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Conference dypss1::brain_bogglers

Title:Brain Bogglers
Notice:BRAIN_BOGGLERS is, like, back in business, totally
Moderator:BUSY::SLAB
Created:Mon Jul 13 1987
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1441
Total number of notes:13981

1346.0. "THERE AND BACK AGAIN" by TAVIS::SHIRAN () Sun Feb 19 1995 08:23

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1346.1Am I missing something?WRKSYS::LONGSun Feb 19 1995 18:493
1346.2CHANGING SPEED ?TAVIS::SHIRANMon Feb 20 1995 08:205
1346.3HANNAH::OSMANsee HANNAH::IGLOO$:[OSMAN]ERIC.VT240Mon Feb 20 1995 21:1820
1346.4So my answer is maybe ... or maybe not.BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Mon Feb 20 1995 22:1517
1346.5BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Mon Feb 20 1995 22:185
1346.6Take Two peopleCAPELA::GILLESPIESTue Feb 21 1995 13:5810
1346.7HANNAH::OSMANsee HANNAH::IGLOO$:[OSMAN]ERIC.VT240Wed Feb 22 1995 19:495
1346.8Reformatted for legibilityRT128::KENAHDo we have any peanut butter?Thu Feb 23 1995 20:0613
1346.9BUSY::SLABDon't get even ... get odd!!Fri Feb 07 1997 19:178
    
    	This was never actually answered.
    
    	Can it be, as worded?  I don't think so, since velocity isn't
    	necessarily a constant for the 2 trips.  Average velocity is
    	the same, of course, since it took the same amount of time to
    	go up as it did to go down.
    
1346.10this puzzle is closed22603::BUCHANANthe rolling stone catches the wormSun Feb 09 1997 23:5122
    This was answered by Eric. It's got nothing to do with velocity. It's
    just an application of the Intermediate Value Theorem. Now it actually
    takes a lot of mathematics to *prove* that theorem, but the result is
    intuitively obvious, and I think the idea of this puzzle is just to get
    to a point where you can see why the result is obvious.
    
    Our traveller is going up the hill, starting at 8am from the bottom. 
    Imagine that there is another traveller who starts from the top of the
    hill going down at the same time, 8am. Then however they vary their
    speed, and backtrack, and delay, we do know that by 8pm, each has
    reached his destination. It is "obvious" that at some point they must
    have passed, and at that point they were both at the same place on the
    mountain at the same time.
    
    The rest of the puzzle is just a complication that the "another
    traveller" is actually a "phantom" appearing 24 hours before he
    actually walks down the mountain. In the era of "X-Files" we should
    have no difficulty dealing with this complication, which does not
    affect the answer.
    
    Cheers,
    Andrew.