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2151.1 | | BULEAN::BANKS | | Tue Jun 11 1996 10:56 | 36 |
2151.2 | Too much trouble for too little | BULEAN::BANKS | | Tue Jun 11 1996 12:06 | 29 |
2151.3 | NTFS would have been the ticket... | JULIET::yosmte::HARRIS_MA | Sales Executive II | Wed Jun 12 1996 15:30 | 7 |
2151.4 | | AXEL::FOLEY | Rebel Without a [email protected] | Wed Jun 12 1996 17:11 | 10 |
2151.5 | No more bootable floppy access | TUXEDO::GOLDFARB | Stan Goldfarb, LKG, dracophile | Thu Jun 13 1996 10:07 | 11 |
2151.6 | DOS 7.5 would support FAT32 | IOSG::TALLETT | www-iosg.reo.dec.com/Tallett.html | Fri Jun 14 1996 04:42 | 10 |
2151.7 | | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Fri Jun 14 1996 09:51 | 11 |
2151.8 | | BULEAN::BANKS | | Fri Jun 14 1996 11:11 | 13 |
2151.9 | How about now? | MR1PST::sbo209.mro.dec.com::meyer | Testing...Testing...testing | Tue Dec 03 1996 09:38 | 11 |
2151.10 | | METSYS::gales.reo.dec.com::GOODWIN | The DEC/EDI GUI guru | Wed Dec 04 1996 11:09 | 3 |
2151.11 | any experiences with FAT32 yet? | DEMON::NOWARE::WITTMAN | Paul Wittman | Fri Jan 10 1997 16:48 | 11 |
2151.12 | | SKYLAB::FISHER | Gravity: Not just a good idea. It's the law! | Fri Jan 10 1997 18:25 | 4 |
2151.13 | | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Ora, the Old Rural Amateur | Thu Jan 23 1997 10:53 | 8 |
2151.14 | Can you "force" a FAT32 structure? | ACISS2::BEJCEK | | Fri Feb 07 1997 21:11 | 6 |
| Is there any way to "force" a FAT32 structure on a disk of 512MB or
smaller? .0 says on 512MB or larger, you get a choice. I want to put
a FAT32 on a non-LBA disk of 512MB.
Thanks, Bob
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2151.15 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Sat Feb 08 1997 09:25 | 4 |
| Partition Magic 3.0? At least the manual doesn't say you can't - I
can't try this out myself yet.
Steve
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2151.16 | | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Ora, the Old Rural Amateur | Sat Feb 08 1997 10:02 | 5 |
| re .14: I don't think so, but I haven't tried.
But why would you want to use FAT32 in that case? You won't get smaller
clusters anyway.
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2151.17 | So DOS 6 ignores W95's partition | ACISS2::BEJCEK | | Sat Feb 08 1997 10:53 | 24 |
| re .16 Why you ask? To make drive 1 (W95) invisible to DOS.
My son currently has about 1.5 G divided into 6 partitions and wants
W95. I'm a bit squirmish about putting both on the same (logical)
drive. What I did with my daughter's Pentium, which came with a 850MB
disk and was initialized with W95 FDISK. I added a second drive and
initialized with DOS 6.22 FDISK. What that did was allow a normal boot
to W95 from the first disk and allowed access to DOS files on second
disk. However, if the boot was from a DOS 6 floppy, it would not
recognize the first (W95) disk and made the second disk show up as
drive C: which meant I didn't have to reassign everything to another
drive letter.
If I try the same with my son's 486, I get W95 on C: and DOS on D:.
Then I have to move the stuff from the old D: to somewhere else. I am
just trying to make it so DOS will not recognize the first disk as one
it can read. On the pentium set up the way I want, FDISK from DOS says
the first disk has "unknown operating system" on it and ignores it when
assigning drive letters.
I may have to break down and put both on first disk in C: but don't
want to. I was hoping for a W95 FDISK switch to control the FAT.
Thanks for the replies, Bob
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2151.18 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Sat Feb 08 1997 14:47 | 6 |
| I think you can do this sort of thing with Partition Magic. The manual
talks of creating "hidden partitions" for selecting multiple operating
systems. It comes with "Boot Commander" to let you select an OS at
boot time.
Steve
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2151.19 | | STOWOA::READ | Bob Read @OGO, DTN 276-9715 | Mon Feb 10 1997 18:25 | 10 |
| I tried to use Partition Magic to change my FAT16 1.2 gig volume to
FAT32. PM did all the stuff, chugged away for a while, then said that
I had to reboot the system. I did so and I found myself with so much
mush for a disk. I couldn't even FDISK the drive! It was a mess. It
took me a while, but I managed to get back the drive. And then I used
the Windows 95b FDISK to create the disk as a FAT32 volume and it's
worked very well since then.
I wouldn't trust Partition Magic after that tragic episode. (Yes I had
a backup, but I lost about a day sorting out the mess that PM left.)
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2151.20 | | PYRO::RON | Ron S. van Zuylen | Mon Feb 10 1997 19:30 | 5 |
| Partition Magic can be, well, difficult. I'd never use it without a
full backup on a system I care about. Be sure to download the very
latest patches from their Web Site to increase the odds of success.
--Ron
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2151.21 | I don't think Partition Magic is sufficient to do a FAT 16 -> 32 on the system disk | FIEVEL::FILGATE | Bruce Filgate SHR3-2/W4 237-6452 | Tue Feb 11 1997 07:32 | 10 |
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While Partition Magic advertises to change FAT16 to FAT32, it would not
be sufficient to do this by itself on a system disk. The command.com,
IO.sys, and probably msdos.sys would have to be replaced by the 950B
Windows kit if you ever want other than `mush'...and God help you if
you were to run the 950a defrag software!
Bruce
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2151.22 | The SYSTEM itself must already support FAT32... | JULIET::HARRIS_MA | Networks Sales Exec | Tue Feb 11 1997 11:34 | 10 |
| RE: .21
.21 is right on. Changing the drive to FAT32 probably worked, but you
also need to have all the COMMAND.COM, IOSYS, etc kernel components
AND all of the updated utilities, (FDIST, FORMAT, DEFRAG, etc).
So, Partition Magic does what you asked, it just expects to be doing
this on a system that SUPPORTS FAT32 already.
Mark
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2151.23 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Tue Feb 11 1997 12:20 | 4 |
| Partition Magic won't create a FAT32 partition unless it determines that you're
running Windows 95 OSR2, or unless you explicitly override its check.
Steve
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2151.24 | | WOOK::ogodhcp-124-96-50.ogo.dec.com::read | Bob Read @OGO, DTN 276-9715 | Tue Feb 11 1997 17:20 | 3 |
| Yes, I was doing this on Windows 95b with FAT32 support. I was also
not doing this on the system disk. It was a data disk that I had
turn to mush before my very eyes!
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2151.25 | more... | FIEVEL::FILGATE | Bruce Filgate SHR3-2/W4 237-6452 | Wed Feb 12 1997 07:52 | 25 |
| Right. The system disk's system files do the interpretation for the
other disks in the system. For instance, if one has a hard disk that
is FAT32 and a system floppy that is FAT16; Booting the floppy will have
the hard drive look like `mush'. Formatting a floppy to FAT32 and placing
a FAT32 system on it will allow it to boot and `see' the hard FAT32 drive.
(tried and verified).
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A second recipe for mush (kitchen tested last night)
Erase a hard drive, install/format/setup a 950B kit (FAT32 support but
since the hard drive is a notebook and has a suspend partition on it, the
real format is FAT16). Verify that all the FAT32 utilities are in place,
verify that command,IO,msdos system files are present in the windows
sub-directory. Verify system functionality. Load PartitionMagic 3.0 and
translate the drive to Fat32. Try to reboot, fresh hot MUSH.
Suspected culprit: the system files in the root directory
Error to not make next time: have a FAT32 system floppy at hand
Bruce (who wants a FAT32 on his notebook with a suspend partition)
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