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| 2856.1 | mistake - http://www-notes.lkg.dec.com/noted/windows95 | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Tue Mar 18 1997 10:17 | 10 |
| re: WMOIS::NILSEN
Certainly, Bob. There's netnotes at least. See ISVHUB::NETNOTES I
think. Then there are www notes tools. I haven't tried the latter
other than to browse some conferences through URLs such as the
following: http://www-notes.lkg.dec.com/noted/windows-95
There are probably other alternatives I don't know about...
/Bill
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| 2856.2 | Teamlinks Conferencing | COPS01::cop-dhcp-2-215.cop.dec.com::skinnerj | | Tue Mar 18 1997 10:35 | 3 |
| I use Teamlinks Conferencing to read Notes (and write replies).
Jay
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| 2856.3 | Go Stand-Alone on a VAx | NETCAD::GENOVA | | Tue Mar 18 1997 11:06 | 11 |
|
rep .0
Why don't you get a stand-alone vax, and then it doesn't matter what
your short sighted site (sic) does with it's vaxes.
I've been stand-alone for years and if/when the server goes away,
oh well, it won't matter to my vax.
/art (who still can't believe that it's our policy to "dump" VMS)
for nt, haha!
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| 2856.4 | Time for Plan B? | WRKSYS::TATOSIAN | The Compleat Tangler | Tue Mar 18 1997 16:30 | 11 |
| http://www-notes.lkg.dec.com/noted/windows-95 responds with
"DECnotes Conference windows-95 is currently not accessible"
"Due to either network difficulties or for other reasons, the DECnotes
conference you have selected is not currently accessible. Please try
again later."
Right...
Life Beyond VAXen. It ain't gonna be pretty...
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| 2856.5 | OK....what about RNU | SNOFS1::RASMUSSEN | | Tue Mar 18 1997 17:48 | 5 |
| I couldn't live without my RNU (offspring of AVN)! So is there an alternative
(to RNU) that is Web or Exchange aware? (While I don't have an OpenVMS VAX
issue at present I would like to have more options).
Wayne
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| 2856.6 | Don't blame the medium... | SMURF::PBECK | Paul Beck | Tue Mar 18 1997 18:11 | 12 |
| > <<< Note 2856.4 by WRKSYS::TATOSIAN "The Compleat Tangler" >>>
> -< Time for Plan B? >-
>
> http://www-notes.lkg.dec.com/noted/windows-95 responds with
>
> "DECnotes Conference windows-95 is currently not accessible"
That's because it's
http://www-notes.lkg.dec.com/noted/windows95
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| 2856.7 | | NETRIX::"[email protected]" | Paul Beck | Tue Mar 18 1997 18:17 | 5 |
| That said, I've never been impressed by the web interface.
It's inevitable when using the notes AltaVista searcher at
http://altavista.notes.lkg.dec.com:8000/ but for any real noting
you (or at least I) need something a whole lot better.
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]
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| 2856.8 | | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Tue Mar 18 1997 18:32 | 1 |
| sorry for the mistake in .1
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| 2856.9 | How about NetNotes | NETRIX::"[email protected]" | Nilsen | Tue Mar 18 1997 19:30 | 8 |
| I found my way on the notes files . I would like to use my notebook.
I also found a file called NetNotes on www-ccs.wro.dec.com/NT/KITs/
but the license key is out of date. Is there a updated key or file?
The info said this file will use your old notesbook file from VMS.
Bob
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]
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| 2856.10 | notebook use not so useful | ODIXIE::SIMPSONT | PC = world's biggest con job! | Tue Mar 18 1997 19:34 | 5 |
| The catch is that you have to translate the DECnet addresses to IP
addresses, providing one exists...
rgds,
Tom
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| 2856.11 | Don't forget the server! | RINGSS::WALES | David from Down-Under | Tue Mar 18 1997 20:41 | 17 |
| G'Day,
Don't worry too much. When all the VAXes are gone you wont only lose
your client access to notes but there wont be any machines left to host the
conference either so you wont be missing out on anything. There has been talk
about a Windows NT based server but I am yet to see any use of it within DEC.
Even if the servers remain the biggest problem I have with PC clients is
that they all tend to keep your notebook file locally so if you use a number of
different machines you have to keep moving the latest version of the file to the
client that you want to use. I have this same problem with USENET news and its
newsrc file.
Progress - bah humbug! It will be long time before I switch off the
VAXstation on my desk.
David.
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| 2856.12 | | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Wed Mar 19 1997 06:46 | 10 |
| re: .11 by RINGSS::WALES
re: Don't forget the server!
But, David, there is a server component to Netnotes. I've used
it. It works fine! One can even migrate an existing VMS-based
NOTES conference to an NT Netnotes one. I did it a long time ago
but as the need wasn't there, I dropped further exploration at
that time. May be time to revisit...
/Bill
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| 2856.13 | NetNotes license key | MKOTS3::TINIUS | It's always something. | Wed Mar 19 1997 08:04 | 31 |
| Re .9 and .10:
The files
ftp://ftp-ccs.XXX.dec.com/Kits/NetNotes/Version1.0.9/X86/Disk1/Readme.txt
ftp://ftp-ccs.XXX.dec.com/Kits/NetNotes/Version1.0.9\386_cli.zip in Readme.txt
are for Version 1.0.8 and list an expired license key,
0622-2800-3027-2008-8500-2015-3205. (XXX is one of ako, cxo, reo or zko).
The Version 1.0.9 key is listed correctly on the kit's Web page at
http://www-ccs.wro.dec.com/NT/Kits/NetNotes/
and is 0622-2800-3026-2003-8590-2015-2220.
There is also a Word document there called "NetNotes Step-by-step.Doc"
which I wrote which will guide you through
� setting the protection on your existing DEC Notes notebook in your VMS
account,
� installing the NetNotes Client program on your PC,
� configuring the NetNotes Client program and
� copying your DEC Notes notebook to your PC.
NetNotes running on your PC can use a "route through" node, typically an
OpenVMS system, which handles both TCP/IP and DECnet. By using your site
PATHWORKS or printer server as a "route-through" node, you can continue
to refer to specific DEC Notes conferences using their traditional
DECnet addresses, for example, HUMANE::DIGITAL.
Regards,
-stephen
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| 2856.14 | ...don't tell VMS good-bye just yet.... | FIEVEL::FILGATE | Bruce Filgate SHR3-2/W4 237-6452 | Wed Mar 19 1997 08:07 | 15 |
|
Digital has a very large number of customers which buy PCs and run
the PC operating systems. But these customers keep telling us that
they have only two real choices for their `bet the business' machines,
MVS on IBM mainframes, and VMS on DEC mainframes.
It would seem that as long as machines need to be highly available,
both MVS and VMS will remain with us.
...and since I do not see DEC selling MVS and its platforms, I'll bet
that we keep selling VMS, which means we keep running VMS in house.
Does MVS have a notes system?
Bruce
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| 2856.15 | | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Wed Mar 19 1997 08:26 | 3 |
| FWIW, I don't believe OpenVMS will be going away anytime soon either...
/Bill
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| 2856.16 | Alpha | CADSYS::GROSS | The bug stops here | Wed Mar 19 1997 09:05 | 6 |
| Re: several previous
When all the VAXen are gone there will still be Alpha systems
running OpenVMS and hosting Notes conferences.
Dave
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| 2856.17 | Netnotes vs Teamlinks ? | STOWOA::tavo.ogo.dec.com::Diaz | Octavio | Wed Mar 19 1997 14:40 | 7 |
| This may be more apprpriate for a Teamlinks conference, but...
I have downloaded the netnotes program and it looks "exactly" like Teamlinks
Conferencing, so my question is: Is this correct? If yes, why are we paying for
some 3rd party licensing, when Teamlinks is available?
/OLD
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| 2856.18 | | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Wed Mar 19 1997 15:01 | 13 |
| re: .17 by STOWOA::tavo.ogo.dec.com::Diaz
>> why are we paying for some 3rd party licensing, when Teamlinks is
>> available?
As I understand it, Netnotes was originally developed either within
DIGITAL or because of very close ties with DIGITAL. I don't believe
DIGITAL pays for the perpetual client license that we have. I believe
Teamlinks is 16-bit code whereas Netnotes is 32-bit. I've never used
Teamlinks so I do not know how much similarity there is between the
two.
/Bill
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| 2856.19 | NOTED broken? | ACISS2::FULTON | Other Vehicle = Federation Starship | Tue Apr 15 1997 23:01 | 8 |
| Well, I have been *trying* to use netnotes for a couple of weeks now
and all works fine except for notesfiles that are hosted by node NOTED
(WIN95 and IBMPC). The only time I have any luck in actually being
able to read notesfiles on NOTED is on the weekends or in the wee hours
of the morning. Is there a correctable reason for this or should I
plan on foregoing the pleasures of these notesfiles on a timely basis?
Ken
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| 2856.20 | | PYRO::RON | Ron S. van Zuylen | Wed Apr 16 1997 02:36 | 7 |
| You didn't say if you were using DECnet or TCP/IP -- and if you were
routing through an existing "pass-thru" server, like one of the CCS Site
Servers (alfs03.alf.dec.com, for example), for access to NOTED over
DECnet. I just accessed NOTED::IBMPC-95 from Conferencing/NetNotes
through wros01.wro.dec.com over my TCP/IP RAS connection.
--Ron
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| 2856.21 | TCP/IP | OGOPW1::16.72.96.30::fulton | Other Vehicle=Federation Starship | Wed Apr 16 1997 12:24 | 11 |
| RE:-.1
I am using TCP/IP. I connect to my ISP and use the tunnel software to
connect through the firewall to Digital. I have tried several nodes as my
"Route through node" and still experience the problem with NOTED. Other
nodes seem to work fine. Actually, I am very surprised, because I am
writing this using netnotes! Generally at this time of day on a weekday, I
am unable to access any notesfiles on NOTED.
Ken
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| 2856.22 | How about direct ? | nova05.vbo.dec.com::BERGER | | Thu Apr 17 1997 06:30 | 5 |
| Have you tried connecting directly to noted.lkg.dec.com with no
route-through node ? I've been using NetNotes that way for at least a
year with no major problem with noted.
Vincent
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