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543.0. "Mercury" by OSOSPS::KAGEYAMA (Trust, but Verify) Sun Oct 06 1996 21:26

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543.1Song ListOSOSPS::KAGEYAMATrust, but VerifyWed Nov 06 1996 23:41434
543.2chicago blues before Chicago blues60326::KAGEYAMATrust, but VerifyTue Feb 25 1997 23:2570
This box set changed my view of blues. To me the word blues always 
suggest Chicago, Delta, or Downhome blues. Although I know rhythm and 
blues is a kind of blues, but it was difficult for me to understand 
the wide variety of blues without listening to Kansas City, West Coast,
and southwest blues.

Jim O'Neal, a founding editor of Living Blues Magazine, wrote an 
excellent description of the music of Mercury Records in the booklet of
this set.

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  Mercury records has never been as strongly associated with the sound of
Chicago, especially Chicago blues, as its legendary competitors Chess 
and Vee-Jay. Yet Mercury may have been more represntative of Chicago in
a broader sense than any other companny. ...

  When it came to the blues, Mercury apparently decided that the bucks 
weren't in the downhome styles that are now popular perceived as classic
"Chicago blues." Indeed, blues historians have chronicled the Chicago 
story with nary a mention of Mercury Records. In accounts written by 
authorities more conversant in jazz and R&B, however, the music of 
Mercury play a larger role. For while Mercury usually shunned the blues
of a different element of black Chicago back in the 1940s and '50s: not
the newly arriving masses of migrants from the rural Mississipi Delta,
but the establised South Side population which already prided itself in
its urban sophistication. The South Side had become the cultural capital
of black America, and the music favored by the community leadership was
of a decidedly refined caliber.

  The entertainment section of Chicago Defender, the country's top black
newspaper, was filled with ads, photos and news from South Side lounges,
showclubs, and theaters, The music featured in the early post-World War
II issues was often blues: not the transplanted juke joint styles up 
from MIssissipi, Arkansas, and Tennessee, however, but a more polished 
blend that had much in common with the black urban music then played in
Los Angels, Kansas City, Houston, Harlem. While the raw guitar/harmonica
blues combos wailed away in the corner taverns and blasted their 
amplified sounds to teeming crowds on Maxwell Street, the Defender 
focused on the musical fare offered at the more fashionable nightspots 
by piano trios, saxophone-dominated showbands, jump blues groups, jazz 
ensembles, and vocalists who could croon a pop standard or belt out a 
blues with equal ease. At a time when Big Bill Broonzy, John Lee "sonny
Boy" Williamson and Tampa Red were still recording hits for major 
national labels and Muddy Waters and Little Walter were in the process 
of revolutionizing the sound of blues, the title "King of the Blues" was
variously bestowed by the Defender on such singers as Gatemouth Moore, 
Andrew Tibbs and Dr. Jo Jo Adams. News stories followed the exploits of
Dinah Washington, T-Bone Walker, Cleanhead Vinson, Cootie Williams and 
especailly Louis Jordan.

  Today's listenership might easily be misled because of the preponderance 
of Delta-based Chicago blues recordings from this period selected for 
reissue by collectors's labels, but in truth a large portion of the 
blues records coming out of Chicago in the Forties and early Fifties
were decidedly more urbane, owning more to jazz and jump than to jukes
and the Conqueror roots. Independent record labels such as Hy-Tone, 
Miracle, Rhumboogies, United and even Aristcrat (chess's predecessor) 
directed the majority of their output towards smooth vocal sytlings, 
city blues and jazz. In this field the most prolific of all the Chicago
labels was Mercury, which released some 300 records in its "Race" series
from 1946 to 1952, in addition to several released in 1945-46 before the
catalog was subdivied into different series.
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I read topic 341, "Outline of blues history and styles" written by Jay
Clark(Yeah, it's certainly a great topic), again and could understand 
what Tom Parmenter had been saying there. 

- Kazunori
543.3HELIX::CLARKWed Feb 26 1997 15:3530
  Sounds like you're getting your money's worth, and more, from that boxed
  set...
  
  Certainly the more one listens, the more one hears musical connections,
  the harder it becomes to categorize...

  I think categorization is one of life's necessary evils...  Beginners need
  to be able to see the outline of the forest without being obscured by the
  trees -- where the "trees" are inconvenient facts and connections.  8)

  I wonder if professional musicology becomes an exercise in iterative
  widening & narrowing of focus -- forest, trees, forest, trees...  Prune
  your outlook, grow your outlook, prune, grow...  Driven by the need to
  communicate your musical passions (otherwise why bother...).

  You'll note that some of the musicians in the Mercury set did factor into
  my blues history/styles outline.  I had sections for prewar Chicago
  (Vocalion and Bluebird artists whose records tend to all sound the same)
  and postwar Chicago (the Chess/VeeJay/etc. artists sometimes equated with
  "Chicago blues").  Artists recorded by Mercury show up in other
  categories, including jump/R&B and postwar urban niches.
  
  What's not captured is that all these threads coexisted, and thrived, in
  postwar Chicago at the same time.  It was the best "herding of bison" I
  could achieve, on a single printable sheet, at the time.
  
  Also, U.S. (and worldwide) cities in general were crossroads of blues,
  R&B, jazz, country, and every other imaginable commercial musical form
  after the war, and travel/communication across geographies had become
  routine -- no categorization is going to begin to do it justice.   - Jay
543.4I need more "education"OSOV03::KAGEYAMATrust, but VerifySun Mar 02 1997 21:3728
Jay,

I really appreciate your musical passions. Thanks for your comments.


>I read topic 341, "Outline of blues history and styles" written by Jay
>Clark(Yeah, it's certainly a great topic), again and could understand 
>what Tom Parmenter had been saying there. 

What I tried to say in the above might be my misintrpretation and needs
more knowledge and intensive reading of that topic. I tried to say one's
perception of musical category could vary from when he started his 
listening career and what musical scene exited at that time.

Today's listeners perceive blues, rhythm and blues, and jazz as a 
distinct categories. But in the late 1940s, rhythm and blues is at its 
birth, and blues and jazz are lending their hands. It's no wonder that 
listeners from that age have a different perspective to today's 
counetrparts. (I suggest Tom belongs to elder generation, which led to 
his view that I could undestand through this box set)


I picked up two double LP sets last week which compiled from Vocalion 
and Decca "Race" series in 1930s and 40s. I'll pursuit this area for a 
while.

- Kazunori
543.5Langston Hueges's 100 selections of jazzOSOV03::KAGEYAMATrust, but VerifyMon Mar 03 1997 22:58132
>Today's listeners perceive blues, rhythm and blues, and jazz as a 
>distinct categories. But in the late 1940s, rhythm and blues is at its 
>birth, and blues and jazz are lending their hands. It's no wonder that 
>listeners from that age have a different perspective to today's 
>counetrparts.

I rented a book written by Langston Hueges, "The First Book of 
Jazz"(1955) from the public library. In the appendix there's his 100 
selections of performances. It's quite interesting as an appendix of 
jazz book. Here is blues/R&B conference but it must be interesting to 
the audience of this conference. (I soted it by the performer's name)

- Kazunori


Andy Kirk                       What's Your Story, Morning      Decca
                                  Glory                         
Artie Shaw                      Star Dust                       Victor
Artie Shaw(with Billy Holliday) Any Old Time                    Bluebird
Artie Shaw(with Hot Lips Page)  St. James Infirmary             Victor
Benny Goodman                   Blues Skies                     Victor
Benny Goodman Quintet           I Cried For You                 Bluebird
  (with Teddy Wilson)                                           
Benny Goodman Trio              After You've Gone               Victor
Benny Moten's Kansas City       Yazoo Blues                     Victor
  Orchestra                                                     
Bertha Chippie Hill             Trouble In Mind                 Okeh
  (with Armstrong)                                              
Bessie Smith                    St. Louis Blues                 Columbia
Bessie Smith                    Back Water Blues                Columbia
Bessie Smith                    Yellow Dog Blues                Columbia
Bix Beiderbecke                 At The Jazz Band Ball           Columbia
Bob Crosby                      Big Noise From Winnetka         Decca
Bonnemere                       Winter Wonderland               Roost
Buddy Johnson(with Ella Johnson)Stormy Weather                  Decca
Bunk Johnson's Brass Band       When The Saints Go Marching In  Victor
Cab Calloway                    Minnie The Moocher              Brunswick
Charlie Barnet                  Cherokee                        Bluebird
Charlie Parker                  Lover Man                       Dial
Chick Webb(with Ella Fitzgerald)A-Tisket A-Tasket               Decca
Coleman Hawkins                 Body And Soul                   Bluebird
Count Basie                     How Long Blues                  Decca
Count Basie                     One O'Clock Jump                Decca
Count Basie(Jimmie Rushing)     Good Morning Blues              Decca
Dizzy Gillespie                 Salted Peanuts                  Manor
Doc Sausage and His Mad Lads    Rag Mop                         Regal
Duke Ellington                  Dear Old Southland              Victor
Duke Ellington                  Skin Deep                       Columbia
  (with Louis Bellson)                                          
Duke Ellington                  The Mooche                      Victor
Earl Hines(Boogie Woogie)       St. Louis Blues                 V-Disc
Eddie Heywood                   Begin The Beguine               Commodore
Erskine Hawkins                 Tuxedo Junction                 Bluebird
Erskine Hawkins                 After Hours                     Bluebird
Fats Waller                     I'm Gonna Sit Right Down And    Victor
                                  Write Myself A Letter         
Fletcher Henderson              Christopher Columbus            Decca
Frenchy's String Band           Texas And Pacific Blues         Columbia
Gerry Mulligan Quartet          Carson City Stage               Pacific
Glen Miller                     Danny Boy                       Bluebird
Glen Miller                     Chattanooga Choo Choo           Victor
Hall Johnson Choir              St. Louis Blues                 Victor
Harry James                     Skylark                         Columbia
James P. Johnson                Snowy Morning Blues             Folkways
Jelly Roll Morton               Mamie's Blues                   Commodore
Jimmy Lunceford                 Well, All Right Then            Columbia
Jimmy Yancey                    Bugle Call Rag                  Riverside
Jimmy and Mama Yancey           How Long Blues                  Atlantic
Joe Loco                        Jingle Bells                    Tico
Johnny Hodges                   Tea For Two                     Clef
Johnny Sparrow                  Sparrow's Flight                Melford
Jonny Moore's Three Blazers     St. Louis Blues                 Exclusive
Jonny Moore's Three Blazers     Drifting Blues                  Exclusive
Josh White                      Careless Love                   Asch
King Cole Trio                  It's Only A Paper Moon          Capitol
King Cole Trio                  Straighten Up And Fly Right     Capitol
King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band  Dippermouth Blues               Brunswick
Larry Adler                     St. Louis Blues                 Decca
  (with John Kirby's Orch.)                                     
Leonard Feather and Dan Burley  Suite In Four Comfortable       Continental
                                  Quarters                      
Lewis, Johnson, and Ammons      Boogie Woogie Prayer            Columbia
Lionel Hampton                  Flying Home                     Decca
Lionel Hampton                  Hey Baba Rebop                  Decca
Llyod Glenn                     Chica Boo                       Swing Time
Louis Armstrong                 St. Louis Blues                 Okeh
Louis Armstrong                 West And Blues                  Columbia
Louis Jordan                    Old Man Mose Is Dead            Decca
Luis Russell                    Call Of The Freaks              Okeh
Ma Rainey                       Traveling Blues                 Paramount
  (with Jug Washboard Band)                                     
Ma Rainey(with Louis Armstrong) See See Rider                   Paramount
Marl Young's Orchestra          So Long                         Sunbeam
Mary Low Williams               Night Life                      Brunswick
Meade Lux Lewis                 Honky Tonk Train                Victor,Decca
Memphis Minie                   Me And My Chauffeur             Okeh
Morris Lane's Combo             September Song                  Continental
Nellie Lutcher                  He's A Real Gone Guy            Capitol
Original Dixieland Jazz Band    Tiger Rag                       Columbia
Oscar Peterson                  Willow Weep For Me              Clef
Paul Whiteman                   Rhapsody In Blue                Victor
  (with George Gershwin)                                        
Paul Whiteman                   Aunt Hager's Blues              Decca
  (with Jack Teagarden)                                         
Pine Top Smith                  Pine Top's Boogie               Brunswick
Professor Longhair              Mardi Gras In New Orleans       Atlantic
Red Saunders(with Hambone Kids) Hambone                         Okeh
Rex Stewart                     Mobile Baby                     "X" Vault 
                                                                  Originals
Rex Stewart                     Solid Rock                      H.R.S.
  (with Django Reinhardt)                                       
Sister Rosetta Tharpe           Sit Down                        Decca
Slim Gaillard and Slam Stewart  Flat Fleet Floogee              Vocalion
Sonny Knight                    But Officer                     Aladdin
Sonny Terry                     Lonesome Train                  Asch
Sonny Terry                     Fox Chase                       Columbia
  (with Red on Washboard)                                       
Tadd Dameron                    Cashbah                         Capitol
Teddy Wilson                    Miss Brown To You               Columbia
  (with Billiy Holliday)                                        
Thelonious Monk                 Round About Midnight            Musicraft
Tiny Grimes                     Begin The Beguine               Atlantic
Tommy Dorsey                    Lonesome Road                   Victor
Tommy Dorsey                    Marie                           Victor
Tommy Dorsey                    For You                         Victor
Una Mae Carlisle                He's The Best Little Yankee     Joe Davis
  (with Ray Nance)                To Me                         
W.C.Handy(with narration)       Memphis Blues And Others        Audio Archives
Willie Smith                    Tea For Two                     Mercury
Wilton Crawley                  Shadow Of The Blues             Okeh
Woody Herman                    Lemon Drop                      Capitol
543.6jazz, eh?HELIX::CLARKTue Mar 04 1997 12:1531
>                 -< Langston Hueges's 100 selections of jazz >-

  Those are good selections.
  
  Actually there are dozens and dozens of excellent jazz discographies,
  whether oriented toward individual performances or albums (or CDs).
  Joachim Berendt, Nat Hentoff, Len Lyons, Mark Gridley, Dean & Mary Tudor,
  on and on.  [Nat Hentoff's brief appendix to "Jazz Is" zeroes in on some
  of the real treasures...]

  The best single purchase you can make to explore jazz styles is the
  Smithsonian Anthology of Classic Jazz (either edition, the 1st can be
  found in stateside used record stores).  Between the selections, spanning
  Scott Joplin/Bessie Smith/Jelly Roll Morton to Ornette Coleman/John
  Coltrane/World Saxophone Quartet, and the commentary from [the late] ace
  critic Martin Williams & others, it's an incredible package.

  Many jazz texts and history courses (created by writers and universities
  with no ties to the Smithsonian Institute) are keyed explicitly to the
  Smithsonian box set.

  (Other Smithsonian sets -- big band jazz, singers and soloists, etc. --
  are not as necessary.  On the other hand, DO NOT MISS the Smithsonian box
  "The Blues: Anthology of Classic Bluees Singers".)

  Did you know that jazz predated blues as a commercial form of music?
  (By just a few years.)
  
  Jazz is actually my favorite music, and I do view it as the loftiest peak
  of blues-informed musical genres, but I'll save further jazz-related
  rambling for FINALY::JAZZ...    - Jay
543.7HUMANE::JAZZNEWVAX::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPTue Mar 04 1997 12:319
re: .6

>  Jazz is actually my favorite music, and I do view it as the loftiest peak
>  of blues-informed musical genres, but I'll save further jazz-related
>  rambling for FINALY::JAZZ...    - Jay

Actually, JAZZ is on HUMANE nowadays.  Press KP7 and all that...

-Hal
543.8Kansas City traditionOSOV03::KAGEYAMATrust, but VerifyTue Mar 11 1997 23:4924
Through this box set I found the importance of Jay McShann in Kansas 
City blues and jazz scene. You can hear his orchestra, his piano, with 
Walter Brown, Crown Prince Waterford, and Jimmy Witherspoon as vocalists.
The booklet says Jay McShann/Jimmy Witherspoon collaboration could be 
compared to Count Basie/Jimmy Rushing or Pete Johnson/Big Joe Turner.
I've known Big Joe Turner but haven't considered Pete Johnson/Big Joe 
Turner works in Kansas City music scene. Now I want to hear Count Basie/
Jimmy Rushing collaboration.(I know Rushing's topics is here but I was 
suprised again by the fact Rushing's, Witherspoon's, and Turner's topics
were written by the same guy, Tom Parmenter.)

Albert Ammons is the pianist known as one of boogie woogie trio. Other 
two, Pete Johnson and Meade Lux Lewis, are not in this box set. I only 
know Pete Johnson as a Joe Turner's collaborator, and don't know much 
about Meade Lux Lewis. I'll pursuit them further.

Louis Jordan is not in this set(I believe he was the Decca artist), but
his hit "Buzz Me", played Alber Ammons and Sippie Wallace, is. When I 
created a Jordan's topic, 504, my interest of him as a forerunner of R&R
era. But through this set I could understand the music of his age.(Still
he is unique)

- Kazunori