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Conference bulova::decwindows

Title:DECWINDOWS
Notice:DECwindows Motif V1.2-4 SSB kits: note 5519
Moderator:GRIM::MESSENGER
Created:Wed Nov 28 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5861
Total number of notes:24081

5807.0. "CDE/open3d/AS 255/No login box" by VAXRIO::MAURO () Tue Mar 18 1997 11:14

Hi,

I have the configuration that follows:
    
$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$GETSYI("HW_NAME")
AlphaStation 255/300
$ SH DEV/FULL GYA0

Device GYA0:, device type DECwindows output device, is online, record-oriented
    device, carriage control, shareable.

    Error count                    0    Operations completed                 94
    Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                      [SYSTEM]
    Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot    S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:RWPL,W:RWPL
    Reference count                1    Default buffer size                  80

$ MCR SYSMAN
SYSMAN> IO SHOW BUS

%SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node VTPP05

_Bus__________Node_TR#__Name____________Base CSR__________
  PCI           48   2    PCI/SCSI       FFFFFFFF84B72000
      XBUS          0    4    Mouse          FFFFFFFF84BAC000
      XBUS          1    4    Keyboard       FFFFFFFF84BAC000
      XBUS          2    4    Serial Port    FFFFFFFF84BAC000
      XBUS          3    4    Serial Port    FFFFFFFF84BAC000
      XBUS          4    4    Parallel Port  FFFFFFFF84BAC000
      XBUS          5    4    Floppy         FFFFFFFF84BAC000
    ISA           2    3    Sound Adapter  FFFFFFFF84BAC000
  PCI           104  2    PCI/Graphics   FFFFFFFF84B7A000
  PCI           112  2    PCI/NI         FFFFFFFF84B7C000

PAL Code       5.56 
Console Vers   V6.3-5

I'm not able to get the CDE login box after a normal boot. I get a black 
screen. I only access this Station using the systartup_vms.com below:

$ ty systartup_vms.com
$ on error then continue
$ sysmanio = "$sysman io"
$ define /system/exec sys$sylogin sys$manager:sylogin
$ start/queue/manager
$ start/queue sys$batch
$ define decw$ignore_decnet true
$ define decw$ignore_decwindows true
$ @sys$manager:startnet
$ exit

After this boot I start the Motif and again get a Black screen in the console.
If you check all the informations I have below, you'll see that I have the
DECW$SERVER, DTLOGIN and DTGREET process created, I'm able to set a display
(DECnet) and run the ICO example (nothing happens in the console), I have a
empty DECW$LOGIN.LOG file and the DECW$SERVER_0_ERROR.LOG file without error.

I already checked sysgen parameter, licenses, softwares and other stuffs,
and I didn't see an obvious problem (I think so!). My main doubt is if 
is correctly installed and exactly what I need to get an Alphastation 255/300 
with Motif working properly.
 
It's a FIS equipment and since the customer got and installed it the problem
exist.

If you have any suggestion about tests or procedures to troubleshooting what 
is going on, will be very welcome.

I posted this notes in the OPEN3D and ALPHASTATION conference.

Thanks, Mauro.

$
$ PRODUCT SHOW PRODUCT *
PRODUCT
-------
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4
DEC AXPVMS SWXCR V2.0
DEC AXPVMS VMS V6.2-1H3

$ SH LICENSE

Active licenses on node VTPP05:

------- Product ID --------    ---- Rating ----- -- Version --
Product            Producer    Units Avail Activ Version Release    Termination
MMOV-RT            DEC           100  100   0      0.0  (none)      (none)      
NET-APP-SUP-150    DEC          1050  H     0      0.0  (none)      (none)      
OPEN3D             DEC          1050  H     0      0.0  (none)      (none)      
OPENVMS-ALPHA      DEC            12  0     A      0.0  (none)      (none)      
OPENVMS-ALPHA-ADL  DEC           100  0     100    0.0  (none)      (none)      

$ DIR SYS$HELP:OPEN*

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP]

OPEN3D035.RELEASE_NOTES;1               OPEN3D035_RELEASE_NOTES.PS;1


Adapter Configuration:
----------------------
TR  Adapter Name (Address)  Hose  Bus          Node  Device Name       HW-Id/SW
--  ----------------------  ----  -----------  ----  ----------------  --------
 1  KA0D02      (80DBCA00)     0  BUSLESS_SYS
 2  PCI         (80DBCC00)     0  PCI        
                                         PKA:     6  NCR53C810         00011000
                                                  7  SATURN            04848086
                                         GYA:    13  TGA2              000D1011
                                         EWA:    14  TULIP             00021011

* From SYSGEN

Parameter Name            Current    Default     Min.     Max.     Unit  Dynamic
--------------            -------    -------    -------  -------   ----  -------
VIRTUALPAGECNT             525000      65536      2048   4194304 Pagelets   
GBLSECTIONS                  1000        250        80      3276 Sections   
GBLPAGES                   163994      30720     10240        -1 Pagelets   
GBLPAGFIL                    1024        128        32        -1 Pages      
NPAGEDYN                  1851392    1048576    163840        -1 Bytes      
PAGEDYN                   1605632     212992     65536        -1 Bytes      
SWPOUTPGCNT                   512        512         0        -1 Pagelets   D
MAXBUF                      10000       8192      4096     64000 Bytes      D
CHANNELCNT                    256        256        31     65535 Channels   
PROCSECTCNT                    64         32         5      1024 Sections   
WSMAX                       65536       4096      1024   1048576 Pagelets   
WINDOW_SYSTEM                   1          0         0         2 Pure-numbe D
GH_RES_CODE                  1024        512         0      2048 Pages      
GH_RSRVPGCNT                  512          0         0      2048 Pages      
IMGREG_PAGES                 3000        600         0     10000 Pages      
PQL_MENQLM                    300          4        -1        -1 Locks      D
PQL_MWSDEFAULT               1376        512        -1        -1 Pagelets   
PQL_MWSQUOTA                 2752       1024        -1        -1 Pagelets   D
PQL_MWSEXTENT               65536       2048        -1        -1 Pagelets   D
PQL_MPGFLQUOTA              32768       2048        -1        -1 Pagelets   D
PQL_MASTLM                    100          4        -1        -1 Ast        D
PQL_MBIOLM                    100          4        -1        -1 I/O        D
PQL_MDIOLM                    100          4        -1        -1 I/O        D
PQL_MPRCLM                     10          0        -1        -1 Processes  D
PQL_MFILLM                    100          2        -1        -1 Files      D
PQL_MBYTLM                 100000       1024        -1        -1 Bytes      D

$ @SYS$STARTUP:DECW$STARTUP RESTART
Shared linkage sections are in use on this system and images will not
be reinstalled.  If you are restarting DECwindows to reinstall images
then you must reboot the system.

Restarting the DECwindows Software stops everything displaying on your
workstation.  Do you really want to restart the DECwindows Software? YES
Restarting DECwindows Software, server 0.  Please wait.
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000114

$ SH DISPLA
%DECW-W-OPENIN, error opening DECW$DISPLAY as input
-SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available

$ SH LOG DECW$SERVER_TRANSPORTS/TABLE=DECW$SERVER0_TABLE
   "DECW$SERVER_TRANSPORTS" = "DECNET" (DECW$SERVER0_TABLE)
        = "LOCAL"

$ SET DISPLAY/CREAT/NODE=VTPP05/TRANSP=DECNET
$ SH DISPLAY

    Device:    WSA3:  [super]
    Node:      VTPP05
    Transport: DECNET
    Server:    0
    Screen:    0

$ RUN DECW$EXAMPLES:ICO
VTPP05::SYSTEM 09:27:19 ICO       CPU=00:00:05.11 PF=1236 IO=15046 MEM=186
VTPP05::SYSTEM 09:27:24 ICO       CPU=00:00:07.28 PF=1236 IO=22712 MEM=186
VTPP05::SYSTEM 09:27:28 ICO       CPU=00:00:08.97 PF=1236 IO=28773 MEM=186
VTPP05::SYSTEM 09:27:32 ICO       CPU=00:00:10.78 PF=1236 IO=34851 MEM=186
VTPP05::SYSTEM 09:27:40 ICO       CPU=00:00:14.09 PF=1236 IO=46329 MEM=186

* From SHOW SYSTEM

0000010F REMACP          HIB      9       18   0 00:00:00.02        34     21   
00000115 DECW$SERVER_0   HIB      8    72440   0 00:00:21.29       664   1037   
00000116 DTLOGIN         LEF      5      131   0 00:00:00.23       229    288   
00000117 DTGREET         LEF      6      236   0 00:00:01.67       445    528  S

$ TY DECW$LOGIN.LOG
$ 

$ TY DECW$SERVER_0_ERROR.LOG;2 
18-MAR-1997 09:49:51.7 Hello, this is the X server
This is the DECwindows X11 display server for OpenVMS AXP T6.2-950505
                compiled on May  5 1995 at 04:29:36
Main address = 00032388
Activating extension image DECW$SVEXT_Adobe_DPS_Extension,
extension name: Adobe-DPS-Extension, entry address 002D82A8
Activating extension image DECW$SVEXT_Xie,
extension name: Xie, entry address 0045A690
Activating extension image DECW$SVEXT_DEC_XTRAP,
extension name: DEC-XTRAP, entry address 0052C560
Activating extension image DECW$SVEXT_Multi_Buffering,
extension name: Multi-Buffering, entry address 0056E0E0
Activating extension image DECW$SVEXT_X3D_PEX,
extension name: X3D-PEX, entry address 00622290
Activating extension image DECW$SVEXT_glx,
extension name: glx, entry address 006E4190
Activating extension image DECW$SVEXT_decstereo,
extension name: decstereo, entry address 00776058
DECW$TRANSPORT_COMMON image base address: 7EDC4000
DECW$TRANSPORT_DECNET image base address: 007BA000
%DECW-I-ATTACHED, transport DECNET attached to its network
DECW$TRANSPORT_LOCAL image base address: 008A8000
DECWINDOWS DigitalEquipmentCorp. AXP, Release 6.2
Shareable Image DDX GY, InitOutput loaded at 008ED8D0

ffbvmsScreenInit: Init FFB screen number 0
Screen 0  sfb+/TGA  revision # 2079260706    8 bits/pixel   2039232 bytes VRAM
DEC-XTRAP:  AddExtension assigned Major Opcode '137'
DEC-XTRAP:  Vers. 3.3-0 successfully loaded
N_InitLGI : MHEAD_LGI flag is enabled
N_InitLGI : Init SFBPLUS
shared library DECW$SERVER_DDX_GY sucessfully loaded.
SFBPLUS : N_InitMicrocode
OptionTable Contents (file: SYS$MANAGER:DECW$XSERVER_O3D.CONF)
Export24BitDoubleBufferVisualOnZLXE = "False"

GL Extension initialized
Build Date and Source Tree:
DEC:PKO:O3D:3.4.0:V32_SSB:3.4.0:09:18:96:OSF1:V3.2.148:CC::OPT::
Wed Sep 18 16:35:20 EDT 1996
/src/a1/sep18G_V32_SSB_pvgopt_clients/src

18-MAR-1997 09:49:56.1 Calling the dispatcher...
$ 

    
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5807.1GRIM::MESSENGERBob MessengerTue Mar 18 1997 16:479
DECwindows doesn't start after a normal boot because you're defining
decw$ignore_decwindows in systartup_vms.com.  What happens if you remove
that logical name definition and reboot the system?

The other thing I'd be interested in knowing is if you get any error
messages displayed if you start DECwindows using "@SYS$MANAGER:DECW$STARTUP"
instead of "@SYS$MANAGER:DECW$STARTUP RESTART".

				-- Bob
5807.2DECW$STARTUP without RESTART...VAXRIO::MAUROWed Mar 19 1997 07:1626
    Perhaps I didn't explain very weel what is going on. The systartup_vms
    you saw in .0, was created for us to make the system bootable. The idea
    is don't start the decwindows in the boot, since when we try it with
    original systartup_vms that comes with VMS the boot stops with a black
    screen. 
    
    After the boot with the decw$ignore_decwindows defined the idea was to
    start decwindows manualy. I tried the DECW$STARTUP without RESTART and:
    
    $ @sys$startup:decw$startup
    Number of screens:         1
    Screen devices and order:  GYA0
    %RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 0000011F
    
    0000011F DECW$SERVER_0   HIB      8      684   0 00:00:01.60       669  
    1016   
    00000120 DTLOGIN         LEF      4      117   0 00:00:00.24       237   
    280   
    00000121 DTGREET         LEF      5      198   0 00:00:01.68       471   
    510  S
    
    The situation in the console is still the same, black screen. I create
    a WSAX and run ICO and it seems ok, since with ^T I can check IO being
    increased.
    
    Regards, Mauro.
5807.3GRIM::MESSENGERBob MessengerWed Mar 19 1997 16:1412
There is a known problem on Alpha systems where shareable images don't get
installed correctly if you start DECwindows after the system has booted
instead of in systartup_vms.com, due to GH_RSRVPGCNT being too low (it
gets artifically boosted during system startup).  This doesn't seem to be
happening in your case.

Your problem is pretty strange since everything seems to be running
correctly and yet you don't see anything on the screen.  Could it be a
hardware problem, e.g. a bad graphics card?  I assume that text is
displayed normally on the workstation screen during system startup.

				-- Bob
5807.4Hw? I also suspected about that...VAXRIO::MAUROThu Mar 20 1997 06:5513
    Bob,
    
    during the boot the messages are displayed all right. If after I got
    the black screen I type ^F2 the console mode comes in a blue screen,
    white letters and seems work pretty fine. I already checked the graphic
    device (PBXGB-AA) and video (PCXBV-YY) part numbers in the option list
    from November 1996 and both seems to be supported.
    
    Right now, because of the customer pressure, I opened a call in
    Colorado. I don't where you are or even if you are from DEC or EDS, but
    if I get some news I'll update this note.
    
    Thanks, Mauro Aquino.
5807.5GRIM::MESSENGERBob MessengerThu Mar 20 1997 15:0012
Mauro,

> I don't where you are or even if you are from DEC or EDS,

I'm at ZKO in Nashua, N.H.  Until this month I worked in the Workstation
Software Group (a.k.a. the DECwindows group).  I turned down a job offer
from EDS, and now I'm upstairs in the VMS group supporting graphics
drivers and DDXs (device-dependent X servers).

I hope the folks in Colorado can figure this one out.

				-- Bob
5807.6See 5760.*XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringThu Mar 20 1997 15:1310
   I recently worked on an AlphaStation 255/300 FIS OpenVMS Alpha V6.2-1H3
   and DECwindows Motif V1.2-4 (CDE), and found the version of the TGA2
   (PowerStorm 3D30; PBXGB-AA) driver was somewhat out of date, and that
   the DECwindows Motif patch kit had not been applied.  See 5760.* for
   some of the CDE adventures I've had, including some references to the
   TGA2 need for the Open3D kit, etc.  (The AlphaStation box in question
   was subsequently upgraded to V7.1, and is presently running fine...
   Under MWM, though.)