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Conference hips::babylon5

Title:Boom Today
Notice:Have the Shadows returned to Z'ha'dum ?
Moderator:HIPS::WATSON
Created:Thu Oct 27 1994
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:182
Total number of notes:2948

122.0. "#405 The Long Night" by HIPS::WATSON (I'll always be here) Thu May 30 1996 18:38

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122.1HIPS::WATSONNot the one.Mon Aug 19 1996 14:0228
122.2RIOT01::SUMMERFIELDSic Transit Gloria MundiMon Aug 19 1996 14:113
122.3another good one...QUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyMon Feb 03 1997 16:5688
Oh my, oh my,  and as long time supplier of sattelite feed tapes, Gary Hughes
said, we haven't even got to the big battle yet...  

Thar be








spoils







below








real big bad ones too...




So don't go sneaking



if'n you don't 




want to know...






So, was anybody really surprised when Vir did it?  If you've been reading
anything in here or certainly from the Lurker's Guide, it wouldn't have
been a total surprise, but even so, it was very well done.  Obviously Vir
wasn't quite prepared for it himself.  The drunken aftermath was in perfect
keeping with his character.  He had the strength and conviction to actually
do it, and he did do it, make no mistake.  From the way it was shown
you may be tempted to think that Vir managed it all accidently, but 
don't be fooled by that, he knew at that point he was the only one
who could do it, and he did it exactly as it needed to be done.  But know
he's not sure he can live with himself.  

He'll get over it.

I loved the scene when Vir originally bought the murder weapon to Londo,
and they're wondering just how quickly it will work.  Maybe he'll have
enough time to yell "Londo killed me!"  Or maybe "Kill Londo!"
But in the end, Cartagia only had words about himself.

I'm not too sure I'm that thrilled with the cucifixion symbolism of 
G'Kar, though we have seen him in that get up before.  It seems to me
that the damn thing could have easily been lifted over his head anyway,
even with all the chains on, and made a nice weapon to boot, but it's
only after the chains are broken "I had my personal guard put on new
chains, the old ones looked weak" that he uses it that way.  You'd 
think they'd also have a bit more fire power available for the quards,
especially with all the unfettered Narn's about, but I guess it would
curtail the story somewhat if you had "G'Kar tries to break chain's.
Well armed Centauri guards gun him down, and other Narn's who act
up."

Things are certainly picking up for next week.  The Vorlon's, the AOL, and
a bunch of first one's, I'm sure, with Lorien and Ivanova leading the 
charge.  The sacrifice of the White Star with Ericcson planting the info
to pull the shadow's into it.  It has been said that 406 will be the biggest
CGI show to date.  I'm sure Joe will find a way to twist the human element
in the story too.  Should be cool.

PeterT  
122.4more...UNIFIX::DIBBLERECYCLE - do it now, or pay later!Mon Feb 03 1997 21:4540
    As
    
    	we
    
    		say
    
    			"the
    
    				President
    
    
    						Gets
    
    
    							Assininated"
    
    
    	or
    
    			SPOILERS!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	yah, Vir did it. I suspect that more could have been spent on him.
    He's been put in his own fire, and will now be the stronger, I think.
    
    	Loved the "Londo will be PM" - "Erk! ME?" Look on his face. :^)
    
    	I can't wait to find out what happened to Mr. Garibaldi....
    
    	I also wonder if Andreas now wears 1 red contact or 2? That's got
    to mess with his mind/vision between takes. Although from what I've read
    he *stays* in character when in makeup, so perhaps he leaves the
    "eyepatch" on.
    
    	Can't wait till next week.
    Ben
122.5Good showEVMS::SCHUETZVMS Clusters Memory Channel 381-6075Tue Feb 04 1997 18:347
    I thought the discussion about what Cartagia might say was very funny.
    And well done.
    
    As for the eye-patch - it could be translucent so that the actor
    could see a bit through it, but the camera and audience would pick
    that up.
    
122.6TOHOPE::WSA038::SATTERFIELDClose enough for jazz.Tue Feb 04 1997 19:2858
It's great to have new episodes again, I really missed them. Now that JMS is
withholding all non-arc episodes until he gets word on renewal we really can't
afford to miss an episode or risk non-comprehension.

Londo must be getting dizzy with these attitude swings over the past four years.
:^)




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While it certainly wasn't telegraphed it became obvious as soon as Londo
dropped the syringe that Vir would do the deed. Somehow it seems more appropiate
coming from him as he's more a man of the people than Londo.



Randy
122.7KERNEL::HOGGANDWed Feb 19 1997 19:1115
    WOW!
    
    
     Spoliers......
    
    
    
    RE: White Star XIV
    
    Not an easy task for any commander. I thought the "You're not married?"
    line was a "gritty"; sort of hammering home the depth of the situation.
    
    Dave.
    
    
122.8Would he get off if the answer was yes?EVMS::SCHUETZVMS Clusters Memory Channel 381-6075Wed Feb 26 1997 18:502
    Ok, the commander wasn't married.
    What about the rest of the crew?  Or we don't care about Minbaris?
122.9BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapThu Feb 27 1997 14:3627
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Nope.  The whole crew were crabstar garnish, regardless of the captain's
reply.  The sole purpose for the question was to telegraph this factoid to
anyone in the audience who had somehow managed to get this far without
catching on.

Sometimes, TeeVee is just a little too blatant for me.