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| 7076.1 | Windows NT will do it | RDVAX::LEVY | Run Like an Antelope | Mon Feb 10 1997 09:18 | 25 |
| I can't comment on all of your information, but there is one major
misunderstanding here.
> 2) Print services for PC users are being transferred from VMS/Pathworks
> systems to Windows NT office servers. This means only printers
> which have their own IP addresses (LPS) can be served. Not LAT queues
> (in the main office) nor telnet queues (field offices).
>
> As I understand it, we can get around problem 1 by having two printers,
> one ansi and one PS in each office. And problem 2 can be solved by
> keeping at least one VMS Pathworks system as server to LAT or telnet
> queues.
You're stuck in a VMS mentality, it seems. The DEClaser 3500, for
instance, does a very good job of operating in a Windows NT environment
with TCP/IP. Telnet not needed. The printer can be assigned an IP
address and the NT queue can communicate with it that way.
The only reason to keep VMS/PATHWORKS around is if you have a need to
run legacy VMS apps and want the same system to operate as your PC
file/print server. If this need does not exist, Windows NT does a fine
job of ANSI/PS printing to these printers.
dave
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| 7076.2 | Stuck whether I like it or not...;-) | SWETSC::WESTERBACK | Panta rei | Mon Feb 10 1997 16:13 | 7 |
| Yes, I'm indeed stuck in VMS thinking. That's necessary because we
still need to print from many VMS applications. Maybe that wasn't
emphasized in my base note, but of course it's essential that our
solution supports both VMS and PC printing. Can VMS (DCPS) use the 3500
for ANSI/PS printing? Does the same go for LN17ps?
Hans
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| 7076.3 | I like being stuck in OpenVMS thinking! | FUNYET::ANDERSON | Where's the nearest White Castle? | Mon Feb 10 1997 17:39 | 12 |
| OpenVMS and DCPS can indeed use the DEClaser 3500 and LN17ps for ANSI and
PostScript printing. DCPS will translate text or ANSI documents to PostScript
first.
Note that DCPS uses LAT or AppleTalk to these printers today. DCPS V1.4,
currently in field test, will be able to use TCP/IP to the LN17ps and other
printers that have bidirectional TCP/IP stacks on them.
You can also use the TCP/IP Services (UCX) LPR or Telnet queues to these
printers today, but you will not be using DCPS and its features.
Paul
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| 7076.4 | It works...we do it when we must | RDVAX::LEVY | Run Like an Antelope | Tue Feb 11 1997 07:53 | 5 |
| ...and since the printer can talk LAT without a terminal server, as can
VMS, you are in good shape!
dave
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| 7076.5 | DEClaser 3500 and 5100 NICs do NOT support bi-di TCP/IP | HANNAH::SCHULLMAN | Dan Schullman | Tue Feb 11 1997 10:50 | 10 |
| RE: .3
> Note that DCPS uses LAT or AppleTalk to these printers today. DCPS V1.4,
> currently in field test, will be able to use TCP/IP to the LN17ps and other
> printers that have bidirectional TCP/IP stacks on them.
NOTE that the DEClaser 3500 NIC does *NOT* support bi-di TCP/IP (even though
it DOES support bi-di LAT).
--Dan S.
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| 7076.6 | | SWETSC::WESTERBACK | Panta rei | Tue Feb 11 1997 11:39 | 24 |
| Thanks for your replies so far!
Let's see if I have understood correctly:
For WNT:
Both 3500 and LN17ps can be used by NT, as they have their own
TCP/IP address.
For VMS:
Both 3500 and LN17ps can use LAT and DCPS to print ANSI/PS.
Where there is no LAT, only TCP/IP, both printers can use
LPD or telnetsym and print PS. When DCPS 1.4 is released it
will be possible to use it for LN17ps only to print ANSI/PS.
3500 and TCP/IP only: I see there's a 3500A. Can it receive
both ANSI or PS and print it OK? Which symbiont is used?
Rgds,
Hans
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| 7076.7 | Can LAT get from system to printer? | SHRMSG::HOWARD | Ben | Fri Feb 21 1997 14:07 | 20 |
| .6 is correct as I understand it. However, "where there is no LAT",
might be interpreted differently by different people. In our building,
there supposedly is no LAT in most of it. However, all the LAT is done
by the printers and the VMS systems, so there is no problem. The key
would be whether LAT is going to get through the gateways between the
field offices and the main office. I think it is primary the
DECservers that the LAT haters want to get rid of, since they are
difficult to manage.
(I'm not sure what a 3500A is.) For a while, I used UCX LPD to print to
the 3500's. It worked ok, but I couldn't get header pages to work with
DQS, and of course no DCPS features like LANDSCAPE, 2-up, or duplex (I
don't think 3500's do duplex anyway). If these features are in the
PostScript of the document, then they work ok.
If you are going to buy printers, then the LN17 seems a better choice
than the 3500 for several reasons: DCPS over IP, duplex (with option),
ability to login to the printer, probably faster.
Ben
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