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Conference noted::windows95

Title:	Microsoft Windows 95 ("Chicago")
Notice:	Please read topics 1 to 22 before writing anything
Moderator:	EEMELI::BACKSTROM

Created:	Sun Nov 13 1994
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2958
Total number of notes:	19968

2945.0. "Problem Accessing shared resources" by CHR27::YEUNG (im2bz2p,ru?) Mon Jun 02 1997 01:55

I have a DEC supplied Jensen (DECps AXP 150) and a HiNote at home.
They are networked to each other via NETBEUI on Ethernet.
The Jensen runs WNT V4.0 and the HiNote runs W95.
The Jensen serves large disks and the CDROM to the HiNote.

I recently configured the HiNote so that I can log into the DIGITAL1
domain and use Exchange via dialup modem and TCP/IP.  But now, I cannot
access the shared devices on the Jensen any more.

Both the HiNote and the Jensen are still in the DIGITALWSLAO1 workgroup.
All the shared resources on the Jensen grants Full Control to Everyone.
When I double click on the Neworking Neighborhood on the HiNote, the
Jensen ICON shows up, but when I double click on the Jensen ICON,
I get a dialog box saying "You must supply a password to make this
connectionn" for resource \\JENSEN\IPC$.  When I try to map to one
of Jensen's shared devices (e.g., CDROM), I also get "You must
supply a password to make this connectionn" for resource \\JENSEN\CDROM.

I've never set a password for any of Jensen's shared resources,
so how come I have to enter a password?  How do I fix this problem?

On the Jensen, if I double click on the Network Neighborhood ICON,
the HiNote does NOT show up.

Please teach this old VMS dog some new tricks.
Thanks.

Tim

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2945.1		TARKIN::LIN	Bill Lin	`Mon Jun 02 1997 10:08`	9
	re: CHR27::YEUNG You have not stated whether you have installed the TCP/IP protocol on your Jensen. Perhaps the "\\JENSEN" that asks you for a password is one that is running TCP/IP and is properly registered under WINS? Digital NT RAS dialin points only allow TCP/IP. /Bill
2945.2	Well, here's a way .. maybe	PTOSS1::MATSCHERZ		`Mon Jun 02 1997 11:09`	9
	I have this problem too. Only mine is with my Hinote (win95) and my Pentium server (win95) at home too. I didn't have any problems up until I configured my dialup to the Digital domain. I get around it by just dialing into the domain at Digital with the Pentium server and then connecting to the server with the Ultra. Works that way and doesn't really cause any other problems. L8tr.. Steve m..
2945.3	mine works - 2 possibilities	PARZVL::ogodhcp-124-40-168.ogo.dec.com::kennedy	nuncam non paratus	`Mon Jun 02 1997 14:32`	15
	I don't have this problem. Perhaps because I've installed the AltaVista tunnel on my laptop & I have my Primary Network Logon set to Client for Microsoft Networks (in Network Properties). When I start up the laptop, I always get prompted to login to the Digital1 domain. Then, when at home, I get a message that no domain server was available to service my request. However, my username/domain/password appear to be cached and used when needed. The other reason may be that the machine on the LAN at home is not in a Digital workgroup domain, but in a local workgroup. If your machine is a member of DIGITALWSlocN, doesn't it have to get to a domain controller to authenticate users/passwords?
2945.4	Still broken	CHR27::YEUNG	im2bz2p,ru?	`Tue Jun 03 1997 01:47`	47
	re: .1 (TARKIN::LIN) > You have not stated whether you have installed the TCP/IP protocol on > your Jensen. Perhaps the "\\JENSEN" that asks you for a password is > one that is running TCP/IP and is properly registered under WINS? TCP/IP is properly installed because I use PPP to dialup to DIGITAL without any problems. Even if I remove the modem card, reboot the system, and only attempt to connect to the jensen over NETBEUI/Ethernet, I get the password prompt. re: .2 (PTOSS1::MATSCHERZ) > I have this problem too. Only mine is with my Hinote (win95) and my > Pentium server (win95) at home too. I didn't have any problems up > until I configured my dialup to the Digital domain. I get around it by > just dialing into the domain at Digital with the Pentium server and > then connecting to the server with the Ultra. Works that way and > doesn't really cause any other problems. I don't have a modem for the jensen :( Besides, I don't seem to be able to undo what's been done to my laptop. The jensen just doesn't want to talk to the laptop anymore without a password. And I don't know what the password should be since I never set one on the Jensen. re .3: >When I start up the laptop, I always get prompted to login to >the Digital1 domain. Then, when at home, I get a message that >no domain server was available to service my request. However, >my username/domain/password appear to be cached and used when >needed. My laptop behaves the same way. >The other reason may be that the machine on the LAN at home is >not in a Digital workgroup domain, but in a local workgroup. >If your machine is a member of DIGITALWSlocN, doesn't it have >to get to a domain controller to authenticate users/passwords? I've tried changing both the jensen and the laptop to be in Workgroup WORKGROUP. But the password problem still exists even though I'm not even connected to Digital. Thanks Tim
2945.5	Well, hm...	PTOSS1::MATSCHERZ		`Wed Jun 04 1997 12:06`	13
	I think mine works because the Digital1 domain allows the systems to be on the same workgroup. Otherwise it is disallowing it due to some kind of security thing. I've found that I'm always allowed to the laptop from the Pentium 100 system and when I do a "browse" on the network from the laptop i can see the other systems only when I've connected to the Digital1 domain. Interesting huh? Also a pain at the same time. Hey who knows maybe Microsoft will just discontinue Windows95 before they fix it ! Kind of like what we do around here. (disclaimer here.. don't flame me .. I've had a few bad products and I'm taking some steam off here ... ) L89tr... Stevem...