)
BTW, we already have a guy like that in Denver with the
initials J.E. Haha, beat ya tuit!
Claybone
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| 31.88 | And I ain't even no steenking moderator! | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Take me for a little while | Thu Jul 22 1993 12:31 | 3 |
| What do the previous four notes have to do with the Chargers?
NAZZ
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| 31.89 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Yes,Calgon took her away! | Thu Jul 22 1993 12:41 | 5 |
| The original LDUC (sorta) was about which sport was more manly.
I'll take it to the rockies file.
Tim
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| 31.90 | Byrd Out for the Year | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Wed Jul 28 1993 19:11 | 16 |
| In a development surely cheered by the rest of the AFC West, the Chargers today
announced that cornerback Gill Byrd will be lost to the team for the season.
Yesterday in practice Byrd suffered a knee injury in non-contact drills.
Exploratory arthroscopic surgery today confirmed that he had torn not one,
not two, but three knee ligaments.
The recurperation period is expected to be 12-16 months.
Comment: The only good thing about this is that it happened at the beginning
of training camp, while the team still has a chance to recover. But this is
not the team's strongest area, and it's going to hurt.
I'd say this is it for Byrd's career. He ain't a spring chicken.
Doug
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| 31.91 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Wed Jul 28 1993 19:20 | 8 |
|
OUCH! OUCH! OUCH!
Live from Charger Central......Glenn
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| 31.92 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Yes,Calgon took her away! | Thu Jul 29 1993 14:59 | 3 |
| I'm sure Elway isn't unhappy since Bird has his number(s)....
Tim
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| 31.93 | Walker Goes Down | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri Jul 30 1993 13:28 | 13 |
| TE Derrick Walker underwent arthroscopic surgery on HIS knee yesterday and
will be out 4-6 weeks.
Two starters in three days. If this keeps up I'm gonna get seriously bummed.
Chargers have now lost both cornerback starters from last year. (Byrd/Blaylock)
Vanhorse and Donald Frank are now penciled in as starting CBs. Can you
spell "zone" pass defense?
Re: last .... Byrd had 9 career INTs against Elway.
Doug
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| 31.94 | G7 | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Wed Aug 04 1993 17:36 | 8 |
|
For those of you with satellite dishes who wish to watch the SD/NE
game on Saturday, it'll be on Galaxy 7, transponder unknown.
This has been a public service announcement.
Live from Charger Central.......Glenn
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| 31.95 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Thu Aug 05 1993 09:38 | 8 |
|
Glenn,
I must have been out of the satellite loop for too long, I don't recall
seeing Galaxy 7 up there from 5 years ago, where is it located?
Marc
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| 31.96 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Thu Aug 05 1993 15:35 | 5 |
|
Marc, G7 is between G5 and S3.
Live from Charger Central.......Glenn
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| 31.97 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Thu Aug 05 1993 17:43 | 7 |
|
>Marc, G7 is between G5 and S3.
Thanks.
Marc
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| 31.98 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Earn More Sessions By Sleaving | Fri Aug 06 1993 17:41 | 4 |
| G7 transponder 22
Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
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| 31.99 | Another Injury | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Aug 12 1993 19:16 | 8 |
| It appeared that DT Shawn Lee had taken away Blaise Winter's starting position -
that is until it was discovered yesterday that he has a broken leg.
He will be out 4-6 weeks. The team had previously thought that he had a
strained or bruised calf muscle, or something like that.
Doug
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| 31.100 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Wed Aug 18 1993 10:31 | 5 |
| Chargers looked fine in dispatching the Rams last Saturday night.
The first line looked especially good to me.
Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
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| 31.101 | Hmm. Bad angle. | SWAM2::MASSEY_VI | It's all in the cue | Wed Aug 18 1993 14:57 | 8 |
| >The first line looked especially good to me..
Try looking at it from the backside. Looks durn good to me from that
angle.
Gin /aka's to be mentioned later.
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| 31.102 | | CAM3::WAY | She said I'm her putz | Wed Aug 18 1993 15:27 | 12 |
| >
> Try looking at it from the backside. Looks durn good to me from that
> angle.
For some reason this makes me think of the remark Terry Bradshaw's
center made at Terry's induction into the HoF. Mike Child's tells
that story better than me though....
'Saw
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| 31.103 | Do ME (tm) | CNTROL::CHILDS | Vo-La-Ray-Oh-Oh-Can-Sa-Ray-WowWow | Wed Aug 18 1993 15:36 | 12 |
| >> For some reason this makes me think of the remark Terry Bradshaw's
>> center made at Terry's induction into the HoF. Mike Child's tells
>> that story better than me though....
thanks Saw. You're making me feel my age cause I can't remember the
dang story !$%*&^%&#)_@+_=$$%#^&!!!!!!!!!
mike
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| 31.104 | | CAM3::WAY | She said I'm her putz | Wed Aug 18 1993 15:49 | 14 |
| >
> thanks Saw. You're making me feel my age cause I can't remember the
> dang story !$%*&^%&#)_@+_=$$%#^&!!!!!!!!!
Oh, well it had something to do with his center saying that he wished
Terry could stick his hands under his butt one more time or something
like that.
You told it to me once and I was rolling.....
'Saw
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| 31.105 | | MKFSB::LONG | All gave some, some gave all | Wed Aug 18 1993 15:52 | 8 |
| That probably woulda been Mike Webster. He was the center for
most, if not all, of Bradshaw's career.
I seem to recall hearing a real funny story along these lines,
but I can't for the life of me remember it.
billl
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| 31.106 | | PEAKS::WOESTEHOFF | | Wed Aug 18 1993 18:36 | 5 |
| The way I remember it, Bradshaw said that he never would of made it to
the HOF if he hadn't had his hands on Webster's butt at the start of
every play.
Keith
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| 31.107 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Thu Aug 26 1993 12:19 | 6 |
|
Leslie O'Neal has signed. Ronnie Harmon has signed. Everyone's
in camp. Life is good.
Live from Charger Central ......... Glenn
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| 31.108 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Thu Aug 26 1993 15:17 | 9 |
|
Chargers play 49ers this week on National TV.
Live from Charger Central ......... Glenn
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| 31.109 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Real mans sport is starting! | Thu Aug 26 1993 18:24 | 3 |
| Didn't one of the DL (Lee?) get hurt?
Elway watcher wants to know;^)
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| 31.110 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Aug 30 1993 15:17 | 15 |
| No, in fact the DLs on the Chargers are getting healthy. O'Neal and Winter
both played Saturday. That's the good news. The bad news is that those two,
along with the rest of the team, SUCKED against the Niners.
Shawn Lee may be back this Sunday, but if not certainly by the Donk game at
Mile High (week 2). By then the Chargers will have a full complement. Lee
would probably replace Winter as a starting DT.
Grossman was held out as a precautionary measure. So for this Sunday it's
O'Neal at Right End, Grossman at Left End, Mims and Winter in the middle.
Not bad. And yes, Elway will be runnin' for his life. But that gives me
mixed emotions, cause that's when he's at his best.
Doug
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| 31.111 | Still a very tough team | OURGNG::RIGGEN | Jeff Riggen 592-5249 | Mon Aug 30 1993 15:21 | 5 |
| What happened to the Cahrger Defense.
Seems that the 3rd string QB Musgrave had all day to throw and R. Waters ran
all over the Defense.
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| 31.112 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Aug 30 1993 17:36 | 18 |
| Set_excuse_ON: The Chargers had some guys who hadn't played for a while in
the game, like O'Neal (finished holdout), Winter (hurt last 4 weeks), Reggie
White (2nd year scrub). And, they held some guys out for minor injury reasons:
Grossman (neck), Vanhorse (muscle pull), Lee (knee). As a result there was
no pressure up front.
Set_excuse_OFF: They couldn't handle the 49ers patented WR crossing patterns.
And Darrien Gordon got torched several times by Rice and Taylor. Welcome to
the NFL.
All I could think of was the VCRs working overtime in KC getting tapes of that
stuff. Chargers better learn how to stop those short throws or Montana will
have them for lunch.
Ross was not a happy camper after the game to say the least. Look for them to
take it out on the Hawks this weekend.
Doug
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| 31.113 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Sep 02 1993 14:00 | 10 |
| Stan Humphries is now listed as "Questionable" for Sunday's game. He did not
practice yesterday.
Harry Swayne also has not been able to practice. Eric Moten is working at
left tackle. Zandofsky is working at Moten's left guard position.
All this does not bode well, even if it is just the Seahacks coming up.
Doug
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| 31.114 | Swayne Down | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri Sep 03 1993 13:50 | 2 |
| OLT Harry Swayne is out for at least 2 more weeks, Bobby Ross confirmed
this morning. Moten will plan left tackle.
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| 31.115 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Tue Sep 07 1993 01:40 | 11 |
|
Chargers beat Seahawks in 18-12 yawner. Charger couldn't get it
into the end zone. Seahawks got their only td when a tipped pass was
caught and run in for td by Seahawk D. Seahawks got a safety on last
play of the game when John Kidd, Charger punter, purposely ran out the
clock by running out of the endzone.
Live from Charger Central ....... Glenn
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| 31.116 | Some people would be seriously PO'd with a safety like that | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Reggie Lewis - R.I.P. | Tue Sep 07 1993 10:54 | 3 |
| I hope the line wasn't seven points!!!!!!!!!!!
NAZZ
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| 31.117 | INJURY REPORT | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Tue Sep 07 1993 12:03 | 10 |
| Nate Lewis is going to miss this Sunday's game as a result of the injury he
got against the Seahawks.
Butts aggravated his thigh bruise, which is why he didn't return after his
appearance in the 3rd quarter.
Humphries should be able to practice all week, which he obviously needs.
Harmon could use the work too (3 blatant dropped passes).
Doug
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| 31.118 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Tue Sep 07 1993 13:29 | 9 |
|
Nazz, I couldn't believe it either. The line was 12 points, but
why have your punter run out of the endzone on the last play of the
game? Just have him wait till the clock runs out and then through
an incomplete pass. Why give the opposition 2 more points?
Live from Charger Central........Glenn
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| 31.119 | He's Back !!! | QUASER::HUNTER | Isn't That Right, Al | Tue Sep 07 1993 13:29 | 7 |
| Next on the list... The one and only "MIGHTY DONKS".
Glenn, hows about a little P_Name Bet ??
MIGHTY DONKS by 7.5
BG
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| 31.120 | A W is a W, whether by 2 or 40 | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Sep 07 1993 13:48 | 4 |
| �Why give the opposition 2 more points?
Because point spreads matter only to bookies and gamblers. To players
and coaches, only the W counts.
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| 31.121 | Prevents injury and turnover... | SNAX::ERICKSON | Please walk under my tree stand.... | Tue Sep 07 1993 14:21 | 7 |
|
By running out of the endzone it prevents the punter from getting
hit and potentially fumbling the ball or throwing interception. Also if
there happened to be time left on the clock. It would be a free kick, so
no potential of a blocked kick. Only stopping the run back on the play.
Ron
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| 31.122 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Tue Sep 07 1993 17:53 | 12 |
| I was there for that intentional safety and I really don't get it. Even if
worst happened a TD would have made it 18-17, and it was definitely going to
be the last play of the game.
They said they didn't want to get Kidd injured, but all he had to do was
quickly kick it out of bounds, and the game would've been over.
Somebody actually called the talk show after the game and complained that this
could cost the Chargers at the end of the year on some obscure tie-breaker of
points differential.
Doug
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| 31.123 | ex | QUASER::HUNTER | How Do You Spell Win... G L Y N | Thu Sep 09 1993 19:09 | 4 |
|
DONKS ROOL... Bolts are 3-20 in Pile-It-High since 1970...
BG
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| 31.124 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Fri Sep 10 1993 13:56 | 3 |
|
Jack....... Y A W N !
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| 31.125 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri Sep 10 1993 14:28 | 8 |
| Well, I guess the Chargers should just mail it in. 3-20 at Mile Hi, so there's
no chance. Why show up? Let's just save the airfare.
It's San Diego's turn in the AFC West.
Chargers in a squeaker. Mile Hi fans keep Donks in the game.
Doug
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| 31.126 | I'm Concerned | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Sep 13 1993 12:52 | 13 |
| Several things bugged me about the Chargers mostly lackluster performance
yesterday. The offensive and defensive lines didn't play well at all.
Receivers continue to drop balls. And when they had the Donks reeling in
the 3rd quarter, they didn't finish the job, which indicates a lack of
killer instinct. And when is Stan going to start playing well? He missed
some open receivers as well, one a sure TD bomb.
Glenn, remember what you said about Bieniemy on the phone Friday? He's gotta
go.
And I would start Means next week if I was the coach.
Doug
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| 31.127 | No Reeves = Super Bowl ? | CSC32::A_PARRACO | As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs | Sat Sep 18 1993 11:35 | 7 |
| Awful quiet in this note after last week's trouncing by Denver ....
Coincidence, or has the tail not come out from between the legs yet ?
((:^))
- acp
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| 31.128 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Mon Sep 20 1993 13:58 | 9 |
| Well, we've been talkin' in the Broncos notesfile (note 30).
Chargers squeeked by one on Sunday beating the oilers by 1 pt on 6
fg's. Chargers have a bye week this week and need to install an
offense.
Glenn
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| 31.129 | Bieniemy at it Again | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Sep 27 1993 11:47 | 7 |
| As if he wasn't already in the doghouse, now Eric Bieniemy gets arrested
in Boulder Saturday night after the Colorado-Miami game.
This guy's turnin' out to be a piece of work. They won't be able to get a
5th rounder for him in trade.
Doug
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| 31.130 | FUMBLE!!! | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Real man's sport has started! | Mon Sep 27 1993 14:10 | 1 |
|
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| 31.131 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Fri Oct 01 1993 00:27 | 9 |
|
I'm out on vacation for the next 2.5 weeks. See you later.
GO CHARGERS!
Live from Charger Central ..... Glenn
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| 31.132 | Sports 1993 version of HAL | OURGNG::RIGGEN | Sales gets commisions we get "JACK" | Thu Oct 07 1993 17:22 | 7 |
| Glenn.........Doug...........
Hey where did they go ????????????
lost to the seachickens....
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| 31.133 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Thu Oct 07 1993 17:25 | 1 |
| Riggen, see .131.
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| 31.134 | Mac Glenn is really reading this ... | OURGNG::RIGGEN | Sales gets commisions we get "JACK" | Thu Oct 07 1993 17:34 | 2 |
| Where did Doug go ???
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| 31.135 | I'm Still Here...... | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Oct 07 1993 18:35 | 19 |
| Sometimes the job interferes with recreation, ya know.....
I had no comment for that ugly affair last Sunday, and I was bummed out anyway
'cause Eric Moten blew out his knee during garbage time at the end of the game.
With all the injuries the Chargers are having I'm beginning to wonder
if much will get done this year.
ON THE BRIGHT SIDE, Ross finally faced reality and made Friesz the starter for
the Pitt game. And I have known all along that the tough part of SD's schedule
was the beginning of the season. They only have one home game from week 3
(Houston) thru week 11 (Chicago), and that one is against the cult figure
Chiefs next week. (There are a couple of byes in there). So if they can keep
playing .500 ball through the rough stretch, 5 of the following 7 are at home.
And the season finale is at Tampa Bay.
Hope springs eternal.
Doug
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| 31.136 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Fri Oct 08 1993 11:09 | 7 |
|
If you are a Charger fan, then you better hope that they don't score a
touchdown this week. They are 0-2 when they get a touchdown and 2-0
when they don't.
Marc
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| 31.137 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Mon Oct 25 1993 15:12 | 10 |
|
Things look pretty bleak for the Chargers now. The offensive line is
really decimated. Moten is out for the year. Hall is fine. Swayne
came back from an injury and the whole right side of the oline is new.
This is the simple reason for lack of success of the Chargers this
year.
Live from Charger Central ........ Glenn
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| 31.138 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Tue Oct 26 1993 15:38 | 47 |
|
I just thought I would relay some comments that
Beathard made on the "Chargers Report" show that
appears after every Monday night football game.
Beathard made the following comments:
- He felt Friesz played "well enough" to win the
KC game but that it was unfortunate that there
were breakdowns in the special teams play
(i.e. blocked field goals).
The way Beathard said "well enough", imho,
indicates that he thinks Friesz is just ok.
- It is up to Stan to prove in practice that he
is the better QB.
- He can't put a finger on what's going wrong
with the team but he felt that the team
is coming on based upon their play against
KC.
- I don't recall anybody making any comments
on guard Eric Moten. He tore up his knee
during the Seattle game when Friesz was
tackled on Eric's back leg. Eric underwent
knee surgery, is out for the season, and
sufferred some significant nerve damage.
The nerve damage is effecting the motor
functions below his knee. Keoki(sp?) the
team trainer indicated that it is not
uncommon to have nerve damage but that
Eric's nerve damage was significant.
- Jerrol Williams is out for the season
with a shoulder injury. Ross said that
his injury was similars to Bernstine
but worse. Steve Hendrickson is filling
in. Steve is 5'11" 250lbs and appears
to be a really nice guy(he was very
nice to the kids watching minicamp).
The way I look at it, I see the Chargers having a hard time making .500.
Live from Charger Central ...... Glenn
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| 31.139 | Gut Check Sunday | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Tue Oct 26 1993 19:25 | 31 |
| I agree with your comments in the last two replies, Glenn. I think it is
interesting that Beathard would avoid the real reason for the loss to the
Chiefs - Coaching mistakes. I'm a Ross fan, but he let Reilly (QB coach who
calls the plays) really screw up the last drive that resulted in the 2nd blocked
field goal. They marched all the way down the field being liberal in
play selection - until they got into the red zone. Then Reilly got
conservative. The people in my section were saying before the last set of
downs that the Chargers HAD TO GO FOR THE TD! That would have put SD ahead by
11 points (21-10) with 4.5 min to go. Settling for a FG only meant that
Montana would merely tie the game and send it into OT. They had to make
Montana score twice to beat them. It was screwed up philosophy and play
calling that cost the Chargers that game.
As for this Sunday, the weakest part of the Chargers team (offensive line)
goes against the Raiders strength (they lead the league in sacks). I'm afraid
it looks pretty bleak for the bolts this weekend.
So now Jerrol Williams is on IR, out for the year. There's a wasted $1.7 mil
for you. I figure he won't be back next year, cuz he didn't do much when he
was healthy anyway.
Humphries had a second medical opinion on his right shoulder, and the diagnosis
came back the same - a very deep bruise. He status is still the same; he is
in and out with throwing velocity and can't be counted on. If Friesz goes down
the Chargers are done for this year, which they may be anyway due to this
plethora of injuries.
More later,
Doug
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| 31.140 | Defense is still good | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Need a nap? Watch tv baseball! | Wed Oct 27 1993 21:16 | 4 |
| The injuries have hurt them, and maybe last years 5th place schedule
has caught up to them, so to speak....
Tim
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| 31.141 | Schedule Has Very Little to Do With It | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Oct 28 1993 12:51 | 31 |
| So far this year they've played the same exact schedule as last year.
The only thing you can say about the schedule is that when the team got on a
roll last year, it started with the easier stretch of the schedule. Otherwise
they played well because of good health and good coaching.
This year, playing the SAME set of teams as last year (thus far), they haven't
won due to injuries and turnover from free agency. You lose guys like Gill Byrd,
Eric Moten, and your QB and it will have an impact.
This year the tough part of the schedule (which they're in now) coincides with
a lot of injuries (including a hurt starting QB), so they lose.
Tim, let's take a flipped situation; do you think Seattle is doing well
this year merely because they have a 5th place schedule? I think not. This
year they have stayed healthy and have a good QB. Last year the 'Hawks were
decimated by injuries and had a stiff at Quarterback.
I think they should do away with the so called "5th Place Schedule" anyway.
I don't think it's right. There is so much parity in the NFL that in many
cases teams finish 5th because of injuries, not because they are lousy. So the
following year they end up playing a different set of opponents and have
the opportunity to clean up. Not that they do, just that the opportunity is
there. And what about the teams in 4-Team divisions? The last place finishers
in those divisions don't get any "5th place schedule." It's a joke.
My worst fear is that the Chargers will suffer even more injuries in '93 and go
completely into the toilet, finishing 5th. Then next year when they are
HEALTHY, clean up again - at which point I'll again have to listen to Donk and
Faid fans say they're winning again only because of the schedule. What bunk.
Doug
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| 31.142 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | I am airless, a vacuum child | Thu Oct 28 1993 13:04 | 12 |
|
My worst fear is that the Chargers will suffer even more injuries in '93 and go
completely into the toilet, finishing 5th. Then next year when they are
HEALTHY, clean up again - at which point I'll again have to listen to Donk and
Faid fans say they're winning again only because of the schedule. What bunk.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Donk fans better not talk they went through this route to the playoffs more
times than Madona groupes herself in a nightly concert.
mike
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| 31.143 | | GENRAL::WADE | Pull! | Thu Oct 28 1993 15:48 | 6 |
|
That's funny. I remember the Donks going to two Super Bowls
in a row (ie the 2cd year they had to do it with a 1st place
schedule).
Claybone
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| 31.144 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Thu Oct 28 1993 16:00 | 2 |
| That's funny, Claybone. I figured you Donk fans would have worked hard
to erase the memories of those Bronco SuperBowl appearances.
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| 31.145 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Oct 28 1993 19:40 | 8 |
| The Donks of a few years ago are a perfect illustration of this debate. They
went to the Super Bowl after playing a 5th place schedule. They "earned" the
fifth place schedule because they finished last the year before when they
were RACKED WITH INJURIES. Then they got healthy the next year and won 11
games. But they were a good team that year. When was that, 1990? (before the
'91 Sup. Bowl)? Can't recall - big Freudian slip.
Doug
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| 31.146 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | I am airless, a vacuum child | Fri Oct 29 1993 08:57 | 5 |
|
sure they went back to back but the front end of the back to back was acheived
off a 5th place schedule.....
mike
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| 31.147 | Raiders 27 NonCharged 6 | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Fri Oct 29 1993 08:58 | 1 |
|
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| 31.148 | | GENRAL::WADE | Pull! | Fri Oct 29 1993 13:03 | 11 |
|
Nothin' funny about it Mac. Besides, how could we forget those
SB losses? We have all you friendly folks in here to remind
us! :*)
MikeC. I was just debunking your *implied* fib that the Donks
can't make the playoffs with anything but a 5th place schedule.
Maybe if you let us all know how many times Madonna gropes
herself in concert, we could start a debate from there. ;*)
Claybone
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| 31.149 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Need a nap? Watch tv baseball! | Fri Oct 29 1993 13:46 | 10 |
| Are you sure that the donks had a 5th place schedule the year they
went to their 2nd SB (the one against the jints?) They played the NFC
east that year. I don't remember what their record was the year before
that, but last place?
And Doug I don't recall saying the bolts did last based soley on the
5th place schedule. I asked if it caught up to them. I forgot about
injuries...
Tim
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| 31.150 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Fri Oct 29 1993 16:17 | 17 |
| Hey Tim......I didn't mean to take out my "5th place schedule" frustrations
on you. When I read your note I remember Todd Christensen saying the same
thing on TV, as well as all the Faider fans on the radio out here. Made me
kinda lose it......
I thought the Donks had that one real bad year, and there was a lot of talk
the next year that they were winning a lot playing that "last place schedule."
But then the Chargers sucked in those days so the Donks might not have finished
last.
On another front, the Chargers signed TE Mike Dyal, formerly a Chief and
Raider, as insurance for (what else?) often injured TE Derrick Walker.
Probably a low scoring game Sunday.......
Doug
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| 31.151 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Mon Nov 01 1993 14:42 | 12 |
|
Well, they did it! They took the bye week and put in a offense.
It was strange, they ran the ball AND threw the ball. They even ran a
(God forbid) reverse! I can't believe it. And the D made a big play,
even 2 big plays. They even put pressure on Hoss. It was amazing!
They beat the Raiders, for the 3rd straight time in the Colesium.
Live from Charger Central ..... Glenn
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| 31.152 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Need a nap? Watch tv baseball! | Wed Nov 03 1993 13:33 | 8 |
| Thanks bolts!
No sweat Doug. I know the donks made best of their 5th place
schedule in 90? The year they coulda, shoulda, woulda, but didn't beat
Buffalo in the AFC championship game since treadmill couldn't make a
FG, and the offense couldn't score until it was to late...
Tim
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| 31.153 | Chargers Win Again | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Mon Nov 08 1993 10:50 | 19 |
|
Chargers had an offense for the 2nd week in a row and beat Minnesota
30-17 and are now 1 game out of first place (after GB beats KC
tonight).
Rookie Natrone Means recorded his first career 100-yard rushing
game and scored the winning touchdown early in the fourth quarter
Sunday to rally the San Diego Chargers to a 30-17 victory over
the Minnesota Vikings.
Means, who had 105 yards on 17 carries, scored from seven yards out
4:48 into the fourth quarter to give the Chargers, 4-4, a 23-17 lead.
John Friesz completed 20 of 32 passes for 268 yards and two touchdowns.
Anthony Miller caught seven of the passes for 142 yards.
Not bad. Of their last 8 games, 5 are at home.
Live from Charger Central ..... Glenn
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| 31.154 | The Roll is Beginning | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Nov 08 1993 12:50 | 19 |
| Friesz also had about 5 passes dropped (which continues to be a problem, BTW),
so he coulda been 25 out of 32 or so.
I said several notes ago that the Chargers needed to be 4-4 after the first
8 games and they've done it!! Not the way I had hoped, but they pulled it off.
Now they're ready for the stretch run. There is only one other AFC team
(Seattle) that still has 5 home games left, so the Chargers are in good shape
in spite of their injuries. Speaking of which, Nate Lewis suppopsedly is out
for the next 2-4 weeks with his sprained knee.
The stupid pathetic Bears gave one to the Raiders yesterday, so just for that
the Chargers are going to beat them senseless this Sunday night.
Tonight I'm a big Pack fan.
Doug
P.S. Is Bobby Ross a great coach or what!!!
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| 31.155 | Gave Another Home Game Away ...this time to Bears 16-13 | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Wed Nov 17 1993 11:59 | 1 |
| Re. last (my own entry).......Some Roll.
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| 31.156 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Need a nap? Watch tv baseball! | Wed Nov 17 1993 12:07 | 3 |
| Thats life in the AFC west this year Doug...
Tim
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| 31.157 | | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Thu Nov 18 1993 11:56 | 4 |
| I can't believe how the rest of the AFC West is letting the Chiefs run
away with the division.
Doug
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| 31.158 | Is Ross Leaving? | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Wed Nov 24 1993 18:25 | 12 |
| Today Ken Hatfield tendered his resignation from Clemson University. For the
last few weeks there has been speculation that Bobby Ross had
interviewed for the Clemson U. position that was rumored to be coming available
at the end of the year.
The players sure look like they think they're playing for a lame duck
head coach.
Is he as good as gone???
Doug
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| 31.159 | | MKFSA::LONG | Help! I've lost my OBL and can't get up! | Tue Nov 30 1993 11:13 | 7 |
| I guess everyone else was as interested in the game last night as I was.
Did anyone happen to catch the final score?
billl
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| 31.160 | somewhere around 37-zip I think | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Carol's wearing maternity clothes | Tue Nov 30 1993 11:15 | 1 |
|
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| 31.161 | 31-0 | HBAHBA::HAAS | Schlegelian Dialectic | Tue Nov 30 1993 11:31 | 12 |
| San Diego 0 14 3 14--31
Indianapolis 0 0 0 0-- 0
First Quarter
No Scoring
Second Quarter
SD--Jefferson 39 pass from Humphries (Carney kick), 0:48
SD--Lewis 8 pass from Humphries (Carney kick), 14:26
Third Quarter
SD--FG Carney 36
Fourth Quarter
SD--Butts 1 run (Carney kick), 0:02
SD--Bieniemy 4 run (Carney kick), 5:29
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| 31.162 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie is one year old!!! | Tue Nov 30 1993 11:34 | 9 |
| Yea, Jeff George makes Bernie Kosar look like a Samari Warrior. What a wuss.
When he did the "slide" thing a yard short of a first down in the first half, I
was rooting for him to get creamed the rest of the game (at least until it put
me to sleep before halftime).
My sis and BIL, season ticket holders of the Chargers, planned their east cost
trip so that they could stop in Indy to see this game. At least they are happy.
=Bob=
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| 31.163 | A real stinker | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Tue Nov 30 1993 11:49 | 4 |
| Can't wait to see the TV ratings for this clinker. I usually tune in to
part of the Monday night game,but not this one.
I can't believe Indy stunk up the joint so much on national TV at home.
|
| 31.164 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Babe Hockey | Tue Nov 30 1993 11:53 | 4 |
| Was there a football game on last night? I was watching Overboard,
much more entertaining, though I could laugh at Indy or Kurt Russell(-)
Tim
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| 31.165 | over/under interest | HBAHBA::HAAS | Schlegelian Dialectic | Tue Nov 30 1993 11:55 | 5 |
| About the onliest intrigue in the game lasted night was the over/under
line, which was 37. San Diego scored the 31st point with over 9 minutes
left in the game.
TTom
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| 31.166 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Tue Nov 30 1993 13:12 | 7 |
| Didja see Geoph Jorge cry at his receivers all night. What a pre-
madonna chumpette. I would drop every pass he threw to me if I was
his measure of success.
What a bastage he seems to be.
Chip_GSH_Bach
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| 31.167 | Bolts whup Donks, 13-10 | SWLAVC::PUGH | | Mon Dec 06 1993 18:34 | 3 |
| Exciting finish, boring first half. The Murph was rockin' at the end.
Doug
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| 31.168 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Dec 07 1993 09:28 | 1 |
| I see the Broncos are showing their stuff on the road again.
|
| 31.169 | Sounds like you had fun Doug... | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Babe Hockey | Thu Dec 09 1993 22:16 | 15 |
| The Donks are 3-3 on the road. Better than normal. Their 3 losses
were by margins of 3, 3 & 8. Better than the usual 20-30 points.
Yep, those mighty bolts whupped the mighty donks into cream.. Its
called great defense by both teams, with the obvious edge going to Jr
and the boys.
The Donks went into what looked like the "prevent you from winning"
defense on that last drive. No pressure on Stanley, and the outcome
was what I feared. Up 10-0 at half, and choke it away. Kinda like
the Minny game.
What SD's remaining schedule?
Tim
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| 31.170 | | PTOVAX::JACOB | It happened again!!!!!! | Thu Dec 09 1993 22:43 | 8 |
| >> The Donks are 3-3 on the road. Better than normal. Their 3 losses
>>were by margins of 3, 3 & 8. Better than the usual 20-30 points.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They save those, and the 40 point and above losses, for the SUper Bowl.
JaKe
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| 31.171 | Gagged Tony | MASALA::DWALLACE | The Lure 'O the trout | Fri Dec 10 1993 11:32 | 4 |
| Miller seems to be having a very quiet last 8. The last time he had a
decent game was the one before the Raiders away.
Explanations.......
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| 31.172 | Oscar Mayer Weiner! | GENRAL::WADE | Pull! | Fri Dec 10 1993 13:39 | 5 |
|
Why does Jr. celebrate tackles like he just made the greatest
tackle of all time?
Claybone
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| 31.173 | | IVOS02::PUGH_DO | | Fri Dec 10 1993 14:43 | 27 |
| Remaining Schedule, and it ain't easy:
12/12 GREEN BAY (ESPN)
12/19 at Kansas City
12/27 MIAMI (Mon Nite Football)
1/2 at Tampa Bay
Anthony Miller got hurt during the Donk game (back spasms). I thought it
was curtains when he went out. Other guys stepped up. I think he's been
battling this off an on for a while. He's playing this week. You gotta
remember that Miller is doubled all the time cuz the Bolts got nobody else at
WR that teams fear.
Junior Seau is just doing what everybody in the NFL seems to do these days;
celebrate the routine tackle. Kinda gags me. His version is supposed to be
some Samoan karate kick or something. (But Jr. did have an AWESOME game
against the Donks, just ask Elway).
Bummer of the week: OLT Harry Swayne still out with eye injury which does not
bode well with Reggie coming to town.
Doug
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| 31.174 | he gets high marks for artistic impression | GENRAL::WADE | Pull! | Fri Dec 10 1993 17:26 | 9 |
|
No doubt about it, Doug. Junior is awesome. I just got sick
of seeing him do the Miami Hurricane Waltz every time he made
a friggin' tackle.
There's a quite a few others who do it too but with not nearly
as much emotion as Junior. :*)
Claybone
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| 31.175 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Babe Hockey | Fri Dec 10 1993 18:28 | 6 |
| So Jr is emotional eh? I'd have him on my team anyday, even if it
does get old watching him dance.
Tim
ps, thanks for the schedule..
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| 31.176 | Hi | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Mon Mar 21 1994 16:55 | 11 |
| Wow....no activity in this notesfile in a LONG time.
I haven't been in here at all simply because I working so damn hard and
also have been conversing with an internet Charger mailing list. So
alot of us Charger fans from other companies around the country are
keeping each other updated with the latest info.
Anyway, thought I'd drop in and say hi.
Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
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| 31.177 | gee, I was having Charger withdrawl... | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Gotta go running - April's coming | Tue Mar 22 1994 09:35 | 0 |
| 31.178 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Long lost recipe | Tue Mar 22 1994 13:37 | 3 |
| re-1
go plug yurself in (-)
|
| 31.179 | Hangin' in the Internet | IVOSS1::PUGH_DO | | Fri Mar 25 1994 18:46 | 5 |
| Yep, I've been hangin' out in the Internet Charger conference too.
Lots of Charger fanatics in there, for sure. Maybe one day this
one will heat up too.
Doug
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| 31.180 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Tue Apr 26 1994 19:39 | 20 |
| Trading Butts for a 5th round pick is a HUGE mistake!
Think about it....if you were the coach of another team, you would
take Butts for a 5th round pick in a minute! I would too!
Butts is the Cinderella story from Fla St. The blocking back
for Sammie Smith (whose out of football I believe) who never
carried the ball. He came out and ran his heart out for the
Chargers. He won the playoff game against the Chiefs with his
50+ yard touchdown run. But the Chargers never REALLY treated
him right IMHO. They should have given the ball to him 25 times
a game and let him create havoc while scoring 3 touchdowns a
game. I believe he's the kind of back who just gets better when
he gets hit. Remember all the punishing hits he DELIVERED!
And we give this up for a 5th round pick! That stinks!
I like Natrone Means alot, but it still stinks!
Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
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| 31.181 | gobroncos | COMET::MARLAND | | Wed Jul 27 1994 13:15 | 3 |
| thanks alot for Anthony Miller, appreciate it.
Broncos fan
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| 31.182 | Wait | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Welcome to the Machine | Fri Jul 29 1994 14:25 | 6 |
| re-1
I'm a Bronco fan, but not appreciating anything until Miller proves
himself in Denver and that all that $$$ was well spent.
Tim
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| 31.183 | | PTOS02::JACOBR | She likes Andy, She likes Elvis..... | Mon Oct 10 1994 18:03 | 5 |
| Where's Glenn(Live from Charger Central) these days, the Chargers are
5-0 and eating the AFC West's lunch?????
JaKe
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| 31.184 | I'm Here! | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Mon Oct 10 1994 18:40 | 21 |
|
I'm here! I'm here!
What's so impressive about the Charger victories is that
3 of the 5 were on the road. They beat Denver in Denver,
the Raiders in LA and the Seahawks in Seattle. Beating
the Chiefs is a victory no matter where it is, at home or
away.
It sure is nice to see the Chargers plastered on the front
page, and the Sports Section front page of the USA Today.
It's also real nice to watch ESPN's SportsCenter and have
the Charger score the first one talked about!
Anyway, I'm thrilled and I'm still around. Oh, when Jack
Kemp was in town 2 months ago, I talked with him for 30 minutes
about when he was a Charger and he signed my Kemp rookie card.
He's a very nice guy. He'll make a great next President!
Live from Charger Central......Glenn
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| 31.185 | | METSNY::francus | There is no joy in Mudville | Mon Oct 10 1994 18:46 | 6 |
| > He'll make a great next President!
He's a Republican so that pretty much makes that an oxymoron :-)
The Crazy Met
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| 31.186 | TCM would be an improvement over what we have now | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Mon Oct 10 1994 19:02 | 1 |
| I said 4 years ago that he'll be the President in '96.
|
| 31.187 | | SCOONE::MCCULLOUGH | Hakuna Matata - means no worries... | Tue Oct 11 1994 10:08 | 5 |
| | What's so impressive about the Charger victories is that
| 3 of the 5 were on the road. They beat Denver in Denver,
No, the most impressive thing is that they are keeping me alive
in the KOH contest...
|
| 31.188 | | SCOONE::MCCULLOUGH | Hakuna Matata - means no worries... | Tue Oct 11 1994 10:10 | 5 |
| | Title: TCM would be an improvement over what we have now
Yea, TCM for president - I like that.
How about a TCM/HAL ticket...
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| 31.189 | be careful what you wish for :-) | METSNY::francus | There is no joy in Mudville | Tue Oct 11 1994 13:45 | 8 |
|
=Bob=
Then I could truly make this country a disaster area - I would resign and
leave Hal as pres. shudder the thought.
The Crazy Met
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| 31.190 | Means is the man, and Humpries is looking pretty good | MR1PST::CBULLS::MBROOKS | | Tue Oct 11 1994 17:02 | 10 |
| SD got a huge break when the drafted Natrone Means, I have 2 FFL teams
and only have 2 players the same, Means and Rhett. Means has scored
every week and has 2 100+ yrd games. Im not sure but 5TD's may lead
the league in scoring (Tied, I think warren, thomas both have 5td's as
well).
Natrone Means... What a POWER RUNNER, now dont you wish SD Still had
Butts and New England had MEANS :-)
mab
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| 31.191 | Means was no lucky break! | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Fri Oct 14 1994 14:36 | 9 |
|
> SD got a huge break when the drafted Natrone Means,
There was no "huge break" to it. Beathard traded the next
years 1st round pick to move up in the 2nd round and take
Means. It was a calculated move by Beathard.
Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
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| 31.192 | I wish I had SD coach as my FFL Coach :-) | MR1PST::CBULLS::MBROOKS | | Fri Oct 14 1994 16:34 | 14 |
| I have him on both my FFL teams the Kid is great.... I didnt know
they moved up to grab him, GREAT MOVE goes without sayint but I'll
say it anyways...
They did a special on Inside the NFL (I think thats the show I was
watching) about Humpries, seems like a great down to earth type guy
(Why is it most QB's seem down to earth and great DB/WR/RB seem to
be cocky ?). I hope Humpries stays healthy, someone has to dethrone
Buffalo, Miami with no Running Game wont do it, KC has the next best
shot and maybe age has finaly cought up with Joe+Marcus so it may be
left up to SD.... Of course come playoff time it will be tough for
anyone to take buffalo down in buffalo so Keep winning SD...
mab
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| 31.193 | Natrone Roolz! | HBAHBA::HAAS | been to the mountain tops | Mon Oct 17 1994 11:35 | 7 |
| Ditto, MaB. Means is a member of my FFL_C Doovers.
I was fortunate enough to watch ol' Natrone a bunch of times as he tore
up the ACC. Unlike Butts, who's had some good moments in FFL, he plays
the whole game and doesn't just mop up near the end zone.
TTom
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| 31.194 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Tue Oct 18 1994 14:54 | 5 |
|
Means is now on the cover of SI. FYI.
Live from Charger Central......Glenn
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| 31.195 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Tue Oct 18 1994 15:25 | 1 |
| too bad. Would be nice to see them go undefeated a while longer.
|
| 31.196 | nice trade | BSS::MENDEZ | | Tue Oct 18 1994 15:45 | 5 |
| Hey Glen...
I think the trade between SanFran and SanDiego last year benefited
both teams. 49ers got Bryant Young and Charger got a STUD in Means.
|
| 31.197 | | HANNAH::ASHE | and now... the end is near... | Tue Oct 18 1994 17:27 | 2 |
| He was on before the Saints game...
|
| 31.198 | Natrone MEANS Business | IVOSS1::16585::PUGH_DO | | Wed Oct 19 1994 19:19 | 14 |
| > Hey Glen...
>
> I think the trade between SanFran and SanDiego last year benefited
> both teams. 49ers got Bryant Young and Charger got a STUD in Means.
The Whiners can thank the Goats for being able to get Young with
the 7th pick of the '94 draft 1st round. The pick in the trade
with the Bolts was the 15th pick in round 1; they subsequently
traded on draft day with the Goats for the 7th pick. The Whiners
took Young, the Goats took Gandy. I think both teams would rather
have Means, don't you?
Doug
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| 31.199 | Means is good but 49ers need defense | BSS::MENDEZ | | Thu Oct 20 1994 14:00 | 4 |
| No the 49ers would not rather have Means over Bryant Young. The 49ers
draft was all about defense. Young is playing well right now as a
starter.
|
| 31.200 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Tue Nov 01 1994 17:40 | 8 |
|
means became the first running back in charger history to
have 4 100+ yard rushing days in a row. fyi.
this public service message has been brought to you by me.
live from charger central......glenn
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| 31.201 | Only 1 TD over the last 3 weeks.. | MR1PST::CBULLS::MBROOKS | | Mon Nov 07 1994 15:12 | 5 |
| Scratch that last message and change it to 5 100+ yard rushing games
in a row.... its his 6th 100yrd game this year, week 2 he rushed for
over 100yards as well.
MaB
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| 31.202 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Mon Nov 07 1994 19:01 | 5 |
|
But the Chargers lost, and their offense has been in the dumps for the
last 3 games.
Glenn
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| 31.203 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Tue Jan 03 1995 10:03 | 11 |
|
There are 4 teams that had a first round NFL bye (SF, Pitt, Dall & SD).
There's alot of Super Bowl experience and history in that group. Pitt,
SF and Dallas all have won a bunch of Super Bowls and been in alot of
them. The Chargers have never even been to a Super Bowl.
I assume that this is the year for the Chargers. We'll find out on
Sunday when they play Miami in San Diego. Go Chargers!
Live from Charger Central.......Glenn
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| 31.204 | Chargers | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Thu Jan 12 1995 09:25 | 10 |
|
I find it very interesting that the two teams in the AFC Championship
Game are the 2 AFC teams that play most like NFC teams. Both
Pittsburgh and San Diego have strong defenses and running games.
One other thing that you may not know is that San Diego is the youngest
team in the league. FYI.
Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
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| 31.205 | | DZIGN::ROBICHAUD | Free Whitey Bulger! | Mon Jan 16 1995 10:05 | 27 |
| Glenn, I hate doing this to you at this your "finest hour", but I
think you and the other Charger fans have to know...
/Don
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So what did you guys think of my Chargers? I knew they'd crush the
Steelers....Natrone Means business!!!
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| 31.206 | | CAMONE::WAY | Conspiring to make a mutiny... | Mon Jan 16 1995 10:40 | 18 |
| > Glenn, I hate doing this to you at this your "finest hour", but I
>think you and the other Charger fans have to know...
>
> /Don
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>From: AXIS::US1RMC::"[email protected]" "James Wardle" 16-JAN-1995 09:33:22.90
>To: "'smtp:[email protected]'" <axis::robichaud>
>CC:
>Subj: Hey
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>So what did you guys think of my Chargers? I knew they'd crush the
>Steelers....Natrone Means business!!!
>
>JOC
It's sad when it comes to this.... So sad.
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| 31.207 | re Wardle: | MKFSA::LONG | Close, but no cigar! | Mon Jan 16 1995 11:41 | 4 |
| a KOD in it's finest fashion!
billl
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| 31.208 | | PEAKS::WOESTEHOFF | | Tue Jan 17 1995 13:46 | 6 |
| I still love Black n Gold but congradulations are in order to Glenn
and the rest of the Lightning Bolt fans.
I'll be rootin fer the Bolts and hope they represent the AFC well.
Keith
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| 31.209 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Tue Jan 17 1995 18:22 | 8 |
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Thanks for the congrats guys. I appreciate it.
The roar that went up from my living room when Gibson hit
the 4th down pass away from Foster was deafening. It's been
a very long time for me.
Glenn
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| 31.210 | Sad Story | PTOSS1::JACOBR | When's training camp start??? | Thu Jan 26 1995 12:16 | 26 |
| Dwain Painter, the Chargers' QB coach, is a notive of Pitcairn, Pa.,
which is the town where I live. his ex-wife also came from here.
They were married for 30 years, and spent most of those years
hopscotching around the USA as Painter moved from team to team with his
coaching jobs. In 1988, the Painters got to come home when Dwain
landed a job as receivers coach for the STEELERS under Chuck Noll.
When Noll retired, Painter was not retained, but quickly found a job
with the Indy Colts. His wife, Diane, was tired of moving, and stayed
in Pittsburgh. They later divirced, but remained close.
Well, hours after the STEELERS lost to the Chargers in the AFC
Championship game, Diane Painter phoned her mother and told her, "I'm
the one who should be going to the Super Bowl, not his
girlfriend."(Painter is engaged to be married).
After that phone call, she went out to her garage, started her car, and
sat in the car until the carbon monoxide fumes had taken her life.
Painter returned to Pittsburgh for the services, and reportedly has not
been able to enjoy the time leading up to the Super Bowl. Some players
have said that Painter is visibly upset.
JaKe
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| 31.211 | Good Game, but we lost | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Touch Not the Cat, Bot the Glove | Tue Oct 10 1995 13:20 | 16 |
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What a great game. My Chargers lost and should have won, but what
I saw was 2 heavyweights standing toe to toe and slugging it out.
We made too many errors, you can't win when Coleman gives the ball up
on our 20 yard line (7 for KC), Martin coughs up the ball on their 11
yard line (should have been 7 for SD), Bush misses a ball fluttering
about the air above him for a pick on their 20 (another potential 7 for
us), not to mention the need for a premiere receiver and I won't even
talk about staying in your lanes on punt returns.
Anyway, it was a heck of a good game, back and forth, back and forth,
and ended up in OT. That was good football.
Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
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| 31.212 | | OLD1S::CADZILLA2 | Rocky Mountain Ichthyologist | Tue Oct 10 1995 13:52 | 3 |
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Yep that Connover kid sure scorched them on that punt return. Two jukes
and a quick burst and that boy was gone.
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| 31.213 | Chargers would've won | OUTSRC::HEISER | watchman on the wall | Tue Oct 10 1995 15:29 | 1
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