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Title:Kit: Note 4229; Please use NOTED::PWDOSWIN5 for V4.x server
Notice:Kit: Note 4229; Please use NOTED::PWDOSWIN5 for V4.x server
Moderator:CPEEDY::KENNEDY
Created:Fri Dec 18 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4319
Total number of notes:18478

4269.0. "Password Prompt during W95 Printshare connection" by PEARS::KARNBAUM () Tue Apr 22 1997 06:10

    hi,
    
    i have a customer with a strange Password problem under WIN95
    and PW VMS V5.0 using PW V5 printer shares.
    The PW V5 Server is in BCM, Hostpasswordsync=yes in lanman.ini,
    each LM User has a mapped VMS user, accounts are not expired or
    on disuser, WIN95 clients get licenses okay.
    The PDC is a NT Server connect over a WAN to The BDC (PW V5 VMS).
    WIN95 client logon to the Domain and can connect to PW V5 Fileshares
    okay, seen as the correct users ($ net session), and can work okay.
    Only when connecting to PW V5 Printshares, they are asked for Passwort
    when they want to start Printjobs. After giving the LM Passwort they
    can print. Strange now, this only happens when LM password and UAF 
    password are out of sync. As soon it is set to the same they are not
    prompted for a password and can print okay.
    LM security on VMS is LM only. Printshare has permissions YP for
    *users and *guests, VMS protection of printer is (S:E,O:D,G:R,W:W) no
    Acls. I dont exactly know what the printer protection "E" and "W" mean.
    
    It seems strange, that only the Printshares have the problems and that
    all is okay if passwords are synchronised between UAS and UAF.
    Also this happens only form WIN95 client, Windows 3.x do not have this
    problem.
    
    any help would be appreciated
    
    Walter Karnbaum
    
    (CSC Munich)
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4269.1Just questions ;o)VMSNET::P_NUNEZTue Apr 22 1997 10:1625
    Walter,
    
    What specific version of the v5 server do they have ($ pwver)?
    
    BCM shouldn't affect Win95 clients (only clients running DEC basic
    redir).  But, you say:
    
    >Only when connecting to PW V5 Printshares, they are asked for Passwort
    >when they want to start Printjobs. After giving the LM Passwort they
    >can print. Strange now, this only happens when LM password and UAF 
    >password are out of sync. As soon it is set to the same they are not
    >prompted for a password and can print okay.
    
    Are these printers setup as network printers such that the connection
    to the printer is made when a user sends a print job to that printer or
    are the print share connections established, say, during Win95 startup?
    
    If they attempt a connection from a DOS window using NET USE LPT1:
    \\server\printshare, do they also get prompted for a password?  
    
    And what password are you changing when you sync them?  Are you setting
    the UAF password the same as the domain/uas password, vice versa, or
    are both being changed to the same new value?
    
    Paul
4269.2Different domains !PEARS::KARNBAUMTue Apr 29 1997 05:1622
    hallo Paul,
    
    thanks for your reply.
    The customer uses PW V5.0D ECO3 on the VMS Server, also the WIN95
    printer gets connected during printing. The printer is setup as
    network printer (\\servername\printshare).
    The passwords get synchronised with 'winpass', a DEC unsupported
    utility i do not know much about.
    Customer must insert the LANMAN Password of the user when connecting
    to the printer.
    It turned out, that customer uses different domains. She logs in to 
    a domain on a WAN, but connects the printers on a PW V5 Server on
    the LAN and in a different domain.
    I told her to make sure the passwords for the LANMAN users are the
    same on both domains, otherwise it would be normal that she gets
    prompted for a LM password.
    Still i do not really know, why the synchronisation of UAF and UAS
    has any influence on this behaviour ?
    
    any further thoughts ?
    
    Walter