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Title:DECWINDOWS
Notice:DECwindows Motif V1.2-4 SSB kits: note 5519
Moderator:GRIM::MESSENGER
Created:Wed Nov 28 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5861
Total number of notes:24081

5854.0. "no login box, but 'invalid access from transport: LOCAL'" by LNZALI::BACHNER (Mouse not found. Click OK to continue) Fri May 23 1997 12:46

A customer reported that when he tried to restart the DECwindows server (OpenVMS
Alpha V6.2, don't know the Motif version yet) with @DECW$STARTUP RESTART (from
the system account) the screen remained grey and no login box did appear.

The DECW$SERVER_0_ERROR.LOG file contained the following strange messages:

DEC-XTRAP:  Vers. 3.3-0 successfully loaded
21-MAY-1997 09:52:18.3 Calling the dispatcher...
21-MAY-1997 09:52:23.8 Invalid access from transport: LOCAL
                                                node: 0
                                                user: 
SER_2
21-MAY-1997 09:52:28.9 Invalid access from transport: LOCAL
                                                node: 0
                                                user: USER_2
21-MAY-1997 09:52:34.0 Invalid access from transport: LOCAL
                                                node: 0
                                                user: USER_2

(USER_2 stands for some real username on this system, but not the SYSTEM
account).

- what would try to open a connection from a different username even before the
  login box is there ?
- why would this prevent the login box from coming up ?

Thanks for your help,
Hans.
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5854.1is this *that* strange ?LNZALI::BACHNERMouse not found. Click OK to continueTue May 27 1997 10:374
I'd really appreciate any help. Is this a totally screwed up situation ?

Thanks,
Hans.
5854.2GRIM::MESSENGERBob MessengerWed May 28 1997 10:4826
Hans,

If you're in Europe you might not be aware of the fact that last weekend
was a long weekend in the United States (Memorial Day).

The "invalid access" errors in the server log file might be caused by a
program that the customer is trying to run during DECwindows startup. e.g.
they could have redefined the DECW$MAINAPP global symbol in
sys$manager:decw$private_apps_setup.com.  Some people do this because they
want DECwindows to come up with the user already logged in instead of
making the user enter a username and password at the login box.

Is the DECW$LOGINOUT process or a _WSAn: process getting started briefly
and then exiting?  Try to obtain a login log file. To do this, have them
edit sys$manager:decw$private_apps_setup.com (if it doesn't exist copy it
from sys$manager:decw$private_apps_setup.template) and add the following
global symbol definition, or remove the "!" comment character from the
definition which is already there:

	$ decw$loginlog == "sys$manager:decw$login.log"

When they restart DECwindows again, if the DECW$LOGINOUT process is
starting and then exiting it should create the decw$login.log file, which
might contain some useful error messages.

				-- Bob
5854.3problem solvedLNZALI::BACHNERMouse not found. Click OK to continueThu Jun 05 1997 06:5820
Bob,

> If you're in Europe you might not be aware of the fact that last weekend
> was a long weekend in the United States (Memorial Day).

sorry for being so insistent. Yes, I'm in Europe, but nevertheless I should have
thought about this - there are far less US holidays to remember than European
holidays. And most of us had long weekends before and after the Memorial Day
weekend...

Anyway, meanwhile I found the problem. The customer had restarted the
JOB_CONTROL process from an account other than SYSTEM. This account was shown in
the 'invalid access messages'. After restarting the job controller from the
SYSTEM account, the problem went away.

Thanks for the tip with decw$loginlog - I'm sure I can make use of it when
troubleshooting future calls...

Thanks again,
Hans.