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Title:DECWINDOWS
Notice:DECwindows Motif V1.2-4 SSB kits: note 5519
Moderator:GRIM::MESSENGER
Created:Wed Nov 28 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5861
Total number of notes:24081

5850.0. "Problems with Remote Display on SUN/Openwindows" by NNTPD::"[email protected]" (winkler::cola1) Fri May 16 1997 12:39

one of our customers gets problem when redirecting the display of a
Motif-based
application on a SUN/Soloris 3.4 workstation running the Openwindows manager.

1.) Some of the icons for the application are hard to recognize, colors
are not correctly displayed and icon titles are sometimes unreadable or too +
small.
We did some tests in order to change the windows manager configuration,
e.g. change to PseudoColor, Resolution etc., without success on various 
machines. The same problem also applies to other application, e.g. Lucid
Emacs

2.) A missing font (maybe window titles) causes for many Motif application
such as dxterm, dxbook an
error message such as

<<
X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string
"-*-Menu-Medium-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-P-*-ISO8859-1" to type FontStruct
>> 

This font specification does not occur in the DXterm-file. It can only be
found 
in the Mwm file in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults directory, but replacing this 
specification does not show any effects. Has anyone some ideas where this
might
come from?

Has anyone some good experience with remote Display on Openwindows?


Stephan Winkler
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5850.1GERUND::WOLFEI&#039;m going to huff, and puff, and blow your house downThu May 29 1997 17:2829
>one of our customers gets problem when redirecting the display of a Motif-based
>application on a SUN/Soloris 3.4 workstation running the Openwindows manager.
>1.) Some of the icons for the application are hard to recognize, colors are not
>correctly displayed and icon titles are sometimes unreadable or too + small. 
Are you running CDE? Which applications. Vanilla Motif Mwm does not support
color icon pixmaps (you needed icon windows) so very few apps have
color icons. There is a resource to allow Mwm to do it but it
not an icccm compliant thing to do. Dtwm from CDE does support color icon 
pixmaps and the new CDE apps to use color icons. However, since it's
an anti-icccm feature it's not suprising that the OpenLook WM doesn't

>We did some tests in order to change the windows manager configuration, e.g.
>change to PseudoColor, Resolution etc., without success on various  machines.
>The same problem also applies to other application, e.g. Lucid Emacs
So you are saying that a native Solaris apps is also having color
icon problems? Good, it's probably the same issue. 

>X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string
>"-*-Menu-Medium-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-P-*-ISO8859-1" to type FontStruct

This is an easy one. The default font for Digital's Motif is Bigelow& Holmes
Menu. It's hardwired in the code. This is not a standard MIT-X11 font so it is
not present on other vendor's systems. You can either set resources to prevent
the applications from using it OR set up a font alias on the Sun side to map
it some font that the Sun does have.  The later is significantly easier
than the former. 


			pete
5850.2Very old interoperability problemSTAR::VATNEPeter Vatne, Advanced Server for Digital Unix EngineeringFri May 30 1997 13:2018
>X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string
>"-*-Menu-Medium-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-P-*-ISO8859-1" to type FontStruct

Do you know if the Sun system has the following font?

  -Adobe-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal--12-120-75-75-P-70-ISO8859-1

The reason I ask is that even though the Bigelow & Holmes Menu font
is only available on Digital systems, the DECwindows libraries were
long ago modified to handle precisely this case.  The library will
attempt to fall back to using the Helvetica Bold font if it can't
find the Menu font.  Helvetica should be widely available, as it
was one of the fonts on the original MIT X distributions.

If the Sun system doesn't have the Helvetica font, and you can't easily
obtain the BDF file for it, you could always create a fonts.alias
file on the Sun server to map the Menu font to some other suitable
font.  See note 299.2 for a template.