Title: | God made man, but Sam Colt made men equal |
Notice: | Welcome to the firearms conference! |
Moderator: | PEAKS::OAKEY IN |
Created: | Tue Mar 04 1986 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 6616 |
Total number of notes: | 49869 |
Lautenberg (who brough you the demestic violence gun ban) is at it again. This bill will outlaw concealed carry and OVERRIDE state law. Of course it requires a "need" for anyone, other than the police, to carry either concealed or exposed in public. FILE s707.is S 707 IS 105th CONGRESS 1st Session To prohibit the public carrying of a handgun, with appropriate exceptions for law enforcement officials and others. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES May 6, 1997 Mr. LAUTENBERG introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary A BILL To prohibit the public carrying of a handgun, with appropriate exceptions for law enforcement officials and others. [Italic->] Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, [<-Italic] SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Concealed Weapons Prohibition Act of 1997'. SEC. 2. FINDINGS. The Congress finds and declares that-- (1) crimes committed with handguns threaten the peace and domestic tranquility of the United States and reduce the security and general welfare of the Nation and its people; (2) crimes committed with handguns impose a substantial burden on interstate commerce and lead to a reduction in productivity and profitability for businesses around the Nation whose workers, suppliers, and customers are adversely affected by gun violence; (3) the public carrying of handguns increases the level of gun violence by enabling the rapid escalation of otherwise minor conflicts into deadly shootings; (4) the public carrying of handguns increases the likelihood that incompetent or careless handgun users will accidently injure or kill innocent bystanders; (5) the public carrying of handguns poses a danger to citizens of the United States who travel across State lines for business or other purposes; and (6) all Americans have a right to be protected from the dangers posed by the carrying of concealed handguns, regardless of their State of residence. SEC. 3. UNLAWFUL ACT. Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following: `(y)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for a person to carry a handgun on his or her person in public. `(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the following: `(A) A person authorized to carry a handgun pursuant to State law who is-- `(i) a law enforcement official; `(ii) a retired law enforcement official; `(iii) a duly authorized private security officer; `(iv) a person whose employment involves the transport of substantial amounts of cash or other valuable items; or `(v) any other person that the Attorney General determines should be allowed to carry a handgun because of compelling circumstances warranting an exception, pursuant to regulations that the Attorney General may promulgate. `(B) A person authorized to carry a handgun pursuant to a State law that grants a person an exemption to carry a handgun based on an individualized determination and a review of credible evidence that the person should be allowed to carry a handgun because of compelling circumstances warranting an exemption. A claim of concern about generalized or unspecified risks shall not be sufficient to justify an exemption. `(C) A person authorized to carry a handgun on his or her person under Federal law.'.
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6611.1 | anybody else wanna protect our RKBA from idiot Lautenberg? | BSS::PROCTOR_R | PC....Politically Corrupt | Fri May 16 1997 23:35 | 11 |
time to get out the crayon and write my senator. again. sigh. I thought the US started as an experiment in State's Rights. I'm sure tired of these bozos who "Want to Protect My Sorry Butt", 'cos I'm too stupid to do it myself. gawd..... mumble mumble mumble {sound of crayon hard at work...} | |||||
6611.2 | BIGHOG::PERCIVAL | I'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-RO | Mon May 19 1997 11:13 | 14 | |
<<< Note 6611.1 by BSS::PROCTOR_R "PC....Politically Corrupt" >>> > I thought the US started as an experiment in State's Rights. True enough. But I wouldn't use that argument. The inaccuracies (AKA lies) in the justification section (ie. "concealed carry increases violence" when we all know it DECREASES violence) should be enough. If you go the State's Rights route, the to be consistent you also have to get the crayons out to protest passage of the National CCW bill. Jim | |||||
6611.3 | BSS::PROCTOR_R | PC....Politically Corrupt | Mon May 19 1997 16:13 | 6 | |
> If you go the State's Rights route, the to be consistent you also > have to get the crayons out to protest passage of the National CCW > bill. true enough. it's difficult to know where to draw the line betwixt the 'rights of states' and what makes sense for the feds... | |||||
6611.4 | An Enemy of the Public | EPS::BIONDI | Guns, The Teeth of Liberty | Thu May 22 1997 10:53 | 8 |
What a MORON! Who's paying him under the table? Who does he really work for? HOW EXACTLY IS HE GOING TO HELP ME AND MY FAMILY WHEN WE GET IN A JAM?! I think stupid people and liars should keep their mouths shut! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -X | |||||
6611.5 | PEAKS::OAKEY | Thu May 22 1997 13:00 | 9 | ||
Re: <<< Note 6611.4 by EPS::BIONDI "Guns, The Teeth of Liberty" >>> >> HOW >> EXACTLY IS HE GOING TO HELP ME AND MY FAMILY WHEN WE GET IN A JAM?! You're not exercising your anti-think: If this laws passes, all the criminals will obey it so you'll never get into a jam... Roak | |||||
6611.6 | BSS::PROCTOR_R | PC....Politically Corrupt | Thu May 22 1997 13:07 | 9 | |
> <<< Note 6611.4 by EPS::BIONDI "Guns, The Teeth of Liberty" >>> > What a MORON! I certainly hope that you are after the subject of the moronic bill sponsor (note .0), and not the author of note .3... Otherwise my feelings will be hurt! *8) | |||||
6611.7 | Good Guys Excempt is my law! | EPS::BIONDI | Guns, The Teeth of Liberty | Thu May 22 1997 16:17 | 8 |
:') Moronic bill sponsor is my motivation for the moderately controlled outburst. All this business makes me tired. :') - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -X | |||||
6611.8 | Good site to read | AUSS::HAGARTY | Thu May 22 1997 21:55 | 17 | |
Ahhh Gi'day... Cannot find the note to put this in, but if you want a good site to visit on the 2nd amendment, look at nemo.as.arizona.edu/~swest/howard.html. This discusses the 2nd amendment from the legal point of view (it isn't boring). The footnotes are especially interesting. Seems like in the last 15 years, there have been 50 articles in Law journals on the 2nd. 42 of these have been in favour of the "individual right" option. Of the other 8, only one was written by a law professor. Three were written by paid members of anti-freedom organisations. Try this quote... "As anyone who has ever studied this contentious issue knows all too well, it is easy to simply assert that the Second Amendment supports only a states' right to keep and bear arms, but it is much more difficult to prove this point; with the appearance of Professor Malcolm's book, this task can well be described as herculean." |