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Title:Kit: Note 4229; Please use NOTED::PWDOSWIN5 for V4.x server
Notice:Kit: Note 4229; Please use NOTED::PWDOSWIN5 for V4.x server
Moderator:CPEEDY::KENNEDY
Created:Fri Dec 18 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4319
Total number of notes:18478

4282.0. "V5.0E ECO1 Netlogon ?" by VMSNET::J_DOUGLAS () Tue May 06 1997 22:16

    Hello,
    
    I think this server is a bit confused, the NET START commands 
    shows NETLOGON as running yet the ADMIN/ANAL shows that netlogon
    service failed to start. The resulting symptoms are that they 
    have trouble keeping this node (BDC) in sync with the (PDC) 
    and they are also having problems with users not being able 
    to connect to network drives. Any ideas as to what would be 
    causing this. 
    
    See C970506-6174 for more info / dial in .
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    	Johnny.  
    
    
    **************************
    NODE BFG01 configuration:
    **************************
    
    $ write sys$output f$getsyi ("hw_name")
    VAX 4000-100A
    
    $ pwver
    
    Information on PATHWORKS for OpenVMS images installed on this system:
    
              Image Name            Image Version      Link date       
    Linker ID
    ------------------------------ ---------------- ----------------- 
    -------------
    PWRK$LMSRV                     V5.0-510E         2-MAR-1997 05:17 
    
    
    
    
    
   $ admin/anal/since=19:26
       ================= EVENT #49646 ==================
    
    Event Time:   6-MAY-1997 19:27:23.21       Node:  BFG01
    Process Id:   0000023D
    Event:        Netlogon service failed to start
    Event Source: LAN Manager Daemon
    Event Class:  Error
    
          Text:   NetServerReqChallenge failed. GUEST acct ok on primary?.
    
    
    $ show time
       6-MAY-1997 19:31:35
    
    $ net start
    These LAN Manager services are started:
    NETLOGON                 ALERTER                  TIMESOURCE
    SERVER
    The command completed successfully.
    
    $ admin/anal/since=19:30
    
      :::::::::: PATHWORKS Error Log Report ::::::::::
               DATE:  6-MAY-1997 19:34:28.47
    
       ================= EVENT #49647 ==================
    
    Event Time:   6-MAY-1997 19:32:23.21       Node:  BFG01
    Process Id:   0000023D
    Event:        Netlogon service failed to start
    Event Source: LAN Manager Daemon
    Event Class:  Error
    
          Text:   NetServerReqChallenge failed. GUEST acct ok on primary?.
    
    
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4282.1More detailsUTRTSC::EISINKNo Kipling apes todayWed May 07 1997 07:288
    	John,
    
    can you post more details. What is net error /revers saying, any
    errors in logfile. Is the pdc PATHWORKS or a NT box.
    What happens when you do a net stop netlogon /net start netlogon.
    
    Rob
    
4282.2Is this a WAN?VMSNET::MSTEWARTThats it! You win the $64 question!Wed May 07 1997 08:4912
    Johnny,
    
    If this is BF Goodrich then talk to me. For those of you listening ...
    
    There seems to be an increasing number of customers who are attempting
    to keep domain members (BDCs and a PDC) spread across a WAN using
    DECnet or NETBEUI. Of course we tell them turn on IP and use the
    LMHOSTS feature but they all have various reasons for not wanting to do
    that. Fine, in that case I tell them don't cry when UAS replication
    fails or is intermittent!
    
    Mike
4282.3It is BF GoodrichVMSNET::J_DOUGLASWed May 07 1997 13:4853
    
    Yes it is B. F. Goodrich.
    
    They are trying to run in a domain spread accross a WAN using DECnet 
    as the protocol. 
    
    The errors in net error /rev are :   as logged on BDC.
    
    
          Program             Message             Time<CR>                               
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    NETLOGON            3210                05-06-97 07:22PM<CR>                   
    NET3210:  Failed to authenticate with CLS001, the domain controller for
    domain 
    BFGLGD.<CR>                                                                    
    NETLOGON            3210                05-06-97 07:22PM<CR>                   
    NET3210:  Failed to authenticate with CLS001, the domain controller for
    domain 
    BFGLGD.<CR>                                                                    
    NETLOGON            3210                05-06-97 07:17PM<CR>                   
    NET3210:  Failed to authenticate with CLS001, the domain controller for
    domain 
    BFGLGD.<CR>                                                                    
    NETLOGON            3210                05-06-97 07:12PM<CR>                   
    NET3210:  Failed to authenticate with CLS001, the domain controller for
    domain 
    BFGLGD.<CR>                                                                    
    NETLOGON            3210                05-06-97 07:07PM<CR>                   
    NET3210:  Failed to authenticate with CLS001, the domain controller for
    domain 
    BFGLGD.<CR>                                                                    
    NETLOGON            3210                05-06-97 07:02PM<CR>                   
    NET3210:  Failed to authenticate with CLS001, the domain controller for
    domain 
    BFGLGD.<CR>                                                                    
    NETLOGON            3210                05-06-97 06:57PM<CR>                   
    
    
    
    The PRIMARY  net error /rev complains of the time difference. 
    The two nodes are in two different time zones. 
    
    
    Program             Message             Time<CR>                               
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    NETLOGON            6099                05-02-97 05:00PM<CR>                   
    LMU6099:   WARNING: The internal clock of server BFG01<CR>                     
     is out of sync with the primary server CLS001.<CR>                            
    NETLOGON            6099                05-01-97 08:47AM<CR>                   
    LMU6099:   WARNING: The internal clock of server BFG01<CR>                     
     is out of sync with the primary server CLS001.<CR>