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Title:Kit: Note 4229; Please use NOTED::PWDOSWIN5 for V4.x server
Notice:Kit: Note 4229; Please use NOTED::PWDOSWIN5 for V4.x server
Moderator:CPEEDY::KENNEDY
Created:Fri Dec 18 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4319
Total number of notes:18478

4119.0. "More Win95 TCP+PW Alias ?'s" by GRANPA::BARABIA () Tue Jan 21 1997 14:02

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4119.1UTRTSC::SWEEPI want a lolly...Wed Jan 22 1997 09:1812
4119.2I'm trying to say this.GRANPA::BARABIAWed Jan 22 1997 10:0010
4119.3UTRTSC::SWEEPI want a lolly...Thu Jan 23 1997 04:3923
4119.4VMSNET::S_VORESmile - Mickey's Watching!Mon Jan 27 1997 10:5912
>    have an article that appeared in the January issue of "PATHWORKS
>    Manager" written by someone named  Scott Barielle that discusses the
...
>    this customer has an article that appeared in a PATHWORKS publication
>    that seems to indicate otherwise.

Please note that Scott, while a good guy, is not part of the PATHWORKS
engineering nor support teams and that "PATHWORKS Manager" is not a
Digital publication.



4119.5GRANPA::BARABIATue Jan 28 1997 08:4120
    re.4
    
    Although I can't personaly verify Scott is a "good guy" I'm aware he's
    not part of the PATHWORKS engineering group and that the "PATHWORKS 
    Manager" publication is not an official Digital pub. 
    
    That said, this customer although aware of these things, still gets
    the publicaion and reads the articles and stuck in my face the article
    Scott wrote concerning the use of the PATHWORKS Alias with the TCP/IP
    stack included with Windows95 and he has concerns and tasked me with
    verifying the accuracy of the article.
    
    I put a call into the CSC who assured me the problem described was
    addressed with PW V5.0D ECO3. Is this accurate? Can I expect that when
    we enable PATHWORKS with TCP/IP that our Win95 Clients will be able to
    use the PATHWORKS Alias to access Shares and the Servers?
    
    Thansk for the input.
    
    Barry A
4119.6VMSNET::S_VORESmile - Mickey's Watching!Tue Jan 28 1997 08:489
>...customer...gets the publication...stuck in my face...

do they also check the corner 7-11, insist that Elvis should be there, and
fight with the counter-boy based on the tabloids?    :-)

*sigh* 


we now return you to your regularly scheduled Note.
4119.7VMSNET::P_NUNEZTue Jan 28 1997 09:2123
    Barry,
    
    First, did you see note 4076 - it looks like MS has just ack'd that a
    problem exists with Win95 and WinNT TCP/IP when WINS is enabled.
    
    >He also suggests 3 possible
    >solutions to the problem. One being a different TCP/IP stack, use a
    >"fix" available for Digital TCP/IP services for VMS and the 3rd being
    >the most feasible which is to unbind TCP/IP from the Win95 client
    >service. I pretty much understand the issue and fixes except for one.
    
    As for the a "fix" for UCX and v5.0D ECO3, I think what they're
    referring to is using the UCX 4.x metric server which, if given the
    same name as the PATHWORKS alias, can be accessed by clients using
    DNS/DNR. Thus you avoid the NETBIOS findname broadcast.  It requires
    v5.0D ECO3 because prior to eco3 the alias name was known to only one
    node in the cluster at a time. If the DNS returned an address of a
    cluster member that wasn't the one listening at the time, the client
    would not connect.  With v5.0d ECO3 the name is known to all cluster
    members running pathworks (while only one will respond to findname
    broadcast requests). 
    
    Paul
4119.8Is the fix part of OpenVMS Lan Manager Ver.ACISS2::BRANSTEINNever mess with another man's rhubarbTue Jan 28 1997 09:407
    re .7
    
    I have reading all these notes regarding WINS, WIN95 Clients and
    Pathworks V5 Servers.  Is this "fix" only for UCX or does this apply to
    OpenVMS LAN Manager Version V5.0D ec03 as well?
    
    Gary
4119.9Does fix work with other TCP stacks?ACISS2::BRANSTEINNever mess with another man's rhubarbTue Jan 28 1997 10:0110
    re -.8
    
    Ooops,
    
    Let me rephrase the question.  Will the patch work with other TCP
    stacks, ie. TCPWARE?
    
    Regards,
    Gary
    
4119.10GRANPA::BARABIATue Jan 28 1997 11:3620
    
    re.6 - Yea, thats pretty much the way these guys work here!!
    Honestly they almost go out of there way to give us grief and
    challenge us on the stability/usability/functionality of our products.
    Drives me nuts. One thing though, they are as equally eager to harass
    Microsoft. Refering back to this article Scott wrote, he indicates MS
    did not implement RFC 1001/1002 in the IP stack, so he asking
    Microsoft how come!!
     
    
    re.7 - Paul, yea I've seen some of the info regarding Win95 and WINS
    and TCP/IP. One thing though, is that we ARE NOT using WINS here at all
    as of yet, just Win95 Clients with TCP/IP and PATHWORKS Servers using
    TGV Multinet, well actually, Multinet has been disabled for sometime
    now due to problems with TGV. We are now close to getting Multinet
    fixed and IP re-enabled on the servers for PATHWORKS access. I need to
    determine if when we do that, we'll not have problems with our TCP/IP
    clients. Thanks for the repsonses.
    
    Barry