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Title:Kit: Note 4229; Please use NOTED::PWDOSWIN5 for V4.x server
Notice:Kit: Note 4229; Please use NOTED::PWDOSWIN5 for V4.x server
Moderator:CPEEDY::KENNEDY
Created:Fri Dec 18 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4319
Total number of notes:18478

4209.0. "Problem connecting in WAN domain" by VMSNET::L_GULICK (When the impossible is eliminated...) Tue Mar 18 1997 10:03

Customer has a VAX with OpenVMS 6.2 and PATHWORKS for OpenVMS 5.0D eco3
configured as a standalone server.

Only protocol used is TCP/IP with Multinet 3.3 on the VMS server.

PDC is a WNT V4.0 server reachable only through routed IP.

She has used the articles we have for integration of PW/VMS servers and
WNT PDC, and additionally set up according to the article:

[PW-VMS]V5 Implementing WAN Domain Using TCP/IP LMHOSTS

These articles have worked well for most customers, but when she tries 
to promote the PW server to BDC, she gets net 2453, unable to find PDC.

Items we have checked:

	guest, admin, administrator, server accounts 
	domain setting and every line in lanman.ini
	net error (none)
	event log (nothing)
	VAX lmhosts file

Other info:

	PDC  IP address is 198.174.10.77
	    Subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
	VAX  IP address is 204.221.0.2
	    Subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
	Router IP addr  is 204.221.0.1

	PDC and VAX use DNS
	Ping between systems by name is no problem
	Net logon from VAX fails with "logged on standalone"
	Net view doesn't see PDC
	Net view \\PDC shows the shares on the PDC
	Connect to share from PDC gets "network path not found"
		with and without lmhosts file on PDC

Any ideas?

Lew
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4209.1CPEEDY::wells.lkg.dec.com::wellsPhil WellsTue Mar 18 1997 10:2422
The lmhost file should have one or more entries that look something 
like

102.54.94.97     rhino         #PRE #DOM:networking  #net group's DC

where 

"102.54.94.97" equals the PDC address
"rhino" equals the pdc (or bdc) name
"networking" equals the domain name

Get a lan trace.  You should see a UDP datagram to the PDCs internet 
address and not a broadcast datagram (internet address ff.ff.ff.ff). 
You may see both which is ok.

I think I understand that you are currently standalone server.  Do 
have an admin account with the same password on both the PDC and the 
standalone server?  Are you logged into this account when you change 
the role?

Can you change role to member server?  If so, does replication 
happen?
4209.2ThanksVMSNET::L_GULICKLew GulickTue Mar 18 1997 11:1740
Phil,

>The lmhost file should have one or more entries that look something
>like
>
>102.54.94.97     rhino         #PRE #DOM:networking  #net group's DC
>
>where
>
>"102.54.94.97" equals the PDC address
>"rhino" equals the pdc (or bdc) name
>"networking" equals the domain name

Checked this item-by-item with her (not logged in myself).  It's clear
there is something like this wrong.

>Get a lan trace.  You should see a UDP datagram to the PDCs internet
>address and not a broadcast datagram (internet address ff.ff.ff.ff).
>You may see both which is ok.

This is the next step, but not easy at many sites.

>I think I understand that you are currently standalone server.  Do
>have an admin account with the same password on both the PDC and the
>standalone server?  Are you logged into this account when you change
>the role?

Yes; logged in as admin, but only standalone, since it couldn't find the
PDC.  The message back for any role change is net2453 "Unable to find
the domain controller for this domain".  Member or backup is the same.

Not being there to see the lmhosts, etc. myself, I can't say she's not
overlooking something in there.  I will try to log in to the site and
then go for a LAN trace.

Thanks,

Lew